Re: libproxy as external dependency

2008-12-18 Thread Michael Banck
On Thu, Nov 06, 2008 at 03:01:01PM +0100, Vincent Untz wrote:
 Le mardi 21 octobre 2008, à 10:30 -0400, Nathaniel McCallum a écrit :
  I'd like to propose libproxy (LGPL 2.1+;  
  http://code.google.com/p/libproxy/) as a blessed external dependency for  
  GNOME 2.26.  libproxy is currently used by vlc and neon and libsoup and  
  webkit are considering adopting it.
 
 The only argument I see against libproxy is yet another library while
 we're trying to reduce the number of libraries and people seemed to
 agree that this is actually not a real issue.
 
 So I guess we can accept it, unless someone else raises another issue?

FYI, a member of the Debian security team raised concerns:

WPAD is a broken protocol with security issues inherent to the DNS
devolution mechanism (which is also performed by libproxy).  Please
don't add implementations to the Debian archive.

http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2008/12/msg00737.html

Forwarding here without further comments as I have no idea about the
security implications.


Michael
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Re: New module proposal: gnome-user-share

2008-10-24 Thread Michael Banck
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 06:19:54PM +0200, Murray Cumming wrote:
  Whoa? There is no Debian package simply because no one had stepped up so
  far. Christophe Sauthier is starting to work on it, and I will help him
  to get the necessary changes in postgresql.
 
 Thanks.

BTW, I talked to one of the Debian apache maintainers over dinner last
night, and he also agreed it's probably a good idea to split the init
scripts off.

Probably best to come up with some general scheme here for these kind of
things.


Michael
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Re: Debian-specific patches for the GNOME packages

2008-09-11 Thread Michael Banck
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 02:47:34PM +0200, Murray Cumming wrote:
 That seems to include patches that just add the debian packaging
 files, so it's hard to see what really has a real patch. For instance, I
 can't see any actual code changes here:
 http://patch-tracking.debian.net/patch/debianonly/view/gtkmm2.4/1:2.12.7-1

Yeah, I noticed as well and contacted the responsible person about this
whether it would be possible to have some visual feedback on the main
page for this.

If there's no mention of 'series style patches' on the page like on
http://patch-tracking.debian.net/package/gtkmm2.4/1:2.12.7-1 (i.e., just
'Debian diff Information'), the diff just contains the debian/
directory apparently.  Compare with e.g.
http://patch-tracking.debian.net/package/gtk+2.0/2.12.11-3


Michael
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Re: build systems

2007-11-10 Thread Michael Banck
On Sat, Nov 10, 2007 at 11:24:36AM +0100, Emmanuel Fleury wrote:
 Richard Hughes wrote:
  On Sat, 2007-11-10 at 00:32 +0100, Olav Vitters wrote:
  In this case there is an easy solution. Convert a few GNOME projects
  to the new build system and show the result.
  
  Good plan. I've got an old branch of gnome-power-manager building with
  waf, and I indend on having waf a build method for PackageKit in the
  next few days. Is there any hard and fast rule that says gnome projects
  _have_ to use autotools?
 
 There is an extra dependency that nobody did evoke during this thread.
 In Debian, the Common Debian  Build-System
 (http://build-common.alioth.debian.org/) provides some facilities to
 integrate modules based on autotools. I guess, it would be handy if you
 could also come with the same facilities to build packages using this
 scheme.

That's harsh - CDBS is best known for it's off-putting internal
implementation (Why do I have to look at hundreds of lines of Makefile
code to debug my package build?), something which seems to be one of
the top-cited hate reasons for automake as well.

Anyway, if somebody converts some project to a new build system to show
its superiority over autotools, I suggest to include a library (and
maybe python) package in there as well - while it seems to be pretty
easy to just get simple programs run with those new fashioned build
systems, getting a library properly built with scons was something
non-obvious the last time I saw it mentioned, for example.


Michael
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Re: [Usability] Drive applet by default

2006-09-14 Thread Michael Banck
On Thu, Sep 14, 2006 at 02:05:49PM +0200, Isak Savo wrote:
 I think he's talking about the fact that when you unmount a USB
 device in windows, the devices are often turning off their leds to
 indicate that they are now turned off. When unmounting in linux, this
 is often not the case (although the device *is* properly unmounted and
 data is flushed, so it's just a cosmetic thing.).

My iAudio M3 says Do not disconnect! on its display even after
unmounting, I don't think this is only cosmetic.


Michael
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Re: Gnome 2.14 Module Proposal: Deskbar Applet

2005-10-27 Thread Michael Banck
On Wed, Oct 26, 2005 at 11:08:57PM +0100, Mike Hearn wrote:
 Something like Python eats your memory, now here's how we're going to
 solve it was what I was after. 

It is unclear to me how you could achieve this in the context of the
GNOME project.

Even if you frob python to behave on your box, that will still leave
users with default python installation on all the other distributions.


Michael

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Re: Removing xrdb for 10% startup win?

2005-08-28 Thread Michael Banck
On Sun, Aug 28, 2005 at 11:37:31AM +0100, Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro wrote:
   So how about GNOME doing this instead:
 
   1- stat(~/.Xresources) -- if fail return
   2- stat(~/.Xresources.compiled)
   3- if ~/.Xresources.compiled does not exist OR
 ~/.Xresources.compiled older than ~/.Xresources:
   3.a) run cpp ~/.Xresources -o ~/.Xresources.compiled
   4- Run xrdb -nocpp ~/.Xresources.compiled

Why not grep for any preprocessor statements, and only run cpp if some
are present?


Michael

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Re: gdm2 string freeze breakage

2005-03-21 Thread Michael Banck
On Mon, Mar 21, 2005 at 02:18:49PM +0100, Danilo egan wrote:
 Today at 13:48, Bill Haneman wrote:
 
  Perhaps.  But with the political issues surrounding 'Taiwan', would it
  not be safer not to introduce this string?
 
 We're not proclaiming it's independence of China, in the same way that
 we're not proclaiming Hong Kong's independence of China, even though
 there's a string Chinese (Hong Kong).

Debian losts its kernel maintainer over this (or something related), so
I'd be careful here.


cheers,

Michael

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davyd back when I was in highschool... it was stop playing
with the little green lines, and do some damned study
bratsche And that was what, an Atari 2600?
davyd I'm not that old... I just had my terminals set to green text
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