Re: Retiring app menus - planning for 3.32.0

2018-09-28 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Fri, 2018-09-28 at 16:53 +0100, Alberto Ruiz wrote:
> 
> 
> 2018-09-28 15:32 GMT+01:00 Allan Day :
> > Florian Müllner  wrote:
> > >
> > > With regard to dropping the 'quit' action, is there any guidance
> > for
> > > background applications? That is, apps where closing all windows
> > does
> > > *not* exit the application, but the explicit 'quit' action does.
> > 
> 
> FWIW, the app menu "Quit" does not quit Telegam, so this is worth
> exploring though a bit orthogonal to the question of removing the
> menu.

Probably because it doesn't actually have an app menu, so gnome-shell
adds one with a single entry, which would do the same thing as closing
(all of?) the app's windows.

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Re: Retiring app menus - planning for 3.32.0

2018-09-28 Thread Alberto Ruiz
2018-09-28 15:32 GMT+01:00 Allan Day :

> Florian Müllner  wrote:
> >
> > With regard to dropping the 'quit' action, is there any guidance for
> > background applications? That is, apps where closing all windows does
> > *not* exit the application, but the explicit 'quit' action does.
>

FWIW, the app menu "Quit" does not quit Telegam, so this is worth exploring
though a bit orthogonal to the question of removing the menu.


>
> Sorry for the slow reply - it's been a busy week.
>
> This question is something that has been on my mind too. Having an
> explicit way to stop an app from running in the background is
> interesting, but then I wonder how desirable it is to have an action
> to completely quit just once. I also wonder how obvious the function
> is. How does someone know that quit stops the app completely, whereas
> close doesn't? And would we just show quit in the case that an app
> runs in the background...?
>
> Another issue about quit which has occurred to me is that we show it
> in the dash context menus...
>
> Allan
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Re: Retiring app menus - planning for 3.32.0

2018-09-28 Thread Allan Day
Florian Müllner  wrote:
>
> With regard to dropping the 'quit' action, is there any guidance for
> background applications? That is, apps where closing all windows does
> *not* exit the application, but the explicit 'quit' action does.

Sorry for the slow reply - it's been a busy week.

This question is something that has been on my mind too. Having an
explicit way to stop an app from running in the background is
interesting, but then I wonder how desirable it is to have an action
to completely quit just once. I also wonder how obvious the function
is. How does someone know that quit stops the app completely, whereas
close doesn't? And would we just show quit in the case that an app
runs in the background...?

Another issue about quit which has occurred to me is that we show it
in the dash context menus...

Allan
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