[Bug 440465] Re: removing pulseaudio breaks sound control
As you may have seen in other bugs, I've been working on rebuilding some packages for those running without pulseaudio: https://launchpad.net/~dtl131/+archive/ppa ALSA users will be interested in the gnome packages. OSS/4 users will also want the canberra packages. NOTE: don't install the portaudio packages right now. I'm still hacking them to get portaudio to work with OSS4. This command will help you set gstreamer properties: gstreamer-properties Are there other programs in Karmic that are configured at build time to only use pulse? Please let me know. I saw openjdk6 mentioned, but that can be reconfigured without rebuilding (look in /etc/java-6-openjdk/sound.properties file) -- removing pulseaudio breaks sound control https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/440465 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-media in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 440465] Re: removing pulseaudio breaks sound control
Dave, thanks for your work! It helps a lot. I have full control of my Creative SB Audigy card again. -- removing pulseaudio breaks sound control https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/440465 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-media in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 440465] Re: removing pulseaudio breaks sound control
Not sure about what entity you are speaking about there but upstream and ubuntu would probably happy to review any constructive changeset, and no undoing the work done in the recent cycles to go back to an old, buggy and unmaintained codebase is not a solution we would be wanting to use there, calling things crap doesn't help to make your point either closing the bug again since that's not a bug but a design decision, you are welcome to work fixing the issue though and submitting changes to allow flexibility as long as they don't lead to breaking the current user experience or going back to unmaintained codebases ** Changed in: gnome-media (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Invalid -- removing pulseaudio breaks sound control https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/440465 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-media in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 440465] Re: removing pulseaudio breaks sound control
you should also not use the number of comments as a metric there, 36 comments is a pretty low count compared to some other bugs and that just shows that the current audio stack has still issues, which is something we know about, not that going back to old technologies rather than fixing what we have now and going forward is the way to solve those -- removing pulseaudio breaks sound control https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/440465 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-media in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 440465] Re: removing pulseaudio breaks sound control
No one here suggests to go back to old technologies. There is nothing to go back to. ALSA is still Ubuntu's soundsystem. And it will stay there in the future. The point is to have a choice to switch off unnecessary component - pulseaudio, just like compiz and other bellswhistles: one choice - one click. -- removing pulseaudio breaks sound control https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/440465 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-media in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 440465] Re: removing pulseaudio breaks sound control
Sebastien can correct me if I'm wrong or out of line, but I don't think the problem is that anyone is against having a check-box to switch off pulse audio. The problem is that pulseaudio was developed or added in a way that makes the actual work of enabling and disabling it a lot more complicated than flipping a switch. Right now it actually involves removing packages and perhaps build new ones that can be installed to replace some of the removed ones. Looking at just the dependants of the pulseaudio package shows that you'll need new non-pulseaudio dependent versions of things like openjdk-6-jre (aka java) and even ubuntu- desktop. On top of that you may need the dependents of openjdk-6-jre to be modified to work with the non-pulseaudio dependent openjdk-6-jre. It would be nice if a set of packages could be built to support running with or without pulseaudio. It sounds like that is not a priority for Ubuntu's developers. Maybe they would be willing to accept them if the community provided it. At the very least it could live out in universe. (I'm not sure if that's the right term for it.) Frankly, I've got the impression that the way that Gnome or Pulseaudio are being developed makes this more and more difficult, but I'm not sure about that. Basically it sounds like making pulseaudio work for those users/hardware for whom it can work requires a setup that completely breaks sound for users/hardware for whom pulseaudio cannot or will not support. 'The Perfect Pulse Audio Installation' provided by the pulseaudio developers does not allow for a user to turn off pulseaudio. You could run pasuspender but it will kill sound for everything that's been forced to only support pulseaudio to work in 'The Perfect Pulse Audio Installation'. Related to a question I had on launch pad, I have started to investigate what packages would need non-pulseaudio dependent versions to allow a working system without pulseaudio enabled. I haven't pursued it much yet because I'm not sure if the work will be welcomed by the devs or not. Also any code contributions coming from me right now would have to be considered legally encumbered. I can try to address that, but it has the potential to cause me difficulties that I'm not will to risk unless I know I won't be fighting against the Ubuntu devs. If the work is sure to be rejected, I have other things to do. Swimming against the stream is not a hobby of mine. At a high level, I think the plan should be something like: 1. List dependants. Build a tree of packages dependent on the pulseaudio related packages. (dependants, dependants of dependants, etc) We can use the dependants field in the deb files. It may not be right in all cases, but it's a start. 2. Drop pulseaudio dependant features and related packages. Determine which of the dependant packages are just not needed if you are not running pulseaudio. Pulseaudio is required for various sound related feature that are 'bells whistles' like bluetooth support. With pulseaudio removed those features and the packages that implement them simply cannot work. - Are there any packages that must be removed if pulseaudio is to be disabled. - If so could they be changed to not need to be removed? I think the check-box solution gets more difficult as the list of packages that is required to be removed when the check-box toggles grows. We should make the list of packages that need to be removed because pulseaudio is enable or disabled as small as possible. 3. Fix remaining dependants. For each package that should be able to work without pulseaudio we need to determine: - Can the existing package work without pulseaudio? - If so, would we be allowed to remove the dependency in the deb file and put pulseaudio/no-pulseaudio configuration under control of the check-box. - Otherwise I guess we build an otherwise identical package. - Can the package be modified to work both with and without pulseaudio based on the check-box? - Do we put a separate hybrid package in universe (or somewhere)? - Can we replace the current pulseaudio-only package with the hybrid? - Is is not possible to make at hybrid package? We do not want any of these, but reality will always win. - These packages will need to be removed and replaced when the check-box toggled. Yuck! - Or we just don't support them. - Or we just remove what we have to when toggling and require the user to manually replace them using a cookbook. - Since the desktop package will probably need to be changed, we won't need to switch between pulseaudio-only packages and hybrid packages when toggling the check-box. Again, this is just a plan I'm concocting on my own. I am not a Ubuntu dev. I don't even have a lot of experience with Ubuntu. To my knowledge I have nobody's blessing. I'm just
[Bug 440465] Re: removing pulseaudio breaks sound control
** Changed in: gnome-media (Ubuntu) Status: Invalid = Confirmed -- removing pulseaudio breaks sound control https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/440465 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-media in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 440465] Re: removing pulseaudio breaks sound control
I've changed the status of this bug to confirmed for one simple reason: More than one person has reported the same error with the same symptoms. You can add me to that list as well - ripping that pulseaudio crap from my system fixed my sound problems. Sebastian, you claim the Ubuntu team doesn't have the resouces to adapt, but you're forgetting the core philosophy of open source: If entity A can't fix/do/undo something in their project, but entity B can, then entity A should accept and merge entitiy B's changes into the official project. At least a few people have come up with procedures that effectively solve the problem. There are now 36 comments on this bug, most of which are either complaints or responses to those complaints. How many does there need to be to get something changed!? -- removing pulseaudio breaks sound control https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/440465 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-media in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 440465] Re: removing pulseaudio breaks sound control
Currently you can solve the problem in karmic: 1. Remove pulseaudio and gstreamer0.10-pulseaudio. 2. upgrade from this ppa: https://launchpad.net/~dtl131/+archive/ppa 3. remove the new volume applet, corrupted with pulseaudio, from gnome-session-properties. 4. add restored old volume control applet to panel. 5. set input and output to alsa in gstreamer-properties. 6. make sure the key /desktop/gnome/sound/default_mixer_tracks in gconf contains desired channel to control with keyboard. Usually it is the Master channel. You can look for the name in alsamixer. everything should work fine then. -- removing pulseaudio breaks sound control https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/440465 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-media in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 440465] Re: removing pulseaudio breaks sound control
I agree with the last two paragraphs of post #33. The increased instability of Ubuntu scares me, since it is a real threat to new users. Although I get frustrated myself, I have some experience of fixing things even when the problem does not follow a common -nix logic. I have brought a number of users to Ubuntu so far, however, this influx may be jeopardized by the issues like pulseaudio. Personally, I do get it when it is a new card and does not have to be stable. What if it has been stable with alsa/oss/esd before? I hope pulseaudio is not being nice just to me and most users especially newbies are not hurt... What is more disappointing is there is less and less ALTERNATIVES out there. I am not ready for it... However, I posted it earlier concerning some other pulseaudio issues https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/439815 . I was able to build gnome-media package without pulseaudio: deinstall it first then To rebuild gnome-media-2.28.1 from source: download and unpack the source package. cd to the directory. You will have to do sudo apt-get build-dep gnome-media, with which pulseaudio libs could be also be installed, it is harmless I guess at this point. Then configure like this. ./configure --disable-pulseaudio --enable-gstmix --enable-gstprops --enable-grecord --disable-scrollkeeper Then I used fakeroot make with checkinstall to compile and build it. I can now run gnome-volume-control with oss and/or alsa mixers... However, I still get issues with the notification area applets on GNOME.Rhythmbox is acting up, perhaps, becuase it uses pulse as the output, I got amarok, audacious, xmms and mplayer instead :) Nevertheless, haven't had any system locks (which most likely were due to pulseaudio server) ever since I removed the package. Hope, it helps some -- removing pulseaudio breaks sound control https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/440465 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-media in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 440465] Re: removing pulseaudio breaks sound control
Sorry if I'm missing something, but doesn't removing the packages in step one also remove thing like the desktop package? Won't that break you on updates or upgrades? -- removing pulseaudio breaks sound control https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/440465 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-media in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 440465] Re: removing pulseaudio breaks sound control
ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage, that does not contain anything. It is safe to remove it. You can then just mark it for installation to see if something new was added to it's dependencies, and then decide if you want to install this something manually, without actually installing ubuntu-desktop. -- removing pulseaudio breaks sound control https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/440465 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-media in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 440465] Re: removing pulseaudio breaks sound control
Psy, thanks for the help, but before I go down that unsupported of a route, I'll go back to Gentoo. I switched to Ubuntu because I was getting tired of doing so much work to roll my own. I didn't expect to be so broken by the switch. You have Ubuntu closing bugs saying you have to use Pulse Audio and if there's a problem go pester them. Then you have Pulse Audio say they won't support you (or at least my) card and if you don't like it, don't use Pulse Audio. It appears to me that this problem will not be fixed because no one will take responsibility for the damage done. The developers making decisions are quite rude about it and the broken users have been push way past any reasonable level of patients. At this point it just a matcher of getting the situation documented so users who experience future problems don't set their expectations too high too soon. Linux is now in another period of unreliable sound. It's been over a decade for me since I last saw something like it. But it's all over the floor and the current developers will not address it. -- removing pulseaudio breaks sound control https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/440465 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-media in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 440465] Re: removing pulseaudio breaks sound control
For people disappointed with PulseAudio - see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8130297postcount=25 Those scripts allow You to have a fully functional Karmic sound setup without PulseAudio. First, execute the following in a terminal: $ sudo apt-get purge libcanberra-pulse pulseaudio pulseaudio-esound-compat pulseaudio-module-bluetooth pulseaudio-module-gconf pulseaudio-module-udev pulseaudio-module-x11 gstreamer0.10-pulseaudio pulseaudio-utils pavucontrol $ sudo apt-get install gnome-alsamixer alsa-oss python-alsaaudio Then, unpack those 5 files somewhere (but it's better not to change the location later), add: python /PATH/TO/alsavol.py python /PATH/TO/volbar.py (You can also run them in a current instance by pressing Alt+F2 twice and writing there those commands) At last, open System - Settings - Keyboard Shortcuts and add a custom shortcut key named alsa mute and command /PATH/to/alsa_master_mute and assign the mute key to this command. Do the same for down and up. Instructions thanks to richie2.0. :) P.S. Remember to change sound setup in all applications from pulse to alsa (e.g. in (s)mplayer, vlc, VirtualBox etc.). P.S.2. I tried pulse, I used it with Karmic for a month, but it caused so many troubles for me that I decided I don't want to fight with this any longer. -- removing pulseaudio breaks sound control https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/440465 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-media in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 440465] Re: removing pulseaudio breaks sound control
I am experiencing the same problem. Pulseaudio has been bad to my architecture since it was released. What I am amazed at iis the fact that before pulseaudio, once the card was configured with alsa the setup was very stable. I could run any application with no problem. THen comes pulseaudio that breaks linphone or ekiga all of a sudden. Then after all we get this features fraught piece-of-art pulseaudio offering a lot of options. With all these options I see my applications refuse to communicate every once in a while. This time more of them, even good-ol mplayer is a whiner. These all are minor nuisances one can tolerate, however, when pulseaudio gives me a system crash, this is a way too much . It should be exterminated. Now the question is, how to build gnome-media package without pulseaudio? I keep getting errors concerning install-doc all the time. Some *xml and *omf files seem to not exist in the ubuntu gnome-media source. was anyone lucky there? -- removing pulseaudio breaks sound control https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/440465 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-media in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 440465] Re: removing pulseaudio breaks sound control
Having this problem too. 5.1 output in Pulseaudio makes sound damaged, so I removed PA. ALSA sound is clean, but no volume control applet, so I can't control volume from my keyboard (there is volume whell). -- removing pulseaudio breaks sound control https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/440465 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-media in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 440465] Re: removing pulseaudio breaks sound control
Great..this is all just great. Now my favorite native game is broken and the FPS drop is extreme..good job -- removing pulseaudio breaks sound control https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/440465 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-media in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 440465] Re: removing pulseaudio breaks sound control
I've migrated to Xubuntu. It doesn't use PulseAudio and runs much faster -- removing pulseaudio breaks sound control https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/440465 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-media in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 440465] Re: removing pulseaudio breaks sound control
Insulting people is not how you get them to work on your issues, nobody deny that pulseaudio has issues and it has been talked over and over all over the place, the ubuntu team doesn't have ressources to undo GNOME changes which force the pulseaudio use and decided to work with the people writting the code rather than against them there which is the constructive thing to do -- removing pulseaudio breaks sound control https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/440465 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-media in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 440465] Re: removing pulseaudio breaks sound control
Real problem is not just the mixer :( Pulseaudio don't work with 5.1 sound properly. When switch to 5.1 sound from default mixer (this one, the new mixer and pulseaudio installed) I hear sound artefacts (just adjust volume up or down and ugliest sound is here). Audacious play ugly too when pulseadio is installed ( enjoy alsa plugin, volume up or down to reproduce). VLC player too have issue when pulse is installed, switching output to alsa, not the solution, menus with multichanel audio switch is inactive ... and maybe more apps have similar problems when pulse is installed. When remove pulseaudio apps working correct with alsa, except totem - totem has no sound :(. This affect totem-mozilla and everything in browser is broken (video, audio, online tv ...) 01:08.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 0a) I think in debian sid have a patch for this (but I'm not sure, in debian never had probelms with alsa) totem (2.28.1-2) unstable; urgency=low [ Emilio Pozuelo Monfort ] * debian/patches/02_use_gconf_audio_sink.patch: - Don't try to use PulseAudio inconditionally, use the user defined one from GConf instead. Closes: #548260. [ Josselin Mouette ] * Add missing shlibs:Depends in totem-mozilla. -- Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org Sat, 24 Oct 2009 12:29:50 +0200 -- removing pulseaudio breaks sound control https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/440465 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-media in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 440465] Re: removing pulseaudio breaks sound control
another examples: launching zynaddsubfx either breaks playback for everything else, or sound does not work in it. Launching it with padsp results in garbled sound. ...but the real problem is not the mixer, but volume control: there is no volume control from panel and keyboard without pulseaudio, and there is a strange behavior of volume control in pulseaudio which mess with PCM channel. And the problem above all - is a straight-out forcing. -- removing pulseaudio breaks sound control https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/440465 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-media in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 440465] Re: removing pulseaudio breaks sound control
Could you stop spamming this closed bug now, if you have issues with pulseaudio open bugs against it rather that would be constructive -- removing pulseaudio breaks sound control https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/440465 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-media in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 440465] Re: removing pulseaudio breaks sound control
I've got the same problem. Sebastien, you should acknowledge that a lot of people have problems after upgrading the system. PulseAudio is a crap. I don't really understand why I need this nonworking between application and ALSA. All multimedia applications can output sound through ALSA directly. ALSA has all features to watch movies and listen to music. Why when I upgrade the system I get nonworking system? PulseAudio shpould be optional by default!!! Let geeks make brainf...cking with PulseAudio. I wanna get working system when I upgrade Ubuntu. Pulseaudio had problems, has now and will have in a future. I'm sure with that Cheers -- removing pulseaudio breaks sound control https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/440465 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-media in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 440465] Re: removing pulseaudio breaks sound control
I agree that fixing pulseaudio is a constructive course of action. But: I disagree with no bug - no problem policy. In this case closed bug does not mean that problem isn't there! And second: I am fully agree with Dmitry: pulseaudio is just bells and whistles that should be *optional*! Jaunty was ideal in this: it worked both with and without pulseaudio, without dirty hacks. The title of this bug defines the problem precisely! -- removing pulseaudio breaks sound control https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/440465 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-media in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 440465] Re: removing pulseaudio breaks sound control
The fact that removing unnecessary component breaks basic functions, points out that current design is really flawed. If I remove compiz, metacity will not go berserk because of that. But such rabid forcing of incomplete and buggy soundsystem is really surprising. While pulseaudio can't properly emulate and replace alsa and oss interfaces for every app, and while it gives latency up to ten (!) times as massive as pure alsa (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/294666), there should be a choise! -- removing pulseaudio breaks sound control https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/440465 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-media in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 440465] Re: removing pulseaudio breaks sound control
Which component now handles XF86Audio*Volume buttons by default? is in possible to manually change associated commands there instead of creating custom actions in gnome-keybindings-properties? -- removing pulseaudio breaks sound control https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/440465 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-media in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 440465] Re: removing pulseaudio breaks sound control
gnome-settings-daemon handle those keys and it's not easy to change it since it's not a command run but a service running and handling lot of settings in GNOME, efforts would be better spent making sure pulseaudio works correctly for everybody since that's where the linux world is aligning anyway nowadays -- removing pulseaudio breaks sound control https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/440465 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-media in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 440465] Re: removing pulseaudio breaks sound control
That's not a bug but a design decision from upstream and not something ubuntu will change now, closing the bug, you are free to use universe mixer controling alsa though there is plenty of those ** Changed in: gnome-media (Ubuntu) Status: New = Invalid ** Changed in: gnome-media (Ubuntu) Assignee: (unassigned) = Ubuntu Desktop Bugs (desktop-bugs) -- removing pulseaudio breaks sound control https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/440465 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 440465] Re: removing pulseaudio breaks sound control
the changes described before would be quite some extra packaging efforts and break upgrades since the mixer applet wouldn't be replaced on upgrade and duplicate the new one, it's easier to install universe mixers for those who want those ** Changed in: gnome-media (Ubuntu) Importance: Low = Wishlist ** Changed in: gnome-media (Ubuntu) Status: Invalid = Incomplete ** Changed in: gnome-media (Ubuntu) Assignee: Ubuntu Desktop Bugs (desktop-bugs) = (unassigned) ** Changed in: gnome-media (Ubuntu) Status: Incomplete = Invalid ** Changed in: gnome-media (Ubuntu) Status: Invalid = Incomplete ** Changed in: gnome-media (Ubuntu) Status: Incomplete = Invalid -- removing pulseaudio breaks sound control https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/440465 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-media in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 440465] Re: removing pulseaudio breaks sound control
and what about keyboard shortcuts? adding custom commands is not a very clean workaround. -- removing pulseaudio breaks sound control https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/440465 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-media in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 440465] Re: removing pulseaudio breaks sound control
you are on your own about this one, the gnome-settings-daemon codebase is totally different and both can't be built there -- removing pulseaudio breaks sound control https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/440465 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-media in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
