Re: multiple gdm

2015-01-15 Thread Stephen Adler
Thanks, just to be clear, I don't want one gnome session running on two
X servers. I want to run two different instances of gnome, each with its
own X server. The idea would be, if all is working, when I boot my
system, I'll get two gdm login screens, one for each monitor. I could
then have to log in twice, perhaps under different user names. It may
sound like a bad hack, but I'm just wondering if somehow I could
configure gdm to work of some specified display, like :0.0 or :0.1 or
something like that.

On Thu, 2015-01-15 at 09:45 -0800, Jasper St. Pierre wrote:
 GNOME does not support multiple X11 screens. My understanding is that
 recent versions of nvidia proprietary added XRandR as a feature, which
 is what we require for multi monitor support.
 
 On Jan 15, 2015 6:31 AM, Stephen Adler ad...@stephenadler.com
 wrote:
 Guys,
 
 I'm not sure if this is the right mailing list to ask this
 question so
 forgive if I miss-posted...
 
 I have a system with two video cards, quadro K2200 and a K620
 and the
 nvidia propriatary driver will not configure a single desktop
 (X server)
 using both cards. It will configure two separate X servers or
 X
 displays, one for each card. So I thought maybe I could run
 two versions
 of gdm, one for each X server or X display (I'm not sure the
 terminology
 here.) :0.0 and :0.1 would be the -display syntax to use. This
 way I
 could have two separate sessions a bit like a KVM switch
 expect I'd have
 two monitors with one keyboard and mouse, and I would move my
 mouse over
 from one monitor to another to switch from one gnome session
 to another.
 
 so... how would I configure gdm to run on two X displays or
 servers?
 
 Thanks!
 
 Steve.
 
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Re: multiple gdm

2015-01-15 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
GNOME does not support multiple X11 screens. My understanding is that
recent versions of nvidia proprietary added XRandR as a feature, which is
what we require for multi monitor support.
On Jan 15, 2015 6:31 AM, Stephen Adler ad...@stephenadler.com wrote:

 Guys,

 I'm not sure if this is the right mailing list to ask this question so
 forgive if I miss-posted...

 I have a system with two video cards, quadro K2200 and a K620 and the
 nvidia propriatary driver will not configure a single desktop (X server)
 using both cards. It will configure two separate X servers or X
 displays, one for each card. So I thought maybe I could run two versions
 of gdm, one for each X server or X display (I'm not sure the terminology
 here.) :0.0 and :0.1 would be the -display syntax to use. This way I
 could have two separate sessions a bit like a KVM switch expect I'd have
 two monitors with one keyboard and mouse, and I would move my mouse over
 from one monitor to another to switch from one gnome session to another.

 so... how would I configure gdm to run on two X displays or servers?

 Thanks!

 Steve.

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Re: multiple gdm

2015-01-15 Thread Giovanni Campagna
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 10:08 AM, Stephen Adler ad...@stephenadler.com
wrote:

 Thanks, just to be clear, I don't want one gnome session running on two
 X servers. I want to run two different instances of gnome, each with its
 own X server. The idea would be, if all is working, when I boot my
 system, I'll get two gdm login screens, one for each monitor. I could
 then have to log in twice, perhaps under different user names. It may
 sound like a bad hack, but I'm just wondering if somehow I could
 configure gdm to work of some specified display, like :0.0 or :0.1 or
 something like that.


:0.0 and :0.1 refer to different screens (GPUs / root windows) under one X
server, which is not supported. What I understand you want is :0 and :1,
ie, two completely separate X servers. The easiest way to obtain that is to
tag the different GPUs and input devices in different seats in udev rules -
then GDM will automatically start an X server on each seat and you'll be
able to login.
Note that you must have two sets of input devices and two separate GPUs,
because each server will take full control of one.

The details for how to configure multiseat are at
http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/multiseat/

Giovanni


 On Thu, 2015-01-15 at 09:45 -0800, Jasper St. Pierre wrote:
  GNOME does not support multiple X11 screens. My understanding is that
  recent versions of nvidia proprietary added XRandR as a feature, which
  is what we require for multi monitor support.
 
  On Jan 15, 2015 6:31 AM, Stephen Adler ad...@stephenadler.com
  wrote:
  Guys,
 
  I'm not sure if this is the right mailing list to ask this
  question so
  forgive if I miss-posted...
 
  I have a system with two video cards, quadro K2200 and a K620
  and the
  nvidia propriatary driver will not configure a single desktop
  (X server)
  using both cards. It will configure two separate X servers or
  X
  displays, one for each card. So I thought maybe I could run
  two versions
  of gdm, one for each X server or X display (I'm not sure the
  terminology
  here.) :0.0 and :0.1 would be the -display syntax to use. This
  way I
  could have two separate sessions a bit like a KVM switch
  expect I'd have
  two monitors with one keyboard and mouse, and I would move my
  mouse over
  from one monitor to another to switch from one gnome session
  to another.
 
  so... how would I configure gdm to run on two X displays or
  servers?
 
  Thanks!
 
  Steve.
 
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Bugzilla upgrade to release 4.4.6 - Testing needed

2015-01-15 Thread Andrea Veri
Hi there!

I'm so glad to announce we made a tremendous jump ahead of having our
Bugzilla istance upgraded to the latest stable release being 4.4.6.

Thanks to the hard job of Krzesimir Nowak who spent the last few
months migrating our customizations to the new codebase and to Olav
Vitters who started the process a while back we are ready to announce
the availability of a test istance based on Bugzilla 4.4.6 with all
the customizations we have in place at bugzilla.gnome.org.

Although have tested and are not aware of any blockers are still
around to justify delaying the upgrade even longer we thought it was
the case to give everyone a week for testing all the new features and
GNOME customizations, specifically we would love receiving intensive
testing on the following features:

1. Git-bz
2. Patch statuses extension (i.e [1])
3. Splinter

---
Warnings:
---

Playing with patch statuses or attachments themselves will result in
an ERR_CERT_COMMON_NAME_INVALID error which you can safely mark as
safe and keep browsing the page you were looking for. The error will
go away when we'll switch the SSL certificates to the ones we have in
production. (the error is currently there as our proxies do have a
wildcard certificate for the gnome.org domain which will only cover
third-level subdomains and result in an error when used on
fourth-level subdomains like in this case
(bug%bugid.bugzilla-test-attachments.gnome.org))

If you'll be looking at [2] you'll see no weekly bug summary has been
published, collectstats has run et all but the dump we used is around
one month old so no, no stats are expected to be there on purpose. The
weekly-bug-summary however supports the use of the days URL
parameter. [3]

---
Where is the test istance located?
---

The test istance is located at https://bugzilla-test.gnome.org. The
database is hosted on the same machine with all the limitations this
may have, please don't overload the machine with huge queries.

---
How do I report a bug I found?
---

Please report all bugs at [4] making sure a [4.4] prefix is appended
before the summary text

---
How long will you keep the testing istance up before upgrading the
production database?
---

The testing istance will be kept up from today 15th to the 22th of
January, so exactly one week from today. After this period if no
blocker bugs have been reported bugzilla.gnome.org will be undergoing
a 36 to 48 hours maintenance and the production database will be
upgraded.

[1] https://bugzilla-test.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=201923action=edit
[2] https://bugzilla-test.gnome.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
[3] https://bugzilla-test.gnome.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.htmldays=60
[4] 
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=bugzilla.gnome.orgshort_desc=%5B4.4%5D%20

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Debian Developer,
Fedora / EPEL packager,
GNOME Infrastructure Team Coordinator,
GNOME Foundation Board of Directors Secretary,
GNOME Foundation Membership  Elections Committee Chairman

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Re: Bugzilla upgrade to release 4.4.6 - Testing needed

2015-01-15 Thread Andrea Veri
And two more details I missed:

---
How can I login?
---

If you didn't change your password between today and the 2014-12-08,
your login will succeed by using the same login information as
bugzilla.gnome.org.

---
Can I update bugs without annoying people with e-mail notifications?
---

Yes, you can. Currently e-mail notifications are disabled from the
test instance so no one is going to receive a single notification from
your actions. The database in use will be trashed when the testing
week will end and the move to production will take place.

cheers,

2015-01-15 19:46 GMT+01:00 Andrea Veri a...@gnome.org:
 Hi there!

 I'm so glad to announce we made a tremendous jump ahead of having our
 Bugzilla istance upgraded to the latest stable release being 4.4.6.

 Thanks to the hard job of Krzesimir Nowak who spent the last few
 months migrating our customizations to the new codebase and to Olav
 Vitters who started the process a while back we are ready to announce
 the availability of a test istance based on Bugzilla 4.4.6 with all
 the customizations we have in place at bugzilla.gnome.org.

 Although have tested and are not aware of any blockers are still
 around to justify delaying the upgrade even longer we thought it was
 the case to give everyone a week for testing all the new features and
 GNOME customizations, specifically we would love receiving intensive
 testing on the following features:

 1. Git-bz
 2. Patch statuses extension (i.e [1])
 3. Splinter

 ---
 Warnings:
 ---

 Playing with patch statuses or attachments themselves will result in
 an ERR_CERT_COMMON_NAME_INVALID error which you can safely mark as
 safe and keep browsing the page you were looking for. The error will
 go away when we'll switch the SSL certificates to the ones we have in
 production. (the error is currently there as our proxies do have a
 wildcard certificate for the gnome.org domain which will only cover
 third-level subdomains and result in an error when used on
 fourth-level subdomains like in this case
 (bug%bugid.bugzilla-test-attachments.gnome.org))

 If you'll be looking at [2] you'll see no weekly bug summary has been
 published, collectstats has run et all but the dump we used is around
 one month old so no, no stats are expected to be there on purpose. The
 weekly-bug-summary however supports the use of the days URL
 parameter. [3]

 ---
 Where is the test istance located?
 ---

 The test istance is located at https://bugzilla-test.gnome.org. The
 database is hosted on the same machine with all the limitations this
 may have, please don't overload the machine with huge queries.

 ---
 How do I report a bug I found?
 ---

 Please report all bugs at [4] making sure a [4.4] prefix is appended
 before the summary text

 ---
 How long will you keep the testing istance up before upgrading the
 production database?
 ---

 The testing istance will be kept up from today 15th to the 22th of
 January, so exactly one week from today. After this period if no
 blocker bugs have been reported bugzilla.gnome.org will be undergoing
 a 36 to 48 hours maintenance and the production database will be
 upgraded.

 [1] https://bugzilla-test.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=201923action=edit
 [2] https://bugzilla-test.gnome.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
 [3] 
 https://bugzilla-test.gnome.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.htmldays=60
 [4] 
 https://bugzilla.gnome.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=bugzilla.gnome.orgshort_desc=%5B4.4%5D%20

 --
 Cheers,

 Andrea

 Debian Developer,
 Fedora / EPEL packager,
 GNOME Infrastructure Team Coordinator,
 GNOME Foundation Board of Directors Secretary,
 GNOME Foundation Membership  Elections Committee Chairman

 Homepage: http://www.gnome.org/~av



-- 
Cheers,

Andrea

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Fedora / EPEL packager,
GNOME Infrastructure Team Coordinator,
GNOME Foundation Board of Directors Secretary,
GNOME Foundation Membership  Elections Committee Chairman

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Re: multiple gdm

2015-01-15 Thread Stephen Adler
Thanks guys for the info. Very useful to know these details.
Cheers. Steve.

On Thu, 2015-01-15 at 10:32 -0800, Giovanni Campagna wrote:
 
 
 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 10:08 AM, Stephen Adler
 ad...@stephenadler.com wrote:
 Thanks, just to be clear, I don't want one gnome session
 running on two
 X servers. I want to run two different instances of gnome,
 each with its
 own X server. The idea would be, if all is working, when I
 boot my
 system, I'll get two gdm login screens, one for each monitor.
 I could
 then have to log in twice, perhaps under different user names.
 It may
 sound like a bad hack, but I'm just wondering if somehow I
 could
 configure gdm to work of some specified display, like :0.0
 or :0.1 or
 something like that.
 
 
 :0.0 and :0.1 refer to different screens (GPUs / root windows) under
 one X server, which is not supported. What I understand you want is :0
 and :1, ie, two completely separate X servers. The easiest way to
 obtain that is to tag the different GPUs and input devices in
 different seats in udev rules - then GDM will automatically start an X
 server on each seat and you'll be able to login.
 Note that you must have two sets of input devices and two separate
 GPUs, because each server will take full control of one.
 
 
 The details for how to configure multiseat are
 at http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/multiseat/
 
 
 Giovanni
  
 On Thu, 2015-01-15 at 09:45 -0800, Jasper St. Pierre wrote:
  GNOME does not support multiple X11 screens. My
 understanding is that
  recent versions of nvidia proprietary added XRandR as a
 feature, which
  is what we require for multi monitor support.
 
  On Jan 15, 2015 6:31 AM, Stephen Adler
 ad...@stephenadler.com
  wrote:
  Guys,
 
  I'm not sure if this is the right mailing list to
 ask this
  question so
  forgive if I miss-posted...
 
  I have a system with two video cards, quadro K2200
 and a K620
  and the
  nvidia propriatary driver will not configure a
 single desktop
  (X server)
  using both cards. It will configure two separate X
 servers or
  X
  displays, one for each card. So I thought maybe I
 could run
  two versions
  of gdm, one for each X server or X display (I'm not
 sure the
  terminology
  here.) :0.0 and :0.1 would be the -display syntax to
 use. This
  way I
  could have two separate sessions a bit like a KVM
 switch
  expect I'd have
  two monitors with one keyboard and mouse, and I
 would move my
  mouse over
  from one monitor to another to switch from one gnome
 session
  to another.
 
  so... how would I configure gdm to run on two X
 displays or
  servers?
 
  Thanks!
 
  Steve.
 
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setting primary monitor bug

2015-01-15 Thread Stephen Adler
Guys,
I'm not sure where to submit this bug, but here goes.

I'm running gnome on fedora 21.

I have 3 (yes, 3, just added another one) 4K dell up3214q monitors
hooked up to my desktop. The 4K monitor has the dual tile architecture
to drive the full 4K at 60Hz, meaning that each monitor is actually two
sub monitors (tiles) with a resolution of 1980x2160 placed side by side
to make up one full monitor.

So I have in effect 6 sub monitors or tiles (2 per physical monitor).

When I go to arrange the tiles using the display setting tool, I had a
hard time setting the primary tile. In the setup that I have, the order
of the tiles, going from left to right as I look at my three monitors is
2, 1, 4, 3, 6, 5. So I want the left side of my center monitor to be the
primary one. The only way I could do this was to set monitor #1 (the
right side of my left monitor) to be the primary display and then reset
the primary display to tile #4. When I first logged in, the primary
display was set to tile #2. I then set the primary display (by accident)
to monitor #3 thinking the order was 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 and ended up with
the primary display being on the right side of my center monitor. So I
went to set it to tile #4 and it refused to set it there. I could then
set tile #2, but not #4. I then set the primary display to tile #1 and
then #4 at which point that actually worked.

I don't know if this makes any sense, but I thought perhaps it was due
to the large number of tiles I'm working with that it messed up the
ability to set the primary display on tile #4 when the current primary
display is set to any other tile.

Anyhow... that's the bug.

Cheers. Steve.


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Re: Installing DBus interface files for services

2015-01-15 Thread Philip Withnall
On Thu, 2015-01-15 at 14:40 +0800, Cosimo Cecchi wrote:
 On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 4:08 PM, Philip Withnall
 phi...@tecnocode.co.uk wrote:
 I can’t think of any reasons why not. Perhaps a GDBus automake
 snippet
 
 could be installed by GLib which:
  1. Installs D-Bus XML interface files.
  2. Includes rules for building documentation and C/H files
 from them.
  3. Validates the XML interface files for well-formedness.
 
 
 I think that would be really helpful; note that my goal here would be
 just to make things more convenient for developers and not to use it
 as a way to guarantee API stability of a service through
 auto-generated code.
 In that sense, I see your points 1), 3) and the first half of 2) as
 something typically used by the service, and the second half of 2) as
 something a consumer would call.

Yes, making sure the snippet doesn’t confuse the two use cases is a good
point.

 Another thing that to take into consideration is that some projects
 currently encode the location of the DBus interface xml into their
 pkgconfig file [1].
 Is that something we should recommend? I believe if we had this
 snippet, the macro could just do a lookup following the usual rules of
 XDG_DATA_DIRS and we could avoid using pkgconfig, but perhaps I'm
 missing something.

IMO, no, we shouldn’t recommend that. The ‘${datadir}/dbus-1/interfaces’
path should be well known, and the interface files should follow the
interface names, which are already hard-coded into the client code
anyway (since it calls them). So we can avoid running pkg-config here.

Philip



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Re: Standardizing the latest dev code Version field value in GNOME Bugzilla?

2015-01-15 Thread Andre Klapper
On Mon, 2015-01-12 at 21:28 +0100, Andre Klapper wrote:
 2) Shall we standardize this? (I volunteer to rename; git master seems
 to be the most popular option.)

Thank you everybody who replied. Only +1 replies so I'll go ahead and
standardize this weekend if I find time.

andre
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multiple gdm

2015-01-15 Thread Stephen Adler
Guys,

I'm not sure if this is the right mailing list to ask this question so
forgive if I miss-posted...

I have a system with two video cards, quadro K2200 and a K620 and the
nvidia propriatary driver will not configure a single desktop (X server)
using both cards. It will configure two separate X servers or X
displays, one for each card. So I thought maybe I could run two versions
of gdm, one for each X server or X display (I'm not sure the terminology
here.) :0.0 and :0.1 would be the -display syntax to use. This way I
could have two separate sessions a bit like a KVM switch expect I'd have
two monitors with one keyboard and mouse, and I would move my mouse over
from one monitor to another to switch from one gnome session to another.

so... how would I configure gdm to run on two X displays or servers?

Thanks!

Steve.

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