Re: I believe we should reconsider our sys-tray removal

2019-03-25 Thread Mattias Bengtsson via desktop-devel-list
On Mon, 2019-03-25 at 12:22 -0400, Will Thompson wrote:
> 
> [...] In particular, several third-party, non-free apps like Dropbox
> which are partially or totally unusable without a status notifier
> already support it. (Not to make this all about Dropbox – it's just
> an app I use that falls into the "totally unusable" category.)

Hm. I'd like to challenge this. I've used Dropbox for 10+ years and I
forgot it even had a notification icon.

From my experience there aren't many (or even any?) apps that fall on
the partially- to totally unusable scale.

Regards, Mattias

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Re: I believe we should reconsider our sys-tray removal

2019-03-25 Thread Mattias Bengtsson via desktop-devel-list
On Mon, 2019-03-25 at 10:21 -0400, Pat Suwalski wrote:
> 
> [...]
> Is that a joke? On a default gnome install on any modern screen,
> only about 25% of the top bar contains any information at all. It
> can't be "the most important real estate" and be so underutilized. 

It really can. One stated goal for GNOME 3 was to provide a distraction
free environment to work in. If you expose too much information you'll
add distraction while diluting the information actually provided.

> That said, notification icons are literally the most useful
> information points for the many applications I have running in the
> background. So they deserve prominent placement.

This is rather anecdotal and hard (for the GNOME developers) to act on.
It would be more interesting to know what problems you have with the
current notification system.

> You think "application developers simply cannot live without their 
> application icons being visible at all times"? That's why Windows
> lets you hide them. Problem solved. Like, since XP in 2001.

I think what they did to the notification bar in Windows XP is pretty
weak to be honest. Closer to worst-of-both-worlds than to a solution in
my perspective.

Regards,
Mattias

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Re: Documents and core apps

2019-01-18 Thread Mattias Bengtsson via desktop-devel-list
On Thu, 2019-01-17 at 18:06 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote:
> Nobody added the ability for gnome-documents to open files...
> 
> I'll probably split off Books at some point in the future.

That's great to hear. I'm using Books to read comics, flipping my Yoga
360° to tablet mode, and using it in touch mode is much easier than
Evince.

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