[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap
The nautilus view is deprecated, closing that bug, also the new component doesn't have that issue ** Changed in: nautilus (Ubuntu) Status: Triaged => Invalid -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 Title: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/desktop/+bug/40872/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap
** Changed in: nautilus Status: Confirmed => Expired -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 Title: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/desktop/+bug/40872/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap
** Changed in: desktop Status: New => Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 Title: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/desktop/+bug/40872/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap
This is my last report: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/nautilus/issues/108 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 Title: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/desktop/+bug/40872/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap
Yes, @giannione that is the link. I will report a bug, too. At least to annoy Gnome people, I have so little expectations of them to actually be helpful. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 Title: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/desktop/+bug/40872/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap
The most annoying consequence of this bug happens when you mount a new drive whose icon overlaps with the existing ones, forcing you to rearrange your desktop. How can we report on gnome bugzilla? Is this the url? https://bugzilla.gnome.org/ -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 Title: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/desktop/+bug/40872/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap
When I last reported this on Gnome Bugzilla, they almost laughed at me. That was years ago. Maybe we should flood them with this bug, so they would know there are lots affected. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 Title: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/desktop/+bug/40872/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap
Launchpad couldn't connect to GNOME Bug Tracker. (what does this mean?) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 Title: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/desktop/+bug/40872/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap
[Desktop icons are not aligned in the horizontal grid] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/1323075 [Desktop icons should have vertical align grid and exact size] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=530430 [Gnome lost icons position on the desktop] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gvfs/+bug/401446 ** Bug watch added: GNOME Bug Tracker #530430 https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=530430 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 Title: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/desktop/+bug/40872/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap
This problem is still present in ubuntu 17.10, eleven years after the bug was created. How can this be solved? Is there a similar bug in the gnome bug tracking tool? ** Also affects: desktop Importance: Undecided Status: New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 Title: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/desktop/+bug/40872/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap
** Changed in: nautilus Status: Unknown = Confirmed ** Changed in: nautilus Importance: Unknown = Medium -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 Title: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/40872/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap
upstream duped several bugs to the popular gnome-bugs #313563 (most active thread over the years), then duped that to even-more-ancient gnome-bugs #154722 now. ** Bug watch added: GNOME Bug Tracker #154722 https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154722 ** Changed in: nautilus Importance: Low = Unknown ** Changed in: nautilus Status: Invalid = Unknown ** Changed in: nautilus Remote watch: GNOME Bug Tracker #313563 = GNOME Bug Tracker #154722 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 Title: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/40872/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap
I see this in quantal live session: the Install Ubuntu and Examples icons overlap by default, making the text illegible. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 Title: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/40872/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap
This bug has been reported on the Ubuntu ISO testing tracker. A list of all reports related to this bug can be found here: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/reports/bugs/40872 ** Tags added: iso-testing -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 Title: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/40872/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap
** Changed in: nautilus Status: Confirmed = Invalid -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 Title: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/40872/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap
Still seeing this bug in the latest Ubuntu 12.10 Beta 2 (64-bit). -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 Title: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/40872/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap
Still on 12.04 Donno -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 Title: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/40872/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap
Its frustrating to see bugs like these. On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 3:14 AM, florin 40...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote: @TheMarquis Please also post a bug report on Gnome bugzilla, maybe if we are more and more, they might realize this is not a minor bug. https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=562594 -- You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to a duplicate bug report (901204). https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 Title: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/40872/+subscriptions -- Nothing is constant Regards A.K.Karthikeyan -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 Title: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/40872/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap
We've had this shit for 8 years now, this reeks of corruption. I wouldn't be surprised if somebody is paying off high placed developpers to divert manpower to other things and maintain small but important flaws. This bug is one of the biggest newbie turn-offs I know about. Microsoft would lose milions every year if ubuntu went mainstream. It's natural to assume they'd legally but discretely pay off some people as part of risk managment(typical in economy) and important unsolved bugs like this one are proof of this. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 Title: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/40872/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap
@TheMarquis Please also post a bug report on Gnome bugzilla, maybe if we are more and more, they might realize this is not a minor bug. https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=562594 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 Title: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/40872/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap
Still experiencing this bug of desktop icons stacking/overlapping on the latest daily build of Ubuntu Precise 12.04. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 Title: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/40872/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap
While I realize this is an upstream issue, I can't believe there's not an Ubuntu patch even if upstream devs are unwilling to fix this. Still seeing this same old bug behavior on Oneiric 11.10 with gnome 3. The fact that this carried over from gnome 2.x.x shows a serious lack of attention to usablilty/polish. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 Title: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/40872/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap
@Jim I propose to flood Gnome teams with this bug, as they don't read the Ubuntu input. The bug I've filed seems to be a duplicate of this one: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=562594 What is completely surprizing is that only a few people wrote there, like people don't care about how easy they work with the computer. Please people, create accounts on Gnome bugzilla and write all the above comments there too! The Gnome team must know we care about usability and our computer-lives! ** Bug watch added: GNOME Bug Tracker #562594 https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=562594 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 Title: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/40872/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap
Folks, here is my dos centavos, dva kopekie, two cents, or whatever. . . . Note: Distro used is Ubuntu 10.04 LTS. 1. Allowing physical icons to overlap is just plain messy and un- professional. Most of the places I have worked for had a bug-rating from 1-4, 1 being hotter-than-hell and 4 being yea, alright already! However, they also had another bug level - 5 - which was reserved for bugs that - though maybe not hyper-critical - needed to be addressed ASAP because they made the company, or product, look silly, stupid, or maintained by the gorillas at the City Zoo. Things like misspelling the company's name, placing the Corporate Logo as a mirror-image, or on it's side. Or a ridiculously obvious GUI/usability issue that looks like the developer hadn't had his morning coffee yet. 2. My suggestions: (a) Create a default size, especially width, (X by Y), that icons must stay within. If an icon represents something that can have a preview, it should be scaled to fit the default icon space. If it's considered worth it, an icon with a preview can explode the preview to a larger, more easily seen size, upon mouse-over. Of course, the preview would be like a tool-tip/text box that can cover a portion of the desktop while the mouse is within it. (b) Allow a non-selected icon to show, at most, two lines of it's title with an ellipsis if it was truncated. (c) Force the icon label to fit in a space only slightly larger than the icon size itself (i.e. if the icon matrix is X by Y, than the icon label would have to fit within a X+2 width space, wrapping as necessary, and truncated to two lines if not selected. (d) Make the icon spacing a ***user-configurable setting*** (=== Hint! Hint!) as it is in Windows. (e) Create, adopt, and maintain some kind of User Interface and Usability standard that - once adopted - would become mandatory by consensus - in pretty much the same way that various distributions have rules for how bugs are created and reported, code modules interact, etc. etc. etc. These rules are necessary so that everyone is on the same page of the play-book. Can you imagine what it would be like if every software company out there could just arbitrarily decide how a CD/DVD should be formatted - or if an application developer just decided to write whatever the heck he wanted, willy-nilly all over the hard-drive platters - without regard to what someone else may have done before? This wouldn't be bazaar, it would be - literally - bizarre! Along with totally un-workable. Even in a bazaar, booths are laid out in an orderly way, each booth getting only so much space, so that all the vendors are easily accessible to the customers, without stepping on each-other's toes. (f) Find out whomever coded the desktop so that different icons could totally overlap and hide each other - hang 'em by their feet, and beat them senseless with a short bat. Hmmm. . . . You know? THAT might just be the User usability feedback method we've been looking for! Finally, developers would take us seriously. . . . (just kidding, but sometimes I am SO tempted.) Re: Copying Windows (slightly off topic) It appears that there is a small, but vocal, group that believes that Ubuntu/Debian/Fedora/SuSE/etc. should be as un-like Windows as possible - and they seem to want to be as much like the Mac as they can without being sued. And that's their right. However. I'd also like to see a desktop design started that would try to create the same look-and-feel as Windows - short of being sued - because (IMHO) that would greatly help the cross-over user become more relaxed with Linux. And I'd gladly join whatever maintainer group was created to develop this. What say ye? Jim (JR) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 Title: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/40872/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap
This is a very old bug and it still is in Ubuntu 11.4, updated to last packages. Does anyone know if there will be some solution? I think copying Windows way is a good interaction design. ** Attachment added: icons, overlap, natty, desktop, nautilus https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/40872/+attachment/2227197/+files/icons-overlapping.png -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 Title: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/40872/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap
** Changed in: nautilus (Ubuntu) Assignee: Ubuntu Desktop Bugs (desktop-bugs) = (unassigned) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 Title: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap
I almost erased my 750gb external hard drive because of this bug. There were some pictures on my desktop that I wanted to delete, so I drew a box around them and dragged them to the trash can. Turns out the mounted partition's icon was hiding under them. Had I been a lesser computer guy, I most likely would not have realized what was going on when the trash can said that what I wanted to erase was too big for the trash can, and could only be deleted. I would have clicked ok then wondered why it was taking so long. I also probably would not have had my data backed up. -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap
** Changed in: nautilus Importance: Unknown = Low -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap
See this post: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=6512055postcount=6 I think ive found a solution in gconf-editor: apps nautilus icon-view, then check default_use_tighter_layout. this solves the horizontal overlap. the vertical overlap problem still remains since the align grid gets smaller, but using Clean up name helps. I think this should be the default setup. -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap
*I really don´t know why so many complication about something so simple. I´ve tested the same issues in other operating systems and nothing happened in this sense. I did not take a look at the sources codes, but I suppose that when the desktop or window is divided by grid cells, only one object or icon could be in a cell. In what situation is interesting to support more than one object in a grid cell since there are sufficient cells? Every time some operation try to put an object in a occupied the cell, the system try to find the nearest empty one. What are the complications about it? * 2010/8/12 Bill Smith snowman...@gmail.com I did some more work on this recently, particularly relating to icon bounding boxes. I tried to find any bugs by adding code that generated frames through Cairo, and it seems the bounding boxes are actually correct, as shown in my screenshot. It seems the actual issues arise in collision detection (at least in my patches). Instead of marking parts of a grid, which only partially works, I tried checking for collisions between bounding boxes directly. This seems to work well, but I still notice a couple of instances of overlap that I can hopefully fix. ** Attachment added: IconBoundingBoxes.png https://bugs.launchpad.net/nautilus/+bug/40872/+attachment/1487143/+files/IconBoundingBoxes.png -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of a duplicate bug (400197). Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts: Invalid Status in Nautilus: Confirmed Status in nautilus-elementary: Confirmed Status in “nautilus” package in Ubuntu: Triaged Bug description: I have some icons with long file names. Sometimes I unintentionally end up with completely illegible icon labels and overlapping icons. I have created a snapshot of my intentionally horrific example. This problem is easy to reproduce when working with file previews (irregularly shaped images) and icons with long file names. Just create some and drag them close together, paying attention to not trigger the a file move event. I have noticed what I consider to be a related problem. When I remove a file from my desktop or a new icon is added as a result of some program adding an entry, the desktop isn't refreshed with autoarranged icons. I have looked and looked and can find no way to make this my desktop's behavior. I think this is terrible UI from a usability standpoint. I will attach the image showing the problem. To unsubscribe from this bug, go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/40872/+subscribe -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap
I did some more work on this recently, particularly relating to icon bounding boxes. I tried to find any bugs by adding code that generated frames through Cairo, and it seems the bounding boxes are actually correct, as shown in my screenshot. It seems the actual issues arise in collision detection (at least in my patches). Instead of marking parts of a grid, which only partially works, I tried checking for collisions between bounding boxes directly. This seems to work well, but I still notice a couple of instances of overlap that I can hopefully fix. ** Attachment added: IconBoundingBoxes.png https://bugs.launchpad.net/nautilus/+bug/40872/+attachment/1487143/+files/IconBoundingBoxes.png -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap
Too bad this bug is still around, after 4 (four) years... Ubuntu 10.04, both bugs still here. I think the 2 separate bugs (new auto-generated icons overlapping and the missing auto-align to grid) are related each other. And I don't think any too-complicated-problem answer could be accepted. Sorry. My idea is that a 48px cell based grid can expand into greater cells, without breaking the grid itself. up to 48px, then up to 144px, then up to 288px. The space for a 2 lines filename help to keep consistent the grid. Of course longer filenames should break as in the icon view in file manager. I attach a mockup i did in about 1 hour of thinking. I'm not usability expert nor developer, just a user. Please, take a look at this, not just flush down the toilet as often seems to be. I'm GNOME user, I like it and your work, but it's a shame that something Microsoft achieved 10 years ago, we can't still have. If it's too hard to code the behavior of my mockup, let disable resizing of icons and have single size constraining grid (associated with self-align option), with a grid size in pixels that we can set at least via gconf. Then, every new icon should be generated after the last icon present, always. I'm sure this can't satisfy everyone, but surely it is better then the unusable thing it is now. Keep up the good work. ** Attachment added: desktop-mockup.png http://launchpadlibrarian.net/53480009/desktop-mockup.png -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap
Oh, oh!!! Just another thing. With my grid thing, if you try to dnd big icon where there are not enough free cells, dnd could silently abort. If a user want to complicate his life with unreasonable big icons, it's his own responsability, I think. Bye. -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap
well this is truly annoying as it's on Linux desktop, not server. other system user will be annoyed to see the miss on their desktop -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap
I subscribed the guy from the nautilus-elementary ppa just now - maybe he/they are willing to incorporate this patch for easier testing. the right way is to open a nautilus-elementary bug task, I've done that now But ... any idea, why the patch is not incorporated into upstream? not sure, somebody should email it to the upstream mailing list for review with an explanation of the change, the issue with changing the grid is that most of the changes suggested over years fix a scenario to break another usecase ** Also affects: nautilus-elementary Importance: Undecided Status: New -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap
Could you please specify the expected behaviour of the patch? I have applied it to the latest nautilus-elementary codebase, and icons are still allowed to overlap. I have tried moving icons over each other with keep aligned checked and unchecked, and they overlapped, as before. When checking keep aligned, the icons were moved to non-overlapping positions. Is this the right behaviour? ** Changed in: nautilus-elementary Status: New = Confirmed -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap
I found the patch was already discussed in Bug #20284 comment 10. This issue may be a duplicate of the referenced bug #12454, which was fixed and re-appeared?! Funnily the regression pops up every some months, as the upstream bug is from 2001! -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap
Hi all, I just stumbled on this bug report after switching to Lucid from Fedora where I had my own patch for this issue ( http://clarens.caltech.edu/wiki/2009/06/01/19.27 ). Does some kind soul have a Lucid PPA with Bill's latest patch that I can test? Thanks! -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap
Hi, I subscribed the guy from the nautilus-elementary ppa just now - maybe he/they are willing to incorporate this patch for easier testing. But ... any idea, why the patch is not incorporated into upstream? -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap
Since this patch has been forwarded upstream and we're awaiting upstream comments, adding patch-forwarded-upstream tag. ** Tags added: patch-forwarded-upstream ** Tags removed: patch -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap
For Maverick, I would prefer to see a much more comprehensive set of fixes and feature changes to the icon layout system. I still want to be able to have a regular grid (not simply sets of vertical columns that are centered within the column, but not horizontally aligned). I hate the variability of the icon sizes. I want to be able to disable resized icons. I want elided icon labels. I want any event that generates a new icon to trigger a refresh of the icon layout on the desktop, and any event that causes an icon to be removed should also trigger a refresh so that I am not left with a hole in the middle of my desktop icons. Lastly, I want controls for the icon display to be accessible from a Desktop context menu, not buried in System - Preferences - Appearance, or in hidden in some setting that I have to hack with gconf-editor. -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap
hi my 2 cents: how about the following: text is limited as outlined by Miles Lane and Sandehera earlier (in 2008) however for icons regardless of size or shape two rules apply. Stuff created new on the desktop ie automatically created icons for removabe hardware, downloaded files etc donot overlap initially but are place well clear of other icons in a grid type allignment. for icons moved my nouse the are droped exactly there where the mouse is when the icon is released.Or alternativly icons that are made to overlap form a stack that is displayed similar to a drawer applet in the panels or stacks in OS X -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap
** Tags added: patch -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap
you know, theres probably a command that is run everytime you click on the clean up by name option in the menu. why not put that in a scheduler program to run every 2 seconds? hal and devkit daemon already run every 2 seconds so its not an extreme concept. for example open htop in a terminal and fill your desktop with a jumble of icons and folders and links scattered randomly and hit clean up by name and look at the amount of the cpu spike. for me its at least 10%. this isnt the solution for most people, but may well work. would this easy to do? yeah, if you find a command to use. ill look into it a bit in the next few days probably... is the result worth the cpu usage? nah,i dont think so but it may be a quick fix and you wont notice the impact too much on a newer comp. -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap
Actually, the realignment approach was what I did with the modified first iteration of my patch. As you suggest, the code involved for this is incredibly simple. Also, after investigating the behavior of Windows XP, a similar method is used there. I do, however, disagree with the realign every 2 seconds concept. IMHO, the best way to implement this realignment approach is to put schedule_align_icons() (the function you're talking about) into nautilus_icon_container_add() and nautilus_icon_container_move_icon(). This way, whenever an icon is moved or added, the grid will be updated, and we wouldn't be aligning without reason. Just to let you know, I discussed this on the Nautilus mailing list and on Bugzilla, and my patch was not accepted because the move icons around behavior was not desired. If case you are interested in code for this approach, I attached the patch I made earlier. Note this has an issue with renaming a new icon, but that could be fixed. Also, I should add that Nautilus bugs would best be discussed upstream (i.e. Nautilus Bugzilla). A number of reports appear there, including where I posted my patches ( https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=601469 ). ** Patch added: Proposed-changes-for-Keep-Aligned.patch http://launchpadlibrarian.net/42925763/Proposed-changes-for-Keep-Aligned.patch -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap
** Summary changed: - Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly + Desktop icons are allowed to overlap -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
Nautilus seems to remember where it last placed the icon for some volumes. When a file (or another volume) already sits at that spot, there's an overlap. This, however, does not seem to happen for all volumes. ** Attachment added: Screenshot.png http://launchpadlibrarian.net/41494494/Screenshot.png -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
I've built nautilus with Bill's patch in my ppa, totally unsafe to test, but feel free to. -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
This bug annoyed me too, so I created a patch and discussed it on the Nautilus mailing list. I have posted the patch at the Nautilus Bugzilla: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=601469 ** Bug watch added: GNOME Bug Tracker #601469 https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=601469 -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
Wait a moment, this never is going to be solved? -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
I think that this bug isn't such a big issue, but that bug #364001, should be addressed, as in comment #66. -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
This desktop bug has been around for too long; I would not consider it low priority. Here's a pic of Windows XP's desktop options; you can have overlapped icons or icons aligned to a grid. ** Attachment added: overalign.png http://launchpadlibrarian.net/35708635/overalign.png -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
Just to elaborate on the pic above, when Align to Grid is checked, you can't overlap icons by dragging one over another. This makes it different from Keep Aligned in Nautilus. -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
Definitely a usability bug, even if it is small. If it takes a user an extra 5 seconds or minute to find something on their desktop then I think it's definitely something that needs to be addressed. It's a shame that after three years and seven duplicate bugs it still hasn't been addressed. -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
If I get accepted for Google Summer of Code and Ubuntu oversees, I'd like to get a mentor to tackle this job. Go go year-one CS students! -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
In https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/364001 I've reported that desktop icons are placed by _default_ on top of one another. I claim that this is one bug, and the fact that users are allowed to overlap their icons is a separate one. That bug has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. I disagree. I think that if merely that bug I filed is fixed, hence new icons would be created (if possible) in a clear space, most of the overlap problem would be solved. -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
Miles and Wladston, complaining about economics in a bug report is counterproductive and impolite. if you want a programmer or OS vendor to fix a particular bug, please contact them directly. If you have suggestions on how to improve the Ubuntu bug-tracking process in general, try the ubuntu-qa mailing list. -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
Once again, I'm amazed how problems can be discussed for over 3 years with several ideas and propositions without leading to an improvement or even a solution. ... because there is always the 1 single user (type) or edge case which could possibly lead to loss of some freedom and individuality. -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
I gave up filing bugs against Gnome years ago for this very reason. I have much older bugs than this that have been mothballed. Because there are so fewdevelopers who are writing the gnome code, they are always overworked and thier priorities are determined by personal interests or thier corporations interests. What incentive is there for testers when 90% of thier bugs languish for years? Oh well. I don't blame anyone. I am sure everyone is doingthe best they can. I do deeply wish thatusers' priorities had greater influence, but so it goes. -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
Miles, same here. Filling bugs really doesn't count at all. They should discourage new users to do so, it only adds frustration ... -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
This bug has affected me ever since I started using ubuntu beginning with 7.04. When drives get mounted, or a cd is inserted, the icon more often than not, gets placed on top of an existing icon. Not a deal breaker, but annoying. -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
I would say make a variable grid if people would like to keep variable sized icons, meaning make a grid that is 32x32, 48x48, 64x64, 128x128 and then the default sorta-grid that Nautilus has right now... That's how KDE, XFCE, Windows 3.1 to 7, OS X all have it as Pelládi Gábor said. I know this idea is too complex for One Hundred Paper Cuts, but it's an important usability bug I think. -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
Of course, I completely agree that this is an important usability bug, or I would not have filed it years ago. I would love to see it fixed sometime. Let me know if you need more ideas about possible fix implementations. -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
i couldn't believe this bug is almost 3 years old, they have low resources, i agree, they have some major things to fix i agree, but dude come on, this bug was posted and acknowledged more than three years back, very frustrating. -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
those comments are not very useful, it's not really an easy code nor clear what the behaviour should be on the grib when you try to overlap icons, should text be able to slightly overlap and if not why not? should the cursor jump when you try to dnd an icon on an another one or should it move it? having a clear design would be a first step to get that changed -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
Could the design come with recommendation about what should happen when you dnd an icon near of an another one for example? -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
Excuse me if the previous comment was meant to be directed towards someone specifically, but since it sounds general I'll attempt to answer it. When an icon is dragged and dropped, the first thing that needs to be checked is whether or not the cursor was directly over another icon. If it was, the icon on which the file was released should be launched using the dragged file, exactly like it already does in GNOME. Secondly, which square on the grid the icon was released must be calculated. This means that there shouldn't be 1 pixel boundaries forming a grid, but rather every pixel must be part of one block in the grid. Thirdly, if no icon already occupies the square onto which the dragged icon was dropped, the dragged icon will simply be moved from its original square to the new one. However, if an icon already exists at that location, the dragged icon will be placed at that location and the icon that was already there will be bumped down one square in its column. Once the bumping of icons reaches the bottom of a column, it should move over to the top of the next column. Note: It would be nice to provide options for switching between the old and new desktop schemes (because otherwise someone will no doubt complain) and options for things like stacking icons in rows instead of columns and making the far right column the initial column (for people who are used to languages like Hebrew or Arabic). -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
having a grid with lines and columns is easy when you have a standard geometry for icons but if those can be scaled randomly how would that work exactly? -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
We could also try to abandon any idea of a grid and consider each icon as a separate square. If another square is placed on top of it, that square will instead be placed at the bottom corner of the square it was placed on top of. If there isn't any room at the bottom (mind Feynman), place the icon on the right corner of the square. I have no idea if this is realistic/implementable, but it was just a thought. Sebastien Bacher schreef: having a grid with lines and columns is easy when you have a standard geometry for icons but if those can be scaled randomly how would that work exactly? -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
Maybe disabling differently-scaled icons is the first step to improving the Desktop's usability. If icons are scalable, but all scale to the same degree, we can always draw a uniform grid to align them to. -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
There is already a preference in GNOME that that toggles between icons can be placed everywhere, and icons are snapped to a grid. The size of the grid is hardcoded in the source to a small value as a #define, and the grid width is greater than the height. What the supporters of this bug propose is the same solution as every other big desktop environment has on various operating systems, including Linux. Change the behavior of the align to a grid mode of the desktop, to be like viewing the Desktop folder in Nautilus. The grid size should be large enough to hold an icon, it should be a square, not a rectangle, and at most one icon should be allowed in one cell. The size of the icons must be maximized to the grid size. The icons can be placed anywhere mode of GNOME should stay untouched. Come on, you have to know the proposed solution, look at KDE, XFCE, Windows 3.1 to 7, OS X, all have this option. -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
Come on, you have to know the proposed solution, look at KDE, XFCE, Windows 3.1 to 7, OS X, all have this option. the microsoft os have a fixed icon geometry consitent over the desktop though no? I'm not against the option I just say we need a clear definition of the behaviour we want, ie how much should an icon be shifted when you try to move it over an another one when you can't draw a static grid there -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
This issue is far too complex to be a papercut ** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Status: Confirmed = Invalid -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
when you can't draw a static grid there Why not? Why can't we have a static grid in keep aligned mode? I say that we should have a static grid in keep aligned mode. -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
Why not? Why can't we have a static grid in keep aligned mode? I say that we should have a static grid in keep aligned mode. because you can have variable icon geometry -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
for me this is as simple as 1. place the draged icon where it was dropped 2. if there is already one or more icons that ocupy the space that will be required by the dragged icon, make space on the surrounding of the final dragged file (moving all the icons on the area if required) to acomodate the overlaping icons on the surrounding of the dragged icon. done! -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
because you can have variable icon geometry Then disable variable icon geometry in keep aligned mode, for the better good. -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
Technically, in nautilus-icon-container.c, I would like to change #define SNAP_SIZE_X 78 #define SNAP_SIZE_Y 20 to #define SNAP_SIZE_X 128 #define SNAP_SIZE_Y 128 and don't allow icons to be greater than the cell size 128 px. -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
Pelladi, that wouldn't correct the problem of having icons at the exact same location. However, what you suggested along with not allowing icons to be placed in the exact same spot should solve the problem. -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
I would like this fixed grid layout to include setting all icons to a fixed width and height (there could be a small, medium and large setting, or there could be a slider that allows a flexible selection of what this consistent icon size would be). Using the fixed grid layout would not require losing custom icon sizes, if someone wanted to go back to the non-grid layout. As far as I am concerned, no icon text should ever overlap in the grid layoiut mode. -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Importance: Undecided = Low ** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Status: New = Confirmed -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
** Also affects: hundredpapercuts Importance: Undecided Status: New -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
but if ms windows does it, what is the problem in here? -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
If that's true Sebastian, about nautilus having a grid, then what I think would be a suitable workaround for this bug is an option that not just aligns to a grid when clicked, but forces icons to persistently be aligned to a grid, thus forcing new volumes to not overlap or new folders to be hidden under existing icons. See Xubuntu, Kubuntu and Windows 95 to 7 for this. -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
yes but only when Keep Aligned is checked -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
This issue was the first bug I noticed with Ubuntu when I started using it over a year ago. Desktop icon placement and grid manipulation is not a low priority issue. Newer users (and many veterans) get a lot of value out of having desktop icons to represent work-in- progress...otherwise, why even support desktop icons. What do we have to do to increase the importance from Low to High? This is one of these issues that really makes me question the entire FOSS process...is anybody even listening? -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
the bug settings are correct, the issue is only a cosmetic one and nautilus has a grid, you can select the option to align on the grid in the menu and see how it's working. the bug is read but the ubuntu desktop team ressources are limited and ubuntu is not writting this software so you should better comment on bugzilla.gnome.org where the people writting the code will read your comments and suggestion. the topic has already been discussed and there is some non trivial cases due to the thumbnails for example -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
It is clear that the concept of a desktop grid is an idea that many users want and are familiar with. Every major desktop environment defaults to that. And it shouldn't be hard to implement, as nautilus file manager already organizes items in a grid. There is no use case when a user wants to have his icons overlap. -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
small, but really obvious bugs like these ruin the reputation of the rest of ubuntu. the first things people will notice when using ubuntu should work perfectly, and it should be the top priority to have them work perfectly. On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 11:30 AM, Pelládi Gábor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is clear that the concept of a desktop grid is an idea that many users want and are familiar with. Every major desktop environment defaults to that. And it shouldn't be hard to implement, as nautilus file manager already organizes items in a grid. There is no use case when a user wants to have his icons overlap. -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of the bug. Status in Nautilus: Confirmed Status in nautilus source package in Ubuntu: Triaged Bug description: I have some icons with long file names. Sometimes I unintentionally end up with completely illegible icon labels and overlapping icons. I have created a snapshot of my intentionally horrific example. This problem is easy to reproduce when working with file previews (irregularly shaped images) and icons with long file names. Just create some and drag them close together, paying attention to not trigger the a file move event. I have noticed what I consider to be a related problem. When I remove a file from my desktop or a new icon is added as a result of some program adding an entry, the desktop isn't refreshed with autoarranged icons. I have looked and looked and can find no way to make this my desktop's behavior. I think this is terrible UI from a usability standpoint. I will attach the image showing the problem. -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
disappointed...still not fixed in intrepid!!! what the hell?! -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
look, i dont know what those gnome developers are smoking down there, but i want some. just look at my attached screenshot. nobody WANTS their icons to overlap like that, okay? thats just disgusting! your computer should be automatically organized neatly so that you can focus and find and do things more easily. please, my room is a horror to look at already. my computer is the thing that lets me get away from the disorganized hell that is my bedroom. please, for the love of humanity, save us! ** Attachment added: what are you smoking?! http://launchpadlibrarian.net/17316512/Screenshot.png -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
...and, when i insert a dvd, some flash drives, and an sd card, they should all NOT be in the exact same place on the screen! x_x -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
i agree with Jessie Lawrence it is true, it gives ubuntu a bad name, i am using hardy heron 8.04.1 and this problem persist, please fix it, I observed the same problem when I sticked two removable media (a usb hdd and a usb-stick) into the usb ports and when I mount my windows xp partition, Ubuntu overlapped desktop icons in a very ugly way. -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
look i dont really care how but i just want the gnome dudes to remake the way desktop icons are placed on the desktop, and soon (like no later than gnome 2.26). really obvious bugs like these give linux a bad name. im using 8.04 -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
This would probably need to involve the metafiles. I am guessing if somehow there is a way of listening for changes on the users' file://.../Desktop.xml file see what the changes are and if it is newly added then set a new position for the item. Followed by sending a notification to Nautilus. Could be a good way of learning the Nautilus API. -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
I'm not sure if it's related, but I can't get desktop icons in 8.04 x64 (with default of 2 workspaces) to stick in a certain position between logins. My 4 NTFS drive icons (auto-mounted) are lined up horizontally in bottom right hand corner on logout. Next login, 2 of them have moved to upper fight corner, and 1 is sometimes is partially cutoff on the right (halfway into the 2nd workspace). -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
There is also a Brainstorm idea related to this...as of July, 2008 it has over 300 votes. Come on, lets get this fixed! -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
Forgot URL:http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/3272/ -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
I was just browsing the internet to find a fix to wrap long text strings under icons. I completely agree with sambehera, the long strings under icons takes a lot of space on the desktop and it also looks very ugly, how hard can it be to fix this, seriously. Things like this make people revert back to windows, if they've got even through the installation process that is. Can you imagine ,, a total beginner spends al his time to make linux work on his system, starts up and is confronted with the overlapping of icons and long texts. Some people may not see this as a problem, but it looks totally ugly, and a desktop that looks like this is totally not ready to compete with windows xp's desktop. I think developers should consider fixing this. -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
Just out of curiosity (since I don't expect this will get fixed ever), does setting this to Triaged mean that it will be ignored by developers for the next release, or does it have some other significance? Thanks very much, Miles -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
