[Bug 52476] Re: 'fixed' font doesn't seem to appear in gnome-terminal's font list

2006-07-31 Thread Sebastien Bacher
if you run sudo dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig, is the bitmap fonts
option activated?

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[Bug 52476] Re: 'fixed' font doesn't seem to appear in gnome-terminal's font list

2006-07-31 Thread Peter Maydell
bitmap fonts option no, it wasn't. I've turned it on, and 'fixed' does
now appear in the list of available fonts. (So I suppose the original
problem could be considered user error. As it happens I didn't do the
original install on this machine.)

However, gnome-terminal still doesn't seem to be handling it correctly.
This is a bitmap font, so it should only be offered at the right size
(which happens to be 10 for 'fixed'), whereas gnome-terminal still
allows you to set a size (and presumably scales the font) and gives no
indication of what the natural size of the font is. Compare emacs, which
gets this right -- the shift-right-click font menu just offers 'fixed'
rather than any scaling options.

I know that the fontconfig stuff is because it's really aimed at fully
scalable truetype fonts for applications which want to display usually
proportional text at the user's choice of font and size. But gnome-
terminal isn't really that kind of application -- it's a terminal, and
it needs a fixed-width font -- so using a standard font setup and font
selection dialog is arguably the wrong thing. For example, the dialog
lets you pick a non-fixed-width font (try 'Free Sans medium 10' and
watch the display get messed up whenever there's an m) -- it should
probably not display proportional fonts at all (or if it must, behind
some kind of 'experts only' checkbox). So I suppose that's really what
I'm complaining about -- gnome-terminal is trying to use a generic font
selection system which is relatively poorly suited to a program
displaying straightforward fixed-width text (so it lets you select
totally unsuitable fonts and doesn't necessarily display fonts which are
ideal for the terminal but which might be disabled in the system wide
config because they don't make sense in the general case.)

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[Bug 52476] Re: 'fixed' font doesn't seem to appear in gnome-terminal's font list

2006-07-31 Thread Peter Maydell
Reopening since this bug was originally closed for the wrong reason (I
think you'd have to try quite hard to manage an X server without the
'fixed' font) and there are still outstanding issues here.


** Changed in: gnome-terminal (Ubuntu)
   Status: Rejected = Unconfirmed

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[Bug 52476] Re: 'fixed' font doesn't seem to appear in gnome-terminal's font list

2006-07-31 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Rewritting the font selector widget is not something we are likely to do
any time soon according to the number of Ubuntu desktop bugs and the
number of people working on it. Marking the feature request as rejected
for Ubuntu, feel free to bring it upstream if you want

** Changed in: gnome-terminal (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Untriaged = Wishlist
 Assignee: (unassigned) = Ubuntu Desktop Bugs
   Status: Unconfirmed = Rejected

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[Bug 52476] Re: 'fixed' font doesn't seem to appear in gnome-terminal's font list

2006-07-31 Thread Peter Maydell
In my opinion forwarding upstream problems upstream is one of the jobs
of the distribution maintainer. Also I don't think that rejected is
the right category for good idea if we had the time -- it should be
enhancement or priority dogwash or some other thing that says yes
this is a bug but not one we can or should fix immediately Or for that
matter you could have a way to say forwarded upstream. But rejected
is definitely the wrong thing because it means this is not a bug.

Having said all that I don't care enough about this issue to do anything
more so I guess it dies here.

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[Bug 52476] Re: 'fixed' font doesn't seem to appear in gnome-terminal's font list

2006-07-31 Thread Sebastien Bacher
as written previously Marking the feature request as rejected for
Ubuntu. I consider forwarding feature request as a part of maintainers
jobs too, but we have hundreds of desktop bugs backlog at the moment and
very few people working on them, which means we have to take decisions.
We can set the bug as confirmed and it'll probably still be like that in
weeks with no new comment, the issue is that is that it makes harder to
work on the list of bugs since it's in the middle of things that have a
higher priority. Anyway, setting it as confirmed if you prefer, maybe in
some weeks we will catch up enough to forward wishlists too

** Changed in: gnome-terminal (Ubuntu)
   Status: Rejected = Confirmed

** Summary changed:

- 'fixed' font doesn't seem to appear in gnome-terminal's font list
+ the font selector should not allow to pick any font but fixed ones only

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[Bug 52476] Re: 'fixed' font doesn't seem to appear in gnome-terminal's font list

2006-07-30 Thread Thomas Folz-Donahue
Yes, I can confirm, fixed does not appear there.

Have you looked at fixed in xfontsel?  All I see is a bunch of hiragana,
and then some kanji.  Maybe the only fixed-family font Ubuntu ships by
default is Japanese?

** Changed in: gnome-terminal (Ubuntu)
   Status: Unconfirmed = Confirmed

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