Re: System-wide dark mode
On Thu, 2019-06-06 at 11:41 +0200, Milan Crha via desktop-devel-list wrote: > On Wed, 2019-06-05 at 23:14 +0500, Alexander via desktop-devel-list > wrote: > > Since WebKit supports Apple's dark mode now, I wonder if mail > > clients (and also Devhelp/Builder) will be able to provide styles > > for > > dark mode with that. > > from one of the mail application point of view (being it Evolution > here), the problem with HTML mails is that some clients did/do > generate HTML where they declare only text color, but no background > color, and bet the text color is black. Black text color on a dark > theme background is not ideal for reading, thus the HTML mails are > set to use white background by default. When you count all the (not > only) CSS tricks and various elements it's not that easy to change > the color of the text in an HTML code generated by "random" mail > client. I know it's awful and bad for eyes in the dark theme, but > there was not found anything better. A workaround is using a "darker" background that still plays nice with black text. -- Germán Poo-Caamaño https://calcifer.org/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: System-wide dark mode
On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 1:14 PM, Alexander wrote: Since WebKit supports Apple's dark mode now, I wonder if mail clients (and also Devhelp/Builder) will be able to provide styles for dark mode with that. Well we really don't, not yet. That's what I've been trying to say Once we do, mailers could add color-schemes to the CSS to indicate support for dark mode. That will be automatically supported once WebKitGTK supports the color-schemes property. If Apple Mail already supports this, as I suspect, then mailers will start using it soon. Like Milan says, it will never be safe to use for arbitrary HTML mails. HTML is always going to need to opt-in. Michael ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: System-wide dark mode
On Wed, 2019-06-05 at 23:14 +0500, Alexander via desktop-devel-list wrote: > Since WebKit supports Apple's dark mode now, I wonder if mail > clients (and also Devhelp/Builder) will be able to provide styles for > dark mode with that. Hi, from one of the mail application point of view (being it Evolution here), the problem with HTML mails is that some clients did/do generate HTML where they declare only text color, but no background color, and bet the text color is black. Black text color on a dark theme background is not ideal for reading, thus the HTML mails are set to use white background by default. When you count all the (not only) CSS tricks and various elements it's not that easy to change the color of the text in an HTML code generated by "random" mail client. I know it's awful and bad for eyes in the dark theme, but there was not found anything better. Plain text messages are different, there's no formatting, thus the user's theme is respected with them. Bye, Milan ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
