Re: Important changes to gnome-doc-utils

2006-11-10 Thread Luca Ferretti
Il giorno gio, 09/11/2006 alle 18.20 +0100, Luca Ferretti ha scritto:
 Il giorno gio, 09/11/2006 alle 10.27 -0600, Shaun McCance ha scritto:
  On Wed, 2006-11-08 at 17:27 -0600, Shaun McCance wrote:
   
   I just committed some changes to the XSLT that generates
   OMF files for your DocBook documentation.  There are two
   very important things that maintainers need to know about:
   
 
  db2omf: Description of problem
  
  If you see an error message starting with db2omf:,
  then it's a result of this change.  Otherwise, it's
  somebody else's fault.  (But obviously, we'll still
  help with any documentation-related build problems.)
 
 I'm rebuilding my jhbuild sandbox, so I'll file a bug every fault.
 
 In the list of bad guys, by now I have gnome-desktop [1] and
 gnome-control-center[2]

Add Totem http://bugs.gnome.org/373313



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Re: Important changes to gnome-doc-utils

2006-11-10 Thread Wouter Bolsterlee
2006-11-10 klockan 02:21 skrev Frederic Peters:
  I'm rebuilding my jhbuild sandbox, so I'll file a bug every fault.
  
  In the list of bad guys, by now I have gnome-desktop [1] and
  gnome-control-center[2]
 
 There is also at least gnome-applets[1], gnome-netstatus[2],
 gcalctool[3], gnome-system-tools[4] and evince[5].
 
 I'll get some sleep and I'll file bug reports if things are not fixed by
 then.

Thanks, I think I fixed the Evince build. Please let me know if you
encounter any problems.

  mvrgr, Wouter

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Re: gnome-power-manager and battstat-applet

2006-11-10 Thread Diego Escalante
On 11/9/06, Richard Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In 2-15 we discussed including *both* gnome-power-manager and
 battstat-applet in the release but I don't think we came to any hard
 decisions.

 Now, with the greater integration of gnome-power-manager into other
 desktop components, my opinion is we should drop battstat-applet from
 the release. I think it's done a great job for many years, but I think
 most (all?) distros are shipping g-p-m by default now (rather than the
 applet) and having the applet as an option is superfluous.

 So, has anybody got any good reasons (or use-cases) for not doing so? I
 think it's safe to assume that anybody using gnome 2.17.x uses HAL[1].

 Thanks,

 Richard.

 [1] As a related note, solaris has just had a hal backend merged (thanks
 to Artem Kachitchkine), and freebsd is *really* close to getting a
 backend merged (thanks to Joe Marcus Clarke).


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The battery icon of g-p-m always gives me a bad impression of how much
battery is left. This is a silly thing, I know. But when using the
battery applet I always know how much battery I have just with a quick
look.
My theory is that the elaborated battery icon of g-p-m is not as
fastly-readable as the black rectangle that fills with magical green
fluid of battery applet.
No matter the g-p-m icons look cool, they are not that informative in
a quick look, IMHO.

Ah, and now that I remember. The ability to place the % or time left
in the applet makes battery applet even more informative without
having to hover it to read the tooltip.

I would like to see either the battery applet and g-p-m coexisting or
g-p-m providing an applet equally informative as the battery applet,
but of course with all the g-p-m magic.

Greetings!

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Re: Important changes to gnome-doc-utils

2006-11-10 Thread Luca Ferretti
Il giorno gio, 09/11/2006 alle 18.20 +0100, Luca Ferretti ha scritto:
 Il giorno gio, 09/11/2006 alle 10.27 -0600, Shaun McCance ha scritto:
  On Wed, 2006-11-08 at 17:27 -0600, Shaun McCance wrote:
   
   I just committed some changes to the XSLT that generates
   OMF files for your DocBook documentation.  There are two
   very important things that maintainers need to know about:
   
 

Add gedit: http://bugs.gnome.org/373323

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Re: Important changes to gnome-doc-utils

2006-11-10 Thread Luca Ferretti
Il giorno gio, 09/11/2006 alle 18.20 +0100, Luca Ferretti ha scritto:
 Il giorno gio, 09/11/2006 alle 10.27 -0600, Shaun McCance ha scritto:
  On Wed, 2006-11-08 at 17:27 -0600, Shaun McCance wrote:
   
   I just committed some changes to the XSLT that generates
   OMF files for your DocBook documentation.  There are two
   very important things that maintainers need to know about:
   
 

Add eog: http:/bugs.gnome.org/373325





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Re: gnome-power-manager and battstat-applet

2006-11-10 Thread Davyd Madeley
On Fri, 2006-11-10 at 10:35 +0100, Diego Escalante wrote:

 I would like to see either the battery applet and g-p-m coexisting or
 g-p-m providing an applet equally informative as the battery applet,
 but of course with all the g-p-m magic.

What magic are you missing? The graphs?

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Re: Important changes to gnome-doc-utils

2006-11-10 Thread Luca Ferretti
Il giorno gio, 09/11/2006 alle 18.20 +0100, Luca Ferretti ha scritto:
 Il giorno gio, 09/11/2006 alle 10.27 -0600, Shaun McCance ha scritto:
  On Wed, 2006-11-08 at 17:27 -0600, Shaun McCance wrote:
   
   I just committed some changes to the XSLT that generates
   OMF files for your DocBook documentation.  There are two
   very important things that maintainers need to know about:
   
 
  

Add zenity: http://bugs.gnome.org/373332

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Re: gnome-power-manager and battstat-applet

2006-11-10 Thread Richard Hughes
On Fri, 2006-11-10 at 18:13 +0800, Davyd Madeley wrote:
 On Fri, 2006-11-10 at 10:35 +0100, Diego Escalante wrote:
 
  I would like to see either the battery applet and g-p-m coexisting or
  g-p-m providing an applet equally informative as the battery applet,
  but of course with all the g-p-m magic.
 
 What magic are you missing? The graphs?

* Processor frequency scaling?
* Laptop panel auto-dimming?
* Setting low power mode (laptopmode) using HAL?
* Auto-suspend when idle?
* DPMS control?
* Configurable buttons?
* DBUS interface for other applications to use
* Inhibit and UnInhibit methods

g-p-m will not use the existing applet API. The new API by Ryan Lortie
looks really good and when it hits HEAD I'll experiment and see how easy
it would be to make a movable icon with text next to it in the existing
codebase. There's already a bug open.

Richard.


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Re: Important changes to gnome-doc-utils

2006-11-10 Thread Carlos Garnacho
Hi!,

On Fri, 2006-11-10 at 02:21 +0100, Frederic Peters wrote:
 Luca Ferretti wrote:
 
  I'm rebuilding my jhbuild sandbox, so I'll file a bug every fault.
  
  In the list of bad guys, by now I have gnome-desktop [1] and
  gnome-control-center[2]
 
 There is also at least gnome-applets[1], gnome-netstatus[2],
 gcalctool[3], gnome-system-tools[4] and evince[5].

gnome-system-tools has just been fixed

Regards

 
 I'll get some sleep and I'll file bug reports if things are not fixed by
 then.
 
 
 Frederic
 
 
 [1] http://jhbuild.bxlug.be/builds/2006-11-09-0004/logs/gnome-applets/#build
 [2] http://jhbuild.bxlug.be/builds/2006-11-09-0004/logs/gnome-netstatus/#build
 [3] http://jhbuild.bxlug.be/builds/2006-11-09-0004/logs/gcalctool/#build
 [4] 
 http://jhbuild.bxlug.be/builds/2006-11-09-0004/logs/gnome-system-tools/#build
 [5] http://jhbuild.bxlug.be/builds/2006-11-09-0004/logs/evince/#build
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Re: gnome-power-manager and battstat-applet

2006-11-10 Thread Davyd Madeley
On Fri, 2006-11-10 at 10:52 +, Richard Hughes wrote:
 
  What magic are you missing? The graphs?
 
 * Processor frequency scaling?
 * Laptop panel auto-dimming?
 * Setting low power mode (laptopmode) using HAL?
 * Auto-suspend when idle?
 * DPMS control?
 * Configurable buttons?
 * DBUS interface for other applications to use
 * Inhibit and UnInhibit methods

How are all of these required in a monitoring applet? These should all
be handled by the daemon. It's quite possible to run the daemon
(silently) and the applet together.

 g-p-m will not use the existing applet API. The new API by Ryan Lortie
 looks really good and when it hits HEAD I'll experiment and see how easy
 it would be to make a movable icon with text next to it in the existing
 codebase. There's already a bug open.

No, I would not recommend writing an applet for something like g-p-m on
top of this API. I'm not sure how far along Ryan is with the new API,
I'm hoping to do some experimentation and port some code over the
Australian summer.

To my mind, it makes sense to keep the display component as a standalone
process that can be started by gnome-power-manager. There is little
point in dropping all of that compatibility code, even if everyone now
has HAL.

If gnome-power-manager broke the display components of the daemon from
the management components, then it would also become possible to write
arbitrary views on top of the daemon, be it for an applet, a
notification icon, a gdesklet, some kind of Hildon widget or whatever.
This was always an abstraction I envisioned, allowing g-p-m to be
portable in the same way that NetworkManager is.

--d

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Jhbuild and Mono

2006-11-10 Thread Luca Ferretti
If you have any interest to build some GNOME C# applications in your
jhbuild sandbox, please take a look at http://bugs.gnome.org/324056

Here is (comment #6) a .modules file that will help you to build Mono
(1.2 !) from sources and some interesting GNOME apps from cvs (tomboy,
beagle, f-spot, banshee[1]).


Cheers, Luca

[1] Note that the dependencies list for banshee is missing, so by now
you can't build it. I've to add libipoddevice to jhbuild modulesets
before.

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Re: gnome-power-manager and battstat-applet

2006-11-10 Thread Tomasz Torcz
On Fri, Nov 10, 2006 at 10:35:18AM +0100, Diego Escalante wrote:
 On 11/9/06, Richard Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  In 2-15 we discussed including *both* gnome-power-manager and
  battstat-applet in the release but I don't think we came to any hard
  decisions.
 
  So, has anybody got any good reasons (or use-cases) for not doing so? I
  think it's safe to assume that anybody using gnome 2.17.x uses HAL[1].
 
 The battery icon of g-p-m always gives me a bad impression of how much
 battery is left. This is a silly thing, I know. But when using the
 battery applet I always know how much battery I have just with a quick
 look.

  Yes, the battery icon is bad. Ubuntu 6.10 theme (Human?) has much
more usable (but not tangoish) icon.

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