Re: [Bug 191889] Re: [MASTER] [WORKAROUND] Offline Mode feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager.
Thanks. I will print this message and follow the directions. John On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 4:59 AM, David Scott 191...@bugs.launchpad.netwrote: After reading this entire post, and finding nothing useful. The only useful posting was the one about updating (searching for the poster, crashed my FireFox) so I am not sure if this will help anyone. [My System] Ubuntu 10.04.3 (server) - updated to generic-pae - running Xubuntu-Desktop Linux acer 2.6.32-38-generic-pae #83-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jan 4 12:11:13 UTC 2012 i686 GNU/Linux The steps I took to fix the problem Applications-Accessories-Terminal $ sudo su - $ aptitude search network I looked for all that was installed, and what I thought would be needed to maintain the network through apps instead of directly through the /etc/network/interfaces file I found and installed the below apps $ sudo apt-get install network-manager network-config network-manager-gnome gnome-network-admin --reinstall The gui informed me after this install I needed to reboot, so I rebooted. Once I rebooted, the notification icon didn't appear, and FireFox along with other applications did start correctly, (ie NOT in Offline Mode) -- You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/191889 Title: [MASTER] [WORKAROUND] Offline Mode feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/191889/+subscriptions -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/191889 Title: [MASTER] [WORKAROUND] Offline Mode feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/191889/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 191889] Re: [MASTER] [WORKAROUND] Offline Mode feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager.
Thanks for the summary of your efforts. I experience the offline condition for FireFox only during a dialup connection. Using the DSL network connection with a router and DSL adapter Firefox works normally. My dialup connection for Ubuntu 9.04 and 9.10 has been gnome-ppp. On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 8:30 PM, Jim Kyle 191...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote: Update to comment 456: Workaround 2 had no effect either, but inverting the setting of Workaround 1 from false to true did solve the problem on the test system. It no longer comes up in work offline mode. -- [MASTER] [WORKAROUND] Offline Mode feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/191889 You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of the bug. -- [MASTER] [WORKAROUND] Offline Mode feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/191889 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 191889] Re: [MASTER] [WORKAROUND] Offline Mode feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager.
nukedathlonman antistress: this bug specifically refers to problems with firefox (and pidgin and others) not connecting to the internet when Network Manger thinks it is offline. This bug has been solved and fixed. On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 6:10 AM, antistress thibaut.beth...@gmail.comwrote: Concerning my comment #432 i forgot to precise : with a clean install of Lucid -- [MASTER] [WORKAROUND] Offline Mode feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/191889 You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of the bug. -- [MASTER] [WORKAROUND] Offline Mode feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/191889 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 191889] Re: [MASTER] [WORKAROUND] Offline Mode feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager.
No worries On 30 Mar 2010, at 22:30, Sergio Zanchetta prime...@ubuntu.com wrote: I realized I had made a mistake, Intrepid Ibex 8.10 will reach EOL on 30 APRIL 2010. Sorry for this. Anyway, I think that one month doesn't make any difference now. -- [MASTER] [WORKAROUND] Offline Mode feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/191889 You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of the bug. -- [MASTER] [WORKAROUND] Offline Mode feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/191889 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 191889] Re: [MASTER] [WORKAROUND] Offline Mode feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager.
Thanks for the info. My problem with the NetworkManager was different. It would not allow me to call up either of my 2 usb 56k dialup modems (Zoom and US Robotics). The failure only happened under Ubuntu 9.10 as 9.04 worked fine. I needed to remove the software (sudo apt-get remove networkmanager) to get dialup working for me under Karmic Koala. On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 4:47 AM, irishbreakfast v.spagn...@pobox.com wrote: A newbie experience: I just successfully figured out how to establish a connection at boot so others on the home network can access 'stuff'. When I do log in, I am successfully connected to the router although the applet doesn't find any active connections. And syslog has NetworkManager: info Unmanaged Device found; state CONNECTED forced. Cheers -- [MASTER] [WORKAROUND] Offline Mode feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/191889 You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of the bug. -- [MASTER] [WORKAROUND] Offline Mode feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/191889 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 191889] Re: [MASTER] [WORKAROUND] Offline Mode feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager.
Thank you for your reply. John Kohler On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 7:24 PM, Duke duke@gmail.com wrote: ** Changed in: network-manager Assignee: (unassigned) = Duke (ers-duke16) -- [MASTER] [WORKAROUND] Offline Mode feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/191889 You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of the bug. u -- [MASTER] [WORKAROUND] Offline Mode feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/191889 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 191889] Re: [MASTER] [WORKAROUND] Offline Mode feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager.
As I understand, the internet connection is one issue, the browser communicating with the DSL or PPP software is another issue. I have no problem with the browser starting right away on my DSL, but the ppp won't talk to my browser until I go to Firefox file and drag down to uncheck offline. John On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 11:39 PM, Nick Colgan nick.colgan+b...@gmail.comnick.colgan%2bb...@gmail.com wrote: I was also directed to this bug report by the following entry in my syslog: NetworkManager: info Unmanaged Device found; state CONNECTED forced. (see http://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/191889) Although I didn't even have Firefox open at the time. Is this bug report even relevant to this issue? -- [MASTER] [WORKAROUND] Offline Mode feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/191889 You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of the bug. -- [MASTER] [WORKAROUND] Offline Mode feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/191889 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 191889] Re: [MASTER] [WORKAROUND] Offline Mode feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager.
That message is saying that NM is pretending the unmanaged device is online since it can't tell if it is or not to avoid people here seeing Firefox offline. It's perfectly safe to ignore. -- [MASTER] [WORKAROUND] Offline Mode feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/191889 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 191889] Re: [MASTER] [WORKAROUND] Offline Mode feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager.
An easier solution, if your FF3 is updated to current, is to type about:config in a blank tab. Click OK to the scary message. Type tool in the filter line. You will find the below one ending in false. click on the line to change to true. This is not a FF problem but they found a fix for it and it is an easy one for Hardy and Intrepid. toolkit.networkmanager.disable;true Tom aenertia wrote: I have this issue, it appears to be caused by Network manager not being able to cope with previously defined debian interface files. I saw this for the first time when upgrading/installing via net- installer to jaunty. lspci, lshal and nm-tool info attached . my /etc/network/interfaces is just auto eth0 etc defaults as created by deb-installer. Only weird thing about my network is that I run ipv6 along side .( which on a side note the deb-installer does not support) ** Attachment added: lspci, lshal and nm-tool http://launchpadlibrarian.net/22404423/logs.gz -- [MASTER] [WORKAROUND] Offline Mode feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/191889 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 191889] Re: [MASTER] [WORKAROUND] Offline Mode feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager.
Actually this is not a firefox / nm interaction issue at all ( I have seen this one, and know how to work around it). It is purely network-manager failing to correctly manage network devices. It is more an issue of not having populated device entries correctly and then not being able to manage them through the various gui tools. not just a FF issue. 2009/2/10 Tom Pino metalsm...@rangeweb.net An easier solution, if your FF3 is updated to current, is to type about:config in a blank tab. Click OK to the scary message. Type tool in the filter line. You will find the below one ending in false. click on the line to change to true. This is not a FF problem but they found a fix for it and it is an easy one for Hardy and Intrepid. toolkit.networkmanager.disable;true Tom aenertia wrote: I have this issue, it appears to be caused by Network manager not being able to cope with previously defined debian interface files. I saw this for the first time when upgrading/installing via net- installer to jaunty. lspci, lshal and nm-tool info attached . my /etc/network/interfaces is just auto eth0 etc defaults as created by deb-installer. Only weird thing about my network is that I run ipv6 along side .( which on a side note the deb-installer does not support) ** Attachment added: lspci, lshal and nm-tool http://launchpadlibrarian.net/22404423/logs.gz -- [MASTER] [WORKAROUND] Offline Mode feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/191889 You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of the bug. -- [MASTER] [WORKAROUND] Offline Mode feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/191889 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 191889] Re: [MASTER] [WORKAROUND] Offline Mode feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager.
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 03:39:50AM -, drizad wrote: Solution (maybe temporary) with Ubuntu Intrepid 8.10: 1. remove network-manager sudo apt-get remove network manager 2. Install wicd http://www.ubuntugeek.com/wicd-wired-and-wireless-network-manager-for-ubuntu.html This isnt a solution to this bug and please post such instructions outside of the bug tracking system. Forums are a good place to put this - and there are probably plenty of these advices there, so there is no need at all to post this here. Thanks! - Alexander -- [MASTER] [WORKAROUND] Offline Mode feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/191889 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 191889] Re: [MASTER] [WORKAROUND] Offline Mode feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager.
I have this thing called a kiosk with a web-app in the background of the box. It has no network connectivity - it doesn't need to, there is this strange thing on Linux since like 1970 called loopback (for the Firefox developers, this can be found at http://127.0.0.1). I didn't know that linux existed in 1970 also! On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 8:15 PM, Colin Alston co...@thusa.co.za wrote: BRAVO! Firefox is my new nominee for a Darwin award. I have this thing called a kiosk with a web-app in the background of the box. It has no network connectivity - it doesn't need to, there is this strange thing on Linux since like 1970 called loopback (for the Firefox developers, this can be found at http://127.0.0.1). Of course Firefox wants to be in online mode to connect to loopback. Did anyone consider this? Please, just get rid of this insane feature. -- [MASTER] [WORKAROUND] Offline Mode feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/191889 You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of the bug. -- [MASTER] [WORKAROUND] Offline Mode feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/191889 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 191889] Re: [MASTER] [WORKAROUND] Offline Mode feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager.
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 11:57:34PM -, Klaus Thorn wrote: Firefox 3.0.5 starts in offline mode, failing to detect that I am online (with a connection which Opera, ping and apt-get all know to use well). The online connection that is not detected by firefox (nor network manager) is via UMTS, on an Asus EeePc 901GO, using wvdial and pppd. All these programs are part of an Ubuntu 8.04 Desktop wiith kernel 2.6.24-21-eeepc i686. If all programs acted like firefox 3, I woud have had no chance to help myself, because I did not search nor find the offline mode in the file menu. I searched it in the network settings, (just a hint for the usability experts out there). I dont disagree ... only point i can say is that NM doesnt support when you do things outside of NM ... This hopefully will change in future. If we want a solution now, someone needs to find the time to improve our unmanaged == always online patch to also enforce ONLINE if there is any interface up with IP set. - Alexander -- [MASTER] [WORKAROUND] Offline Mode feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/191889 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 191889] Re: [MASTER] [WORKAROUND] Offline Mode feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager.
kelargo wrote: # cat /etc/network/interfaces auto lo eth0 iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.0.99 netmask 255.255.255.0 gateway 192.168.0.1 iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.0.99 netmask 255.255.255.0 network 192.168.0.0 broabcast 192.168.0.255 gateway 192.168.0.10 probably not the cause, but you have a typo in broadcast. -- [MASTER] [WORKAROUND] Offline Mode feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/191889 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 191889] Re: [MASTER] [WORKAROUND] Offline Mode feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager.
Klaus, I filed bug for FF lacking way to defeat off line mode, several months ago. People refused to see that most users might never use or need off line mode. People refused to change FF behavior to avoid users switching to browser with less vexing behavior. Finally they combined my bug with bug blaming other programs for FF being off line. No consideration seemed to be given for default on line behavior as you desired. Why the people in control of FF would want to have the only browser that so discourages users is beyond my understanding. -- God Bless You, Eric Lee Elliott e...@eric-elliott.comhttp://eric-elliott.com 800.827.5038870.613.1398 PMB 6755, 167 Rainbow Drive, Livingston TX 77399-1067 On Tuesday 23 December 2008 17:57:34 Klaus Thorn wrote: Firefox 3.0.5 starts in offline mode, failing to detect that I am online (with a connection which Opera, ping and apt-get all know to use well). The online connection that is not detected by firefox (nor network manager) is via UMTS, on an Asus EeePc 901GO, using wvdial and pppd. All these programs are part of an Ubuntu 8.04 Desktop wiith kernel 2.6.24-21-eeepc i686. If all programs acted like firefox 3, I woud have had no chance to help myself, because I did not search nor find the offline mode in the file menu. I searched it in the network settings, (just a hint for the usability experts out there). This issue is not only technical but political. I think it is an important aspect and I will not search another hour for the correct place for publishing it, this place is good enough: It is obvious and reported here that the crucial user experence with firefox is crushed in many cases by this bug. It is easy to understand that improving the detection of online states will always be inferiour to just try to connect, because the latter depends on less other programs. Those programs, like all software, will have bugs and missing features, which curretly is the case. Neither do I expect Network Manager or Firefox to understand all features of wvdial or pppd nor should firefox rely on Network Manager or dbus. I think it is clear that correctly auto-enabling the offline mode is much less important than being able to use an online connection. Despite all of this, the bug got closed, people are told that they don't write enough information, that the bug is a bug of another program, or that part of their reports have nothing to do with this bug. All of these counter-arguments do not lead to a solution but do defend the problem and the problematic decision to auto-enable offline mode due to messages from dbus, network-manager or whatever. Changing the behaviour of Firefox (back to always start in online mode and just try to connect) isn't difficult in terms of problem-solving or programming. It was there in Firefox 2 I assume, so it is more a decision than a technical problem. Who decides? And who decides whether a technocrat, bureaucrat or service-oriented human is dealing with this problem? Do the ubuntu users have influence here? Or the firefox users? I had enough technocrats and bureaucrats giving answers in politician's style, instead of solving problems in Firefox, Openoffice etc.. So if I am part of the power deciding about Firefox and Ubuntu, just because I use it, spread the word about it and install it on dozens of machines, then I vote for starting firefox in online mode by default and for replacing the persons dealing with this bug. Wether they are paid or altruistic, they should not be able to continue to worsen this fine piece of software. It's like with the lights on my bicycIe: It should not turn off automatically, even if someone from the producers claims that the brightness sensor is the problem. Forget the sensor, just let the lights shine! Installed packages: Installed: firefox3.0.5+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.04.1 Installed: firefox-3.03.0.5+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.04.1 Installed: firefox-3.0-gnome-support 3.0.5+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.04.1 Installed: firefox-gnome-support 3.0.5+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.04.1 ** Attachment added: /etc/network/interfaces http://launchpadlibrarian.net/20699595/interfaces -- [MASTER] [WORKAROUND] Offline Mode feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/191889 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 191889] Re: [MASTER] [WORKAROUND] Offline Mode feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager.
On Wednesday 17 December 2008 21:27:47 kevin_405 wrote: I had to set workaround 1 to true not false Workaround 1: (since ffox 3.0.1) - set toolkit.networkmanager.disable to true in about:config Fresh install of kubuntu 8.10 with all updates has cellular modem connected via kppp, then Firefox starting off line every start. Off line mode options do not prevent or inhibit off line condition. Network Manager is not used or needed but does not help problem with cellular modem as only Internet connection. -- [MASTER] [WORKAROUND] Offline Mode feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/191889 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 191889] Re: [MASTER] [WORKAROUND] Offline Mode feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager.
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 12:25:47PM -, Eric Lee Elliott wrote: On Wednesday 17 December 2008 21:27:47 kevin_405 wrote: I had to set workaround 1 to true not false Workaround 1: (since ffox 3.0.1) - set toolkit.networkmanager.disable to true in about:config Fresh install of kubuntu 8.10 with all updates has cellular modem connected via kppp, then Firefox starting off line every start. Off line mode options do not prevent or inhibit off line condition. Network Manager is not used or needed but does not help problem with cellular modem as only Internet connection. If you dont use networkmanager at all you probably dont need it. Not sure if kde has proper UI for mobile broadband devices, but at least in gnome you can use them directlyin NM (e.g. no need for kppp). - Alexander -- [MASTER] [WORKAROUND] Offline Mode feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/191889 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 191889] Re: [MASTER] [WORKAROUND] Offline Mode feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager.
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 11:28:50AM -, mbeccaria wrote: I am experiencing that the network-manager is reporting my wired connection as disconnected and not managed, whenever the wired connection is changed through the old network-admin tool. Yes, in intrepid (0.7) this shouldnt make a difference. for 0.6 we need to integrate the patch that was posted (here?). - Alexander -- [MASTER] [WORKAROUND] Offline Mode feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/191889 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 191889] Re: [MASTER] [WORKAROUND] Offline Mode feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager.
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 03:51:19PM -, chewearn wrote: Additional info: Evolution is working. It started in online mode and able to send/receive mails. Pidgin in not working. It get stuck trying to connect. please do a restart of your system, reproduce and attach the complete syslog. also attach your /etc/network/interfaces - Alexander -- [MASTER] [WORKAROUND] Offline Mode feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/191889 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 191889] Re: [MASTER] [WORKAROUND] Offline Mode feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager.
Logging out didn't help. I tried reinstalling network-manager and network-manager-gnome, it prompted me to restart, which I did, and still nothing. I went to my Sessions Preferences and the Network Manager Applet was listed there with a command nm-applet --sm-disable I checked my System Monitor Processes and nm-applet appears to be running, but just to try I killed it and ran sudo nm-applet --sm-disable. Still nothing. I thought that network manager was different than nm-applet actually, but I wasn't sure. If that's the case, I don't know how to start network manager. I checked Services and Session Preferences and didn't find anything helpful in either (besides the Network Manager Applet I mentioned). I also find it weird that I can't access it via System - Administration anymore... Any thoughts? I can provide debugging if you let me know what you need (and how to get it). On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 7:20 PM, Alexander Sack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: jonathan, nm manager should be in the tray. maybe relogin. if that doesnt work, please ensure that NetworkManager process is running. However, if you have configurations in /etc/network/interfaces and you want NM to manage them you have to turn on managed=true in /etc/NetworkManager/nm-system-settings.conf. This is an experimental mode in intrepid though. -- [MASTER] [WORKAROUND] Offline Mode feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/191889 You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of the bug. Status in The Mozilla Firefox Browser: Fix Released Status in NetworkManager: Confirmed Status in USB ADSL Modem Manager for Gnome, written in Python: New Status in empathy source package in Ubuntu: New Status in evolution source package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in firefox-3.0 source package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in network-manager source package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in pidgin source package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in empathy in Ubuntu Hardy: New Status in evolution in Ubuntu Hardy: Invalid Status in firefox-3.0 in Ubuntu Hardy: Invalid Status in network-manager in Ubuntu Hardy: Triaged Status in pidgin in Ubuntu Hardy: Confirmed Status in empathy in Ubuntu Intrepid: New Status in evolution in Ubuntu Intrepid: Invalid Status in firefox-3.0 in Ubuntu Intrepid: Invalid Status in network-manager in Ubuntu Intrepid: Fix Released Status in pidgin in Ubuntu Intrepid: Confirmed Status in firefox-3.0 source package in Baltix: New Bug description: Binary package hint: firefox-3.0 DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu DISTRIB_RELEASE=8.04 DISTRIB_CODENAME=hardy DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION=Ubuntu hardy (development branch) Firefox 3.0b3 When I start firefox from the panel it always start in offline mode. I am connected via wireless to a network that is always on. When I want to browse I need to unclick work offline Workaround 1: (since ffox 3.0.1) - set toolkit.networkmanager.disable to false in about:config Workaround 2: (make NM to be always online) - add a non existing interface to /etc/network/interfaces, like: iface eth1000 inet dhcp -- [MASTER] [WORKAROUND] Offline Mode feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/191889 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 191889] Re: [MASTER] [WORKAROUND] Offline Mode feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager.
if you have it, sudo /etc/init.d/NetworkManager start On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 03:02:25AM -, Jonathan wrote: I just noticed that you said there should be a process called NetworkManager. That process is not running and I don't know how to start it. I tried sudo NetworkManager but it doesn't appear to do anything. -- [MASTER] [WORKAROUND] Offline Mode feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/191889 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 191889] Re: [MASTER] [WORKAROUND] Offline Mode feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager.
I just upgraded to Intrepid and NM 0.7 works wonderfully for me. It automatically detects my Bluetooth Pan (no more hacking around to set it up! :-D ) and everything starts online as it should. Only problem is it is not detected as a Mobile Broadband connection, but who cares as long as I get proper results (i.e. - I'm recognised as online)? IMO, Network Manager 0.7 needs to be backported to Hardy by the 8.04.2 release, if not sooner. -- [MASTER] [WORKAROUND] Offline Mode feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/191889 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 191889] Re: [MASTER] [WORKAROUND] Offline Mode feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager.
On Monday 06 October 2008 16:57:29 Shellster wrote: I found an easy solution to the problem. Just remove the network manager package and the associated gnome package. Then your network setting will rely solely on /etc/network/interfaces like that ought to. I found an easy solution, revert to Firefox 2. -- [MASTER] [WORKAROUND] Offline Mode feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/191889 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 191889] Re: [MASTER] [WORKAROUND] Offline Mode feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager.
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 12:09:08PM -, Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote: I'm also using a CDMA connection using PPP and Firefox always starts in offline mode. This is extremely annoying, but not really a big problem. However, this also means that no Prism-applications work at all, because it also starts in offline mode, and doesn't have a way to switch. we have builds for NM 0.7 in ~network-manager PPA you could try that to connect to CDMA. if you try, please report your findings like outlined here: http://www.asoftsite.org/s9y/archives/149-Network-Manager-0.7-bug-reporting-+-3G-hardware-testing.html - Alexander -- [MASTER] [WORKAROUND] Offline Mode feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/191889 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 191889] Re: [MASTER] [WORKAROUND] Offline Mode feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager.
cubbie wrote: I have Linux Mint Elyssa which is based on Ubuntu Hardy. I use dial-up modem with serial to usb connector. There wasn't a way for me to create a connection via Network Administration ToolNetwork Settings as there is no ttyUSB0 choice (there is in KPPP) so I use wvdial to connect to the internet. That means I'm not always connected. Hello, there are some of us that still use dial-up. Firefox 3 gives me the same offline mode problem. I fixed it by purging network-manager, which also purged network-manager-gnome. Now Firefox 3 starts up as it used to in previous versions without any problems. I decided to remove network-manager as it states in the description for this utility NetworkManager attempts to keep an active network connection available at all times. Well, that may be all well for cable and wireless connections, but not for dial-up. I also didn't like to see it in my panel with the little red x, as it never found a connection for when I would use dial up. So, it's partly a problem with NM as well. Doesnt linux mint have their own bug tracker? -- Sincerely Yours, John Vivirito https://launchpad.net/~gnomefreak https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JohnVivirito Linux User# 414246 -- [MASTER] [WORKAROUND] Offline Mode feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/191889 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 191889] Re: [MASTER] [WORKAROUND] Offline Mode feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager.
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 11:41:51AM -, forza wrote: Thats it for me. I've had enough of firefox and I am looking for a better browser without this bug. These kind of statements dont make a difference and dont contribute anything here. Please keep them out of bugs. - Alexander -- [MASTER] [WORKAROUND] Offline Mode feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/191889 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 191889] Re: [MASTER] [WORKAROUND] Offline Mode feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager.
On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 07:07:11PM -, launcspad wrote: Alexander: the second workaround did not work. The first (about: config) I don't know how. Please tell me more details! (Step-by-step.) Thanks! Please post your /etc/network/interfaces file for the (not-working) 2nd-workaround attempt. for 1 you go to about:config (in firefox location bar); and use the right mouse button somewhere in the config table you will see to say New - Boolean. Then you use the preference name i said and say true. For that to work you need to be sure to use firefix 3.0.1. you can check the version by running dpkg -l firefox-3.0 on a terminal or in firefox in Help - About. - Alexander -- [MASTER] [WORKAROUND] Offline Mode feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/191889 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 191889] Re: [MASTER] [WORKAROUND] Offline Mode feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager.
On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 4:46 AM, wpshooter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have my sister waiting for a computer that I have told her that I would configure for her use on a dialup ISP basis (she has no access to broadband) and now I can not get the thing to work. This is sort of embarrassing !!! Just use my temporary Firefox solution until they get the update into Ubuntu... http://www.kristian-hermansen.com/code/disable.offline.mode/disable.offline.mode.html -- Kristian Erik Hermansen -- CISSP, CEPT, CREA, CEH, Linux+, A+, QGCS, ACSA, this is getting ridiculous... http://kristian-hermansen.com -- [MASTER] [WORKAROUND] Offline Mode feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/191889 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs