Re: Deprecating nautilus-sendto

[Simon McVittie via desktop-devel-list]

On Wed, 27 Feb 2019 at 13:56:10 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote:
> You could but I would not recommend using xdg-email if your application
> will be used outside of a Flatpak because it will end up running this
> code:
> https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xdg/xdg-utils/blob/master/scripts/xdg-email.in
> which might, or might not work. It's brittle and ugly.

Would it be useful to have a non-Flatpak-specific name for Flatpak's
portal-friendly reimplementation of xdg-email, and install it on
host systems, not just in Flatpak containers? Or to have some sort of
non-command-based API for creating an email that can do all the things
flatpak-xdg-utils can, perhaps in GIO?

(Vaguely precedent: I've packaged flatpak-xdg-utils for Debian 10, to
make it more straightforward to build Flatpak runtimes out of Debian 10+
packages. At the moment the flatpak-xdg-utils tools are installed into
/usr/libexec rather than onto the PATH, and containers that want them
are expected to create their own symlinks, but there's no reason there
couldn't be a symlink at /usr/bin/xdg-desktop-portal-email or something.)

smcv
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Re: Deprecating nautilus-sendto

[Carlos Soriano]

Created also
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-build-meta/merge_requests/246

On Wed, 27 Feb 2019 at 13:56, Bastien Nocera  wrote:

> Hey,
>
> 15 years ago, in another age, nautilus-sendto was created so that one
> could easily send files from nautilus via email. Then via email and
> Gaim. Via email, Gaim and Bluetooth. And Gajim. And now Pidgin not
> Gaim. And then Empathy and UPnP servers. And then just email again,
> because the UI was quite frankly absolutely awful.
>
> But nautilus-sendto doesn't work in a sandbox. And there's pretty
> similar but more capable code that can be run in xdg-desktop-portal-
> gtk, the gnome-ish Flatpak/Snap portal.
>
> So I would recommend that applications that use nautilus-sendto right
> now, start using the portal D-Bus API directly instead:
>
> https://github.com/flatpak/xdg-desktop-portal/blob/master/data/org.freedesktop.impl.portal.Email.xml
>
> This is an example of using said API:
> https://github.com/flatpak/flatpak-xdg-utils/blob/master/src/xdg-email.c
>
> You could but I would not recommend using xdg-email if your application
> will be used outside of a Flatpak because it will end up running this
> code:
>
> https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xdg/xdg-utils/blob/master/scripts/xdg-email.in
> which might, or might not work. It's brittle and ugly.
>
> Note the regressions though:
> - Some email clients are not as well supported in xdg-desktop-portal-gtk:
>   https://github.com/flatpak/xdg-desktop-portal-gtk/issues/187
>   https://github.com/flatpak/xdg-desktop-portal-gtk/issues/188
>   https://github.com/flatpak/xdg-desktop-portal-gtk/issues/189
> - There is no support for zipping files up before sending them. This
> was only used by nautilus, and nautilus can replace/enhance this by
> using its native archive support.
>
> Here are a number of issues I filed against applications that use
> nautilus-sendto:
>   https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/shotwell/issues/111
>   https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evince/issues/1091
>   https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/rhythmbox/issues/1695
>   https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/nautilus/issues/928
>   https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/yelp/issues/141
>   https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-commander/issues/83
>
> I'll have the code moved to the archives after the 3.32 release, at the
> start of the new development cycle:
> https://gitlab.gnome.org/Infrastructure/GitLab/issues/380
>
> Cheers
>
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