Boxes and 3.4

2011-11-29 Thread Zeeshan Ali (Khattak)
Hi everyone,
   As most of you know, we proposed Boxes for 3.4 and from what I can
tell, there were no big objections in the end. There was then the
question of us actually delivering in time. As seen on planet GNOME
not long after that, we delivered the first release which was included
in 3.3.2. There is still a long way ahead to make Boxes the awesome
app that we all would like it to be but to ensure that Boxes is in
good enough shape for 3.4 inclusion in time, we would like to know a
few things:

* which features exactly are must?
* is the plan to keep vinagre in 3.4 alongside boxes?
* is Boxes going to be a 'preview' feature in 3.4 like Documents was in 3.2?

 Release team? everyone?

-- 
Regards,

Zeeshan Ali (Khattak)
FSF member#5124
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Re: Boxes and 3.4

2011-11-29 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 5:37 PM, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak)
zeesha...@gnome.org wrote:
 Hi everyone,
   As most of you know, we proposed Boxes for 3.4 and from what I can
 tell, there were no big objections in the end. There was then the
 question of us actually delivering in time. As seen on planet GNOME
 not long after that, we delivered the first release which was included
 in 3.3.2. There is still a long way ahead to make Boxes the awesome
 app that we all would like it to be but to ensure that Boxes is in
 good enough shape for 3.4 inclusion in time, we would like to know a
 few things:

 * which features exactly are must?
 * is the plan to keep vinagre in 3.4 alongside boxes?
 * is Boxes going to be a 'preview' feature in 3.4 like Documents was in 3.2?

First of all, congratulations on getting a respectable first release out !

I don't think vinagre is going away anytime soon (if ever), so
focussing on the vm aspects in boxes for 3.4 over the remote
connection parts might be a smart choice. I don't know if adding a
'preview' qualifier to the feature really adds much clarity. Our 3.4
announcement should clearly document what boxes has to offer then, and
what's still in planning/development. That will hopefully carry the
message that boxes is a promising, new app and not fully grown yet.

It would be a great goal to be able to run gnome 3.4 images inside
boxes in gnome 3.4.


Matthias
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Re: Boxes and 3.4

2011-11-29 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mercredi 30 novembre 2011, à 00:37 +0200, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) a écrit :
 Hi everyone,
As most of you know, we proposed Boxes for 3.4 and from what I can
 tell, there were no big objections in the end. There was then the
 question of us actually delivering in time. As seen on planet GNOME
 not long after that, we delivered the first release which was included
 in 3.3.2. There is still a long way ahead to make Boxes the awesome
 app that we all would like it to be but to ensure that Boxes is in
 good enough shape for 3.4 inclusion in time, we would like to know a
 few things:
 
 * which features exactly are must?
 * is the plan to keep vinagre in 3.4 alongside boxes?
 * is Boxes going to be a 'preview' feature in 3.4 like Documents was in 3.2?
 
  Release team? everyone?

I'm sorry, but I still have the same objection :-) And talking to a few
people, I understood that I'm not alone in feeling that Boxes might not
fit core GNOME (even as a core app [1]).

Note that this shouldn't actually block any work on Boxes, as it does
look like a great application.

Vincent

[1] http://live.gnome.org/Design/Apps -- just to give an example: I feel
that a backup tool makes more sense than boxes as a core app, imho. And
the wiki says that such a tool is very likely not a core app but would
make a great regular app.

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