Re: [Bug 22930] Re: Newly-sensitive button ignores clicks until cursor re-enters it
i certainly have this bug on gutsy 64 bit. On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 5:49 PM, Saïvann Carignan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just discovered that this bug does not exist for ubuntu 64 bit. I can still reproduce it in up-to-date Gutsy/Hardy i386 but not with a up-to- date Hardy amd64, can someone confirm this? -- Newly-sensitive button ignores clicks until cursor re-enters it https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/22930 You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of a duplicate bug. -- Newly-sensitive button ignores clicks until cursor re-enters it https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/22930 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 22930] Re: Newly-sensitive button ignores clicks until cursor re-enters it
gotcha, so i can't tell, is it getting fixed? On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 5:26 PM, Saïvann Carignan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found it, that was just because my computer now uses compiz. The bug does not appear with compiz, only metacity. -- Newly-sensitive button ignores clicks until cursor re-enters it https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/22930 You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of a duplicate bug. -- Newly-sensitive button ignores clicks until cursor re-enters it https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/22930 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 22930] Re: Newly-sensitive button ignores clicks until cursor re-enters it
This bug is VERY trivial I happened to be using monodevelop so heres
some mono code with 2 buttons, 1 with the bug and 1 using the work
round
(I have used this workround in c++ before)
protected virtual void OnGoButtonClicked (object sender,
System.EventArgs e)
{
woButton.Sensitive=false;
wButton.Sensitive=false;
}
click the go button
move the cursor over one of the 2 test buttons
hit the tab key and the go button looses the focus which re-enables the
buttons one with the work round
protected virtual void OnGoButtonFocusOutEvent (object o,
Gtk.FocusOutEventArgs args)
{
woButton.Sensitive=true;
wButton.Sensitive=true;
wButton.Hide();
wButton.Show();
}
The wButton shows the correct behaviour. afaik because is all a single
thread the button is never cleared and redrawn, but this hide/show is
enough to make it properly sensitive when the mouse cursor is over it
*** At the very least this should be implemented it synaptic and the
installer ***
I believe that with a simple bit of code in gtk set sensitive that
respects the visible status of the button, this issue would be fixed, I
am not even slightly convinced that this would have far reaching
consequences of a negative nature
At the very least sending a patch upstream would probably prompt what
they would feel the correct way of fixing it...
Given the very long history of this problem something like will have to
happen before a proper fix happens
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Re: [Bug 22930] Re: Newly-sensitive button ignores clicks until cursor re-enters it
why not apply the workround in the installer or synaptic ? I did look at some of the upstream reports a little while ago, but I dont remember being convinced that there was any reason why a hack couldnt be tacked onto the end of the gtk set sensitive code, providing it respected the visibility status Have you tried any experiments for yourself? ___ Want ideas for reducing your carbon footprint? Visit Yahoo! For Good http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/environment.html -- Newly-sensitive button ignores clicks until cursor re-enters it https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/22930 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 22930] Re: Newly-sensitive button ignores clicks until cursor re-enters it
While I am new to Ubuntu, I have over a decade of professional experience in IT projects and I am so shocked that someone with an Ubuntu email address would actually make the statement that Sebastien has made I feel compelled to respond with my own points. The importance of producing robust, stable, easy to use software in IT projects is fundamental. Ubuntu talks about the myth that it is only a desktop OS - well, what person in their right mind is going to install a distro with the approach that bugs are ok, we'll wait for LTS. Or even someone wanting to use the distro on a business workstation. I respect your right to present your views Sebastien but I also have a right to explain why I fundementally disagree. Canonical should wisen up and understand the millions of complaints MS receives about bugs in their software and the attitude of the general population about wanting reliable software that just works. How can anyone honestly expect Ubuntu to threaten MS's dominant position when the releases get out the door into production when they shouldnt and too many cowboys are contributing to the project who charge ahead and give a lack of manpower the reason for not sorting out the quality? Its so incredibly reckless and frivilous. Some of the bugs are downright dangerous too. Like the GUI bugs with user and group management - how any software could have been released with that issue confounds me when I see so many talented people helping on this project. Gutsy is not looking any better - in fact many of the new features have presented me with new bugs in the many tests Ive done and the release date for that looms ever closer. Gutsy is unusable for the LiveCD and I have continue to have numerous bugs making the alternate install painful. New features should indeed be stopped and the build brought back to basics in a major bug fix - forget about a bug day and bug hugs, Ubuntu needs a bug fix release. Otherwise Canonical is going to continue to frustrate users coming over from Windows with silly bugs like the one in this thread, companies wont be using it due to serious bugs like the problems with GUI user/group management and the rest of the Linux community will increasingly regard Ubuntu as a distro for cowboys that moves too quickly and doesnt bother with due diligence in quality assurance. -- Newly-sensitive button ignores clicks until cursor re-enters it https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/22930 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 22930] Re: Newly-sensitive button ignores clicks until cursor re-enters it
I noticed this bug over five years ago in Winbloze !!! reporting this upstream will have little result theres a workround I think submitting a patch upstream that hides then shows a button when it becomes enabled, might embarrass the people upstream to actually fix the problem. especially if it comes from an official Ubuntu source (at the very least we'll have a package manager (and other apps) that work properly!) and btw if new features are more important than bug fixing then that makes bug #1 look like spin (sadly) There's a distro called Vista that has tonnes of new bu... errm features ___ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/ -- Newly-sensitive button ignores clicks until cursor re-enters it https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/22930 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 22930] Re: Newly-sensitive button ignores clicks until cursor re-enters it
sure, there is a balance. and there are more important bugs to fix. thats why this one has been open for 5+ years. still, i believe that maybe theres a better way to do it? this bug can easily be fixed in 15 minutes by the person who wrote this code in the first place. is that who would normally fix it? can't we just track him down or something? maybe thats a way to move the bugs along a bit better, to have people fix their own code? that way, maybe we won't just be skimming off the top of the priority list all the time? On 10/9/07, ChrisC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I noticed this bug over five years ago in Winbloze !!! reporting this upstream will have little result theres a workround I think submitting a patch upstream that hides then shows a button when it becomes enabled, might embarrass the people upstream to actually fix the problem. especially if it comes from an official Ubuntu source (at the very least we'll have a package manager (and other apps) that work properly!) and btw if new features are more important than bug fixing then that makes bug #1 look like spin (sadly) There's a distro called Vista that has tonnes of new bu... errm features ___ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/ -- Newly-sensitive button ignores clicks until cursor re-enters it https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/22930 You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of a duplicate bug. -- Newly-sensitive button ignores clicks until cursor re-enters it https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/22930 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 22930] Re: Newly-sensitive button ignores clicks until cursor re-enters it
Then use the manpower that's introducing new features! Bug fixes are far more important that new features ___ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/ -- Newly-sensitive button ignores clicks until cursor re-enters it https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/22930 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 22930] Re: Newly-sensitive button ignores clicks until cursor re-enters it
I first noticed this also around 2001 ish, but in windows!! (is this the first cross platform bug?!) as nothing has been done in *over* 5 years, I think some kind of patch would be rather nice... nullack wrote: Looks as though this bug has been around since 2001. Sadly it retains an upstream priority of normal which ignores the very serious impact it has on Ubuntu first impressions and greatly highlights one of the problems with FOSS. Given what has been a very poor track record on this bug why doesnt Canonical do a workaround for this bug so the installer atleast is not effected. I noticed the following in the upstream bug discussion: For what it's worth, developers can work around this bug by simply hiding/showing the button after they make the button sensitive again. This will too fast for the user to see, and it will allow them to click the button without moving their mouse from the button. -- Newly-sensitive button ignores clicks until cursor re-enters it https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/22930 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 22930] Re: Newly-sensitive button ignores clicks until cursor re-enters it
guys, i filed this bug in the summer of 2005! i've been getting an email or 2 a week about it ever since someone fix it already! thanks :-) On 7/9/07, Ross Peoples [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While guiding a new Ubuntu user (coming from Windows) through the Install process, this was very annoying. Once he clicked the button, he thought it was working so he left it alone until he realized the button didn't actually get clicked. I told him it was a bug and that he needed to move the mouse outside the button and try clicking it again for every step of the install process. The first thing out of his mouth was, I don't have to do that with Windows. So as trivial as it may seem, this bug affects the usability of the user interface as a whole. Not to mention the fact that the stability of the system comes into question before it even gets installed. -- Newly-sensitive button ignores clicks until cursor re-enters it https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/22930 You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of a duplicate bug. -- Newly-sensitive button ignores clicks until cursor re-enters it https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/22930 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 22930] Re: Newly-sensitive button ignores clicks until cursor re-enters it
i wasnt the first one to file it. so that makes it at least 2 years old. i'm using the latest version of synaptic and its still not fixed. On 7/9/07, Mertiki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This bug is 2 years old ? Do you mean that there's already a fix for this bug ? -- Newly-sensitive button ignores clicks until cursor re-enters it https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/22930 You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of a duplicate bug. -- Newly-sensitive button ignores clicks until cursor re-enters it https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/22930 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 22930] Re: Newly-sensitive button ignores clicks until cursor re-enters it
I notice that the Kubuntu Feisty Fawn installation does not suffer from the same bug. They have it working properly. -ray -- Newly-sensitive button ignores clicks until cursor re-enters it https://launchpad.net/bugs/22930 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
