Re: Maintainers, please read this. [Re: GNOME 3.19.2 unstable tarballs due]

2015-11-25 Thread Frederic Peters
Hi,

Philip Withnall wrote:

> On Wed, 2015-11-25 at 11:07 +0100, Frederic Peters wrote:
> > I'm a bit surprised by 1) but we could certainly automatically
> > produce
> > a list of maintainers / modules/ time/commits since last release, if
> > that could be useful.
> 
> I think 1) would be useful because I have a load of modules which I am
> not sure if they need to follow the main GNOME release schedule. I had
> a nagging fear they should, but then nobody poked me about doing a
> release, so I forgot to check up further. As a result, a lot of my
> modules haven’t had releases following the schedule. (Sorry if I have
> been a total pain because of this.)
> 
> Would such a list be useful for the release team, as a way of tracking
> who needs nagging? If so, then I hope producing it should not be too
> much of a drain on your time — if it is a drain, then you probably
> shouldn’t do it.

This was mostly done manually (at least as far I am concerned), but
here is an experiment,
  https://people.gnome.org/~fpeters/health/wanted-releases.html

And the red modules are first targets.

(this has been generated from my local clones, updated a few hours
ago, if it's something we want to pursue it would be quite nice to
have this automated and running on GNOME infrastructure) (the disk
requirements exclude openshift).


Fred

[code at https://git.gnome.org/browse/releng/tree/tools/health/]
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Re: Maintainers, please read this. [Re: GNOME 3.19.2 unstable tarballs due]

2015-11-25 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Tue, 2015-11-24 at 12:09 +0100, Frederic Peters wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> > Tarballs are due on 2015-11-23 before 23:59 UTC for the GNOME
> > 3.19.2
> > unstable release, which will be delivered on Wednesday. Modules
> > which
> > were proposed for inclusion should try to follow the unstable
> > schedule
> > so everyone can test them.  Please make sure that your tarballs
> > will
> > be uploaded before Monday 23:59 UTC: tarballs uploaded later than
> > that
> > will probably be too late to get in 3.19.2. If you are not able to
> > make a tarball before this deadline or if you think you'll be late,
> > please send a mail to the release team and we'll find someone to
> > roll
> > the tarball for you!
> 
> It's been some months we have those reminder emails sent to
> devel-announce-list.  Maintainers, make sure you are subscribed.
> 
> Maintainers (bis), please do try to respect the Monday 23:59 UTC
> deadline, it's really not fun to chase maintainers for days during
> release weeks.  If you know you will be late, tell us, either by
> email
> at release-t...@gnome.org or simply by pinging us on #release-team.

I'd rather somebody helped me 1) know which of my modules need
releasing 2) do releases.
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Re: Maintainers, please read this. [Re: GNOME 3.19.2 unstable tarballs due]

2015-11-25 Thread Frederic Peters
Bastien Nocera wrote:

> > It's been some months we have those reminder emails sent to
> > devel-announce-list.  Maintainers, make sure you are subscribed.
> > 
> > Maintainers (bis), please do try to respect the Monday 23:59 UTC
> > deadline, it's really not fun to chase maintainers for days during
> > release weeks.  If you know you will be late, tell us, either by
> > email
> > at release-t...@gnome.org or simply by pinging us on #release-team.
> 
> I'd rather somebody helped me 1) know which of my modules need
> releasing 2) do releases.

We can of course assist in producing tarballs, just ping us.

I'm a bit surprised by 1) but we could certainly automatically produce
a list of maintainers / modules/ time/commits since last release, if
that could be useful.


Fred
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Re: Maintainers, please read this. [Re: GNOME 3.19.2 unstable tarballs due]

2015-11-25 Thread Philip Withnall
On Wed, 2015-11-25 at 11:07 +0100, Frederic Peters wrote:
> Bastien Nocera wrote:
> 
> > > It's been some months we have those reminder emails sent to
> > > devel-announce-list.  Maintainers, make sure you are subscribed.
> > > 
> > > Maintainers (bis), please do try to respect the Monday 23:59 UTC
> > > deadline, it's really not fun to chase maintainers for days
> > > during
> > > release weeks.  If you know you will be late, tell us, either by
> > > email
> > > at release-t...@gnome.org or simply by pinging us on #release-
> > > team.
> > 
> > I'd rather somebody helped me 1) know which of my modules need
> > releasing 2) do releases.
> 
> We can of course assist in producing tarballs, just ping us.
> 
> I'm a bit surprised by 1) but we could certainly automatically
> produce
> a list of maintainers / modules/ time/commits since last release, if
> that could be useful.

I think 1) would be useful because I have a load of modules which I am
not sure if they need to follow the main GNOME release schedule. I had
a nagging fear they should, but then nobody poked me about doing a
release, so I forgot to check up further. As a result, a lot of my
modules haven’t had releases following the schedule. (Sorry if I have
been a total pain because of this.)

Would such a list be useful for the release team, as a way of tracking
who needs nagging? If so, then I hope producing it should not be too
much of a drain on your time — if it is a drain, then you probably
shouldn’t do it.

Philip

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Re: Maintainers, please read this. [Re: GNOME 3.19.2 unstable tarballs due]

2015-11-25 Thread Milan Crha
On Wed, 2015-11-25 at 10:52 +, Philip Withnall wrote:
> Would such a list be useful for the release team, as a way of
> tracking who needs nagging? If so, then I hope producing it should
> not be too much of a drain on your time — if it is a drain, then you
> probably shouldn’t do it.

Hi,
it would be nice, if anything like this will be implemented, to have
the notifications on the opt-in bases.

I understand the need for maintainers of tons of modules which do not
receive any active development, but for me, whom has only few packages,
would be the notification a simple spam and thus quite annoying thing.
I'm fine the Friday notification about the following Monday release. I
have also setup a calendar notifications about the releases.

Just my opinion on the matter.
Bye,
Milan
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