TARBALLS DUE: GNOME 3.12.1

2014-04-11 Thread Frederic Peters
Hello all,

Isn't running 3.12 sweet?  Did you see the comments?  Christian
Schaller collected some, full of superlatives, have a look:
http://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2014/04/02/gnome-3-12-release-comments/

But it doesn't end there, the new step is the 3.12.1 update release,
and we need tarballs on Monday:

  Tarballs are due on 2014-04-14 before 23:59 UTC for the GNOME 3.12.1
  newstable release, which will be delivered on Wednesday. Modules
  which were proposed for inclusion should try to follow the unstable
  schedule so everyone can test them.  Please make sure that your
  tarballs will be uploaded before Monday 23:59 UTC: tarballs uploaded
  later than that will probably be too late to get in 3.12.1. If you
  are not able to make a tarball before this deadline or if you think
  you'll be late, please send a mail to the release team and we'll
  find someone to roll the tarball for you!


For more information about 3.11, the full schedule, the official
module lists and the proposed module lists, please see our colorful 3.11
page:
   http://www.gnome.org/start/unstable

For a quick overview of the GNOME schedule, please see:
   http://live.gnome.org/Schedule


Cheers,

Fred
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Re: Power switch to actually turn off my computer

2014-04-11 Thread Charles T . Smith
Everybody tells me the configuration for the power button is stored in the
dconf database.

But that's a per-user database, isn't it?  Who is the user when nobody is
logged on?

Does it use the root's dconf?  Does the dconf database handler for the root
always run, even when there's no root desktop up?


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Re: Power switch to actually turn off my computer

2014-04-11 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Fri, 2014-04-11 at 07:16 +, Charles T.Smith wrote:
 Everybody tells me the configuration for the power button is stored in the
 dconf database.
 
 But that's a per-user database, isn't it?  Who is the user when nobody is
 logged on?

Jasper already answered you in the parent mail:
 There's multiple cases for nobody is logged in. If you're running a
 display manager like gdm, gnome-settings-daemon is also running, which
 enforces the policy for shutdown. gdm runs as a special gdm user,
 which has its own dconf profile, so you have to configure the dconf
 setting for the gdm user separately at that case.

 Does it use the root's dconf?  Does the dconf database handler for the root
 always run, even when there's no root desktop up?

So the answers would be no, and no.

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Re: Power switch to actually turn off my computer

2014-04-11 Thread Charles T . Smith
Bastien Nocera hadess at hadess.net writes:

 
 On Fri, 2014-04-11 at 07:16 +, Charles T.Smith wrote:
  Everybody tells me the configuration for the power button is stored in the
  dconf database.
  
  But that's a per-user database, isn't it?  Who is the user when nobody is
  logged on?
 
 Jasper already answered you in the parent mail:
  There's multiple cases for nobody is logged in. If you're running a
  display manager like gdm, gnome-settings-daemon is also running, which
  enforces the policy for shutdown. gdm runs as a special gdm user,
  which has its own dconf profile, so you have to configure the dconf
  setting for the gdm user separately at that case.
 
  Does it use the root's dconf?  Does the dconf database handler for the root
  always run, even when there's no root desktop up?
 
 So the answers would be no, and no.


Well, you're right, he did say a special user (not the root) ... I see it
now - with nobody logged in at the console:


gdm   1435 1  0 11:12 ?00:00:00 /usr/lib/systemd/systemd --user
gdm   1436  1435  0 11:12 ?00:00:00 (sd-pam)   
gdm   1437  1365  0 11:12 ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/gnome-session
--autostart /usr/
gdm   1440 1  0 11:12 ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/dbus-launch
--exit-with-session
gdm   1441 1  0 11:12 ?00:00:00 /bin/dbus-daemon --fork
--print-pid 5 --
gdm   1611 1  0 11:12 ?00:00:00
/usr/lib/at-spi2/at-spi-bus-launcher
gdm   1622  1611  0 11:12 ?00:00:00 /bin/dbus-daemon
--config-file=/etc/at-s
gdm   1625 1  0 11:12 ?00:00:00
/usr/lib/at-spi2/at-spi2-registryd --use
gdm   1638  1437  0 11:12 ?00:00:00
/usr/lib/gnome-settings-daemon-3.0/gnome
gdm   1703  1437  0 11:12 ?00:00:01 gnome-shell --mode=gdm
gdm   1709 1  0 11:12 ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start
--log-target
gdm   1747  1709  0 11:12 ?00:00:00 /usr/lib/pulse/gconf-helper
gdm   1749 1  0 11:12 ?00:00:00 /usr/lib/GConf/2/gconfd-2
gdm   1759 1  0 11:12 ?00:00:00 /usr/lib/dconf-service
gdm   1835 1  0 11:12 ?00:00:00 /usr/lib/mission-control-5
gdm   1839 1  0 11:12 ?00:00:00 /usr/lib/goa-daemon


I didn't want to believe it, but now I see it with my own eyes.  Thank you
all for the info.

Oh.  I still haven't learned where it stores the configuration when it's not
powered up.  I don't even know where to look:

$ man gnome
No manual entry for gnome
$ man gdm
No manual entry for gdm




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Re: Power switch to actually turn off my computer

2014-04-11 Thread Tomasz Torcz
On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 09:21:19AM +, Charles T. Smith wrote:
 Oh.  I still haven't learned where it stores the configuration when it's not
 powered up.  I don't even know where to look:

  Why do you need this knowledge?  It just implementation detail in
grand scheme of handling power button (which by default is handled by
logind reacting to keypresses, gnome-settings-daemon overtakes the
handling while it's running).
  Anyway, documention is here: 
https://developer.gnome.org/dconf/unstable/dconf-overview.html

-- 
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Re: Power switch to actually turn off my computer

2014-04-11 Thread Charles T . Smith
Tomasz Torcz tomek at pipebreaker.pl writes:

 
 On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 09:21:19AM +, Charles T. Smith wrote:
  Oh.  I still haven't learned where it stores the configuration when it's not
  powered up.  I don't even know where to look:
 
   Why do you need this knowledge?  It just implementation detail in
 grand scheme of handling power button (which by default is handled by
 logind reacting to keypresses, gnome-settings-daemon overtakes the
 handling while it's running).


Because until I can reinstall a different Linux, I would like these files to
be integrated into my current configuration system.  See, e.g., someone's
comments at the end of
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Lennart_Poettering#Controversial_Figure


   Anyway, documention is here:
https://developer.gnome.org/dconf/unstable/dconf-overview.html
 


Excellent!  Thank you.


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Re: Power switch to actually turn off my computer

2014-04-11 Thread Tim

On 11/04/14 20:43, Charles T. Smith wrote:
 Tomasz Torcz tomek at pipebreaker.pl writes:

 On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 09:21:19AM +, Charles T. Smith wrote:
 Oh.  I still haven't learned where it stores the configuration when it's not
 powered up.  I don't even know where to look:
   Why do you need this knowledge?  It just implementation detail in
 grand scheme of handling power button (which by default is handled by
 logind reacting to keypresses, gnome-settings-daemon overtakes the
 handling while it's running).

 Because until I can reinstall a different Linux, I would like these files to
 be integrated into my current configuration system.  See, e.g., someone's
 comments at the end of
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Lennart_Poettering#Controversial_Figure
Jasper concisely explained the entire situation, why bring Poettering into 
this? If you want to build your own private distro then that is up to
you to do the leg work! certain components are considered hard deps for GNOME, 
this includes logind, upower, gnome-setttings-daemon, and many
more, you can't just drop these and still expect things to work!



   Anyway, documention is here:
 https://developer.gnome.org/dconf/unstable/dconf-overview.html

 Excellent!  Thank you.


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Re: Power switch to actually turn off my computer

2014-04-11 Thread Leslie S Satenstein
There are two command line programs that could help you to discover what to do. 
 Shutdown   and Reboot.

You can, if you have a shell command, issue them at programmatically.

Or, you can put your shutdown command into a crontab, and have the shutdown 
scheduled to occur at a prescribed time and date.

 
Regards 

 Leslie

Mr. Leslie Satenstein
SENT FROM MY OPEN SOURCE LINUX SYSTEM.





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Again, thanks to everyone for the support.





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Re: Power switch to actually turn off my computer

2014-04-11 Thread Charles T . Smith
Leslie S Satenstein lsatenstein at yahoo.com writes:

 
 
 There are two command line programs that could help you to discover what
to do.  Shutdown   and Reboot.


(are you an AI robot?)

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