[Bug 792636] Re: Power section no longer allows configuration of "when the lid is closed" action in Oneiric
Having attended two conferences recently (LinuxCon and LinuxPlumbers), I heard this complaint over and over and over again about both Unity and Gnome3. I'm raising this bug to "Critical" (though I suspect it'll be lowered to "High"), nominating for Oneiric, and targeting at the 11.10 release. I've also noted in the bug description that this is a regression from previous versions of Ubuntu. Hopefully this bug will get some attention and get fixed! Cheers, Dustin ** Changed in: gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) Importance: Medium => Critical ** Also affects: gnome-control-center (Ubuntu Oneiric) Importance: Critical Status: Triaged ** Summary changed: - Power section no longer allows configuration of "when the lid is closed" action in Oneiric + [Regression] Power section no longer allows configuration of "when the lid is closed" action in Oneiric ** Changed in: gnome-control-center (Ubuntu Oneiric) Milestone: None => ubuntu-11.10 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/792636 Title: [Regression] Power section no longer allows configuration of "when the lid is closed" action in Oneiric To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/792636/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 792636] Re: Power section no longer allows configuration of "when the lid is closed" action in Oneiric
Colin: The best way to do that is to scroll to the top of this page and click "Does this bug affect you?" and "Yes, this bug affects me". -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/792636 Title: Power section no longer allows configuration of "when the lid is closed" action in Oneiric To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/792636/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 792636] Re: Power section no longer allows configuration of "when the lid is closed" action in Oneiric
I would like to add myself to the list of those who think that there should be a setting for what happens when laptop lid is closed, in the hope that if enough users make the point then some action may be taken. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/792636 Title: Power section no longer allows configuration of "when the lid is closed" action in Oneiric To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/792636/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 792636] Re: Power section no longer allows configuration of "when the lid is closed" action in Oneiric
Hey, actually I found the config key moved from gconf to gsettings (can be edited trough dconf-editor) under /org/gnome/settings-daemon/power /lid-close-*-action -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/792636 Title: Power section no longer allows configuration of "when the lid is closed" action in Oneiric To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/792636/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 792636] Re: Power section no longer allows configuration of "when the lid is closed" action in Oneiric
Hy! I can understand the opinion of the gnome developers (even if I can't agree with them) but as they removed the gconf keys too, that's insane :( The best way maybe would be to provide a simple gui for simple users with an advenced button in the corner (only one more item, that will never be pushed by someone who hates options) what is usefull for the users who love options.. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/792636 Title: Power section no longer allows configuration of "when the lid is closed" action in Oneiric To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/792636/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 792636] Re: Power section no longer allows configuration of "when the lid is closed" action in Oneiric
I too am keenly interested in getting this back in the UI, as my bug # 840089 was determined invalid. In my opinion gnome-tweak, gsettings hacking, etc is not relevant, as this is an easy to understand (and desired) setting for many people -- and it existed in Natty :) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/792636 Title: Power section no longer allows configuration of "when the lid is closed" action in Oneiric To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/792636/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 792636] Re: Power section no longer allows configuration of "when the lid is closed" action in Oneiric
Tom: Thanks for the link... that's an interesting read, and unfortunately, they lost me completely at the statement :"The other reason not to include this setting is, of course, that it is another setting and, as we all know, settings kill kittens." This is NOT "Another" setting, it's an "existing" setting. It did not ADD to the pool of existing settings, it was already there to begin with. And from reading the comments I can see that I am not in the minority in having issue with removing this functionality. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/792636 Title: Power section no longer allows configuration of "when the lid is closed" action in Oneiric To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/792636/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 792636] Re: Power section no longer allows configuration of "when the lid is closed" action in Oneiric
Dave: No worries :) I actually appreciate your workaround, and learning about gnome-tweak, something I've never needed before. Like I said, it is fine for you and I, but not Mom and Dad (for most samples of Mom and Dad). I am just more frustrated that, as Tom points out, this seems to be a philosophical change, rather than one of any technical merit. And I'm firmly on the other side of the debate here, as I am strongly against too much "dumbing down" of Linux. Make it easier to use for the average person, sure, but don't make it brain-dead. One of the BIGGEST draws to Linux aside from stability is that you can configure SO MUCH so easily, and limiting this, IMHO, takes away from Linux instead of adding any real value. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/792636 Title: Power section no longer allows configuration of "when the lid is closed" action in Oneiric To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/792636/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 792636] Re: Power section no longer allows configuration of "when the lid is closed" action in Oneiric
> Is there any benefit to NOT allowing users to configure this behaviour in the system configuration tools that ship with Ubuntu? Here's a blog post about the issue from the point of view of a GNOME 3 developer: http://afaikblog.wordpress.com/2011/02/03/on-laptop-lids-and- power-settings/ Their reasoning for this change is: "The vast majority of people do not like lots of settings" While I can understand that philosophy, the fact is that there ARE lots of settings available and GNOME 3 is just making them harder to get to. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/792636 Title: Power section no longer allows configuration of "when the lid is closed" action in Oneiric To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/792636/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 792636] Re: Power section no longer allows configuration of "when the lid is closed" action in Oneiric
Don't get me wrong, I absolutely agree with you that the functionality should be in the default system config tools. I'm just assisting in providing another workaround until this problem gets solved properly. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/792636 Title: Power section no longer allows configuration of "when the lid is closed" action in Oneiric To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/792636/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 792636] Re: Power section no longer allows configuration of "when the lid is closed" action in Oneiric
Why should a user have to install gnome-tweak (assuming they knew what gnome-tweak was to begin with)? This was easily configurable previously, someone just decided that users wouldn't want to actually prevent their system from suspending when the lid is closed. But expecting the majority of users to start editing config files manually, or intuiting that there's something called "gnome-tweak" that will allow them to actually configure the power settings on their system isn't a proper solution for an OS geared towards the masses. To be honest, I'm NOT a typical user, and this is really the first time I've ever heard of gnome-tweak myself. Is there any benefit to NOT allowing users to configure this behaviour in the system configuration tools that ship with Ubuntu? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/792636 Title: Power section no longer allows configuration of "when the lid is closed" action in Oneiric To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/792636/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 792636] Re: Power section no longer allows configuration of "when the lid is closed" action in Oneiric
Yup, just goes blank. If you prefer a gui, you could install "gnome-tweak" Shell > Laptop lid close You can change the setting for when running on battery and when connected to AC. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/792636 Title: Power section no longer allows configuration of "when the lid is closed" action in Oneiric To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/792636/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 792636] Re: Power section no longer allows configuration of "when the lid is closed" action in Oneiric
Does the screen just go blank after that workaround, or what? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/792636 Title: Power section no longer allows configuration of "when the lid is closed" action in Oneiric To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/792636/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 792636] Re: Power section no longer allows configuration of "when the lid is closed" action in Oneiric
I confirm Tom Adams' workaround. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/792636 Title: Power section no longer allows configuration of "when the lid is closed" action in Oneiric To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/792636/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 792636] Re: Power section no longer allows configuration of "when the lid is closed" action in Oneiric
I've found a workaround for those who might need it: Edit /etc/UPower/UPower.conf and change the line at the bottom "IgnoreLid=false" to "IgnoreLid=true". -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/792636 Title: Power section no longer allows configuration of "when the lid is closed" action in Oneiric -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 792636] Re: Power section no longer allows configuration of "when the lid is closed" action in Oneiric
** Changed in: gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided => Medium ** Changed in: gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) Status: New => Confirmed ** Changed in: gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed => Triaged -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/792636 Title: Power section no longer allows configuration of "when the lid is closed" action in Oneiric -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 792636] Re: Power section no longer allows configuration of "when the lid is closed" action in Oneiric
-- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/792636 Title: Power section no longer allows configuration of "when the lid is closed" action in Oneiric -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
