Re: 3.6 Feature: Totem - Videos
On Tue, 2012-04-24 at 09:28 +0200, Tomasz Torcz wrote: Totem already does that - in preferences, it's the first option on first tab - Start playing files from last position. You, sir, are a life-saver. Thank you! Federico ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: 3.6 Feature: Totem - Videos
On Tue, 2012-04-24 at 09:29 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote:
On Mon, 2012-04-23 at 21:09 -0500, Federico Mena Quintero wrote:
* Tivo-like pausing. The phone rings and you stop paying attention to
the TV or screen; by the time you hit Pause you've missed some of the
movie's conversation, so you then need to rewind a bit, which is
awkward.
Ring buffer supports needs (or rather needed) work on the GStreamer
side. I haven't looked into it since the last round of buffering
improvements (when we added download buffering), but it should be
implementable now. Feel free to file a bug, I thought we already had one
but I guess not.
Thanks, done - https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=675464
[Connection with a BitTorrent client]
We'll either use Tracker or monitor some directories to look for new,
local videos. You'll just need to configure your download system to put
them in the right location once done.
Sounds like the easiest thing to do, and it makes perfect sense.
As a drive-by suggestion - make it so the configured directory is
scanned recursively, for when you end up
downloading both VideoDir/SomeNewTitle/{foo.avi,foo.txt} :)
Federico
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Re: 3.6 Feature: Totem - Videos
On 05/04/2012 08:25 PM, Federico Mena Quintero wrote:
On Tue, 2012-04-24 at 09:29 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote:
[Connection with a BitTorrent client]
We'll either use Tracker or monitor some directories to look for new,
local videos. You'll just need to configure your download system to put
them in the right location once done.
Sounds like the easiest thing to do, and it makes perfect sense.
As a drive-by suggestion - make it so the configured directory is
scanned recursively, for when you end up
downloading both VideoDir/SomeNewTitle/{foo.avi,foo.txt} :)
The default for tracker these days is:
$HOME (non-recursively, just files in that directory)
XDG locations (Videos, Music, Downloads, etc) all recursively.
Assuming it's not put in some random place undefined by the XDG
locations and those locations are not broken :) it should be found by
Tracker.
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Martyn
Founder and CEO of Lanedo GmbH.
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Re: 3.6 Feature: Totem - Videos
On Fri, 2012-05-04 at 22:58 +0100, Martyn Russell wrote: The default for tracker these days is: $HOME (non-recursively, just files in that directory) XDG locations (Videos, Music, Downloads, etc) all recursively. Sounds perfect; this would work well for me. Thanks :) Federico ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: 3.6 Feature: Totem - Videos
On 24/04/12 13:51, Luca Ferretti wrote: 2012/4/23 Bastien Nocerahad...@hadess.net: Work is on-going to make Totem into that: https://live.gnome.org/Design/Apps/Videos#Tentative_Design I like the mock ups. Looks cool, the only issue I can see is actual video files may have weird names (such as VID_20120424_123212.mp4 or [Freedom] Mobile Suit Gundam Unicorn - 03 (1920x1080 X264 AAC) Sub Ita.mp4) and I suspect there is no (simple) way to re-tag them. Not really. With Tracker on the N9 and earlier devices we attempted to put something in place to work around this, but it never catches all cases and depending on how you use that code can impact performance. Unfortunately, correct metadata/file names for media is something we will always battle, not just for videos, but also music, etc. I am also of the view that much of the video information (like the extension, the format, resolution, etc) is not really useful a lot of the time (especially to non-tech users) but should be available through some interface (menu, dialog, etc). -- Regards, Martyn Founder and CEO of Lanedo GmbH. ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: 3.6 Feature: Totem - Videos
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 8:03 AM, Alberto Ruiz ar...@gnome.org wrote: If you ask me, I think torrents should be integrated in the browser, no other browser implements this and would make the torrent downloading experience much more transparent to the user. No other browser, except… Opera? :) -- ~Nirbheek Chauhan Gentoo GNOME+Mozilla Team ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: 3.6 Feature: Totem - Videos
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 09:09:28PM -0500, Federico Mena Quintero wrote: right before going to bed, but if one of us falls asleep, the other one has to remember the rough minute:second marker for the next day (the video window gets closed in the daytime - got real work to do!). (You know how Evince remembers the position at which you were reading a PDF? maybe something like that would work for Totem - remember the position for each video?) Totem already does that - in preferences, it's the first option on first tab - Start playing files from last position. -- Tomasz Torcz Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station xmpp: zdzich...@chrome.plwagon filled with backup tapes. -- Jim Gray ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: 3.6 Feature: Totem - Videos
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 4:33 AM, Alberto Ruiz ar...@gnome.org wrote: If you ask me, I think torrents should be integrated in the browser, no other browser implements this and would make the torrent downloading experience much more transparent to the user. After that you get the same workflow as any other downloaded file. Except that for torrents you want to handle extra stuff such as upload speed limit and sharing ratio. -- Alexandre Franke ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: 3.6 Feature: Totem - Videos
On Mon, 2012-04-23 at 21:09 -0500, Federico Mena Quintero wrote: On Mon, 2012-04-23 at 17:52 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote: Work is on-going to make Totem into that: https://live.gnome.org/Design/Apps/Videos#Tentative_Design The thumbnail view looks really nice! And the searching in YouTube/Vimeo/etc. looks very good for when you are in a I don't know what to watch mood. (Did those sites finally get a clue about letting you view videos outside their web pages?) No. Totem doesn't implement any code specific to those websites and grilo handles the browsing, and quvi (through totem-pl-parser) passing us a video URL we can play back. Personally what would most improve my Totem experience would be: * Tivo-like pausing. The phone rings and you stop paying attention to the TV or screen; by the time you hit Pause you've missed some of the movie's conversation, so you then need to rewind a bit, which is awkward. Ring buffer supports needs (or rather needed) work on the GStreamer side. I haven't looked into it since the last round of buffering improvements (when we added download buffering), but it should be implementable now. Feel free to file a bug, I thought we already had one but I guess not. * Easier ways to seek than the current slider, or a drop-dead obvious way to set up a bookmark or something. We watch an episode of $series right before going to bed, but if one of us falls asleep, the other one has to remember the rough minute:second marker for the next day (the video window gets closed in the daytime - got real work to do!). (You know how Evince remembers the position at which you were reading a PDF? maybe something like that would work for Totem - remember the position for each video?) Totem already does that, and has for a while: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=164918 We have some other improvements planned for session management though: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=582036 * Some sort of connection with a BitTorrent client. I know this is treading on taboo ground, but I assume that a lot of people download torrents and then manually have to select which of the downloaded files to view with Totem - it's just cumbersome. We'll either use Tracker or monitor some directories to look for new, local videos. You'll just need to configure your download system to put them in the right location once done. Cheers ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: 3.6 Feature: Totem - Videos
On Tue, 2012-04-24 at 03:33 +0100, Alberto Ruiz wrote: 2012/4/24 Federico Mena Quintero feder...@gnome.org * Some sort of connection with a BitTorrent client. I know this is treading on taboo ground, but I assume that a lot of people download torrents and then manually have to select which of the downloaded files to view with Totem - it's just cumbersome. If you ask me, I think torrents should be integrated in the browser, no other browser implements this and would make the torrent downloading experience much more transparent to the user. After that you get the same workflow as any other downloaded file. For Totem, or any other app, the challenge is, torrent hold multple files, so there's no torrent-videofile 1:1 map. The really cool workflow would be for Totem to be able to subscribe to a torrent site RSS dedicated to video like vodo.net's Totem uses grilo to discover content. There's no stopping you from implementing a grilo plugin to browse and download files, and a totem one to control this downloading. Not something I'm interested in working on though. ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: 3.6 Feature: Totem - Videos
2012/4/24 Nirbheek Chauhan nirbh...@gentoo.org On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 8:03 AM, Alberto Ruiz ar...@gnome.org wrote: If you ask me, I think torrents should be integrated in the browser, no other browser implements this and would make the torrent downloading experience much more transparent to the user. No other browser, except… Opera? :) Ouch! Didn't know that :) -- ~Nirbheek Chauhan Gentoo GNOME+Mozilla Team -- Cheers, Alberto Ruiz ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: 3.6 Feature: Totem - Videos
On 04/24/2012 04:33 AM, Alberto Ruiz wrote: 2012/4/24 Federico Mena Quintero feder...@gnome.org mailto:feder...@gnome.org * Some sort of connection with a BitTorrent client. I know this is treading on taboo ground, but I assume that a lot of people download torrents and then manually have to select which of the downloaded files to view with Totem - it's just cumbersome. If you ask me, I think torrents should be integrated in the browser, no other browser implements this and would make the torrent downloading experience much more transparent to the user. Just a nitpick about no other: opera has bittorrent integration: http://help.opera.com/Linux/9.00/en/bittorrent.html BR -- Alejandro Piñeiro Iglesias ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: 3.6 Feature: Totem - Videos
I really like web and agree that adding torrent support would be awesome, but a larger priority for me is more options for privacy/cookie handling. As it is the only options (at least, that I see) are to accept all cookies, only those from sites you visit, or none. No options for deleting cookies when you close web, or even for accepting cookies on a per-cookie-basis as in most every other browser, or for deleting single cookies (you can only clear them all at once - an even that option is slightly hidden away). Otherwise, I really like web - its lightweight and quite fast, even compared to my long-time favorite browser Opera :) Emily On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 7:36 AM, Piñeiro apinhe...@igalia.com wrote: On 04/24/2012 04:33 AM, Alberto Ruiz wrote: 2012/4/24 Federico Mena Quintero feder...@gnome.org * Some sort of connection with a BitTorrent client. I know this is treading on taboo ground, but I assume that a lot of people download torrents and then manually have to select which of the downloaded files to view with Totem - it's just cumbersome. If you ask me, I think torrents should be integrated in the browser, no other browser implements this and would make the torrent downloading experience much more transparent to the user. Just a nitpick about no other: opera has bittorrent integration: http://help.opera.com/Linux/9.00/en/bittorrent.html BR -- Alejandro Piñeiro Iglesias ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: 3.6 Feature: Totem - Videos
2012/4/23 Bastien Nocera had...@hadess.net: Work is on-going to make Totem into that: https://live.gnome.org/Design/Apps/Videos#Tentative_Design Looks cool, the only issue I can see is actual video files may have weird names (such as VID_20120424_123212.mp4 or [Freedom] Mobile Suit Gundam Unicorn - 03 (1920x1080 X264 AAC) Sub Ita.mp4) and I suspect there is no (simple) way to re-tag them. Oh, and of course the usual concern about how can I hide my p0rn videos? :) More, what's the plan? Keep the current Totem UI and add this new Video app (like Documents and Evince for PDF/PS/other files)? ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
3.6 Feature: Totem - Videos
Work is on-going to make Totem into that: https://live.gnome.org/Design/Apps/Videos#Tentative_Design Which means more clutter (the framework) and less clutter (the mess). Cheers ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: 3.6 Feature: Totem - Videos
2012/4/24 Federico Mena Quintero feder...@gnome.org * Some sort of connection with a BitTorrent client. I know this is treading on taboo ground, but I assume that a lot of people download torrents and then manually have to select which of the downloaded files to view with Totem - it's just cumbersome. If you ask me, I think torrents should be integrated in the browser, no other browser implements this and would make the torrent downloading experience much more transparent to the user. After that you get the same workflow as any other downloaded file. For Totem, or any other app, the challenge is, torrent hold multple files, so there's no torrent-videofile 1:1 map. The really cool workflow would be for Totem to be able to subscribe to a torrent site RSS dedicated to video like vodo.net's Federico ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list -- Cheers, Alberto Ruiz ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
