Re: Future of libRSVG
Hello Andre and Eduard. There have been diffrents efforts on Wikipedia, WMFco to push SVG support. All of them look quite dead now and no one has ever directly talked to our tool provider. Am 18.01.2015 01:58, schrieb Eduard Braun: 1. Get a WMF developer to work (at least part time) on maintenance of libRSVG? This way we could at least get all the patches merged, that were already provided by volunteers over the last months/years. This would not only benefit Wikimedia projects but everybody using libRSVG! 2. Evaluate the usage of libRSVG in WMF projects (if there is no willingness to donate resources). Wikimedia projects might as well switch to a more maintained library then (as you suggest yourself). (Maybe it's even time to stop delivering pre-rendered PNGs and directly send the SVG file to browsers with sufficient support.) Both of your suggestions are also on my mind and the reason I'm posting here. Mostly I'm looking for opinions from insiders to strengthen our decision base on Wikipedia. a) There had been efforts. some got quite far but fell asleep over time¹. (There are more pages about this topic but I don't want to list them all here) ¹ http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposal:Librsvg_development_funding b) Mediawiki software even has an interface to diffrent SVG renders². The only real alternative with a short look is ImageMagick. ² http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Image_administration#SVG Greetings Menner - https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Menner ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: Future of libRSVG
Hi, Sorry, I only read the description section of Andres link¹ and not to the bottom with obviously your post. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T40010 This is mostly I expected here as answer. Thanks for your patience Menner - https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Menner Am 18.01.2015 09:25, schrieb Michael Brenner: Hello Andre and Eduard. There have been diffrents efforts on Wikipedia, WMFco to push SVG support. All of them look quite dead now and no one has ever directly talked to our tool provider. Am 18.01.2015 01:58, schrieb Eduard Braun: 1. Get a WMF developer to work (at least part time) on maintenance of libRSVG? This way we could at least get all the patches merged, that were already provided by volunteers over the last months/years. This would not only benefit Wikimedia projects but everybody using libRSVG! 2. Evaluate the usage of libRSVG in WMF projects (if there is no willingness to donate resources). Wikimedia projects might as well switch to a more maintained library then (as you suggest yourself). (Maybe it's even time to stop delivering pre-rendered PNGs and directly send the SVG file to browsers with sufficient support.) Both of your suggestions are also on my mind and the reason I'm posting here. Mostly I'm looking for opinions from insiders to strengthen our decision base on Wikipedia. a) There had been efforts. some got quite far but fell asleep over time¹. (There are more pages about this topic but I don't want to list them all here) ¹ http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposal:Librsvg_development_funding b) Mediawiki software even has an interface to diffrent SVG renders². The only real alternative with a short look is ImageMagick. ² http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Image_administration#SVG Greetings Menner - https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Menner ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: Future of libRSVG
Hi André, thank you for you open and honest words. That's sadly what I observed, too. So anybody who feels fit to step in as maintainer and bring back some life into the project could be sure of my gratitude! Am 18.01.2015 um 01:06 schrieb Andre Klapper: Speaking as a non-programmer GNOME volunteer (NOT with my Wikimedia hat on), librsvg consumers should evaluate more maintained (and hence also more secure and future-proof?) libraries for dealing with SVG. With your Wikimedia hat ON: Could you encourage the right people at WMF to either 1. Get a WMF developer to work (at least part time) on maintenance of libRSVG? This way we could at least get all the patches merged, that were already provided by volunteers over the last months/years. This would not only benefit Wikimedia projects but everybody using libRSVG! 2. Evaluate the usage of libRSVG in WMF projects (if there is no willingness to donate resources). Wikimedia projects might as well switch to a more maintained library then (as you suggest yourself). (Maybe it's even time to stop delivering pre-rendered PNGs and directly send the SVG file to browsers with sufficient support.) Regards, Eduard ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: Future of libRSVG
Hi Michael, On Fri, 2015-01-16 at 18:14 +0100, Michael Brenner wrote: I'm searching for information about the future of libRSVG. [...] As libRSVG is missing some major features defined by SVG standard there are some anoying pitfalls. Here I'm asking for a statement what you are planning to do about libRSVG. librsvg is pretty unmaintained these days: https://git.gnome.org/browse/librsvg/stats/?period=yofs=25 That also means bug reports patches receive little to no attention: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/browse.cgi?product=librsvg As far as I understand the situation, new librsvg (co-)maintainers are welcome (interested folks should contact this mailing list to potentially sort out Bugzilla and Git permissions), but be aware that likely there will be nobody answering questions while they ramp up. Speaking as a non-programmer GNOME volunteer (NOT with my Wikimedia hat on), librsvg consumers should evaluate more maintained (and hence also more secure and future-proof?) libraries for dealing with SVG. Cheers, andre -- Andre Klapper | ak...@gmx.net http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/ ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: Future of libRSVG
[offtopic; please remove d-d-l@ in case of answering this] Hi Eduard, On Sun, 2015-01-18 at 01:58 +0100, Eduard Braun wrote: With your Wikimedia hat ON: Could you encourage the right people at WMF You can encourage the target audience as much as I can in https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T40010 or on https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l . It's not that I have some special powers or such. :) Cheers, andre -- Andre Klapper | ak...@gmx.net http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/ ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Future of libRSVG
Hello Gnomers and especially ChPe! The front page of the libRSVG project¹ guided me to this mailing list. I'm searching for information about the future of libRSVG. Background of my interrest is that I'm a volunteering author of german languaged Wikipedia. The software MediaWiki used for reading and editing Wikipedia with your web browser requires² libRSVG to convert SVG vector graphics to browser friendly PNG. ¹ https://wiki.gnome.org/action/show/Projects/LibRsvg?action=showredirect=LibRsvg ² https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:SVG As libRSVG is missing some major features defined by SVG standard there are some anoying pitfalls. Here I'm asking for a statement what you are planning to do about libRSVG. And from the point of view of a Wikipedia volunteer, what might be done to improve this situation. (I'll reference this thread for discussions on Wikipedia) Greetings. Menner - https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Menner ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
