[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1077559] Re: Scroll Bar Width is Too Narrow - Uneasily Adjustable
** Package changed: firefox (Ubuntu) => ubuntu-themes (Ubuntu) ** Changed in: ubuntu-themes (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided => Wishlist -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to firefox in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1077559 Title: Scroll Bar Width is Too Narrow - Uneasily Adjustable Status in The Mozilla Firefox Browser: Invalid Status in “ubuntu-themes” package in Ubuntu: New Bug description: I've been using the Internet since 1993 before and during the first year browsers came out. Back then the scroll bars seemed as wide as your finger. As time has gone on, screen resolutions have continue to increase, but each time this happens the browsers scroll bar gets more and more narrow on the screen. It seems to maintain its pixel width, but at higher resolutions its physical width continues to narrow. At this point, I find myself wanting to enjoy higher resolutions, but at the same time, I want things to be bigger at those higher resolutions. It has finally gotten to the point, that I find the width of scroll bars too narrow, requiring too fine-grained of a mouse-control-effort for simple web page navigation, such as: 1) Clicking the scroll-bar's up button 2) Clicking the scroll-bar's down button 3) Dragging the scroll-bar's slider. Although a scroll-wheel is a helpful workaround, it remains an issue that the scroll-bar itself continues to require ever increasing fine- grained-effort to use. It is finally gotten to the point that I consider it a cumbersome control. I suggest doubling its size by default in future updates and releases of Firefox. Or at lease making the scroll-bar easy to scale-adjust its size (without the user having to understand CSS style sheet modification). Perhaps it would be good to make the scroll-bar right- clickable and providing a "Adjust Width" option in its context menu. Many desktop applications could learn a thing or two from touch screen interfaces. Notice how bluntly (widely) they make their buttons and selectable options. They do it out of necessity because they know a person is going to be using their finger to select that option. However, even with a mouse, the bigger something is, the easier it is to select. Just because a mouse-cursor comes to a fine point, doesn't mean that controls ought to be barely bigger than that point. I believe we have finally crossed a threshold. While before, we've always been trying to maximize the browser's screen real estate, now we've got plenty of width at higher resolutions, and it is time to increase the width of scrollbars and make them require less fine- grained-mouse-control-effort to use. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 12.10 Package: firefox 16.0.2+build1-0ubuntu0.12.10.1 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.5.0-18.29-generic 3.5.7 Uname: Linux 3.5.0-18-generic x86_64 AddonCompatCheckDisabled: False ApportVersion: 2.6.1-0ubuntu6 Architecture: amd64 AudioDevicesInUse: USERPID ACCESS COMMAND /dev/snd/controlC2: lonnie 2197 F pulseaudio /dev/snd/controlC0: lonnie 2197 F pulseaudio BuildID: 20121025212310 CRDA: Error: command ['iw', 'reg', 'get'] failed with exit code 1: nl80211 not found. Channel: Unavailable Date: Sat Nov 10 22:42:45 2012 ForcedLayersAccel: False IfupdownConfig: # interfaces(5) file used by ifup(8) and ifdown(8) auto lo iface lo inet loopback InstallationDate: Installed on 2012-10-19 (23 days ago) InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 12.10 "Quantal Quetzal" - Release amd64 (20121017.5) IpRoute: default via 192.168.77.1 dev eth0 proto static 169.254.0.0/16 dev eth0 scope link metric 1000 192.168.77.0/24 dev eth0 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.77.246 metric 1 IwConfig: eth0 no wireless extensions. lono wireless extensions. MarkForUpload: True PrefSources: prefs.js [Profile]/extensions/{8f8fe09b-0bd3-4470-bc1b-8cad42b8203a}/defaults/preferences/prefs.js [Profile]/extensions/{b9db16a4-6edc-47ec-a1f4-b86292ed211d}/defaults/preferences/prefs-dwhelper.js ProcEnviron: TERM=xterm PATH=(custom, no user) XDG_RUNTIME_DIR= LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash Profiles: Profile0 (Default) - LastVersion=16.0.2/20121025212310 (In use) RelatedPackageVersions: icedtea-7-plugin 1.3-1ubuntu1.1 google-talkplugin 3.10.2.0-1 rhythmbox-mozilla 2.97-1ubuntu5 totem-mozilla 3.4.3-0ubuntu4 RfKill: RunningIncompatibleAddons: False SourcePackage: firefox UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install) WifiSyslog: dmi.bios.date: 11/26/2008 dmi.bios.vendor: Dell Inc. dmi.bios.version: A04 dmi.board.name: 0P792H dmi.board.vendor: Dell Inc. dmi.board.version: A04 dmi.chassis.type: 8 dmi.chassis.vendor: Dell Inc. dmi.chassis.version: A04 dmi.modalias: dmi:bvnDellInc.:bvrA04:bd11
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1077559] Re: Scroll Bar Width is Too Narrow - Uneasily Adjustable
** Changed in: firefox Status: New => Invalid -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to firefox in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1077559 Title: Scroll Bar Width is Too Narrow - Uneasily Adjustable Status in The Mozilla Firefox Browser: Invalid Status in “firefox” package in Ubuntu: New Bug description: I've been using the Internet since 1993 before and during the first year browsers came out. Back then the scroll bars seemed as wide as your finger. As time has gone on, screen resolutions have continue to increase, but each time this happens the browsers scroll bar gets more and more narrow on the screen. It seems to maintain its pixel width, but at higher resolutions its physical width continues to narrow. At this point, I find myself wanting to enjoy higher resolutions, but at the same time, I want things to be bigger at those higher resolutions. It has finally gotten to the point, that I find the width of scroll bars too narrow, requiring too fine-grained of a mouse-control-effort for simple web page navigation, such as: 1) Clicking the scroll-bar's up button 2) Clicking the scroll-bar's down button 3) Dragging the scroll-bar's slider. Although a scroll-wheel is a helpful workaround, it remains an issue that the scroll-bar itself continues to require ever increasing fine- grained-effort to use. It is finally gotten to the point that I consider it a cumbersome control. I suggest doubling its size by default in future updates and releases of Firefox. Or at lease making the scroll-bar easy to scale-adjust its size (without the user having to understand CSS style sheet modification). Perhaps it would be good to make the scroll-bar right- clickable and providing a "Adjust Width" option in its context menu. Many desktop applications could learn a thing or two from touch screen interfaces. Notice how bluntly (widely) they make their buttons and selectable options. They do it out of necessity because they know a person is going to be using their finger to select that option. However, even with a mouse, the bigger something is, the easier it is to select. Just because a mouse-cursor comes to a fine point, doesn't mean that controls ought to be barely bigger than that point. I believe we have finally crossed a threshold. While before, we've always been trying to maximize the browser's screen real estate, now we've got plenty of width at higher resolutions, and it is time to increase the width of scrollbars and make them require less fine- grained-mouse-control-effort to use. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 12.10 Package: firefox 16.0.2+build1-0ubuntu0.12.10.1 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.5.0-18.29-generic 3.5.7 Uname: Linux 3.5.0-18-generic x86_64 AddonCompatCheckDisabled: False ApportVersion: 2.6.1-0ubuntu6 Architecture: amd64 AudioDevicesInUse: USERPID ACCESS COMMAND /dev/snd/controlC2: lonnie 2197 F pulseaudio /dev/snd/controlC0: lonnie 2197 F pulseaudio BuildID: 20121025212310 CRDA: Error: command ['iw', 'reg', 'get'] failed with exit code 1: nl80211 not found. Channel: Unavailable Date: Sat Nov 10 22:42:45 2012 ForcedLayersAccel: False IfupdownConfig: # interfaces(5) file used by ifup(8) and ifdown(8) auto lo iface lo inet loopback InstallationDate: Installed on 2012-10-19 (23 days ago) InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 12.10 "Quantal Quetzal" - Release amd64 (20121017.5) IpRoute: default via 192.168.77.1 dev eth0 proto static 169.254.0.0/16 dev eth0 scope link metric 1000 192.168.77.0/24 dev eth0 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.77.246 metric 1 IwConfig: eth0 no wireless extensions. lono wireless extensions. MarkForUpload: True PrefSources: prefs.js [Profile]/extensions/{8f8fe09b-0bd3-4470-bc1b-8cad42b8203a}/defaults/preferences/prefs.js [Profile]/extensions/{b9db16a4-6edc-47ec-a1f4-b86292ed211d}/defaults/preferences/prefs-dwhelper.js ProcEnviron: TERM=xterm PATH=(custom, no user) XDG_RUNTIME_DIR= LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash Profiles: Profile0 (Default) - LastVersion=16.0.2/20121025212310 (In use) RelatedPackageVersions: icedtea-7-plugin 1.3-1ubuntu1.1 google-talkplugin 3.10.2.0-1 rhythmbox-mozilla 2.97-1ubuntu5 totem-mozilla 3.4.3-0ubuntu4 RfKill: RunningIncompatibleAddons: False SourcePackage: firefox UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install) WifiSyslog: dmi.bios.date: 11/26/2008 dmi.bios.vendor: Dell Inc. dmi.bios.version: A04 dmi.board.name: 0P792H dmi.board.vendor: Dell Inc. dmi.board.version: A04 dmi.chassis.type: 8 dmi.chassis.vendor: Dell Inc. dmi.chassis.version: A04 dmi.modalias: dmi:bvnDellInc.:bvrA04:bd11/26/2008:svnDellInc.:pnStudio1737:pvrA04:rvnDellInc.:rn0P792H:rvrA04:cvnDellInc.:ct8:cvrA04:
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1077559]
Resolved per whiteboard and Comment 7 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to firefox in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1077559 Title: Scroll Bar Width is Too Narrow - Uneasily Adjustable Status in The Mozilla Firefox Browser: Invalid Status in “firefox” package in Ubuntu: New Bug description: I've been using the Internet since 1993 before and during the first year browsers came out. Back then the scroll bars seemed as wide as your finger. As time has gone on, screen resolutions have continue to increase, but each time this happens the browsers scroll bar gets more and more narrow on the screen. It seems to maintain its pixel width, but at higher resolutions its physical width continues to narrow. At this point, I find myself wanting to enjoy higher resolutions, but at the same time, I want things to be bigger at those higher resolutions. It has finally gotten to the point, that I find the width of scroll bars too narrow, requiring too fine-grained of a mouse-control-effort for simple web page navigation, such as: 1) Clicking the scroll-bar's up button 2) Clicking the scroll-bar's down button 3) Dragging the scroll-bar's slider. Although a scroll-wheel is a helpful workaround, it remains an issue that the scroll-bar itself continues to require ever increasing fine- grained-effort to use. It is finally gotten to the point that I consider it a cumbersome control. I suggest doubling its size by default in future updates and releases of Firefox. Or at lease making the scroll-bar easy to scale-adjust its size (without the user having to understand CSS style sheet modification). Perhaps it would be good to make the scroll-bar right- clickable and providing a "Adjust Width" option in its context menu. Many desktop applications could learn a thing or two from touch screen interfaces. Notice how bluntly (widely) they make their buttons and selectable options. They do it out of necessity because they know a person is going to be using their finger to select that option. However, even with a mouse, the bigger something is, the easier it is to select. Just because a mouse-cursor comes to a fine point, doesn't mean that controls ought to be barely bigger than that point. I believe we have finally crossed a threshold. While before, we've always been trying to maximize the browser's screen real estate, now we've got plenty of width at higher resolutions, and it is time to increase the width of scrollbars and make them require less fine- grained-mouse-control-effort to use. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 12.10 Package: firefox 16.0.2+build1-0ubuntu0.12.10.1 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.5.0-18.29-generic 3.5.7 Uname: Linux 3.5.0-18-generic x86_64 AddonCompatCheckDisabled: False ApportVersion: 2.6.1-0ubuntu6 Architecture: amd64 AudioDevicesInUse: USERPID ACCESS COMMAND /dev/snd/controlC2: lonnie 2197 F pulseaudio /dev/snd/controlC0: lonnie 2197 F pulseaudio BuildID: 20121025212310 CRDA: Error: command ['iw', 'reg', 'get'] failed with exit code 1: nl80211 not found. Channel: Unavailable Date: Sat Nov 10 22:42:45 2012 ForcedLayersAccel: False IfupdownConfig: # interfaces(5) file used by ifup(8) and ifdown(8) auto lo iface lo inet loopback InstallationDate: Installed on 2012-10-19 (23 days ago) InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 12.10 "Quantal Quetzal" - Release amd64 (20121017.5) IpRoute: default via 192.168.77.1 dev eth0 proto static 169.254.0.0/16 dev eth0 scope link metric 1000 192.168.77.0/24 dev eth0 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.77.246 metric 1 IwConfig: eth0 no wireless extensions. lono wireless extensions. MarkForUpload: True PrefSources: prefs.js [Profile]/extensions/{8f8fe09b-0bd3-4470-bc1b-8cad42b8203a}/defaults/preferences/prefs.js [Profile]/extensions/{b9db16a4-6edc-47ec-a1f4-b86292ed211d}/defaults/preferences/prefs-dwhelper.js ProcEnviron: TERM=xterm PATH=(custom, no user) XDG_RUNTIME_DIR= LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash Profiles: Profile0 (Default) - LastVersion=16.0.2/20121025212310 (In use) RelatedPackageVersions: icedtea-7-plugin 1.3-1ubuntu1.1 google-talkplugin 3.10.2.0-1 rhythmbox-mozilla 2.97-1ubuntu5 totem-mozilla 3.4.3-0ubuntu4 RfKill: RunningIncompatibleAddons: False SourcePackage: firefox UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install) WifiSyslog: dmi.bios.date: 11/26/2008 dmi.bios.vendor: Dell Inc. dmi.bios.version: A04 dmi.board.name: 0P792H dmi.board.vendor: Dell Inc. dmi.board.version: A04 dmi.chassis.type: 8 dmi.chassis.vendor: Dell Inc. dmi.chassis.version: A04 dmi.modalias: dmi:bvnDellInc.:bvrA04:bd11/26/2008:svnDellInc.:pnStudio1737:pvrA04:rvnDellInc.:rn0P792H:rvrA04:cvnDellInc.:ct8:cvrA04: dmi.product.
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1077559]
Thanks for the help, Cork. My OS has no gui for modifying the width, but that link you gave directed me to a text file where I could do it. I'm satisfied. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to firefox in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1077559 Title: Scroll Bar Width is Too Narrow - Uneasily Adjustable Status in The Mozilla Firefox Browser: New Status in “firefox” package in Ubuntu: New Bug description: I've been using the Internet since 1993 before and during the first year browsers came out. Back then the scroll bars seemed as wide as your finger. As time has gone on, screen resolutions have continue to increase, but each time this happens the browsers scroll bar gets more and more narrow on the screen. It seems to maintain its pixel width, but at higher resolutions its physical width continues to narrow. At this point, I find myself wanting to enjoy higher resolutions, but at the same time, I want things to be bigger at those higher resolutions. It has finally gotten to the point, that I find the width of scroll bars too narrow, requiring too fine-grained of a mouse-control-effort for simple web page navigation, such as: 1) Clicking the scroll-bar's up button 2) Clicking the scroll-bar's down button 3) Dragging the scroll-bar's slider. Although a scroll-wheel is a helpful workaround, it remains an issue that the scroll-bar itself continues to require ever increasing fine- grained-effort to use. It is finally gotten to the point that I consider it a cumbersome control. I suggest doubling its size by default in future updates and releases of Firefox. Or at lease making the scroll-bar easy to scale-adjust its size (without the user having to understand CSS style sheet modification). Perhaps it would be good to make the scroll-bar right- clickable and providing a "Adjust Width" option in its context menu. Many desktop applications could learn a thing or two from touch screen interfaces. Notice how bluntly (widely) they make their buttons and selectable options. They do it out of necessity because they know a person is going to be using their finger to select that option. However, even with a mouse, the bigger something is, the easier it is to select. Just because a mouse-cursor comes to a fine point, doesn't mean that controls ought to be barely bigger than that point. I believe we have finally crossed a threshold. While before, we've always been trying to maximize the browser's screen real estate, now we've got plenty of width at higher resolutions, and it is time to increase the width of scrollbars and make them require less fine- grained-mouse-control-effort to use. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 12.10 Package: firefox 16.0.2+build1-0ubuntu0.12.10.1 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.5.0-18.29-generic 3.5.7 Uname: Linux 3.5.0-18-generic x86_64 AddonCompatCheckDisabled: False ApportVersion: 2.6.1-0ubuntu6 Architecture: amd64 AudioDevicesInUse: USERPID ACCESS COMMAND /dev/snd/controlC2: lonnie 2197 F pulseaudio /dev/snd/controlC0: lonnie 2197 F pulseaudio BuildID: 20121025212310 CRDA: Error: command ['iw', 'reg', 'get'] failed with exit code 1: nl80211 not found. Channel: Unavailable Date: Sat Nov 10 22:42:45 2012 ForcedLayersAccel: False IfupdownConfig: # interfaces(5) file used by ifup(8) and ifdown(8) auto lo iface lo inet loopback InstallationDate: Installed on 2012-10-19 (23 days ago) InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 12.10 "Quantal Quetzal" - Release amd64 (20121017.5) IpRoute: default via 192.168.77.1 dev eth0 proto static 169.254.0.0/16 dev eth0 scope link metric 1000 192.168.77.0/24 dev eth0 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.77.246 metric 1 IwConfig: eth0 no wireless extensions. lono wireless extensions. MarkForUpload: True PrefSources: prefs.js [Profile]/extensions/{8f8fe09b-0bd3-4470-bc1b-8cad42b8203a}/defaults/preferences/prefs.js [Profile]/extensions/{b9db16a4-6edc-47ec-a1f4-b86292ed211d}/defaults/preferences/prefs-dwhelper.js ProcEnviron: TERM=xterm PATH=(custom, no user) XDG_RUNTIME_DIR= LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash Profiles: Profile0 (Default) - LastVersion=16.0.2/20121025212310 (In use) RelatedPackageVersions: icedtea-7-plugin 1.3-1ubuntu1.1 google-talkplugin 3.10.2.0-1 rhythmbox-mozilla 2.97-1ubuntu5 totem-mozilla 3.4.3-0ubuntu4 RfKill: RunningIncompatibleAddons: False SourcePackage: firefox UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install) WifiSyslog: dmi.bios.date: 11/26/2008 dmi.bios.vendor: Dell Inc. dmi.bios.version: A04 dmi.board.name: 0P792H dmi.board.vendor: Dell Inc. dmi.board.version: A04 dmi.chassis.type: 8 dmi.chassis.vendor: Dell Inc. dmi.chassis.version: A04 dmi.modalias: dmi:bvnDellInc.:bvrA0
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1077559]
You can modify the gtk theme to your needs. http://askubuntu.com/questions/94147/how-do-i-make-the-scrollbars-wider -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to firefox in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1077559 Title: Scroll Bar Width is Too Narrow - Uneasily Adjustable Status in The Mozilla Firefox Browser: New Status in “firefox” package in Ubuntu: New Bug description: I've been using the Internet since 1993 before and during the first year browsers came out. Back then the scroll bars seemed as wide as your finger. As time has gone on, screen resolutions have continue to increase, but each time this happens the browsers scroll bar gets more and more narrow on the screen. It seems to maintain its pixel width, but at higher resolutions its physical width continues to narrow. At this point, I find myself wanting to enjoy higher resolutions, but at the same time, I want things to be bigger at those higher resolutions. It has finally gotten to the point, that I find the width of scroll bars too narrow, requiring too fine-grained of a mouse-control-effort for simple web page navigation, such as: 1) Clicking the scroll-bar's up button 2) Clicking the scroll-bar's down button 3) Dragging the scroll-bar's slider. Although a scroll-wheel is a helpful workaround, it remains an issue that the scroll-bar itself continues to require ever increasing fine- grained-effort to use. It is finally gotten to the point that I consider it a cumbersome control. I suggest doubling its size by default in future updates and releases of Firefox. Or at lease making the scroll-bar easy to scale-adjust its size (without the user having to understand CSS style sheet modification). Perhaps it would be good to make the scroll-bar right- clickable and providing a "Adjust Width" option in its context menu. Many desktop applications could learn a thing or two from touch screen interfaces. Notice how bluntly (widely) they make their buttons and selectable options. They do it out of necessity because they know a person is going to be using their finger to select that option. However, even with a mouse, the bigger something is, the easier it is to select. Just because a mouse-cursor comes to a fine point, doesn't mean that controls ought to be barely bigger than that point. I believe we have finally crossed a threshold. While before, we've always been trying to maximize the browser's screen real estate, now we've got plenty of width at higher resolutions, and it is time to increase the width of scrollbars and make them require less fine- grained-mouse-control-effort to use. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 12.10 Package: firefox 16.0.2+build1-0ubuntu0.12.10.1 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.5.0-18.29-generic 3.5.7 Uname: Linux 3.5.0-18-generic x86_64 AddonCompatCheckDisabled: False ApportVersion: 2.6.1-0ubuntu6 Architecture: amd64 AudioDevicesInUse: USERPID ACCESS COMMAND /dev/snd/controlC2: lonnie 2197 F pulseaudio /dev/snd/controlC0: lonnie 2197 F pulseaudio BuildID: 20121025212310 CRDA: Error: command ['iw', 'reg', 'get'] failed with exit code 1: nl80211 not found. Channel: Unavailable Date: Sat Nov 10 22:42:45 2012 ForcedLayersAccel: False IfupdownConfig: # interfaces(5) file used by ifup(8) and ifdown(8) auto lo iface lo inet loopback InstallationDate: Installed on 2012-10-19 (23 days ago) InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 12.10 "Quantal Quetzal" - Release amd64 (20121017.5) IpRoute: default via 192.168.77.1 dev eth0 proto static 169.254.0.0/16 dev eth0 scope link metric 1000 192.168.77.0/24 dev eth0 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.77.246 metric 1 IwConfig: eth0 no wireless extensions. lono wireless extensions. MarkForUpload: True PrefSources: prefs.js [Profile]/extensions/{8f8fe09b-0bd3-4470-bc1b-8cad42b8203a}/defaults/preferences/prefs.js [Profile]/extensions/{b9db16a4-6edc-47ec-a1f4-b86292ed211d}/defaults/preferences/prefs-dwhelper.js ProcEnviron: TERM=xterm PATH=(custom, no user) XDG_RUNTIME_DIR= LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash Profiles: Profile0 (Default) - LastVersion=16.0.2/20121025212310 (In use) RelatedPackageVersions: icedtea-7-plugin 1.3-1ubuntu1.1 google-talkplugin 3.10.2.0-1 rhythmbox-mozilla 2.97-1ubuntu5 totem-mozilla 3.4.3-0ubuntu4 RfKill: RunningIncompatibleAddons: False SourcePackage: firefox UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install) WifiSyslog: dmi.bios.date: 11/26/2008 dmi.bios.vendor: Dell Inc. dmi.bios.version: A04 dmi.board.name: 0P792H dmi.board.vendor: Dell Inc. dmi.board.version: A04 dmi.chassis.type: 8 dmi.chassis.vendor: Dell Inc. dmi.chassis.version: A04 dmi.modalias: dmi:bvnDellInc.:bvrA04:bd11/26/2008:svnDellInc.:pnStudio173
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1077559]
My OS doesn't provide themes that will adjust scroll bar widths (Ubuntu 12.10). -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to firefox in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1077559 Title: Scroll Bar Width is Too Narrow - Uneasily Adjustable Status in The Mozilla Firefox Browser: New Status in “firefox” package in Ubuntu: New Bug description: I've been using the Internet since 1993 before and during the first year browsers came out. Back then the scroll bars seemed as wide as your finger. As time has gone on, screen resolutions have continue to increase, but each time this happens the browsers scroll bar gets more and more narrow on the screen. It seems to maintain its pixel width, but at higher resolutions its physical width continues to narrow. At this point, I find myself wanting to enjoy higher resolutions, but at the same time, I want things to be bigger at those higher resolutions. It has finally gotten to the point, that I find the width of scroll bars too narrow, requiring too fine-grained of a mouse-control-effort for simple web page navigation, such as: 1) Clicking the scroll-bar's up button 2) Clicking the scroll-bar's down button 3) Dragging the scroll-bar's slider. Although a scroll-wheel is a helpful workaround, it remains an issue that the scroll-bar itself continues to require ever increasing fine- grained-effort to use. It is finally gotten to the point that I consider it a cumbersome control. I suggest doubling its size by default in future updates and releases of Firefox. Or at lease making the scroll-bar easy to scale-adjust its size (without the user having to understand CSS style sheet modification). Perhaps it would be good to make the scroll-bar right- clickable and providing a "Adjust Width" option in its context menu. Many desktop applications could learn a thing or two from touch screen interfaces. Notice how bluntly (widely) they make their buttons and selectable options. They do it out of necessity because they know a person is going to be using their finger to select that option. However, even with a mouse, the bigger something is, the easier it is to select. Just because a mouse-cursor comes to a fine point, doesn't mean that controls ought to be barely bigger than that point. I believe we have finally crossed a threshold. While before, we've always been trying to maximize the browser's screen real estate, now we've got plenty of width at higher resolutions, and it is time to increase the width of scrollbars and make them require less fine- grained-mouse-control-effort to use. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 12.10 Package: firefox 16.0.2+build1-0ubuntu0.12.10.1 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.5.0-18.29-generic 3.5.7 Uname: Linux 3.5.0-18-generic x86_64 AddonCompatCheckDisabled: False ApportVersion: 2.6.1-0ubuntu6 Architecture: amd64 AudioDevicesInUse: USERPID ACCESS COMMAND /dev/snd/controlC2: lonnie 2197 F pulseaudio /dev/snd/controlC0: lonnie 2197 F pulseaudio BuildID: 20121025212310 CRDA: Error: command ['iw', 'reg', 'get'] failed with exit code 1: nl80211 not found. Channel: Unavailable Date: Sat Nov 10 22:42:45 2012 ForcedLayersAccel: False IfupdownConfig: # interfaces(5) file used by ifup(8) and ifdown(8) auto lo iface lo inet loopback InstallationDate: Installed on 2012-10-19 (23 days ago) InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 12.10 "Quantal Quetzal" - Release amd64 (20121017.5) IpRoute: default via 192.168.77.1 dev eth0 proto static 169.254.0.0/16 dev eth0 scope link metric 1000 192.168.77.0/24 dev eth0 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.77.246 metric 1 IwConfig: eth0 no wireless extensions. lono wireless extensions. MarkForUpload: True PrefSources: prefs.js [Profile]/extensions/{8f8fe09b-0bd3-4470-bc1b-8cad42b8203a}/defaults/preferences/prefs.js [Profile]/extensions/{b9db16a4-6edc-47ec-a1f4-b86292ed211d}/defaults/preferences/prefs-dwhelper.js ProcEnviron: TERM=xterm PATH=(custom, no user) XDG_RUNTIME_DIR= LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash Profiles: Profile0 (Default) - LastVersion=16.0.2/20121025212310 (In use) RelatedPackageVersions: icedtea-7-plugin 1.3-1ubuntu1.1 google-talkplugin 3.10.2.0-1 rhythmbox-mozilla 2.97-1ubuntu5 totem-mozilla 3.4.3-0ubuntu4 RfKill: RunningIncompatibleAddons: False SourcePackage: firefox UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install) WifiSyslog: dmi.bios.date: 11/26/2008 dmi.bios.vendor: Dell Inc. dmi.bios.version: A04 dmi.board.name: 0P792H dmi.board.vendor: Dell Inc. dmi.board.version: A04 dmi.chassis.type: 8 dmi.chassis.vendor: Dell Inc. dmi.chassis.version: A04 dmi.modalias: dmi:bvnDellInc.:bvrA04:bd11/26/2008:svnDellInc.:pnStudio1737:pvrA04:rvnDellInc.:rn0P792H:rvrA04:
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1077559]
hey Lonnie, are you there? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to firefox in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1077559 Title: Scroll Bar Width is Too Narrow - Uneasily Adjustable Status in The Mozilla Firefox Browser: New Status in “firefox” package in Ubuntu: New Bug description: I've been using the Internet since 1993 before and during the first year browsers came out. Back then the scroll bars seemed as wide as your finger. As time has gone on, screen resolutions have continue to increase, but each time this happens the browsers scroll bar gets more and more narrow on the screen. It seems to maintain its pixel width, but at higher resolutions its physical width continues to narrow. At this point, I find myself wanting to enjoy higher resolutions, but at the same time, I want things to be bigger at those higher resolutions. It has finally gotten to the point, that I find the width of scroll bars too narrow, requiring too fine-grained of a mouse-control-effort for simple web page navigation, such as: 1) Clicking the scroll-bar's up button 2) Clicking the scroll-bar's down button 3) Dragging the scroll-bar's slider. Although a scroll-wheel is a helpful workaround, it remains an issue that the scroll-bar itself continues to require ever increasing fine- grained-effort to use. It is finally gotten to the point that I consider it a cumbersome control. I suggest doubling its size by default in future updates and releases of Firefox. Or at lease making the scroll-bar easy to scale-adjust its size (without the user having to understand CSS style sheet modification). Perhaps it would be good to make the scroll-bar right- clickable and providing a "Adjust Width" option in its context menu. Many desktop applications could learn a thing or two from touch screen interfaces. Notice how bluntly (widely) they make their buttons and selectable options. They do it out of necessity because they know a person is going to be using their finger to select that option. However, even with a mouse, the bigger something is, the easier it is to select. Just because a mouse-cursor comes to a fine point, doesn't mean that controls ought to be barely bigger than that point. I believe we have finally crossed a threshold. While before, we've always been trying to maximize the browser's screen real estate, now we've got plenty of width at higher resolutions, and it is time to increase the width of scrollbars and make them require less fine- grained-mouse-control-effort to use. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 12.10 Package: firefox 16.0.2+build1-0ubuntu0.12.10.1 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.5.0-18.29-generic 3.5.7 Uname: Linux 3.5.0-18-generic x86_64 AddonCompatCheckDisabled: False ApportVersion: 2.6.1-0ubuntu6 Architecture: amd64 AudioDevicesInUse: USERPID ACCESS COMMAND /dev/snd/controlC2: lonnie 2197 F pulseaudio /dev/snd/controlC0: lonnie 2197 F pulseaudio BuildID: 20121025212310 CRDA: Error: command ['iw', 'reg', 'get'] failed with exit code 1: nl80211 not found. Channel: Unavailable Date: Sat Nov 10 22:42:45 2012 ForcedLayersAccel: False IfupdownConfig: # interfaces(5) file used by ifup(8) and ifdown(8) auto lo iface lo inet loopback InstallationDate: Installed on 2012-10-19 (23 days ago) InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 12.10 "Quantal Quetzal" - Release amd64 (20121017.5) IpRoute: default via 192.168.77.1 dev eth0 proto static 169.254.0.0/16 dev eth0 scope link metric 1000 192.168.77.0/24 dev eth0 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.77.246 metric 1 IwConfig: eth0 no wireless extensions. lono wireless extensions. MarkForUpload: True PrefSources: prefs.js [Profile]/extensions/{8f8fe09b-0bd3-4470-bc1b-8cad42b8203a}/defaults/preferences/prefs.js [Profile]/extensions/{b9db16a4-6edc-47ec-a1f4-b86292ed211d}/defaults/preferences/prefs-dwhelper.js ProcEnviron: TERM=xterm PATH=(custom, no user) XDG_RUNTIME_DIR= LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash Profiles: Profile0 (Default) - LastVersion=16.0.2/20121025212310 (In use) RelatedPackageVersions: icedtea-7-plugin 1.3-1ubuntu1.1 google-talkplugin 3.10.2.0-1 rhythmbox-mozilla 2.97-1ubuntu5 totem-mozilla 3.4.3-0ubuntu4 RfKill: RunningIncompatibleAddons: False SourcePackage: firefox UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install) WifiSyslog: dmi.bios.date: 11/26/2008 dmi.bios.vendor: Dell Inc. dmi.bios.version: A04 dmi.board.name: 0P792H dmi.board.vendor: Dell Inc. dmi.board.version: A04 dmi.chassis.type: 8 dmi.chassis.vendor: Dell Inc. dmi.chassis.version: A04 dmi.modalias: dmi:bvnDellInc.:bvrA04:bd11/26/2008:svnDellInc.:pnStudio1737:pvrA04:rvnDellInc.:rn0P792H:rvrA04:cvnDellInc.:ct8:cvrA04: dmi.product.name: Studio 17
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1077559]
Thank you Lonnie for your suggestion. Could you please try the suggestion given by Cork? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to firefox in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1077559 Title: Scroll Bar Width is Too Narrow - Uneasily Adjustable Status in The Mozilla Firefox Browser: New Status in “firefox” package in Ubuntu: New Bug description: I've been using the Internet since 1993 before and during the first year browsers came out. Back then the scroll bars seemed as wide as your finger. As time has gone on, screen resolutions have continue to increase, but each time this happens the browsers scroll bar gets more and more narrow on the screen. It seems to maintain its pixel width, but at higher resolutions its physical width continues to narrow. At this point, I find myself wanting to enjoy higher resolutions, but at the same time, I want things to be bigger at those higher resolutions. It has finally gotten to the point, that I find the width of scroll bars too narrow, requiring too fine-grained of a mouse-control-effort for simple web page navigation, such as: 1) Clicking the scroll-bar's up button 2) Clicking the scroll-bar's down button 3) Dragging the scroll-bar's slider. Although a scroll-wheel is a helpful workaround, it remains an issue that the scroll-bar itself continues to require ever increasing fine- grained-effort to use. It is finally gotten to the point that I consider it a cumbersome control. I suggest doubling its size by default in future updates and releases of Firefox. Or at lease making the scroll-bar easy to scale-adjust its size (without the user having to understand CSS style sheet modification). Perhaps it would be good to make the scroll-bar right- clickable and providing a "Adjust Width" option in its context menu. Many desktop applications could learn a thing or two from touch screen interfaces. Notice how bluntly (widely) they make their buttons and selectable options. They do it out of necessity because they know a person is going to be using their finger to select that option. However, even with a mouse, the bigger something is, the easier it is to select. Just because a mouse-cursor comes to a fine point, doesn't mean that controls ought to be barely bigger than that point. I believe we have finally crossed a threshold. While before, we've always been trying to maximize the browser's screen real estate, now we've got plenty of width at higher resolutions, and it is time to increase the width of scrollbars and make them require less fine- grained-mouse-control-effort to use. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 12.10 Package: firefox 16.0.2+build1-0ubuntu0.12.10.1 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.5.0-18.29-generic 3.5.7 Uname: Linux 3.5.0-18-generic x86_64 AddonCompatCheckDisabled: False ApportVersion: 2.6.1-0ubuntu6 Architecture: amd64 AudioDevicesInUse: USERPID ACCESS COMMAND /dev/snd/controlC2: lonnie 2197 F pulseaudio /dev/snd/controlC0: lonnie 2197 F pulseaudio BuildID: 20121025212310 CRDA: Error: command ['iw', 'reg', 'get'] failed with exit code 1: nl80211 not found. Channel: Unavailable Date: Sat Nov 10 22:42:45 2012 ForcedLayersAccel: False IfupdownConfig: # interfaces(5) file used by ifup(8) and ifdown(8) auto lo iface lo inet loopback InstallationDate: Installed on 2012-10-19 (23 days ago) InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 12.10 "Quantal Quetzal" - Release amd64 (20121017.5) IpRoute: default via 192.168.77.1 dev eth0 proto static 169.254.0.0/16 dev eth0 scope link metric 1000 192.168.77.0/24 dev eth0 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.77.246 metric 1 IwConfig: eth0 no wireless extensions. lono wireless extensions. MarkForUpload: True PrefSources: prefs.js [Profile]/extensions/{8f8fe09b-0bd3-4470-bc1b-8cad42b8203a}/defaults/preferences/prefs.js [Profile]/extensions/{b9db16a4-6edc-47ec-a1f4-b86292ed211d}/defaults/preferences/prefs-dwhelper.js ProcEnviron: TERM=xterm PATH=(custom, no user) XDG_RUNTIME_DIR= LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash Profiles: Profile0 (Default) - LastVersion=16.0.2/20121025212310 (In use) RelatedPackageVersions: icedtea-7-plugin 1.3-1ubuntu1.1 google-talkplugin 3.10.2.0-1 rhythmbox-mozilla 2.97-1ubuntu5 totem-mozilla 3.4.3-0ubuntu4 RfKill: RunningIncompatibleAddons: False SourcePackage: firefox UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install) WifiSyslog: dmi.bios.date: 11/26/2008 dmi.bios.vendor: Dell Inc. dmi.bios.version: A04 dmi.board.name: 0P792H dmi.board.vendor: Dell Inc. dmi.board.version: A04 dmi.chassis.type: 8 dmi.chassis.vendor: Dell Inc. dmi.chassis.version: A04 dmi.modalias: dmi:bvnDellInc.:bvrA04:bd11/26/2008:svnDellInc.:pnStudio1737:pvrA04:rvnDellInc.:rn0P79
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1077559] Re: Scroll Bar Width is Too Narrow - Uneasily Adjustable
See solution 2: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/29104 Wouldn't this give me the customization to adjust scrollbar width in not only Firefox, but all applications? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to firefox in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1077559 Title: Scroll Bar Width is Too Narrow - Uneasily Adjustable Status in The Mozilla Firefox Browser: New Status in “firefox” package in Ubuntu: New Bug description: I've been using the Internet since 1993 before and during the first year browsers came out. Back then the scroll bars seemed as wide as your finger. As time has gone on, screen resolutions have continue to increase, but each time this happens the browsers scroll bar gets more and more narrow on the screen. It seems to maintain its pixel width, but at higher resolutions its physical width continues to narrow. At this point, I find myself wanting to enjoy higher resolutions, but at the same time, I want things to be bigger at those higher resolutions. It has finally gotten to the point, that I find the width of scroll bars too narrow, requiring too fine-grained of a mouse-control-effort for simple web page navigation, such as: 1) Clicking the scroll-bar's up button 2) Clicking the scroll-bar's down button 3) Dragging the scroll-bar's slider. Although a scroll-wheel is a helpful workaround, it remains an issue that the scroll-bar itself continues to require ever increasing fine- grained-effort to use. It is finally gotten to the point that I consider it a cumbersome control. I suggest doubling its size by default in future updates and releases of Firefox. Or at lease making the scroll-bar easy to scale-adjust its size (without the user having to understand CSS style sheet modification). Perhaps it would be good to make the scroll-bar right- clickable and providing a "Adjust Width" option in its context menu. Many desktop applications could learn a thing or two from touch screen interfaces. Notice how bluntly (widely) they make their buttons and selectable options. They do it out of necessity because they know a person is going to be using their finger to select that option. However, even with a mouse, the bigger something is, the easier it is to select. Just because a mouse-cursor comes to a fine point, doesn't mean that controls ought to be barely bigger than that point. I believe we have finally crossed a threshold. While before, we've always been trying to maximize the browser's screen real estate, now we've got plenty of width at higher resolutions, and it is time to increase the width of scrollbars and make them require less fine- grained-mouse-control-effort to use. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 12.10 Package: firefox 16.0.2+build1-0ubuntu0.12.10.1 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.5.0-18.29-generic 3.5.7 Uname: Linux 3.5.0-18-generic x86_64 AddonCompatCheckDisabled: False ApportVersion: 2.6.1-0ubuntu6 Architecture: amd64 AudioDevicesInUse: USERPID ACCESS COMMAND /dev/snd/controlC2: lonnie 2197 F pulseaudio /dev/snd/controlC0: lonnie 2197 F pulseaudio BuildID: 20121025212310 CRDA: Error: command ['iw', 'reg', 'get'] failed with exit code 1: nl80211 not found. Channel: Unavailable Date: Sat Nov 10 22:42:45 2012 ForcedLayersAccel: False IfupdownConfig: # interfaces(5) file used by ifup(8) and ifdown(8) auto lo iface lo inet loopback InstallationDate: Installed on 2012-10-19 (23 days ago) InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 12.10 "Quantal Quetzal" - Release amd64 (20121017.5) IpRoute: default via 192.168.77.1 dev eth0 proto static 169.254.0.0/16 dev eth0 scope link metric 1000 192.168.77.0/24 dev eth0 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.77.246 metric 1 IwConfig: eth0 no wireless extensions. lono wireless extensions. MarkForUpload: True PrefSources: prefs.js [Profile]/extensions/{8f8fe09b-0bd3-4470-bc1b-8cad42b8203a}/defaults/preferences/prefs.js [Profile]/extensions/{b9db16a4-6edc-47ec-a1f4-b86292ed211d}/defaults/preferences/prefs-dwhelper.js ProcEnviron: TERM=xterm PATH=(custom, no user) XDG_RUNTIME_DIR= LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash Profiles: Profile0 (Default) - LastVersion=16.0.2/20121025212310 (In use) RelatedPackageVersions: icedtea-7-plugin 1.3-1ubuntu1.1 google-talkplugin 3.10.2.0-1 rhythmbox-mozilla 2.97-1ubuntu5 totem-mozilla 3.4.3-0ubuntu4 RfKill: RunningIncompatibleAddons: False SourcePackage: firefox UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install) WifiSyslog: dmi.bios.date: 11/26/2008 dmi.bios.vendor: Dell Inc. dmi.bios.version: A04 dmi.board.name: 0P792H dmi.board.vendor: Dell Inc. dmi.board.version: A04 dmi.chassis.type: 8 dmi.chassis.vendor: Dell Inc. dmi.chassis.version: A04 dmi.modalias: dmi:bvnDe
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1077559] Re: Scroll Bar Width is Too Narrow - Uneasily Adjustable
What theme are you referring to? The upstream report says that firefox is happy to oblige any scroll-bar width prescribed by the OS theme. My scroll-bar is the same size yours is. I'm a user who is not alone in thinking that the default width is too small. Where in Ubuntu can you change the scroll bar widths? Compiz? No. Unity? No. Firefox? No. Firefox says its a operating system's job to set such things. Isn't compiz the window manager? Shouldn't it provide a setting for modifying this? Or is it Unity? Where in Ubuntu? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to firefox in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1077559 Title: Scroll Bar Width is Too Narrow - Uneasily Adjustable Status in The Mozilla Firefox Browser: New Status in “firefox” package in Ubuntu: New Bug description: I've been using the Internet since 1993 before and during the first year browsers came out. Back then the scroll bars seemed as wide as your finger. As time has gone on, screen resolutions have continue to increase, but each time this happens the browsers scroll bar gets more and more narrow on the screen. It seems to maintain its pixel width, but at higher resolutions its physical width continues to narrow. At this point, I find myself wanting to enjoy higher resolutions, but at the same time, I want things to be bigger at those higher resolutions. It has finally gotten to the point, that I find the width of scroll bars too narrow, requiring too fine-grained of a mouse-control-effort for simple web page navigation, such as: 1) Clicking the scroll-bar's up button 2) Clicking the scroll-bar's down button 3) Dragging the scroll-bar's slider. Although a scroll-wheel is a helpful workaround, it remains an issue that the scroll-bar itself continues to require ever increasing fine- grained-effort to use. It is finally gotten to the point that I consider it a cumbersome control. I suggest doubling its size by default in future updates and releases of Firefox. Or at lease making the scroll-bar easy to scale-adjust its size (without the user having to understand CSS style sheet modification). Perhaps it would be good to make the scroll-bar right- clickable and providing a "Adjust Width" option in its context menu. Many desktop applications could learn a thing or two from touch screen interfaces. Notice how bluntly (widely) they make their buttons and selectable options. They do it out of necessity because they know a person is going to be using their finger to select that option. However, even with a mouse, the bigger something is, the easier it is to select. Just because a mouse-cursor comes to a fine point, doesn't mean that controls ought to be barely bigger than that point. I believe we have finally crossed a threshold. While before, we've always been trying to maximize the browser's screen real estate, now we've got plenty of width at higher resolutions, and it is time to increase the width of scrollbars and make them require less fine- grained-mouse-control-effort to use. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 12.10 Package: firefox 16.0.2+build1-0ubuntu0.12.10.1 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.5.0-18.29-generic 3.5.7 Uname: Linux 3.5.0-18-generic x86_64 AddonCompatCheckDisabled: False ApportVersion: 2.6.1-0ubuntu6 Architecture: amd64 AudioDevicesInUse: USERPID ACCESS COMMAND /dev/snd/controlC2: lonnie 2197 F pulseaudio /dev/snd/controlC0: lonnie 2197 F pulseaudio BuildID: 20121025212310 CRDA: Error: command ['iw', 'reg', 'get'] failed with exit code 1: nl80211 not found. Channel: Unavailable Date: Sat Nov 10 22:42:45 2012 ForcedLayersAccel: False IfupdownConfig: # interfaces(5) file used by ifup(8) and ifdown(8) auto lo iface lo inet loopback InstallationDate: Installed on 2012-10-19 (23 days ago) InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 12.10 "Quantal Quetzal" - Release amd64 (20121017.5) IpRoute: default via 192.168.77.1 dev eth0 proto static 169.254.0.0/16 dev eth0 scope link metric 1000 192.168.77.0/24 dev eth0 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.77.246 metric 1 IwConfig: eth0 no wireless extensions. lono wireless extensions. MarkForUpload: True PrefSources: prefs.js [Profile]/extensions/{8f8fe09b-0bd3-4470-bc1b-8cad42b8203a}/defaults/preferences/prefs.js [Profile]/extensions/{b9db16a4-6edc-47ec-a1f4-b86292ed211d}/defaults/preferences/prefs-dwhelper.js ProcEnviron: TERM=xterm PATH=(custom, no user) XDG_RUNTIME_DIR= LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash Profiles: Profile0 (Default) - LastVersion=16.0.2/20121025212310 (In use) RelatedPackageVersions: icedtea-7-plugin 1.3-1ubuntu1.1 google-talkplugin 3.10.2.0-1 rhythmbox-mozilla 2.97-1ubuntu5 totem-mozilla 3.4.3-0ubuntu4 RfKill: RunningIncompatibleAddons: False SourcePa
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1077559] Re: Scroll Bar Width is Too Narrow - Uneasily Adjustable
that's neither a bug in compiz nor unity as it says on the upstream bug report it may actually be a bug in the theme. ** No longer affects: compiz ** No longer affects: unity -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to firefox in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1077559 Title: Scroll Bar Width is Too Narrow - Uneasily Adjustable Status in The Mozilla Firefox Browser: New Status in “firefox” package in Ubuntu: New Bug description: I've been using the Internet since 1993 before and during the first year browsers came out. Back then the scroll bars seemed as wide as your finger. As time has gone on, screen resolutions have continue to increase, but each time this happens the browsers scroll bar gets more and more narrow on the screen. It seems to maintain its pixel width, but at higher resolutions its physical width continues to narrow. At this point, I find myself wanting to enjoy higher resolutions, but at the same time, I want things to be bigger at those higher resolutions. It has finally gotten to the point, that I find the width of scroll bars too narrow, requiring too fine-grained of a mouse-control-effort for simple web page navigation, such as: 1) Clicking the scroll-bar's up button 2) Clicking the scroll-bar's down button 3) Dragging the scroll-bar's slider. Although a scroll-wheel is a helpful workaround, it remains an issue that the scroll-bar itself continues to require ever increasing fine- grained-effort to use. It is finally gotten to the point that I consider it a cumbersome control. I suggest doubling its size by default in future updates and releases of Firefox. Or at lease making the scroll-bar easy to scale-adjust its size (without the user having to understand CSS style sheet modification). Perhaps it would be good to make the scroll-bar right- clickable and providing a "Adjust Width" option in its context menu. Many desktop applications could learn a thing or two from touch screen interfaces. Notice how bluntly (widely) they make their buttons and selectable options. They do it out of necessity because they know a person is going to be using their finger to select that option. However, even with a mouse, the bigger something is, the easier it is to select. Just because a mouse-cursor comes to a fine point, doesn't mean that controls ought to be barely bigger than that point. I believe we have finally crossed a threshold. While before, we've always been trying to maximize the browser's screen real estate, now we've got plenty of width at higher resolutions, and it is time to increase the width of scrollbars and make them require less fine- grained-mouse-control-effort to use. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 12.10 Package: firefox 16.0.2+build1-0ubuntu0.12.10.1 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.5.0-18.29-generic 3.5.7 Uname: Linux 3.5.0-18-generic x86_64 AddonCompatCheckDisabled: False ApportVersion: 2.6.1-0ubuntu6 Architecture: amd64 AudioDevicesInUse: USERPID ACCESS COMMAND /dev/snd/controlC2: lonnie 2197 F pulseaudio /dev/snd/controlC0: lonnie 2197 F pulseaudio BuildID: 20121025212310 CRDA: Error: command ['iw', 'reg', 'get'] failed with exit code 1: nl80211 not found. Channel: Unavailable Date: Sat Nov 10 22:42:45 2012 ForcedLayersAccel: False IfupdownConfig: # interfaces(5) file used by ifup(8) and ifdown(8) auto lo iface lo inet loopback InstallationDate: Installed on 2012-10-19 (23 days ago) InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 12.10 "Quantal Quetzal" - Release amd64 (20121017.5) IpRoute: default via 192.168.77.1 dev eth0 proto static 169.254.0.0/16 dev eth0 scope link metric 1000 192.168.77.0/24 dev eth0 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.77.246 metric 1 IwConfig: eth0 no wireless extensions. lono wireless extensions. MarkForUpload: True PrefSources: prefs.js [Profile]/extensions/{8f8fe09b-0bd3-4470-bc1b-8cad42b8203a}/defaults/preferences/prefs.js [Profile]/extensions/{b9db16a4-6edc-47ec-a1f4-b86292ed211d}/defaults/preferences/prefs-dwhelper.js ProcEnviron: TERM=xterm PATH=(custom, no user) XDG_RUNTIME_DIR= LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash Profiles: Profile0 (Default) - LastVersion=16.0.2/20121025212310 (In use) RelatedPackageVersions: icedtea-7-plugin 1.3-1ubuntu1.1 google-talkplugin 3.10.2.0-1 rhythmbox-mozilla 2.97-1ubuntu5 totem-mozilla 3.4.3-0ubuntu4 RfKill: RunningIncompatibleAddons: False SourcePackage: firefox UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install) WifiSyslog: dmi.bios.date: 11/26/2008 dmi.bios.vendor: Dell Inc. dmi.bios.version: A04 dmi.board.name: 0P792H dmi.board.vendor: Dell Inc. dmi.board.version: A04 dmi.chassis.type: 8 dmi.chassis.vendor: Dell Inc. dmi.chassis.version: A04 dmi.modalias:
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1077559] Re: Scroll Bar Width is Too Narrow - Uneasily Adjustable
Perhaps it is the duty of Unity or Compiz to provide this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/compiz/+bug/1078681 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to firefox in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1077559 Title: Scroll Bar Width is Too Narrow - Uneasily Adjustable Status in Compiz: New Status in The Mozilla Firefox Browser: New Status in Unity: New Status in “firefox” package in Ubuntu: New Bug description: I've been using the Internet since 1993 before and during the first year browsers came out. Back then the scroll bars seemed as wide as your finger. As time has gone on, screen resolutions have continue to increase, but each time this happens the browsers scroll bar gets more and more narrow on the screen. It seems to maintain its pixel width, but at higher resolutions its physical width continues to narrow. At this point, I find myself wanting to enjoy higher resolutions, but at the same time, I want things to be bigger at those higher resolutions. It has finally gotten to the point, that I find the width of scroll bars too narrow, requiring too fine-grained of a mouse-control-effort for simple web page navigation, such as: 1) Clicking the scroll-bar's up button 2) Clicking the scroll-bar's down button 3) Dragging the scroll-bar's slider. Although a scroll-wheel is a helpful workaround, it remains an issue that the scroll-bar itself continues to require ever increasing fine- grained-effort to use. It is finally gotten to the point that I consider it a cumbersome control. I suggest doubling its size by default in future updates and releases of Firefox. Or at lease making the scroll-bar easy to scale-adjust its size (without the user having to understand CSS style sheet modification). Perhaps it would be good to make the scroll-bar right- clickable and providing a "Adjust Width" option in its context menu. Many desktop applications could learn a thing or two from touch screen interfaces. Notice how bluntly (widely) they make their buttons and selectable options. They do it out of necessity because they know a person is going to be using their finger to select that option. However, even with a mouse, the bigger something is, the easier it is to select. Just because a mouse-cursor comes to a fine point, doesn't mean that controls ought to be barely bigger than that point. I believe we have finally crossed a threshold. While before, we've always been trying to maximize the browser's screen real estate, now we've got plenty of width at higher resolutions, and it is time to increase the width of scrollbars and make them require less fine- grained-mouse-control-effort to use. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 12.10 Package: firefox 16.0.2+build1-0ubuntu0.12.10.1 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.5.0-18.29-generic 3.5.7 Uname: Linux 3.5.0-18-generic x86_64 AddonCompatCheckDisabled: False ApportVersion: 2.6.1-0ubuntu6 Architecture: amd64 AudioDevicesInUse: USERPID ACCESS COMMAND /dev/snd/controlC2: lonnie 2197 F pulseaudio /dev/snd/controlC0: lonnie 2197 F pulseaudio BuildID: 20121025212310 CRDA: Error: command ['iw', 'reg', 'get'] failed with exit code 1: nl80211 not found. Channel: Unavailable Date: Sat Nov 10 22:42:45 2012 ForcedLayersAccel: False IfupdownConfig: # interfaces(5) file used by ifup(8) and ifdown(8) auto lo iface lo inet loopback InstallationDate: Installed on 2012-10-19 (23 days ago) InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 12.10 "Quantal Quetzal" - Release amd64 (20121017.5) IpRoute: default via 192.168.77.1 dev eth0 proto static 169.254.0.0/16 dev eth0 scope link metric 1000 192.168.77.0/24 dev eth0 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.77.246 metric 1 IwConfig: eth0 no wireless extensions. lono wireless extensions. MarkForUpload: True PrefSources: prefs.js [Profile]/extensions/{8f8fe09b-0bd3-4470-bc1b-8cad42b8203a}/defaults/preferences/prefs.js [Profile]/extensions/{b9db16a4-6edc-47ec-a1f4-b86292ed211d}/defaults/preferences/prefs-dwhelper.js ProcEnviron: TERM=xterm PATH=(custom, no user) XDG_RUNTIME_DIR= LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash Profiles: Profile0 (Default) - LastVersion=16.0.2/20121025212310 (In use) RelatedPackageVersions: icedtea-7-plugin 1.3-1ubuntu1.1 google-talkplugin 3.10.2.0-1 rhythmbox-mozilla 2.97-1ubuntu5 totem-mozilla 3.4.3-0ubuntu4 RfKill: RunningIncompatibleAddons: False SourcePackage: firefox UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install) WifiSyslog: dmi.bios.date: 11/26/2008 dmi.bios.vendor: Dell Inc. dmi.bios.version: A04 dmi.board.name: 0P792H dmi.board.vendor: Dell Inc. dmi.board.version: A04 dmi.chassis.type: 8 dmi.chassis.vendor: Dell Inc. dmi.chassis.version: A04 dmi.modalias: dmi:bvnDellInc.:bvrA04:
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1077559] Re: Scroll Bar Width is Too Narrow - Uneasily Adjustable
** Also affects: unity Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Also affects: compiz Importance: Undecided Status: New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to firefox in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1077559 Title: Scroll Bar Width is Too Narrow - Uneasily Adjustable Status in Compiz: New Status in The Mozilla Firefox Browser: New Status in Unity: New Status in “firefox” package in Ubuntu: New Bug description: I've been using the Internet since 1993 before and during the first year browsers came out. Back then the scroll bars seemed as wide as your finger. As time has gone on, screen resolutions have continue to increase, but each time this happens the browsers scroll bar gets more and more narrow on the screen. It seems to maintain its pixel width, but at higher resolutions its physical width continues to narrow. At this point, I find myself wanting to enjoy higher resolutions, but at the same time, I want things to be bigger at those higher resolutions. It has finally gotten to the point, that I find the width of scroll bars too narrow, requiring too fine-grained of a mouse-control-effort for simple web page navigation, such as: 1) Clicking the scroll-bar's up button 2) Clicking the scroll-bar's down button 3) Dragging the scroll-bar's slider. Although a scroll-wheel is a helpful workaround, it remains an issue that the scroll-bar itself continues to require ever increasing fine- grained-effort to use. It is finally gotten to the point that I consider it a cumbersome control. I suggest doubling its size by default in future updates and releases of Firefox. Or at lease making the scroll-bar easy to scale-adjust its size (without the user having to understand CSS style sheet modification). Perhaps it would be good to make the scroll-bar right- clickable and providing a "Adjust Width" option in its context menu. Many desktop applications could learn a thing or two from touch screen interfaces. Notice how bluntly (widely) they make their buttons and selectable options. They do it out of necessity because they know a person is going to be using their finger to select that option. However, even with a mouse, the bigger something is, the easier it is to select. Just because a mouse-cursor comes to a fine point, doesn't mean that controls ought to be barely bigger than that point. I believe we have finally crossed a threshold. While before, we've always been trying to maximize the browser's screen real estate, now we've got plenty of width at higher resolutions, and it is time to increase the width of scrollbars and make them require less fine- grained-mouse-control-effort to use. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 12.10 Package: firefox 16.0.2+build1-0ubuntu0.12.10.1 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.5.0-18.29-generic 3.5.7 Uname: Linux 3.5.0-18-generic x86_64 AddonCompatCheckDisabled: False ApportVersion: 2.6.1-0ubuntu6 Architecture: amd64 AudioDevicesInUse: USERPID ACCESS COMMAND /dev/snd/controlC2: lonnie 2197 F pulseaudio /dev/snd/controlC0: lonnie 2197 F pulseaudio BuildID: 20121025212310 CRDA: Error: command ['iw', 'reg', 'get'] failed with exit code 1: nl80211 not found. Channel: Unavailable Date: Sat Nov 10 22:42:45 2012 ForcedLayersAccel: False IfupdownConfig: # interfaces(5) file used by ifup(8) and ifdown(8) auto lo iface lo inet loopback InstallationDate: Installed on 2012-10-19 (23 days ago) InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 12.10 "Quantal Quetzal" - Release amd64 (20121017.5) IpRoute: default via 192.168.77.1 dev eth0 proto static 169.254.0.0/16 dev eth0 scope link metric 1000 192.168.77.0/24 dev eth0 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.77.246 metric 1 IwConfig: eth0 no wireless extensions. lono wireless extensions. MarkForUpload: True PrefSources: prefs.js [Profile]/extensions/{8f8fe09b-0bd3-4470-bc1b-8cad42b8203a}/defaults/preferences/prefs.js [Profile]/extensions/{b9db16a4-6edc-47ec-a1f4-b86292ed211d}/defaults/preferences/prefs-dwhelper.js ProcEnviron: TERM=xterm PATH=(custom, no user) XDG_RUNTIME_DIR= LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash Profiles: Profile0 (Default) - LastVersion=16.0.2/20121025212310 (In use) RelatedPackageVersions: icedtea-7-plugin 1.3-1ubuntu1.1 google-talkplugin 3.10.2.0-1 rhythmbox-mozilla 2.97-1ubuntu5 totem-mozilla 3.4.3-0ubuntu4 RfKill: RunningIncompatibleAddons: False SourcePackage: firefox UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install) WifiSyslog: dmi.bios.date: 11/26/2008 dmi.bios.vendor: Dell Inc. dmi.bios.version: A04 dmi.board.name: 0P792H dmi.board.vendor: Dell Inc. dmi.board.version: A04 dmi.chassis.type: 8 dmi.chassis.vendor: Dell Inc. dmi.chassis.version: A04 dmi.moda
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1077559] Re: Scroll Bar Width is Too Narrow - Uneasily Adjustable
Launchpad has imported 3 comments from the remote bug at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=811681. If you reply to an imported comment from within Launchpad, your comment will be sent to the remote bug automatically. Read more about Launchpad's inter-bugtracker facilities at https://help.launchpad.net/InterBugTracking. On 2012-11-14T11:14:03+00:00 Aozill6 wrote: User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Ubuntu; Linux x86_64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/16.0 Build ID: 20121025212310 Steps to reproduce: For additional files go here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/1077559 Actual results: I've been using the Internet since 1993 before and during the first year browsers came out. Back then the scroll bars seemed as wide as your finger. As time has gone on, screen resolutions have continue to increase, but each time this happens the browsers scroll bar gets more and more narrow on the screen. It seems to maintain its pixel width, but at higher resolutions its physical width continues to narrow. At this point, I find myself wanting to enjoy higher resolutions, but at the same time, I want things to be bigger at those higher resolutions. It has finally gotten to the point, that I find the width of scroll bars too narrow, requiring too fine-grained of a mouse-control-effort for simple web page navigation, such as: 1) Clicking the scroll-bar's up button 2) Clicking the scroll-bar's down button 3) Dragging the scroll-bar's slider. Although a scroll-wheel is a helpful workaround, it remains an issue that the scroll-bar itself continues to require ever increasing fine- grained-effort to use. It is finally gotten to the point that I consider it a cumbersome control. I suggest doubling its size by default in future updates and releases of Firefox. Or at lease making the scroll-bar easy to scale-adjust its size (without the user having to understand CSS style sheet modification). Perhaps it would be good to make the scroll-bar right-clickable and providing a "Adjust Width" option in its context menu. Many desktop applications could learn a thing or two from touch screen interfaces. Notice how bluntly (widely) they make their buttons and selectable options. They do it out of necessity because they know a person is going to be using their finger to select that option. However, even with a mouse, the bigger something is, the easier it is to select. Just because a mouse-cursor comes to a fine point, doesn't mean that controls ought to be barely bigger than that point. I believe we have finally crossed a threshold. While before, we've always been trying to maximize the browser's screen real estate, now we've got plenty of width at higher resolutions, and it is time to increase the width of scrollbars and make them require less fine- grained-mouse-control-effort to use. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 12.10 Package: firefox 16.0.2+build1-0ubuntu0.12.10.1 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.5.0-18.29-generic 3.5.7 Uname: Linux 3.5.0-18-generic x86_64 AddonCompatCheckDisabled: False ApportVersion: 2.6.1-0ubuntu6 Architecture: amd64 AudioDevicesInUse: USER PID ACCESS COMMAND /dev/snd/controlC2: lonnie 2197 F pulseaudio /dev/snd/controlC0: lonnie 2197 F pulseaudio BuildID: 20121025212310 CRDA: Error: command ['iw', 'reg', 'get'] failed with exit code 1: nl80211 not found. Channel: Unavailable Date: Sat Nov 10 22:42:45 2012 ForcedLayersAccel: False IfupdownConfig: # interfaces(5) file used by ifup(8) and ifdown(8) auto lo iface lo inet loopback InstallationDate: Installed on 2012-10-19 (23 days ago) InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 12.10 "Quantal Quetzal" - Release amd64 (20121017.5) IpRoute: default via 192.168.77.1 dev eth0 proto static 169.254.0.0/16 dev eth0 scope link metric 1000 192.168.77.0/24 dev eth0 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.77.246 metric 1 IwConfig: eth0 no wireless extensions. lo no wireless extensions. MarkForUpload: True PrefSources: prefs.js [Profile]/extensions/{8f8fe09b-0bd3-4470-bc1b-8cad42b8203a}/defaults/preferences/prefs.js [Profile]/extensions/{b9db16a4-6edc-47ec-a1f4-b86292ed211d}/defaults/preferences/prefs-dwhelper.js ProcEnviron: TERM=xterm PATH=(custom, no user) XDG_RUNTIME_DIR= LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash Profiles: Profile0 (Default) - LastVersion=16.0.2/20121025212310 (In use) RelatedPackageVersions: icedtea-7-plugin 1.3-1ubuntu1.1 google-talkplugin 3.10.2.0-1 rhythmbox-mozilla 2.97-1ubuntu5 totem-mozilla 3.4.3-0ubuntu4 RfKill: RunningIncompatibleAddons: False SourcePackage: firefox UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install) WifiSyslog: dmi.bios.date: 11/26/2008 dmi.bios.vendor: Dell Inc. dmi.bios.version: A04 dmi.board.name: 0P792H dmi.board.vendor: Dell Inc. dmi.board.version: A04 dmi.chassis.type: 8 dmi.chassis.vendor: Dell Inc. dmi.chassis.version: A04 dmi.modalias: dmi:bvnDellInc.:bvrA04:bd11/26/2008:svnDellInc.:pnSt
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1077559] Re: Scroll Bar Width is Too Narrow - Uneasily Adjustable
** Bug watch added: Mozilla Bugzilla #811681 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=811681 ** Also affects: firefox via https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=811681 Importance: Unknown Status: Unknown -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to firefox in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1077559 Title: Scroll Bar Width is Too Narrow - Uneasily Adjustable Status in The Mozilla Firefox Browser: Unknown Status in “firefox” package in Ubuntu: New Bug description: I've been using the Internet since 1993 before and during the first year browsers came out. Back then the scroll bars seemed as wide as your finger. As time has gone on, screen resolutions have continue to increase, but each time this happens the browsers scroll bar gets more and more narrow on the screen. It seems to maintain its pixel width, but at higher resolutions its physical width continues to narrow. At this point, I find myself wanting to enjoy higher resolutions, but at the same time, I want things to be bigger at those higher resolutions. It has finally gotten to the point, that I find the width of scroll bars too narrow, requiring too fine-grained of a mouse-control-effort for simple web page navigation, such as: 1) Clicking the scroll-bar's up button 2) Clicking the scroll-bar's down button 3) Dragging the scroll-bar's slider. Although a scroll-wheel is a helpful workaround, it remains an issue that the scroll-bar itself continues to require ever increasing fine- grained-effort to use. It is finally gotten to the point that I consider it a cumbersome control. I suggest doubling its size by default in future updates and releases of Firefox. Or at lease making the scroll-bar easy to scale-adjust its size (without the user having to understand CSS style sheet modification). Perhaps it would be good to make the scroll-bar right- clickable and providing a "Adjust Width" option in its context menu. Many desktop applications could learn a thing or two from touch screen interfaces. Notice how bluntly (widely) they make their buttons and selectable options. They do it out of necessity because they know a person is going to be using their finger to select that option. However, even with a mouse, the bigger something is, the easier it is to select. Just because a mouse-cursor comes to a fine point, doesn't mean that controls ought to be barely bigger than that point. I believe we have finally crossed a threshold. While before, we've always been trying to maximize the browser's screen real estate, now we've got plenty of width at higher resolutions, and it is time to increase the width of scrollbars and make them require less fine- grained-mouse-control-effort to use. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 12.10 Package: firefox 16.0.2+build1-0ubuntu0.12.10.1 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.5.0-18.29-generic 3.5.7 Uname: Linux 3.5.0-18-generic x86_64 AddonCompatCheckDisabled: False ApportVersion: 2.6.1-0ubuntu6 Architecture: amd64 AudioDevicesInUse: USERPID ACCESS COMMAND /dev/snd/controlC2: lonnie 2197 F pulseaudio /dev/snd/controlC0: lonnie 2197 F pulseaudio BuildID: 20121025212310 CRDA: Error: command ['iw', 'reg', 'get'] failed with exit code 1: nl80211 not found. Channel: Unavailable Date: Sat Nov 10 22:42:45 2012 ForcedLayersAccel: False IfupdownConfig: # interfaces(5) file used by ifup(8) and ifdown(8) auto lo iface lo inet loopback InstallationDate: Installed on 2012-10-19 (23 days ago) InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 12.10 "Quantal Quetzal" - Release amd64 (20121017.5) IpRoute: default via 192.168.77.1 dev eth0 proto static 169.254.0.0/16 dev eth0 scope link metric 1000 192.168.77.0/24 dev eth0 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.77.246 metric 1 IwConfig: eth0 no wireless extensions. lono wireless extensions. MarkForUpload: True PrefSources: prefs.js [Profile]/extensions/{8f8fe09b-0bd3-4470-bc1b-8cad42b8203a}/defaults/preferences/prefs.js [Profile]/extensions/{b9db16a4-6edc-47ec-a1f4-b86292ed211d}/defaults/preferences/prefs-dwhelper.js ProcEnviron: TERM=xterm PATH=(custom, no user) XDG_RUNTIME_DIR= LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash Profiles: Profile0 (Default) - LastVersion=16.0.2/20121025212310 (In use) RelatedPackageVersions: icedtea-7-plugin 1.3-1ubuntu1.1 google-talkplugin 3.10.2.0-1 rhythmbox-mozilla 2.97-1ubuntu5 totem-mozilla 3.4.3-0ubuntu4 RfKill: RunningIncompatibleAddons: False SourcePackage: firefox UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install) WifiSyslog: dmi.bios.date: 11/26/2008 dmi.bios.vendor: Dell Inc. dmi.bios.version: A04 dmi.board.name: 0P792H dmi.board.vendor: Dell Inc. dmi.board.version: A04 dmi.chassis.type: 8 dmi.chassis.ven
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1077559] Re: Scroll Bar Width is Too Narrow Uneasily Adjustable
** Description changed: I've been using the Internet since 1993 before and during the first year browsers came out. Back then the scroll bars seemed as wide as your finger. As time has gone on, screen resolutions have continue to increase, but each time this happens the browsers scroll bar gets more and more narrow on the screen. It seems to maintain its pixel width, but at higher resolutions its physical width continues to narrow. At this point, I find myself wanting to enjoy higher resolutions, but at the same time, I want things to be bigger at those higher resolutions. It has finally gotten to the point, that I find the width of scroll bars too narrow, requiring too fine-grained of a mouse-control-effort for simple web page navigation, such as: 1) Clicking the scroll-bar's up button 2) Clicking the scroll-bar's down button 3) Dragging the scroll-bar's slider. Although a scroll-wheel is a helpful workaround, it remains an issue that the scroll-bar itself continues to require ever increasing fine- grained-effort to use. It is finally gotten to the point that I consider it a cumbersome control. I suggest doubling its size by default in future updates and releases of Firefox. Or at lease making the scroll-bar easy to scale-adjust its size (without the user having to understand CSS style sheet modification). Perhaps it would be good to make the scroll-bar right-clickable and providing a "Adjust Width" option in its context menu. Many desktop applications could learn a thing or two from touch screen interfaces. Notice how bluntly (widely) they make their buttons and selectable options. They do it out of necessity because they know a person is going to be using their finger to select that option. However, even with a mouse, the bigger something is, the easier it is to select. Just because a mouse-cursor comes to a fine point, doesn't mean that controls ought to be barely bigger than that point. I believe we have finally crossed a threshold. While before, we've always been trying to maximize the browser's screen real estate, now we've got plenty of width at higher resolutions, and it is time to increase the width of scrollbars and make them require less fine- - grained-mouse-control to use. + grained-mouse-control-effort to use. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 12.10 Package: firefox 16.0.2+build1-0ubuntu0.12.10.1 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.5.0-18.29-generic 3.5.7 Uname: Linux 3.5.0-18-generic x86_64 AddonCompatCheckDisabled: False ApportVersion: 2.6.1-0ubuntu6 Architecture: amd64 AudioDevicesInUse: USERPID ACCESS COMMAND /dev/snd/controlC2: lonnie 2197 F pulseaudio /dev/snd/controlC0: lonnie 2197 F pulseaudio BuildID: 20121025212310 CRDA: Error: command ['iw', 'reg', 'get'] failed with exit code 1: nl80211 not found. Channel: Unavailable Date: Sat Nov 10 22:42:45 2012 ForcedLayersAccel: False IfupdownConfig: # interfaces(5) file used by ifup(8) and ifdown(8) auto lo iface lo inet loopback InstallationDate: Installed on 2012-10-19 (23 days ago) InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 12.10 "Quantal Quetzal" - Release amd64 (20121017.5) IpRoute: default via 192.168.77.1 dev eth0 proto static 169.254.0.0/16 dev eth0 scope link metric 1000 192.168.77.0/24 dev eth0 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.77.246 metric 1 IwConfig: eth0 no wireless extensions. lono wireless extensions. MarkForUpload: True PrefSources: prefs.js [Profile]/extensions/{8f8fe09b-0bd3-4470-bc1b-8cad42b8203a}/defaults/preferences/prefs.js [Profile]/extensions/{b9db16a4-6edc-47ec-a1f4-b86292ed211d}/defaults/preferences/prefs-dwhelper.js ProcEnviron: TERM=xterm PATH=(custom, no user) XDG_RUNTIME_DIR= LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash Profiles: Profile0 (Default) - LastVersion=16.0.2/20121025212310 (In use) RelatedPackageVersions: icedtea-7-plugin 1.3-1ubuntu1.1 google-talkplugin 3.10.2.0-1 rhythmbox-mozilla 2.97-1ubuntu5 totem-mozilla 3.4.3-0ubuntu4 RfKill: RunningIncompatibleAddons: False SourcePackage: firefox UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install) WifiSyslog: dmi.bios.date: 11/26/2008 dmi.bios.vendor: Dell Inc. dmi.bios.version: A04 dmi.board.name: 0P792H dmi.board.vendor: Dell Inc. dmi.board.version: A04 dmi.chassis.type: 8 dmi.chassis.vendor: Dell Inc. dmi.chassis.version: A04 dmi.modalias: dmi:bvnDellInc.:bvrA04:bd11/26/2008:svnDellInc.:pnStudio1737:pvrA04:rvnDellInc.:rn0P792H:rvrA04:cvnDellInc.:ct8:cvrA04: dmi.product.name: Studio 1737 dmi.product.version: A04 dmi.sys.vendor: Dell Inc. ** Summary changed: - Scroll Bar Width is Too Narrow Uneasily Adjustable + Scroll Bar Width is Too Narrow - Uneasily Adjustable -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscrib
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1077559] Re: Scroll Bar Width is Too Narrow Uneasily Adjustable
** Description changed: I've been using the Internet since 1993 before and during the first year browsers came out. Back then the scroll bars seemed as wide as your finger. As time has gone on, screen resolutions have continue to increase, but each time this happens the browsers scroll bar gets more and more narrow on the screen. It seems to maintain its pixel width, but at higher resolutions its physical width continues to narrow. At this point, I find myself wanting to enjoy higher resolutions, but at the same time, I want things to be bigger at those higher resolutions. It has finally gotten to the point, that I find the width of scroll bars too narrow, requiring too fine-grained of a mouse-control-effort for simple web page navigation, such as: 1) Clicking the scroll-bar's up button 2) Clicking the scroll-bar's down button 3) Dragging the scroll-bar's slider. Although a scroll-wheel is a helpful workaround, it remains an issue that the scroll-bar itself continues to require ever increasing fine- grained-effort to use. It is finally gotten to the point that I consider it a cumbersome control. I suggest doubling its size by default in future updates and releases of Firefox. Or at lease making the scroll-bar easy to scale-adjust its size (without the user having to understand CSS style sheet modification). Perhaps it would be good to make the scroll-bar right-clickable and providing a "Adjust Width" option in its context menu. Many desktop applications could learn a thing or two from touch screen interfaces. Notice how bluntly (widely) they make their buttons and selectable options. They do it out of necessity because they know a person is going to be using their finger to select that option. However, even with a mouse, the bigger something is, the easier it is to select. - Just because a mouse-cursor come to a fine point, doesn't mean that + Just because a mouse-cursor comes to a fine point, doesn't mean that controls ought to be barely bigger than that point. - I believe we have finally crossed threshold. While before, we've always - been trying to maximize the browser's screen real estate, now we've got - plenty of width there, and it is time to increase the width of - scrollbars and make them require less fine-grained-mouse-control to use. + I believe we have finally crossed a threshold. While before, we've + always been trying to maximize the browser's screen real estate, now + we've got plenty of width at higher resolutions, and it is time to + increase the width of scrollbars and make them require less fine- + grained-mouse-control to use. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 12.10 Package: firefox 16.0.2+build1-0ubuntu0.12.10.1 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.5.0-18.29-generic 3.5.7 Uname: Linux 3.5.0-18-generic x86_64 AddonCompatCheckDisabled: False ApportVersion: 2.6.1-0ubuntu6 Architecture: amd64 AudioDevicesInUse: - USERPID ACCESS COMMAND - /dev/snd/controlC2: lonnie 2197 F pulseaudio - /dev/snd/controlC0: lonnie 2197 F pulseaudio + USERPID ACCESS COMMAND + /dev/snd/controlC2: lonnie 2197 F pulseaudio + /dev/snd/controlC0: lonnie 2197 F pulseaudio BuildID: 20121025212310 CRDA: Error: command ['iw', 'reg', 'get'] failed with exit code 1: nl80211 not found. Channel: Unavailable Date: Sat Nov 10 22:42:45 2012 ForcedLayersAccel: False IfupdownConfig: - # interfaces(5) file used by ifup(8) and ifdown(8) - auto lo - iface lo inet loopback + # interfaces(5) file used by ifup(8) and ifdown(8) + auto lo + iface lo inet loopback InstallationDate: Installed on 2012-10-19 (23 days ago) InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 12.10 "Quantal Quetzal" - Release amd64 (20121017.5) IpRoute: - default via 192.168.77.1 dev eth0 proto static - 169.254.0.0/16 dev eth0 scope link metric 1000 - 192.168.77.0/24 dev eth0 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.77.246 metric 1 + default via 192.168.77.1 dev eth0 proto static + 169.254.0.0/16 dev eth0 scope link metric 1000 + 192.168.77.0/24 dev eth0 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.77.246 metric 1 IwConfig: - eth0 no wireless extensions. - - lono wireless extensions. + eth0 no wireless extensions. + + lono wireless extensions. MarkForUpload: True PrefSources: - prefs.js - [Profile]/extensions/{8f8fe09b-0bd3-4470-bc1b-8cad42b8203a}/defaults/preferences/prefs.js - [Profile]/extensions/{b9db16a4-6edc-47ec-a1f4-b86292ed211d}/defaults/preferences/prefs-dwhelper.js + prefs.js + [Profile]/extensions/{8f8fe09b-0bd3-4470-bc1b-8cad42b8203a}/defaults/preferences/prefs.js + [Profile]/extensions/{b9db16a4-6edc-47ec-a1f4-b86292ed211d}/defaults/preferences/prefs-dwhelper.js ProcEnviron: - TERM=xterm - PATH=(custom, no user) - XDG_RUNTIME_DIR= - LANG=en_US.UTF-8 - SHELL=/bin/bash + TERM=xterm + PATH=(custom, no user) + XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1077559] [NEW] Scroll Bar Width is Too Narrow Uneasily Adjustable
Public bug reported: I've been using the Internet since 1993 before and during the first year browsers came out. Back then the scroll bars seemed as wide as your finger. As time has gone on, screen resolutions have continue to increase, but each time this happens the browsers scroll bar gets more and more narrow on the screen. It seems to maintain its pixel width, but at higher resolutions its physical width continues to narrow. At this point, I find myself wanting to enjoy higher resolutions, but at the same time, I want things to be bigger at those higher resolutions. It has finally gotten to the point, that I find the width of scroll bars too narrow, requiring too fine-grained of a mouse-control-effort for simple web page navigation, such as: 1) Clicking the scroll-bar's up button 2) Clicking the scroll-bar's down button 3) Dragging the scroll-bar's slider. Although a scroll-wheel is a helpful workaround, it remains an issue that the scroll-bar itself continues to require ever increasing fine- grained-effort to use. It is finally gotten to the point that I consider it a cumbersome control. I suggest doubling its size by default in future updates and releases of Firefox. Or at lease making the scroll-bar easy to scale-adjust its size (without the user having to understand CSS style sheet modification). Perhaps it would be good to make the scroll-bar right-clickable and providing a "Adjust Width" option in its context menu. Many desktop applications could learn a thing or two from touch screen interfaces. Notice how bluntly (widely) they make their buttons and selectable options. They do it out of necessity because they know a person is going to be using their finger to select that option. However, even with a mouse, the bigger something is, the easier it is to select. Just because a mouse-cursor comes to a fine point, doesn't mean that controls ought to be barely bigger than that point. I believe we have finally crossed a threshold. While before, we've always been trying to maximize the browser's screen real estate, now we've got plenty of width at higher resolutions, and it is time to increase the width of scrollbars and make them require less fine- grained-mouse-control to use. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 12.10 Package: firefox 16.0.2+build1-0ubuntu0.12.10.1 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.5.0-18.29-generic 3.5.7 Uname: Linux 3.5.0-18-generic x86_64 AddonCompatCheckDisabled: False ApportVersion: 2.6.1-0ubuntu6 Architecture: amd64 AudioDevicesInUse: USERPID ACCESS COMMAND /dev/snd/controlC2: lonnie 2197 F pulseaudio /dev/snd/controlC0: lonnie 2197 F pulseaudio BuildID: 20121025212310 CRDA: Error: command ['iw', 'reg', 'get'] failed with exit code 1: nl80211 not found. Channel: Unavailable Date: Sat Nov 10 22:42:45 2012 ForcedLayersAccel: False IfupdownConfig: # interfaces(5) file used by ifup(8) and ifdown(8) auto lo iface lo inet loopback InstallationDate: Installed on 2012-10-19 (23 days ago) InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 12.10 "Quantal Quetzal" - Release amd64 (20121017.5) IpRoute: default via 192.168.77.1 dev eth0 proto static 169.254.0.0/16 dev eth0 scope link metric 1000 192.168.77.0/24 dev eth0 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.77.246 metric 1 IwConfig: eth0 no wireless extensions. lono wireless extensions. MarkForUpload: True PrefSources: prefs.js [Profile]/extensions/{8f8fe09b-0bd3-4470-bc1b-8cad42b8203a}/defaults/preferences/prefs.js [Profile]/extensions/{b9db16a4-6edc-47ec-a1f4-b86292ed211d}/defaults/preferences/prefs-dwhelper.js ProcEnviron: TERM=xterm PATH=(custom, no user) XDG_RUNTIME_DIR= LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash Profiles: Profile0 (Default) - LastVersion=16.0.2/20121025212310 (In use) RelatedPackageVersions: icedtea-7-plugin 1.3-1ubuntu1.1 google-talkplugin 3.10.2.0-1 rhythmbox-mozilla 2.97-1ubuntu5 totem-mozilla 3.4.3-0ubuntu4 RfKill: RunningIncompatibleAddons: False SourcePackage: firefox UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install) WifiSyslog: dmi.bios.date: 11/26/2008 dmi.bios.vendor: Dell Inc. dmi.bios.version: A04 dmi.board.name: 0P792H dmi.board.vendor: Dell Inc. dmi.board.version: A04 dmi.chassis.type: 8 dmi.chassis.vendor: Dell Inc. dmi.chassis.version: A04 dmi.modalias: dmi:bvnDellInc.:bvrA04:bd11/26/2008:svnDellInc.:pnStudio1737:pvrA04:rvnDellInc.:rn0P792H:rvrA04:cvnDellInc.:ct8:cvrA04: dmi.product.name: Studio 1737 dmi.product.version: A04 dmi.sys.vendor: Dell Inc. ** Affects: firefox (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Tags: amd64 apport-bug quantal running-unity -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to firefox in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1077559 Title: Scroll Bar Width is Too Narrow Uneasily Adjustable Status in “firefox” package in Ubuntu: New Bug description: I've been using the Internet since 1993 before and during the first year