[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
Nautilus seems to remember where it last placed the icon for some volumes. When a file (or another volume) already sits at that spot, there's an overlap. This, however, does not seem to happen for all volumes. ** Attachment added: Screenshot.png http://launchpadlibrarian.net/41494494/Screenshot.png -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
I've built nautilus with Bill's patch in my ppa, totally unsafe to test, but feel free to. -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
This bug annoyed me too, so I created a patch and discussed it on the Nautilus mailing list. I have posted the patch at the Nautilus Bugzilla: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=601469 ** Bug watch added: GNOME Bug Tracker #601469 https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=601469 -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
Wait a moment, this never is going to be solved? -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
I think that this bug isn't such a big issue, but that bug #364001, should be addressed, as in comment #66. -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
This desktop bug has been around for too long; I would not consider it low priority. Here's a pic of Windows XP's desktop options; you can have overlapped icons or icons aligned to a grid. ** Attachment added: overalign.png http://launchpadlibrarian.net/35708635/overalign.png -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
Just to elaborate on the pic above, when Align to Grid is checked, you can't overlap icons by dragging one over another. This makes it different from Keep Aligned in Nautilus. -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
Definitely a usability bug, even if it is small. If it takes a user an extra 5 seconds or minute to find something on their desktop then I think it's definitely something that needs to be addressed. It's a shame that after three years and seven duplicate bugs it still hasn't been addressed. -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
If I get accepted for Google Summer of Code and Ubuntu oversees, I'd like to get a mentor to tackle this job. Go go year-one CS students! -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
In https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/364001 I've reported that desktop icons are placed by _default_ on top of one another. I claim that this is one bug, and the fact that users are allowed to overlap their icons is a separate one. That bug has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. I disagree. I think that if merely that bug I filed is fixed, hence new icons would be created (if possible) in a clear space, most of the overlap problem would be solved. -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
Miles and Wladston, complaining about economics in a bug report is counterproductive and impolite. if you want a programmer or OS vendor to fix a particular bug, please contact them directly. If you have suggestions on how to improve the Ubuntu bug-tracking process in general, try the ubuntu-qa mailing list. -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
Once again, I'm amazed how problems can be discussed for over 3 years with several ideas and propositions without leading to an improvement or even a solution. ... because there is always the 1 single user (type) or edge case which could possibly lead to loss of some freedom and individuality. -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
I gave up filing bugs against Gnome years ago for this very reason. I have much older bugs than this that have been mothballed. Because there are so fewdevelopers who are writing the gnome code, they are always overworked and thier priorities are determined by personal interests or thier corporations interests. What incentive is there for testers when 90% of thier bugs languish for years? Oh well. I don't blame anyone. I am sure everyone is doingthe best they can. I do deeply wish thatusers' priorities had greater influence, but so it goes. -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
Miles, same here. Filling bugs really doesn't count at all. They should discourage new users to do so, it only adds frustration ... -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
This bug has affected me ever since I started using ubuntu beginning with 7.04. When drives get mounted, or a cd is inserted, the icon more often than not, gets placed on top of an existing icon. Not a deal breaker, but annoying. -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
I would say make a variable grid if people would like to keep variable sized icons, meaning make a grid that is 32x32, 48x48, 64x64, 128x128 and then the default sorta-grid that Nautilus has right now... That's how KDE, XFCE, Windows 3.1 to 7, OS X all have it as Pelládi Gábor said. I know this idea is too complex for One Hundred Paper Cuts, but it's an important usability bug I think. -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
Of course, I completely agree that this is an important usability bug, or I would not have filed it years ago. I would love to see it fixed sometime. Let me know if you need more ideas about possible fix implementations. -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
i couldn't believe this bug is almost 3 years old, they have low resources, i agree, they have some major things to fix i agree, but dude come on, this bug was posted and acknowledged more than three years back, very frustrating. -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
those comments are not very useful, it's not really an easy code nor clear what the behaviour should be on the grib when you try to overlap icons, should text be able to slightly overlap and if not why not? should the cursor jump when you try to dnd an icon on an another one or should it move it? having a clear design would be a first step to get that changed -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
Could the design come with recommendation about what should happen when you dnd an icon near of an another one for example? -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
Excuse me if the previous comment was meant to be directed towards someone specifically, but since it sounds general I'll attempt to answer it. When an icon is dragged and dropped, the first thing that needs to be checked is whether or not the cursor was directly over another icon. If it was, the icon on which the file was released should be launched using the dragged file, exactly like it already does in GNOME. Secondly, which square on the grid the icon was released must be calculated. This means that there shouldn't be 1 pixel boundaries forming a grid, but rather every pixel must be part of one block in the grid. Thirdly, if no icon already occupies the square onto which the dragged icon was dropped, the dragged icon will simply be moved from its original square to the new one. However, if an icon already exists at that location, the dragged icon will be placed at that location and the icon that was already there will be bumped down one square in its column. Once the bumping of icons reaches the bottom of a column, it should move over to the top of the next column. Note: It would be nice to provide options for switching between the old and new desktop schemes (because otherwise someone will no doubt complain) and options for things like stacking icons in rows instead of columns and making the far right column the initial column (for people who are used to languages like Hebrew or Arabic). -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
having a grid with lines and columns is easy when you have a standard geometry for icons but if those can be scaled randomly how would that work exactly? -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
We could also try to abandon any idea of a grid and consider each icon as a separate square. If another square is placed on top of it, that square will instead be placed at the bottom corner of the square it was placed on top of. If there isn't any room at the bottom (mind Feynman), place the icon on the right corner of the square. I have no idea if this is realistic/implementable, but it was just a thought. Sebastien Bacher schreef: having a grid with lines and columns is easy when you have a standard geometry for icons but if those can be scaled randomly how would that work exactly? -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
Maybe disabling differently-scaled icons is the first step to improving the Desktop's usability. If icons are scalable, but all scale to the same degree, we can always draw a uniform grid to align them to. -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
There is already a preference in GNOME that that toggles between icons can be placed everywhere, and icons are snapped to a grid. The size of the grid is hardcoded in the source to a small value as a #define, and the grid width is greater than the height. What the supporters of this bug propose is the same solution as every other big desktop environment has on various operating systems, including Linux. Change the behavior of the align to a grid mode of the desktop, to be like viewing the Desktop folder in Nautilus. The grid size should be large enough to hold an icon, it should be a square, not a rectangle, and at most one icon should be allowed in one cell. The size of the icons must be maximized to the grid size. The icons can be placed anywhere mode of GNOME should stay untouched. Come on, you have to know the proposed solution, look at KDE, XFCE, Windows 3.1 to 7, OS X, all have this option. -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
Come on, you have to know the proposed solution, look at KDE, XFCE, Windows 3.1 to 7, OS X, all have this option. the microsoft os have a fixed icon geometry consitent over the desktop though no? I'm not against the option I just say we need a clear definition of the behaviour we want, ie how much should an icon be shifted when you try to move it over an another one when you can't draw a static grid there -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
This issue is far too complex to be a papercut ** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Status: Confirmed = Invalid -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
when you can't draw a static grid there Why not? Why can't we have a static grid in keep aligned mode? I say that we should have a static grid in keep aligned mode. -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
Why not? Why can't we have a static grid in keep aligned mode? I say that we should have a static grid in keep aligned mode. because you can have variable icon geometry -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
for me this is as simple as 1. place the draged icon where it was dropped 2. if there is already one or more icons that ocupy the space that will be required by the dragged icon, make space on the surrounding of the final dragged file (moving all the icons on the area if required) to acomodate the overlaping icons on the surrounding of the dragged icon. done! -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
because you can have variable icon geometry Then disable variable icon geometry in keep aligned mode, for the better good. -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
Technically, in nautilus-icon-container.c, I would like to change #define SNAP_SIZE_X 78 #define SNAP_SIZE_Y 20 to #define SNAP_SIZE_X 128 #define SNAP_SIZE_Y 128 and don't allow icons to be greater than the cell size 128 px. -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
Pelladi, that wouldn't correct the problem of having icons at the exact same location. However, what you suggested along with not allowing icons to be placed in the exact same spot should solve the problem. -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
I would like this fixed grid layout to include setting all icons to a fixed width and height (there could be a small, medium and large setting, or there could be a slider that allows a flexible selection of what this consistent icon size would be). Using the fixed grid layout would not require losing custom icon sizes, if someone wanted to go back to the non-grid layout. As far as I am concerned, no icon text should ever overlap in the grid layoiut mode. -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Importance: Undecided = Low ** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Status: New = Confirmed -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
** Also affects: hundredpapercuts Importance: Undecided Status: New -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
but if ms windows does it, what is the problem in here? -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
If that's true Sebastian, about nautilus having a grid, then what I think would be a suitable workaround for this bug is an option that not just aligns to a grid when clicked, but forces icons to persistently be aligned to a grid, thus forcing new volumes to not overlap or new folders to be hidden under existing icons. See Xubuntu, Kubuntu and Windows 95 to 7 for this. -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
yes but only when Keep Aligned is checked -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
This issue was the first bug I noticed with Ubuntu when I started using it over a year ago. Desktop icon placement and grid manipulation is not a low priority issue. Newer users (and many veterans) get a lot of value out of having desktop icons to represent work-in- progress...otherwise, why even support desktop icons. What do we have to do to increase the importance from Low to High? This is one of these issues that really makes me question the entire FOSS process...is anybody even listening? -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
the bug settings are correct, the issue is only a cosmetic one and nautilus has a grid, you can select the option to align on the grid in the menu and see how it's working. the bug is read but the ubuntu desktop team ressources are limited and ubuntu is not writting this software so you should better comment on bugzilla.gnome.org where the people writting the code will read your comments and suggestion. the topic has already been discussed and there is some non trivial cases due to the thumbnails for example -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
It is clear that the concept of a desktop grid is an idea that many users want and are familiar with. Every major desktop environment defaults to that. And it shouldn't be hard to implement, as nautilus file manager already organizes items in a grid. There is no use case when a user wants to have his icons overlap. -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
small, but really obvious bugs like these ruin the reputation of the rest of ubuntu. the first things people will notice when using ubuntu should work perfectly, and it should be the top priority to have them work perfectly. On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 11:30 AM, Pelládi Gábor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is clear that the concept of a desktop grid is an idea that many users want and are familiar with. Every major desktop environment defaults to that. And it shouldn't be hard to implement, as nautilus file manager already organizes items in a grid. There is no use case when a user wants to have his icons overlap. -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of the bug. Status in Nautilus: Confirmed Status in nautilus source package in Ubuntu: Triaged Bug description: I have some icons with long file names. Sometimes I unintentionally end up with completely illegible icon labels and overlapping icons. I have created a snapshot of my intentionally horrific example. This problem is easy to reproduce when working with file previews (irregularly shaped images) and icons with long file names. Just create some and drag them close together, paying attention to not trigger the a file move event. I have noticed what I consider to be a related problem. When I remove a file from my desktop or a new icon is added as a result of some program adding an entry, the desktop isn't refreshed with autoarranged icons. I have looked and looked and can find no way to make this my desktop's behavior. I think this is terrible UI from a usability standpoint. I will attach the image showing the problem. -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
disappointed...still not fixed in intrepid!!! what the hell?! -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
look, i dont know what those gnome developers are smoking down there, but i want some. just look at my attached screenshot. nobody WANTS their icons to overlap like that, okay? thats just disgusting! your computer should be automatically organized neatly so that you can focus and find and do things more easily. please, my room is a horror to look at already. my computer is the thing that lets me get away from the disorganized hell that is my bedroom. please, for the love of humanity, save us! ** Attachment added: what are you smoking?! http://launchpadlibrarian.net/17316512/Screenshot.png -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
...and, when i insert a dvd, some flash drives, and an sd card, they should all NOT be in the exact same place on the screen! x_x -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
i agree with Jessie Lawrence it is true, it gives ubuntu a bad name, i am using hardy heron 8.04.1 and this problem persist, please fix it, I observed the same problem when I sticked two removable media (a usb hdd and a usb-stick) into the usb ports and when I mount my windows xp partition, Ubuntu overlapped desktop icons in a very ugly way. -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
look i dont really care how but i just want the gnome dudes to remake the way desktop icons are placed on the desktop, and soon (like no later than gnome 2.26). really obvious bugs like these give linux a bad name. im using 8.04 -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
This would probably need to involve the metafiles. I am guessing if somehow there is a way of listening for changes on the users' file://.../Desktop.xml file see what the changes are and if it is newly added then set a new position for the item. Followed by sending a notification to Nautilus. Could be a good way of learning the Nautilus API. -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
I'm not sure if it's related, but I can't get desktop icons in 8.04 x64 (with default of 2 workspaces) to stick in a certain position between logins. My 4 NTFS drive icons (auto-mounted) are lined up horizontally in bottom right hand corner on logout. Next login, 2 of them have moved to upper fight corner, and 1 is sometimes is partially cutoff on the right (halfway into the 2nd workspace). -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
There is also a Brainstorm idea related to this...as of July, 2008 it has over 300 votes. Come on, lets get this fixed! -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
Forgot URL:http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/3272/ -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
I was just browsing the internet to find a fix to wrap long text strings under icons. I completely agree with sambehera, the long strings under icons takes a lot of space on the desktop and it also looks very ugly, how hard can it be to fix this, seriously. Things like this make people revert back to windows, if they've got even through the installation process that is. Can you imagine ,, a total beginner spends al his time to make linux work on his system, starts up and is confronted with the overlapping of icons and long texts. Some people may not see this as a problem, but it looks totally ugly, and a desktop that looks like this is totally not ready to compete with windows xp's desktop. I think developers should consider fixing this. -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
Just out of curiosity (since I don't expect this will get fixed ever), does setting this to Triaged mean that it will be ignored by developers for the next release, or does it have some other significance? Thanks very much, Miles -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
No, it basically means that it is a genuine bug and has all the
information necessary for it to be looked at by a developer. It is not
being ignored by developers. Also note that the priority is set low ('A
cosmetic/usability issue that does not limit the functionality of an
application'). The developers have more pressing bugs to work on and
will work on it when they can (if it hasn't already been fixed upstream
or if someone hasn't kindly contributed a patch by then).
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[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
This happens to me a lot when adding removable media and/or w/ scripts|programs creating files in ~/Desktop. Here's a snip of a screen shot: ** Attachment added: gnome-icon-trouble.jpg http://launchpadlibrarian.net/14612090/gnome-icon-trouble.jpg -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
What a pity, this bug is still present in hardy! -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
What a pity, this bug is still present in hardy! -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
i agree with Miles Lane about the automatic text wrapping for large files in nautilus if this was a bug only in the nautilus file browser, it would be bearable because one can always switch views... on the desktop however if i have a large file ksajdalkjdkslajdkhfjsfjdhfjkshfklhakljslajfsafas it does not get wrapped to ksajdalkjdks... or ksajda... depending on my default zoom level (icon size) but instead displays something like this... = || ICON || = ksajdalkjdk slajdkhfjsfj dhfjkshfklha kljslajfsafas and as you ca notice... this takes up valuable desktop space which can be used to fit more icons/launchers on the desktop of course... it is possible to rename these large files to have smaller names... but the entire file name for larger files should not be displayed on the desktop ... they should appear on a tooltip when hovered on... like in kde.. we are constrained with a limited screen space in a non-dynamic/non- flexible desktop environment ... (it is not a 3d desktop yet... where grid layout would cease to be important due to unlimited screenspace obtained by panning and zooming the desktop... ) so we should work within the constraints to maximize usability... (this is one aspect where gnome can use usability improvements found in windows as well as kde) -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
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[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
Upstream bug on http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=313563 ** Changed in: nautilus (upstream) Importance: Undecided = Unknown Bugwatch: None = GNOME Bug Tracker #313563 Status: Unconfirmed = Unknown -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
I can't believe I read that: is there any reason to prevent users to manually make their files overlap if they want too? YES! You should prevent people from doing so; It's extremely ugly and unprofessional. Xubuntu and Windows XP both have invisible grids that icons snap to. Say if the grid has squares that were 64x64 pixels each and it were mandatory and automatic for Ubuntu to resize desktop icons (but with the ability to disable) to 56x56 (INCLUDING the text), then there would be 8 pixels of padding all the way around. This way no text would overlap and neither would the icons. If one square was taken, but the user tried to drap an icon overtop, the icon would not be allowed to move there, or as in Windows XP, it would shift that icon, and then rest below it, one more square down. If the icons reached the bottom of the grid, they would then shift one column to the right, and begin at the top again. (Please note that I'm not sure of the exact sizes of the icons or grids, and am aware that they would be relational to the display resolution) I'll create a composition in Photoshop or Flash if anyone is confused. -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
I made a comment on this in the Ubuntu Forums on October 26, 2006, here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=284919. I've attached the screenshot that accompanied my thread. I also made another comment on March 5th, 2007, when I found the problem not only in 6.06 and 6.10 but also 7.04 (herd 5) here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=377055 [Please note, that this is a rant against the layout of Launchpad. I am impressed with the new interface that was recently released.] ** Attachment added: icons.png http://librarian.launchpad.net/7340040/icons.png -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
Why should the software forces you to use a determined grid rather than any location you want? You can move the icons in a way they don't overlap, that's easy, just dnd them until they look ok to you. What is a bug is when nautilus makes icons automatically placed overlap or doesn't wrap the text when icons are on a grid -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
Hello Brett, DId you read my earlier comment on this bug report? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/40872/comments/6 I think I addressed all the issues you raised. I'd add one feature possibility to my earlier comments. That is, it would be great (since so many people seem attached to resizable icons and image previews) to have all the unstretched, regularly sized icons arranged in a regular grid to the left of all resized icons and previews. This way, all the icons that can be displayed together in a regular grid will be. Also, I personally feel very strongly that the Gnome desktop should have an auto-rearrange option, where anything that changes the desktop icons (hotplugging, device removal, drag/drop of icons, and adding/removing desktop icons, cause all the icons to be rearranged and refreshed. As it is, I have to select rearrange from the desktop context menu every time. This is a bother and a usability problem. Since I made similar comments years ago, I have pretty much given up trying to get developers to make any of these changes. It just doesn't seem to be a priority for them. Miles -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
On 4/17/07, Sebastien Bacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why should the software forces you to use a determined grid rather than any location you want? You can move the icons in a way they don't overlap, that's easy, just dnd them until they look ok to you. What is a bug is when nautilus makes icons automatically placed overlap or doesn't wrap the text when icons are on a grid I am not saying that automatic placement should be mandatory. If you want to place icons by hand, be my guest. However, I have other things I'd rather be doing. I think that icon handling on the desktop is something that Microsoft has done really well. Obviously, the icon previews and icon resizing is something that a lot of Nautilus users are delighted with. I like the image previews, too. I just don't want to drag icons around to position them on the desktop. I have better things to do with my time. -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
Yes Miles, sorry, I did read your comment, but only after I posted mine. Ijust got excited that I the new interface is less convoluted than the last, so I finally figured out how to post a comment! You articulated your agrument better as well. I feel that overlapping text is amateur and ugly (see attachment). And I agree, one thing that Windows has down pat is their desktop. If there is one thing I think should be mimiked, it's the desktop. All the icons are the same size (to create consistancy), and have no overlapping text anywhere. It is neatly organized (and can be organized without auto- arrange) because of it's snap-to-grid function (which also limits how far the text can go on either side [see attachment again]). If, as you say Miles, everyone is up in flames about stretchable icons, then that's great, I don't mind that feature, but when icons liks XMMS or Movie Player have icons that are bitmaps and only 8 pixels big, while a new Adobe Reader icon is 128x128 and is in vector (or appears to be) standing side-by-side, this is just embarassing. It happened when I was install a fresh copy of Kubuntu Dapper on my cousin's computer. I was trying to impress her with all the great features of Linux/Ubuntu, and how customizeable it is, and then that happened. My face went pink. It should be mandatory (through auto-resized) that all icons be 64x64 (or a similar squared number) and so that there is consitancy. If all icons were SVG or a similar format, then the user could resize the image to their liking. Mark Shuttleworth has spoken of making true, intrinsic beauty for Ubuntu and I believe this is a stumbling block at the moment. If you say it's been around for years Miles, then I'm sad because I thought it was only a 6.06 error, which create my rant when I saw it AGAIN in 7.04 Herd 5. I guess if it's been around since before 4.10 (Warty), then I'll just have to fix it myself! Can anyone lead me in the right direction? [Half sarcasim/Half I seriously want to learn low-level programming and fix this (what should be a) minor problem] ** Attachment added: nautilus_desktop-overlap.07.04.16.png http://librarian.launchpad.net/7340285/nautilus_desktop-overlap.07.04.16.png -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
I can confirm this for: GNOME nautilus 2.18.1 (current 7.04 package) and, Gnome nautilus 2.14.3 (current 6.06 package) That first screenshot I took was 6.06 (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/40872/comments/9). The second screenshot I took was 7.04 (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/40872/comments/13) -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
Brett wrote: It happened when I was install a fresh copy of Kubuntu Dapper on my cousin's computer. Hmm. This bug report is specific to Gnome. Kubuntu is using KDE, so if the problem also shows up there, you need to open a new bug report. All the best. -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
Ahh shoot, I meant to say it happened in Gnome, and I was embarassed/she wanted something more aesthetically pleasing, so I converted her to Kubuntu. -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/40872 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
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[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
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[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
Thanks for your bug. What do you think that nautilus should do? Prevent you to move your icons where you want because the text overlap? The automatic placement bug is known (and dapper and edgy have some fix for it), but is there any reason to prevent users to manually make their files overlap if they want too? ** Changed in: nautilus (Ubuntu) Assignee: (unassigned) = Ubuntu Desktop Bugs Status: Confirmed = Needs Info -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://launchpad.net/bugs/40872 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
I proposed a approach to simplifying and solving the desktop icon layout issue about two or three years ago in the gnome.org bugzilla database, but my proposal was ignored. My belief is that Nautilus should perform icon title truncation like that which is done by Windows. So, for example One Two Three Four -- Here's a long icon title might appear as One Two Three -- Then, on a MouseOver event, the title would be rerendered in its complete form as highlighted text in a textbox. Moving the mouse pointer off of the textbox dismisses the textbox. There might need to be some maximum width for the textbox, where rediculouslylongstringsthatgoonandonforeverwithoutanyseparationcharaters get wrapped. I'm not sure how that should be handled, but I wonder how windows does it. I am all for desktop differentiation from Windows, but only when there is real usability benefit. Otherwise, meeting user expectations with desktop consistency far outweighs the benefits of tweaking UI. The benefits I see to this implementation are: Layout of desktop icons becomes vastly simpler, because the icon layout becomes a grid with the exception of those pesky (to me) enlarged or shrunken icons that Nautilus supports. Still, not having to contend with variable height icon labels would greatly increase the consitency of icon layout, which would (I think) lead to fewer UI layout bugs -- a byproduct of K.I.S.S.. Personally, I would do away with enlarged and shrunken icons, but everytime I mention this I get shouted down with reasons that simply make no sense to me. On to your comment about allowing users to put icons where they want to. I disagree that this should be an option. Sure, allow users to place an icon in a region, but having icons or icon labels overlap is harnful to the usability of the desktop. I am not saying that there should be a mandatory snap to grid layout. I am just saying that when the grid is disabled, newly added icons should never overlap another icon unless all the desktop is filled with icons (something that I have seen my wife do with her Apple OS/X desktop for some insane reason). In addition to the problem of icons positioned by users is the issue of icons that are put of the desktop as a result of persistent network connections, hotplug events for firewire, PCMCIA and USB devices. When devices, drives and drive partitions are detected during the setup of the desktop, oftentimes the associated icons are overlapped when the user icons are added. This is just plain wrong. To resolve this particular problem, I suggest Nautilus render user icons first, so that other mechanisms (hotplug, etc) add the icons around the user-defined icons (documents, program links, etc). One last observation, Windows has one more feature that I find quite appealing. When the desktop is set to automatically place icons in a grid, I can click on an icon and drag it around the sequence of icons. The icons (as I am sure you know) are arranged from top-left to bottom- left in columns that stack from left to right. So, dragging an icon from the middle of the leftmost column to the middle of a second column causes all the icons between the icon's initial and new position to shift up in the stack. This enables very straightforward position of icons in heirarchy of frequency of use. At least, this is how I utilise it. So, I would very much like to see Nautilus support this as an optional layout method. Comments, questions and concerns? Thanks, Miles -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://launchpad.net/bugs/40872 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
I observed a similar problem when I sticked two removable media (a usb hdd and a usb-stick) into the usb ports. Ubuntu overlapped them in a very ugly way. -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://launchpad.net/bugs/40872 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
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[Bug 40872] Re: Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly
Ubuntu development distro (6.06 + all current updates) I have the universe and multiverse repositories added to dapper, dapper-updates, dapper-security -- main and restricted. Currently, nautilus is version 2.14.1-0ubuntu4. -- Desktop icons are allowed to overlap horribly https://launchpad.net/bugs/40872 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
