Re: new maintainer for gnome-dictionary?
On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 6:36 AM, Michael Catanzaro mcatanz...@gnome.org wrote: On Wed, 2014-10-08 at 08:59 +0200, Juan Rafael García Blanco wrote: I dare to propose myself for maintainer. I have almost no experience in maintenance (I maintain libchamplainmm, which doesn't count); Looks like you already have a git account and know how to handle releases, and have also developed a fairly complex GNOMEy app (even if it is a port), which is more than enough experience to handle gnome-dictionary. As long as you don't make it orange [1] or remove the ability to look up words, then we're good. Do you want to make a 3.14.1 release this weekend [2], to pick up the translation updates and the sidebar fix? Let me know if you have any questions. There is an implicit agreement that you will follow the GNOME release cycle as well. sri Michael [1] https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/calculator-orange/ [2] https://wiki.gnome.org/Schedule ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: new maintainer for gnome-dictionary?
Hi, I think gnome-dictionary 3.14.0 was released. It is tagged and a tarball exists, both in git and ftp. So I think 3.14.1 can be released alone. Regards, Juan. On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 11:52 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna sriram.ramkris...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 6:36 AM, Michael Catanzaro mcatanz...@gnome.org wrote: On Wed, 2014-10-08 at 08:59 +0200, Juan Rafael García Blanco wrote: I dare to propose myself for maintainer. I have almost no experience in maintenance (I maintain libchamplainmm, which doesn't count); Looks like you already have a git account and know how to handle releases, and have also developed a fairly complex GNOMEy app (even if it is a port), which is more than enough experience to handle gnome-dictionary. As long as you don't make it orange [1] or remove the ability to look up words, then we're good. Do you want to make a 3.14.1 release this weekend [2], to pick up the translation updates and the sidebar fix? Let me know if you have any questions. There is an implicit agreement that you will follow the GNOME release cycle as well. sri Michael [1] https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/calculator-orange/ [2] https://wiki.gnome.org/Schedule ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: new maintainer for gnome-dictionary?
Hi all, I added myself to the doap file. However, the commit was rejected while pushing it to the repo because the file is not valid. Apparently it is missing a 'description' property. Could I add one? I would copy the description from the debian package: GNOME Dictionary can look for the definition or translation of a word in existing databases over the internet. What do you think? It's quite short, but... Thank you. Best regards, Juan. On Thu, 2014-10-09 at 08:17 +0100, Ross Lagerwall wrote: On Wed, Oct 08, 2014 at 08:59:52AM +0200, Juan Rafael García Blanco wrote: Hi all, I dare to propose myself for maintainer. I have almost no experience in maintenance (I maintain libchamplainmm, which doesn't count); I have some experience in development (gnome-spaceduel, and some patches here and there; gtkmm and clutter-gtkmm do not count either). I assume you would most probably reject my candidancy; in case you don't please do not hesitate to contact me for more info. I think having a new maintainer with an interest in the module is certainly better than completely unmaintained module... Perhaps Sindhu S could spare some time if you need help? ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: new maintainer for gnome-dictionary?
On Wed, Oct 08, 2014 at 08:59:52AM +0200, Juan Rafael García Blanco wrote: Hi all, I dare to propose myself for maintainer. I have almost no experience in maintenance (I maintain libchamplainmm, which doesn't count); I have some experience in development (gnome-spaceduel, and some patches here and there; gtkmm and clutter-gtkmm do not count either). I assume you would most probably reject my candidancy; in case you don't please do not hesitate to contact me for more info. I think having a new maintainer with an interest in the module is certainly better than completely unmaintained module... Perhaps Sindhu S could spare some time if you need help? -- Ross Lagerwall ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: new maintainer for gnome-dictionary?
On Wed, 2014-10-08 at 08:59 +0200, Juan Rafael García Blanco wrote: I dare to propose myself for maintainer. I have almost no experience in maintenance (I maintain libchamplainmm, which doesn't count); Looks like you already have a git account and know how to handle releases, and have also developed a fairly complex GNOMEy app (even if it is a port), which is more than enough experience to handle gnome-dictionary. As long as you don't make it orange [1] or remove the ability to look up words, then we're good. Do you want to make a 3.14.1 release this weekend [2], to pick up the translation updates and the sidebar fix? Let me know if you have any questions. Michael [1] https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/calculator-orange/ [2] https://wiki.gnome.org/Schedule signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: new maintainer for gnome-dictionary?
Hi, Yes, I do! If you agree, I'll wait until Sunday to make that release. Right now I do not have any questions. I have never uploaded a tarball to the ftp, though. I will for sure let you know if I any question comes to my mind. Thank you! Regards, Juan. On Thu, 2014-10-09 at 08:36 -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote: On Wed, 2014-10-08 at 08:59 +0200, Juan Rafael García Blanco wrote: I dare to propose myself for maintainer. I have almost no experience in maintenance (I maintain libchamplainmm, which doesn't count); Looks like you already have a git account and know how to handle releases, and have also developed a fairly complex GNOMEy app (even if it is a port), which is more than enough experience to handle gnome-dictionary. As long as you don't make it orange [1] or remove the ability to look up words, then we're good. Do you want to make a 3.14.1 release this weekend [2], to pick up the translation updates and the sidebar fix? Let me know if you have any questions. Michael [1] https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/calculator-orange/ [2] https://wiki.gnome.org/Schedule ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: new maintainer for gnome-dictionary?
On Thu, 2014-10-09 at 22:33 +0200, Juan R. García Blanco wrote: Hi, Yes, I do! If you agree, I'll wait until Sunday to make that release. Right now I do not have any questions. I have never uploaded a tarball to the ftp, though. I will for sure let you know if I any question comes to my mind. Hm, I saw the libchamplainmm git tags and assumed you'd done tarball releases for them. It would be good to get tarballs out for those as well. I'll help walk you through your first release. Do you know if you have access to master.gnome.org for installing tarballs? You probably don't if you're not sure. We can continue this off list. Cheers, Michael signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: new maintainer for gnome-dictionary?
On Thu, Oct 09, 2014 at 08:36:41AM -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote: Do you want to make a 3.14.1 release this weekend [2], to pick up the translation updates and the sidebar fix? If no 3.14.0 version was released for gnome-dictionary, the version should be 3.14.0, not 3.14.1 (but it can be released at the same time as GNOME 3.14.1). Sébastien ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: new maintainer for gnome-dictionary?
Hi all, I dare to propose myself for maintainer. I have almost no experience in maintenance (I maintain libchamplainmm, which doesn't count); I have some experience in development (gnome-spaceduel, and some patches here and there; gtkmm and clutter-gtkmm do not count either). I assume you would most probably reject my candidancy; in case you don't please do not hesitate to contact me for more info. Regards, Juan. On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 6:19 PM, Nirbheek Chauhan nirbh...@gentoo.org wrote: On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 9:36 PM, Emmanuele Bassi eba...@gmail.com wrote: I think we should have some integration at a platform level — i.e. dictionary as a service — that apps and the shell can use to show word definitions. I *definitely* don't think we should integrate this stuff in the shell as a default; the shell is not the kitchen sink, and it cannot display large quantities of text. an app can provide a shell search provider fairly easily, and it can expose a DBus API that shows a bubble at given coordinates with the text definition for those apps opting in. Sure, I didn't mean that the Shell has to contain all the logic necessary for a dictionary app, I meant that we need better mechanisms/widgets for displaying such content than we currently have. For instance, the search provider is not the best place to show a dictionary definition because it's a context-switch (you can't see the original text while looking that up). I think this problem also exists for the new calculator support added to the shell. Right now, it's easier to use the Firefox search bar for calculations since it shows you the result in a drop-down list. -- ~Nirbheek Chauhan Gentoo GNOME+Mozilla Team ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
new maintainer for gnome-dictionary?
Would someone like to take up releasing gnome-dictionary from here on? I won't be able to make those releases. ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: new maintainer for gnome-dictionary?
thanks Sindhu for letting us know, and especially for your hard work on the Dictionary: it has been greatly appreciated, at least by me. :-) I'd like to mention that the Dictionary, at this point, should just be dropped from any release suite, due to its obvious limitations. while gnome-dictionary has served us well since GNOME 1.x days, I think it's time to let it go; it's just not going to be useful for anybody looking for an *actual* dictionary. any and all replacements are actually worse, and the only half-decent, maintained, and free (as in beer) dictionary source we can use is Wiktionary, for which we could simply ship an epiphany-based Web app anyway. ciao, Emmanuele. On 22 September 2014 19:24, Sindhu S sind...@live.in wrote: Would someone like to take up releasing gnome-dictionary from here on? I won't be able to make those releases. ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list -- http://www.bassi.io [@] ebassi [@gmail.com] ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: new maintainer for gnome-dictionary?
On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 8:42 PM, Emmanuele Bassi eba...@gmail.com wrote: anybody looking for an *actual* dictionary. any and all replacements are actually worse, and the only half-decent, maintained, and free (as in beer) dictionary source we can use is Wiktionary, for which we could simply ship an epiphany-based Web app anyway. If anyone wants to work on a replacement dictionary UI, I'd vote for something similar to spotlight integrated into GNOME Shell or spell-integration in GTK+ rather than a separate app. The dictionary integration in the Kindle, iOS, and OS X is much more useful than a discrete app (saves a context switch, less effort, etc). I do agree that Wiktionary is probably the best source we have. A tiny library wrapper would suffice to make it available to applications! -- ~Nirbheek Chauhan ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: new maintainer for gnome-dictionary?
On Mon, 2014-10-06 at 20:57 +0530, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: I do agree that Wiktionary is probably the best source we have. Wiktionary has a very limited API so you cannot easily use it as a translation dictionary, for example. See http://en.wiktionary.org/w/api.php and http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2770547/how-to-retrieve-wiktionary-word-content Just saying. andre -- Andre Klapper | ak...@gmx.net http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/ ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: new maintainer for gnome-dictionary?
On 10/06/2014 11:40 AM, Andre Klapper wrote: On Mon, 2014-10-06 at 20:57 +0530, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: I do agree that Wiktionary is probably the best source we have. Wiktionary has a very limited API so you cannot easily use it as a translation dictionary, for example. The android app QuickDic uses Wikitionary for translations: https://code.google.com/p/quickdic-dictionary/ I haven't taken a look at how it actually does it though. ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: new maintainer for gnome-dictionary?
hi; On 6 October 2014 16:27, Nirbheek Chauhan nirbh...@gentoo.org wrote: On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 8:42 PM, Emmanuele Bassi eba...@gmail.com wrote: anybody looking for an *actual* dictionary. any and all replacements are actually worse, and the only half-decent, maintained, and free (as in beer) dictionary source we can use is Wiktionary, for which we could simply ship an epiphany-based Web app anyway. If anyone wants to work on a replacement dictionary UI, I'd vote for something similar to spotlight integrated into GNOME Shell or spell-integration in GTK+ rather than a separate app. The dictionary integration in the Kindle, iOS, and OS X is much more useful than a discrete app (saves a context switch, less effort, etc). I think we should have some integration at a platform level — i.e. dictionary as a service — that apps and the shell can use to show word definitions. I *definitely* don't think we should integrate this stuff in the shell as a default; the shell is not the kitchen sink, and it cannot display large quantities of text. an app can provide a shell search provider fairly easily, and it can expose a DBus API that shows a bubble at given coordinates with the text definition for those apps opting in. ciao, Emmanuele. -- http://www.bassi.io [@] ebassi [@gmail.com] ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: new maintainer for gnome-dictionary?
On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 9:36 PM, Emmanuele Bassi eba...@gmail.com wrote: I think we should have some integration at a platform level — i.e. dictionary as a service — that apps and the shell can use to show word definitions. I *definitely* don't think we should integrate this stuff in the shell as a default; the shell is not the kitchen sink, and it cannot display large quantities of text. an app can provide a shell search provider fairly easily, and it can expose a DBus API that shows a bubble at given coordinates with the text definition for those apps opting in. Sure, I didn't mean that the Shell has to contain all the logic necessary for a dictionary app, I meant that we need better mechanisms/widgets for displaying such content than we currently have. For instance, the search provider is not the best place to show a dictionary definition because it's a context-switch (you can't see the original text while looking that up). I think this problem also exists for the new calculator support added to the shell. Right now, it's easier to use the Firefox search bar for calculations since it shows you the result in a drop-down list. -- ~Nirbheek Chauhan Gentoo GNOME+Mozilla Team ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
