gnome-session api break
The gnome-session 2.13.92 changes the location in which it looks for autostart files from /etc/xdg/autostart (which is the xdg-spec-mandated location) to /usr/share/autostart (which is what kde used for a long time for something similar). While we generally agree that datadir is a better location for these files than sysconfdir, simply changing this api this late in the game, and moving away from the xdg spec, is a bad idea. We are a few days away from shipping FC5, and all our packages have been carefully patched to put their autostart files where gnome-session used to look for them, in /etc/xdg/autostart. IMO, changing this interface this late in the release cycle is not acceptable. If anything, Rodrigo could have made it so that /usr/share/autostart is consulted in addition to /etc/xdg/autostart. But he did not do that, although it was proposed in bug 330397. Matthias ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: gnome-session api break
On Tue, 2006-02-28 at 10:28 -0500, Matthias Clasen wrote: The gnome-session 2.13.92 changes the location in which it looks for autostart files from /etc/xdg/autostart (which is the xdg-spec-mandated location) to /usr/share/autostart (which is what kde used for a long time for something similar). it's $prefix/gnome/autostart, to not interfere with KDE. While we generally agree that datadir is a better location for these files than sysconfdir, simply changing this api this late in the game, and moving away from the xdg spec, is a bad idea. We are a few days away from shipping FC5, and all our packages have been carefully patched to put their autostart files where gnome-session used to look for them, in /etc/xdg/autostart. in GNOME CVS, only gnome-power-manager used this. And it is already patched. IMO, changing this interface this late in the release cycle is not acceptable. If anything, Rodrigo could have made it so that /usr/share/autostart is consulted in addition to /etc/xdg/autostart. But he did not do that, although it was proposed in bug 330397. again, since only 1 module in GNOME CVS uses it, why would we need to support the old directory? I can add that code if you want, but I see no point in doing it, since no applications use that directory (at least in GNOME CVS). -- Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: gnome-session api break
If /etc/xdg/autostart has been defined as a standard interface, it should be honoured as an interface. It is not a matter because GNOME module(s) uses it. There may be other distro making uses of that to do other autostart in their post-install scripts. With this chnages, these apps will no longer work from one release of GNOME to the next which really acceptable from the apps developers' point view. If our view of interfaces are only for GNOME modules only, we are creating a 'closed world' view and that is not good for GNOME. I am saying this not because I am using this interface, but really from common engineering sense. So I think the original interface should be honoured :) -Ghee Rodrigo Moya wrote: On Tue, 2006-02-28 at 10:28 -0500, Matthias Clasen wrote: The gnome-session 2.13.92 changes the location in which it looks for autostart files from /etc/xdg/autostart (which is the xdg-spec-mandated location) to /usr/share/autostart (which is what kde used for a long time for something similar). it's $prefix/gnome/autostart, to not interfere with KDE. While we generally agree that datadir is a better location for these files than sysconfdir, simply changing this api this late in the game, and moving away from the xdg spec, is a bad idea. We are a few days away from shipping FC5, and all our packages have been carefully patched to put their autostart files where gnome-session used to look for them, in /etc/xdg/autostart. in GNOME CVS, only gnome-power-manager used this. And it is already patched. IMO, changing this interface this late in the release cycle is not acceptable. If anything, Rodrigo could have made it so that /usr/share/autostart is consulted in addition to /etc/xdg/autostart. But he did not do that, although it was proposed in bug 330397. again, since only 1 module in GNOME CVS uses it, why would we need to support the old directory? I can add that code if you want, but I see no point in doing it, since no applications use that directory (at least in GNOME CVS). ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: gnome-session api break
Le mardi 28 février 2006 à 16:55 +0100, Rodrigo Moya a écrit : again, since only 1 module in GNOME CVS uses it, why would we need to support the old directory? I can add that code if you want, but I see no point in doing it, since no applications use that directory (at least in GNOME CVS). Hi, I think we should do the change and look for both place. That way it'll work for everybody, doesn't break current implementations for distribution using it (like FC5) and has the bonus to allow the system administrator to put some custom .desktop to /etc where the packages use /usr Cheers, Sebastien Bacher ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: gnome-session api break
On Tue, 2006-02-28 at 17:09 +0100, Sebastien Bacher wrote: Le mardi 28 février 2006 à 16:55 +0100, Rodrigo Moya a écrit : again, since only 1 module in GNOME CVS uses it, why would we need to support the old directory? I can add that code if you want, but I see no point in doing it, since no applications use that directory (at least in GNOME CVS). Hi, I think we should do the change and look for both place. That way it'll work for everybody, doesn't break current implementations for distribution using it (like FC5) and has the bonus to allow the system administrator to put some custom .desktop to /etc where the packages use /usr ok, I just wanted to know which apps used it to send patches myself, but anyway, I've just committed a change to support the old dir also. -- Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: gnome-session api break
On 2/28/06, Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2006-02-28 at 17:09 +0100, Sebastien Bacher wrote: Le mardi 28 février 2006 à 16:55 +0100, Rodrigo Moya a écrit : again, since only 1 module in GNOME CVS uses it, why would we need to support the old directory? I can add that code if you want, but I see no point in doing it, since no applications use that directory (at least in GNOME CVS). Hi, I think we should do the change and look for both place. That way it'll work for everybody, doesn't break current implementations for distribution using it (like FC5) and has the bonus to allow the system administrator to put some custom .desktop to /etc where the packages use /usr ok, I just wanted to know which apps used it to send patches myself, but anyway, I've just committed a change to support the old dir also. -- Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, thats appreciated. ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
