Re: Cangjie and Quick input method missing in Live CD

2012-10-08 Thread Parag Nemade

Hi,
On 08/10/12 10:09, Shu Hung (Koala) wrote:

Hi all,

I've just tried the Gnome 3.6 Live CD (downloaded today):
http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/misc/promo-usb/GNOME-3.6.0.iso

In System Settings  Region  Language  Input Sources,
Cangjie (/ibus/-table-/cangjie/) and Quick (/ibus/-table-/quick/) are 
not in the list of choose of input methods.


These 2 input methods are the most popular for Chinese (Hong Kong) users.
Would you please add them to the Live CD?

I think those ibus engines can be enabled/seen by executing following 
command

 gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.input-sources show-all-sources true
Then in the Input Sources list, you can see all the available layouts 
for Chinese.


Regards,
Parag.

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Use of accelerators (mnemonics) in app menus

2012-10-08 Thread Alexandre Franke
Hi,

With the GMenu transition happening during the 3.5 cycle, we have seen
many applications remove their accelerators (that _ characters that
allows you to select a menu item using the alt key) from the menu
items that were moved to the app menu (the menu you get when clicking
the application name in the top bar in GNOME Shell). The reason behind
such removals seems to be that GNOME Shell doesn't display nor enable
accelerators in the app menu.

However, in other environments, the app menu is consolidated and
displayed in the menu bar of the window as the first item. In this
context, the accelerators could be very useful and losing them should
be considered a regression.

Is there a technical reason that pushes removal of the accelerators,
such as a bad GNOME Shell behaviour when they are present? Will GNOME
Shell use accelerators in app menus someday? That may be seen as an
accessibility feature. Is there by the way a keyboard shortcut to open
the app menu?

What's even more confusing to us is that while some modules got rid of
these accelerators, some others did not. We thus think that there's no
technical barrier to have them and we'd like to have some consistency.
Can we push module maintainers to have accelerators in their app menu?

Regards.

-- 
Alexandre Franke
On behalf of the i18n team
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Re: Cangjie and Quick input method missing in Live CD

2012-10-08 Thread Shu Hung (Koala)
Hi,


On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 4:44 PM, Parag Nemade pnem...@redhat.com wrote:

  Hi,

 On 08/10/12 10:09, Shu Hung (Koala) wrote:

 Hi all,

 I've just tried the Gnome 3.6 Live CD (downloaded today):
 http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/misc/promo-usb/GNOME-3.6.0.iso

 In System Settings  Region  Language  Input Sources,
 Cangjie (*ibus*-table-*cangjie*) and Quick (*ibus*-table-*quick*) are not
 in the list of choose of input methods.

 These 2 input methods are the most popular for Chinese (Hong Kong) users.
 Would you please add them to the Live CD?

  I think those ibus engines can be enabled/seen by executing following
 command
  gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.input-sources show-all-sources true
 Then in the Input Sources list, you can see all the available layouts for
 Chinese.

 Regards,
 Parag.


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Just tried. Many more input methods did shown up.
But no, the 2 input methods I mentioned were not there.
I think they should be named like these:

   - Chinese (Cangjie)
   - Chinese (Quick)

Please support these 2 in the live CD. Thanks.


Koala Yeung
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Re: Cangjie and Quick input method missing in Live CD

2012-10-08 Thread Ma Xiaojun
rpm -qa | grep ibus
No ibus-table related packages included.
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Re: Cangjie and Quick input method missing in Live CD

2012-10-08 Thread Ray Strode
Hi,

On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 12:39 AM, Shu Hung (Koala) koa...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've just tried the Gnome 3.6 Live CD (downloaded today):
 http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/misc/promo-usb/GNOME-3.6.0.iso

 In System Settings  Region  Language  Input Sources,
 Cangjie (ibus-table-cangjie) and Quick (ibus-table-quick) are not in the
 list of choose of input methods.

 These 2 input methods are the most popular for Chinese (Hong Kong) users.
 Would you please add them to the Live CD?
I've pushed a new iso if you want to give it a try:

753c99ce2342f65865c1f74bc3722e44  GNOME-3.6.0.iso

It may take a while for the mirrors to sync.

--Ray
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Re: Cangjie and Quick input method missing in Live CD

2012-10-08 Thread Ma Xiaojun
On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Ray Strode halfl...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've pushed a new iso if you want to give it a try:

 753c99ce2342f65865c1f74bc3722e44  GNOME-3.6.0.iso
Thanks.

I've tried it. Two issues.
1. The notorious Chinese mode bug described here still exists:
http://code.google.com/p/ibus/issues/detail?id=1188
It's not GNOME's but Fedora's fault though, I've commented here:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=855250#c14

2. It seems like Input Sources tab only offers a subset of tables.
I can see cangjie(3|5), quick(3|5) inside Input Sources tab.
However, there are also cangjie-big.db and quick-classic.db in
/usr/share/ibus-table/tables

I do agree that offer three flavors of cangjie/quick may confuse the users.
However, ibus-table-chinese offers much more tables than cangjie(3|5)
and quick(3|5).
https://github.com/kaio/ibus-table-chinese/
Some tables are not that popular, but may be very essential for some
users used to it.
I hope someone working on gnome-control-center can explain her idea of
this issue.
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Re: Cangjie and Quick input method missing in Live CD

2012-10-08 Thread Parag Nemade

Hi Ray,
On 09/10/12 02:03, Ray Strode wrote:

Hi,

On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 12:39 AM, Shu Hung (Koala) koa...@gmail.com wrote:

I've just tried the Gnome 3.6 Live CD (downloaded today):
http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/misc/promo-usb/GNOME-3.6.0.iso

In System Settings  Region  Language  Input Sources,
Cangjie (ibus-table-cangjie) and Quick (ibus-table-quick) are not in the
list of choose of input methods.

These 2 input methods are the most popular for Chinese (Hong Kong) users.
Would you please add them to the Live CD?

I've pushed a new iso if you want to give it a try:

753c99ce2342f65865c1f74bc3722e44  GNOME-3.6.0.iso

What changes are pushed in this updated iso?

Regards,
Parag.
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