(Legal) advice needed

2006-07-21 Thread Rouquier Philippe




Hi,

Here is the problem I've run into. I'm the author of bonfire, an app for burning CD/DVD (http://gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1158). Recently I've been given a CVS account to import it into GNOME CVS.
Before I did it, a user reported that bonfire was a name used by a Canadian site selling music to be downloaded (http://bonfire.puretracks.com/). Apparently they had trademarked this name (see http://strategis.ic.gc.ca/app/cipo/trademarks/search/tmSearch.do?language=eng and search for bonfire).

So, my question is: Is it still OK to import bonfire into GNOME CVS or should I change the name before?

Of course I'm reluctant to change the name for many reasons, being:
- the site is Canadian, I'm French and GNOME servers are in the USA, so maybe trademark doesn't apply in this case
- bonfire just started to get included in some major distribution and changing the name will postpone everything
- it's a new application and changing the name would confuse many people
- above all, Bestbuy (the trademark holder) won't really care about my app having the same name

What I thought was: import bonfire into GNOME CVS and wait and see. If Bestbuy reacts (which I doubt but who knows) I would change the name. But I really want to make sure that it's not an issue for GNOME.

That being said, I would change the name if that was a problem regarding GNOME.

I really need advice. Thanks in advance.

Regards,

Philippe Rouquier




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Re: (Legal) advice needed

2006-07-21 Thread Luis Villa
On 7/21/06, Rouquier Philippe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  Hi,

  Here is the problem I've run into. I'm the author of bonfire, an app for 
 burning CD/DVD
 (http://gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1158). Recently I've been given a CVS 
 account to
 import it into GNOME CVS.
 Before I did it, a user reported that bonfire was a name used by a Canadian 
 site selling
 music to be downloaded (http://bonfire.puretracks.com/). Apparently they had 
 trademarked
 this name (see
 http://strategis.ic.gc.ca/app/cipo/trademarks/search/tmSearch.do?language=eng 
 and
 search for bonfire).

Application # 1218927 and 1218917 for those wondering.

  So, my question is: Is it still OK to import bonfire into GNOME CVS or 
 should I change the
 name before?

We don't have a formal policy on such things, but obviously we'd
prefer to avoid known legal problems.


  Of course I'm reluctant to change the name for many reasons, being:
  - the site is Canadian, I'm French and GNOME servers are in the USA, so 
 maybe trademark
 doesn't apply in this case

IANAL(Y)* but some things to consider:

(1) trademarks can be extended; i.e., it is likely that if Best Buy
wanted to file to use this mark in the US or France, they would get it
and could cause you legal problems in a completely traditional, valid
way. (Though you have been using it in the US and France longer than
they have, so you might win the case, but it would be expensive, a
PITA, etc.)

(2) GNOME does try to distribute in Canada; it would be irritating if
a Canadian court told us we had to block ftp.g.o from being seen by
Canadians :) This is a very messy area of the law, with very little
settled precedent, but again, they could try to make life
irritating/expensive/not fun.

  - bonfire just started to get included in some major distribution and 
 changing the name will
 postpone everything
  - it's a new application and changing the name would confuse many people

You should ask the Ekiga guys about that- it would seem that their
name change went pretty smoothly.

 - above all, Bestbuy (the trademark holder) won't really care about my app 
 having the same
 name

This is a legal and strategy decision for them, but they are probably
*required* by trademark law (if Canadian law is anything like American
law) to care about your app having the same name, at least in Canada.
If they don't defend it against you, they can lose the right to use
the mark to describe software, which presumably is a big problem for
them.

  What I thought was: import bonfire into GNOME CVS and wait and see. If 
 Bestbuy reacts
 (which I doubt but who knows) I would change the name. But I really want to 
 make sure
 that it's not an issue for GNOME.

I'd certainly suggest being proactive, changing the name now, and
getting it over with instead of letting it hang over your head- if
bonfire is incredibly successful, someday this *will* be a problem.
Whether or not it is a problem for GNOME should probably be left to a
real lawyer- if the only legal penalty is 'you have to change the
name', then it probably shouldn't be a problem for GNOME; if the
potential legal penalty is 'change the name and fork over a lot of
cash', then the board should probably think about it :)

Luis

* Hi Dave! Hi Jeff!
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