[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf
** Branch linked: lp:~xubuntu-dev/ubuntu-seeds/xubuntu.trusty ** Branch linked: lp:~kubuntu-dev/ubuntu-seeds/kubuntu.trusty ** Branch linked: lp:~ubuntustudio-dev/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntustudio.trusty -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to language-selector in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh- tw.conf Status in Ubuntu Seeds: In Progress Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “ttf-wqy-microhei” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: In quantal and previous version of ubuntu, we use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as default Chinese (Traditional) fonts for Sans, Monospace. However, the default font is set to WenQuanYi Zen Hei in 0.110 version provided by Raring. It is a regression that most of Chinese (Traditional) users don't appreciate this change. We would like to use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as before. I changed the conf provided by raring to fit we Chinese (Traditional) users more to have WenQuanYi Micro Hei back. Please accept the patch. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-seeds/+bug/1173571/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf
** Branch linked: lp:~ubuntu-gnome-dev/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntu-gnome.trusty ** Branch linked: lp:~kubuntu-dev/ubuntu-seeds/kubuntu-active.trusty ** Branch linked: lp:~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/edubuntu.trusty -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to language-selector in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh- tw.conf Status in Ubuntu Seeds: In Progress Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “ttf-wqy-microhei” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: In quantal and previous version of ubuntu, we use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as default Chinese (Traditional) fonts for Sans, Monospace. However, the default font is set to WenQuanYi Zen Hei in 0.110 version provided by Raring. It is a regression that most of Chinese (Traditional) users don't appreciate this change. We would like to use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as before. I changed the conf provided by raring to fit we Chinese (Traditional) users more to have WenQuanYi Micro Hei back. Please accept the patch. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-seeds/+bug/1173571/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf
An issue with an undesired font being selected has been reported at bug #1227034. I would recommend everyone with an interest in the topic to get involved in that bug. Closing this bug report now. ** Changed in: ubuntu-seeds Status: In Progress = Fix Released -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to language-selector in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh- tw.conf Status in Ubuntu Seeds: Fix Released Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “ttf-wqy-microhei” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: In quantal and previous version of ubuntu, we use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as default Chinese (Traditional) fonts for Sans, Monospace. However, the default font is set to WenQuanYi Zen Hei in 0.110 version provided by Raring. It is a regression that most of Chinese (Traditional) users don't appreciate this change. We would like to use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as before. I changed the conf provided by raring to fit we Chinese (Traditional) users more to have WenQuanYi Micro Hei back. Please accept the patch. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-seeds/+bug/1173571/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf
Thanks for the explanation, Jack. Then I suppose that fonts-droid is already shipped in Ubuntu Kylin just like in standard Ubuntu. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to language-selector in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh- tw.conf Status in Ubuntu Seeds: In Progress Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “ttf-wqy-microhei” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: In quantal and previous version of ubuntu, we use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as default Chinese (Traditional) fonts for Sans, Monospace. However, the default font is set to WenQuanYi Zen Hei in 0.110 version provided by Raring. It is a regression that most of Chinese (Traditional) users don't appreciate this change. We would like to use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as before. I changed the conf provided by raring to fit we Chinese (Traditional) users more to have WenQuanYi Micro Hei back. Please accept the patch. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-seeds/+bug/1173571/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf
** Branch linked: lp:~gunnarhj/ubuntu-seeds/lubuntu.trusty-lp1173571 ** Branch linked: lp:~gunnarhj/ubuntu-seeds/xubuntu.trusty-lp1173571 ** Branch linked: lp:~gunnarhj/ubuntu-seeds/kubuntu.trusty-lp1173571 ** Branch linked: lp:~gunnarhj/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntustudio.trusty- lp1173571 ** Branch linked: lp:~gunnarhj/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntu-gnome.trusty- lp1173571 ** Branch linked: lp:~gunnarhj/ubuntu-seeds/kubuntu-active.trusty- lp1173571 ** Branch linked: lp:~gunnarhj/ubuntu-seeds/edubuntu.trusty-lp1173571 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to language-selector in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh- tw.conf Status in Ubuntu Seeds: In Progress Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “ttf-wqy-microhei” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: In quantal and previous version of ubuntu, we use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as default Chinese (Traditional) fonts for Sans, Monospace. However, the default font is set to WenQuanYi Zen Hei in 0.110 version provided by Raring. It is a regression that most of Chinese (Traditional) users don't appreciate this change. We would like to use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as before. I changed the conf provided by raring to fit we Chinese (Traditional) users more to have WenQuanYi Micro Hei back. Please accept the patch. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-seeds/+bug/1173571/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf
fonts-droid has been included in the Ubuntu seed for a few months now, and I have proposed that flavor distros change their seeds in the same way. @Aron: I couldn't find any ubuntukylin.trusty branch in ubuntu-seeds. Where did you hide it? ;-) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to language-selector in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh- tw.conf Status in Ubuntu Seeds: In Progress Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “ttf-wqy-microhei” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: In quantal and previous version of ubuntu, we use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as default Chinese (Traditional) fonts for Sans, Monospace. However, the default font is set to WenQuanYi Zen Hei in 0.110 version provided by Raring. It is a regression that most of Chinese (Traditional) users don't appreciate this change. We would like to use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as before. I changed the conf provided by raring to fit we Chinese (Traditional) users more to have WenQuanYi Micro Hei back. Please accept the patch. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-seeds/+bug/1173571/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf
@gunnarhj, Ubuntu Kylin doesn't have seed, we only use default-settings package to customize. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to language-selector in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh- tw.conf Status in Ubuntu Seeds: In Progress Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “ttf-wqy-microhei” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: In quantal and previous version of ubuntu, we use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as default Chinese (Traditional) fonts for Sans, Monospace. However, the default font is set to WenQuanYi Zen Hei in 0.110 version provided by Raring. It is a regression that most of Chinese (Traditional) users don't appreciate this change. We would like to use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as before. I changed the conf provided by raring to fit we Chinese (Traditional) users more to have WenQuanYi Micro Hei back. Please accept the patch. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-seeds/+bug/1173571/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf
See that. Probably right now it's the best arrangement for Hong Kong users as well given currently (limited) resource. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to language-selector in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh- tw.conf Status in Ubuntu Seeds: In Progress Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “ttf-wqy-microhei” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: In quantal and previous version of ubuntu, we use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as default Chinese (Traditional) fonts for Sans, Monospace. However, the default font is set to WenQuanYi Zen Hei in 0.110 version provided by Raring. It is a regression that most of Chinese (Traditional) users don't appreciate this change. We would like to use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as before. I changed the conf provided by raring to fit we Chinese (Traditional) users more to have WenQuanYi Micro Hei back. Please accept the patch. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-seeds/+bug/1173571/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf
In reply to comment 41: The 2 reports are not entirely related. But I hope this report is only limited to the scope of 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf. The case for Hong Kong is more serious, in that *none* of the fonts described above have enough coverage of Hong Kong Supplementary Character Set (the only one good enough is AR PL UMing HK). Hong Kong users currently don't even have such luxury to discuss whether a font looks good or not. I'll check Droid fallback font to see what's missing and provide comment on whether it's good enough for use in Hong Kong as well. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to language-selector in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh- tw.conf Status in Ubuntu Seeds: In Progress Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “ttf-wqy-microhei” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: In quantal and previous version of ubuntu, we use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as default Chinese (Traditional) fonts for Sans, Monospace. However, the default font is set to WenQuanYi Zen Hei in 0.110 version provided by Raring. It is a regression that most of Chinese (Traditional) users don't appreciate this change. We would like to use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as before. I changed the conf provided by raring to fit we Chinese (Traditional) users more to have WenQuanYi Micro Hei back. Please accept the patch. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-seeds/+bug/1173571/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf
Actually, so far this bug has resulted in the changes stated in comment #21, #24 and #26, so Droid Sans Fallback is indeed used in zh-hk already. http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/trusty/language- selector/trusty/view/head:/fontconfig/69-language-selector-zh-hk.conf It's also installed by default for all users of the Ubuntu desktop. Hope you'll find that we are on the right track. ;-) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to language-selector in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh- tw.conf Status in Ubuntu Seeds: In Progress Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “ttf-wqy-microhei” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: In quantal and previous version of ubuntu, we use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as default Chinese (Traditional) fonts for Sans, Monospace. However, the default font is set to WenQuanYi Zen Hei in 0.110 version provided by Raring. It is a regression that most of Chinese (Traditional) users don't appreciate this change. We would like to use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as before. I changed the conf provided by raring to fit we Chinese (Traditional) users more to have WenQuanYi Micro Hei back. Please accept the patch. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-seeds/+bug/1173571/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf
Bug #1270647 is possibly related. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to language-selector in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh- tw.conf Status in Ubuntu Seeds: In Progress Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “ttf-wqy-microhei” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: In quantal and previous version of ubuntu, we use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as default Chinese (Traditional) fonts for Sans, Monospace. However, the default font is set to WenQuanYi Zen Hei in 0.110 version provided by Raring. It is a regression that most of Chinese (Traditional) users don't appreciate this change. We would like to use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as before. I changed the conf provided by raring to fit we Chinese (Traditional) users more to have WenQuanYi Micro Hei back. Please accept the patch. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-seeds/+bug/1173571/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf
Yes, it is better to use Western serif font listed before AR PL UMing for serif font family if we want to have a better looking for Western characters. In short, my point is to use those fonts in better compliance with Taiwan's standard instead of those are not. I am not willing to have better Chinese characters but sacrifice the compliance of Taiwan's standard. Of course, that is only my personal opinion. I can not represent all Taiwan users. BTW, I prefer free fonts than non-free. Free means we have chances to fix problems. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to language-selector in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh- tw.conf Status in Ubuntu Seeds: In Progress Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “ttf-wqy-microhei” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: In quantal and previous version of ubuntu, we use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as default Chinese (Traditional) fonts for Sans, Monospace. However, the default font is set to WenQuanYi Zen Hei in 0.110 version provided by Raring. It is a regression that most of Chinese (Traditional) users don't appreciate this change. We would like to use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as before. I changed the conf provided by raring to fit we Chinese (Traditional) users more to have WenQuanYi Micro Hei back. Please accept the patch. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-seeds/+bug/1173571/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf
OK, I will try to figure out which configuration play a big role to list AR PL UMing as the first one in serif style when I am free, and then file another bug report for that issue. It might around Chinese new year though. :P -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to language-selector in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh- tw.conf Status in Ubuntu Seeds: In Progress Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “ttf-wqy-microhei” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: In quantal and previous version of ubuntu, we use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as default Chinese (Traditional) fonts for Sans, Monospace. However, the default font is set to WenQuanYi Zen Hei in 0.110 version provided by Raring. It is a regression that most of Chinese (Traditional) users don't appreciate this change. We would like to use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as before. I changed the conf provided by raring to fit we Chinese (Traditional) users more to have WenQuanYi Micro Hei back. Please accept the patch. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-seeds/+bug/1173571/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf
There is another way to fix this problem. That is make another Droid Sans Taiwanese font just like the way that Droid Sans Japanese font does. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to language-selector in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh- tw.conf Status in Ubuntu Seeds: In Progress Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “ttf-wqy-microhei” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: In quantal and previous version of ubuntu, we use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as default Chinese (Traditional) fonts for Sans, Monospace. However, the default font is set to WenQuanYi Zen Hei in 0.110 version provided by Raring. It is a regression that most of Chinese (Traditional) users don't appreciate this change. We would like to use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as before. I changed the conf provided by raring to fit we Chinese (Traditional) users more to have WenQuanYi Micro Hei back. Please accept the patch. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-seeds/+bug/1173571/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf
@fourdolars: I agree with the part helping the development of CJKUnifonts. However, it is no sense to use AR PL UMing for all styles as AR PL UMing is a serif style font and can only be used in serif part. BTW, the configuration is using AR PL UMing now. So the issue here is which font we should use for sans-serif and monospace part for Chinese. Monospace part is no difference for Chinese to use sans-serif or monospace here because we fallback from DejaVu Sans Mono and Chinese characters are monospaced already. It is always to use open font first that we can improve them by the power of the community. The existing sans-serif style open Chinese fonts are Droid Sans Fallback, WenquanYi Microhei and Zenhei, cwTeX Yuan and Hei Bold, and cwTeX Q Yuan and Hei. The reason why I suggested Droid was written above as Wenquanyi project has stopped development for many years while Droid is still being maintained and releasing new versions. cwTeX fonts are not covering as many characters as droid does, we still have to fallback to Droid to get better Chinese support, but cwTeX and Droid does not share the same font height and width which is not a good result though. Using open fonts makes us have the right to improve the fonts. Droid Sans Fallback has good coverage and uses Apache license, so it should reduce the work for the community to improve in contrast to cwTeX fonts and it's derived fonts. However, we still have other improvement way for other sans-serif style Chinese font. One is to fork Wenquanyi Microhei which some of my friends are planning to do, and the other is to expand the development of cwTeX or cwTeX Q fonts projects. If you don't want to see Droid Sans Fallback which follows GB standard, we can found a project or create a subproject under CJKUnifonts to modify it. It might be a quicker way to have more efficiency. If you cannot accept Droid Sans Fallback however, we can think about choosing cwTeX Q Hei instead and help to improve the font in community way. It will takes more time and work to have the good quality and high quantity as droid font does though. For the information about typography issue to match Chinese font with English font, please see: 1. http://blog.justfont.com/2013/12/popular-typography/ 2. http://breezymove.blogspot.tw/2013/11/cantarell.html This post uses Cantarell as example, but share the same idea with this issue. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to language-selector in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh- tw.conf Status in Ubuntu Seeds: In Progress Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “ttf-wqy-microhei” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: In quantal and previous version of ubuntu, we use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as default Chinese (Traditional) fonts for Sans, Monospace. However, the default font is set to WenQuanYi Zen Hei in 0.110 version provided by Raring. It is a regression that most of Chinese (Traditional) users don't appreciate this change. We would like to use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as before. I changed the conf provided by raring to fit we Chinese (Traditional) users more to have WenQuanYi Micro Hei back. Please accept the patch. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-seeds/+bug/1173571/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf
Just FYI, one of the reasons why WQY Microhei is not maintained is that, at some time a Droid Sans Fallback update released by Google contains many more characters than in Microhei, while the project's initial goal was to expand the original Droid Sans to get better coverage. It's currently impossible to get the best appearance for character if no hand-crafted hinting is involved for each type face, even WQY project had that pushed forward a large step while making Microhei, the project leader still said that quality of the font will never match those fonts made by commercial companies because of the limited availability of volunteer manpower. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to language-selector in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh- tw.conf Status in Ubuntu Seeds: In Progress Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “ttf-wqy-microhei” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: In quantal and previous version of ubuntu, we use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as default Chinese (Traditional) fonts for Sans, Monospace. However, the default font is set to WenQuanYi Zen Hei in 0.110 version provided by Raring. It is a regression that most of Chinese (Traditional) users don't appreciate this change. We would like to use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as before. I changed the conf provided by raring to fit we Chinese (Traditional) users more to have WenQuanYi Micro Hei back. Please accept the patch. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-seeds/+bug/1173571/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf
I suggest to use the fonts as the following order. Ubuntu, AR PL, cwTeX, MOE, and then CNS11643. Pro: Better looking in English and better following of Taiwan standard. Con: The programs that don't have font-config suppprt will be not able to see Chinese characters. If we find the programs don't support font-config, we go to provide patcheset to upstream one by one. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to language-selector in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh- tw.conf Status in Ubuntu Seeds: In Progress Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “ttf-wqy-microhei” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: In quantal and previous version of ubuntu, we use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as default Chinese (Traditional) fonts for Sans, Monospace. However, the default font is set to WenQuanYi Zen Hei in 0.110 version provided by Raring. It is a regression that most of Chinese (Traditional) users don't appreciate this change. We would like to use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as before. I changed the conf provided by raring to fit we Chinese (Traditional) users more to have WenQuanYi Micro Hei back. Please accept the patch. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-seeds/+bug/1173571/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf
Your suggestion will create another issue on typography that ubuntu font is sans-serif style while AR PL UMing and CNS11643 are serif style. Plus, AR PL UMing covers more characters than cwTeX and MOE, there is low probability fallbacking to them. And we have already been using AR PL UMing for serif style in the configuration. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to language-selector in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh- tw.conf Status in Ubuntu Seeds: In Progress Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “ttf-wqy-microhei” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: In quantal and previous version of ubuntu, we use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as default Chinese (Traditional) fonts for Sans, Monospace. However, the default font is set to WenQuanYi Zen Hei in 0.110 version provided by Raring. It is a regression that most of Chinese (Traditional) users don't appreciate this change. We would like to use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as before. I changed the conf provided by raring to fit we Chinese (Traditional) users more to have WenQuanYi Micro Hei back. Please accept the patch. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-seeds/+bug/1173571/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf
How about to find another English font to replace Ubuntu font in serif style? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to language-selector in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh- tw.conf Status in Ubuntu Seeds: In Progress Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “ttf-wqy-microhei” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: In quantal and previous version of ubuntu, we use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as default Chinese (Traditional) fonts for Sans, Monospace. However, the default font is set to WenQuanYi Zen Hei in 0.110 version provided by Raring. It is a regression that most of Chinese (Traditional) users don't appreciate this change. We would like to use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as before. I changed the conf provided by raring to fit we Chinese (Traditional) users more to have WenQuanYi Micro Hei back. Please accept the patch. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-seeds/+bug/1173571/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf
I don't actually get what you mean here. But I guess that you are talking about it is better to use Western serif font listed before AR PL UMing for serif font family. 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf does not affect the result about serif font family strongly. It is always using AR PL UMing first before DejaVu Serif no matter how you change 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf. I doubt there are some other configurations in combination may have assign AR PL UMing higher priority. And if you want Western font listed before AR PL UMing we have to investigate further to solve the issue. You can see comment #14 for my previous test on changing zh-tw.conf. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to language-selector in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh- tw.conf Status in Ubuntu Seeds: In Progress Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “ttf-wqy-microhei” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: In quantal and previous version of ubuntu, we use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as default Chinese (Traditional) fonts for Sans, Monospace. However, the default font is set to WenQuanYi Zen Hei in 0.110 version provided by Raring. It is a regression that most of Chinese (Traditional) users don't appreciate this change. We would like to use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as before. I changed the conf provided by raring to fit we Chinese (Traditional) users more to have WenQuanYi Micro Hei back. Please accept the patch. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-seeds/+bug/1173571/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf
@zerng07: I think CJKUnifonts does want to follow Taiwan's standard (CNS11643), China's standard (GB18030), and other countries' standard also. However this project seema to stop the development since 2010 (http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/CJKUnifonts/). CJKUnifonts is a truely open source project and it also has many bugs needed to fix. fonts-moe-standard and fonts-cns11643 are the fonts released by Taiwan government, and they are licensed by CC-BY-ND (Non-Free). The Debian package maintainers are both Taiwanese. I am the maintainer of fonts-cns11643. As you said some glyphs of AR PL UMing/UKai don't follow Taiwan standard. I agree with you. But I think they are bugs and we should help to fix them as a FLOSS member. I also agree that WenQuanYi Micro Hei looks better than AR PL UMing/UKai. But remember, WenQuanYi Micro Hei follows GB18030 and it is not compliant to CNS11643. I think we should use AR PL UMing/UKai as the default fonts for Taiwan users, and help the development of CJKUnifonts to follow Taiwan standard. Or we can help the development of WenQuanYi to include the support of CNS11643. However at this point I think AR PL UMing/UKai is better than WenQuanYi Micro Hei to follow Taiwan standard. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to language-selector in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh- tw.conf Status in Ubuntu Seeds: In Progress Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “ttf-wqy-microhei” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: In quantal and previous version of ubuntu, we use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as default Chinese (Traditional) fonts for Sans, Monospace. However, the default font is set to WenQuanYi Zen Hei in 0.110 version provided by Raring. It is a regression that most of Chinese (Traditional) users don't appreciate this change. We would like to use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as before. I changed the conf provided by raring to fit we Chinese (Traditional) users more to have WenQuanYi Micro Hei back. Please accept the patch. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-seeds/+bug/1173571/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf
BTW, there are other fonts: fonts-cwtex-* following Taiwan standard and licensed by GPL-2+. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to language-selector in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh- tw.conf Status in Ubuntu Seeds: In Progress Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “ttf-wqy-microhei” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: In quantal and previous version of ubuntu, we use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as default Chinese (Traditional) fonts for Sans, Monospace. However, the default font is set to WenQuanYi Zen Hei in 0.110 version provided by Raring. It is a regression that most of Chinese (Traditional) users don't appreciate this change. We would like to use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as before. I changed the conf provided by raring to fit we Chinese (Traditional) users more to have WenQuanYi Micro Hei back. Please accept the patch. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-seeds/+bug/1173571/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf
@fourdollars Actually, CJKUnifonts (AR PL UMing and AR PL UKai) do not follow Taiwan standard too. That's because they both were composed of Traditional style and Simplified style fonts before. AR PL UMing is compoesed of 文鼎細上海宋繁 and 文鼎報宋簡 while AR PL UKai is composed of 文鼎中楷繁 and 文鼎中楷簡. For example, 角 from AR PL UMing TW is using Simplified style. That's the proof. fonts-moe-standard and fonts-cns11643 fonts are not maintained by open source community and have no promising future to improve by open source community. @happyaron Yes, I agree with you. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to language-selector in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh- tw.conf Status in Ubuntu Seeds: In Progress Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “ttf-wqy-microhei” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: In quantal and previous version of ubuntu, we use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as default Chinese (Traditional) fonts for Sans, Monospace. However, the default font is set to WenQuanYi Zen Hei in 0.110 version provided by Raring. It is a regression that most of Chinese (Traditional) users don't appreciate this change. We would like to use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as before. I changed the conf provided by raring to fit we Chinese (Traditional) users more to have WenQuanYi Micro Hei back. Please accept the patch. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-seeds/+bug/1173571/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf
The fonts that follow Taiwan standard are fonts-arphic-uming, fonts-arphic-ukai, fonts-moe-standard-kai, fonts-moe-standard-song fonts-cns11643-kai and fonts-cns11643-sung. I think we should avoid using other fonts in 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf. For more information, please see the following links. (traditional Chinese) http://blog.justfont.com/?p=5305 http://www.arphic.com/tw/news/epaper/agent/201108/font_technology.htm -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to language-selector in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh- tw.conf Status in Ubuntu Seeds: In Progress Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “ttf-wqy-microhei” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: In quantal and previous version of ubuntu, we use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as default Chinese (Traditional) fonts for Sans, Monospace. However, the default font is set to WenQuanYi Zen Hei in 0.110 version provided by Raring. It is a regression that most of Chinese (Traditional) users don't appreciate this change. We would like to use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as before. I changed the conf provided by raring to fit we Chinese (Traditional) users more to have WenQuanYi Micro Hei back. Please accept the patch. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-seeds/+bug/1173571/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf
But Droid Sans can give way better screen experience than the alternatives you pointed above. And I believe it's more reasonable to default to those fonts in printing materials, i.e. in libreoffice. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to language-selector in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh- tw.conf Status in Ubuntu Seeds: In Progress Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “ttf-wqy-microhei” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: In quantal and previous version of ubuntu, we use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as default Chinese (Traditional) fonts for Sans, Monospace. However, the default font is set to WenQuanYi Zen Hei in 0.110 version provided by Raring. It is a regression that most of Chinese (Traditional) users don't appreciate this change. We would like to use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as before. I changed the conf provided by raring to fit we Chinese (Traditional) users more to have WenQuanYi Micro Hei back. Please accept the patch. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-seeds/+bug/1173571/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf
fonts-droid will now be seeded instead of ttf-wqy-microhei in the Ubuntu trusty ISOs. http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntu.trusty/revision/2189 Keeping the Ubuntu Seeds task open, since we should make this change for other distros if it proves to be well received in Ubuntu. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to language-selector in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh- tw.conf Status in Ubuntu Seeds: In Progress Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “ttf-wqy-microhei” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: In quantal and previous version of ubuntu, we use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as default Chinese (Traditional) fonts for Sans, Monospace. However, the default font is set to WenQuanYi Zen Hei in 0.110 version provided by Raring. It is a regression that most of Chinese (Traditional) users don't appreciate this change. We would like to use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as before. I changed the conf provided by raring to fit we Chinese (Traditional) users more to have WenQuanYi Micro Hei back. Please accept the patch. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-seeds/+bug/1173571/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf
** Also affects: ubuntu-seeds Importance: Undecided Status: New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to language-selector in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh- tw.conf Status in Ubuntu Seeds: New Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “ttf-wqy-microhei” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: In quantal and previous version of ubuntu, we use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as default Chinese (Traditional) fonts for Sans, Monospace. However, the default font is set to WenQuanYi Zen Hei in 0.110 version provided by Raring. It is a regression that most of Chinese (Traditional) users don't appreciate this change. We would like to use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as before. I changed the conf provided by raring to fit we Chinese (Traditional) users more to have WenQuanYi Micro Hei back. Please accept the patch. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-seeds/+bug/1173571/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf
** Branch linked: lp:~gunnarhj/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntu.trusty-lp1173571 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to language-selector in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh- tw.conf Status in Ubuntu Seeds: In Progress Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “ttf-wqy-microhei” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: In quantal and previous version of ubuntu, we use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as default Chinese (Traditional) fonts for Sans, Monospace. However, the default font is set to WenQuanYi Zen Hei in 0.110 version provided by Raring. It is a regression that most of Chinese (Traditional) users don't appreciate this change. We would like to use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as before. I changed the conf provided by raring to fit we Chinese (Traditional) users more to have WenQuanYi Micro Hei back. Please accept the patch. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-seeds/+bug/1173571/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf
** Changed in: ubuntu-seeds Status: New = In Progress ** Changed in: ubuntu-seeds Assignee: (unassigned) = Gunnar Hjalmarsson (gunnarhj) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to language-selector in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh- tw.conf Status in Ubuntu Seeds: In Progress Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “ttf-wqy-microhei” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: In quantal and previous version of ubuntu, we use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as default Chinese (Traditional) fonts for Sans, Monospace. However, the default font is set to WenQuanYi Zen Hei in 0.110 version provided by Raring. It is a regression that most of Chinese (Traditional) users don't appreciate this change. We would like to use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as before. I changed the conf provided by raring to fit we Chinese (Traditional) users more to have WenQuanYi Micro Hei back. Please accept the patch. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-seeds/+bug/1173571/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf
ttf-wqy-microhei is seeded too. Should this be changed? ttf-wqy-microhei (from ttf-wqy-microhei) is seeded in: edubuntu: dvd kubuntu-active: daily-live kubuntu: daily-live lubuntu: daily, daily-live, daily-preinstalled ubuntu-gnome: daily-live ubuntu: daily-live ubuntukylin: daily-live ubuntustudio: dvd xubuntu: daily-live -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to language-selector in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh- tw.conf Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “ttf-wqy-microhei” package in Ubuntu: In Progress Bug description: In quantal and previous version of ubuntu, we use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as default Chinese (Traditional) fonts for Sans, Monospace. However, the default font is set to WenQuanYi Zen Hei in 0.110 version provided by Raring. It is a regression that most of Chinese (Traditional) users don't appreciate this change. We would like to use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as before. I changed the conf provided by raring to fit we Chinese (Traditional) users more to have WenQuanYi Micro Hei back. Please accept the patch. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/1173571/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf
fonts-android is not in main. laney@raleigh rmadison -S -s trusty fonts-android fonts-android |1:4.3-1 | trusty/universe | source fonts-droid |1:4.3-1 | trusty/universe | all fonts-roboto |1:4.3-1 | trusty/universe | all -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to language-selector in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh- tw.conf Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “ttf-wqy-microhei” package in Ubuntu: In Progress Bug description: In quantal and previous version of ubuntu, we use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as default Chinese (Traditional) fonts for Sans, Monospace. However, the default font is set to WenQuanYi Zen Hei in 0.110 version provided by Raring. It is a regression that most of Chinese (Traditional) users don't appreciate this change. We would like to use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as before. I changed the conf provided by raring to fit we Chinese (Traditional) users more to have WenQuanYi Micro Hei back. Please accept the patch. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/1173571/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf
** Branch linked: lp:~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/trusty/ttf-wqy-microhei /trusty-proposed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to language-selector in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh- tw.conf Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “ttf-wqy-microhei” package in Ubuntu: In Progress Bug description: In quantal and previous version of ubuntu, we use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as default Chinese (Traditional) fonts for Sans, Monospace. However, the default font is set to WenQuanYi Zen Hei in 0.110 version provided by Raring. It is a regression that most of Chinese (Traditional) users don't appreciate this change. We would like to use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as before. I changed the conf provided by raring to fit we Chinese (Traditional) users more to have WenQuanYi Micro Hei back. Please accept the patch. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/1173571/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf
This bug was fixed in the package ttf-wqy-microhei - 0.2.0-beta-1.1ubuntu4 --- ttf-wqy-microhei (0.2.0-beta-1.1ubuntu4) trusty; urgency=low * debian/65-ttf-wqy-microhei.conf: Outdated DejaVu bindings removed (LP: #1173571). -- Gunnar Hjalmarsson gunna...@ubuntu.com Wed, 06 Nov 2013 03:23:00 +0100 ** Changed in: ttf-wqy-microhei (Ubuntu) Status: In Progress = Fix Released -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to language-selector in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh- tw.conf Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “ttf-wqy-microhei” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: In quantal and previous version of ubuntu, we use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as default Chinese (Traditional) fonts for Sans, Monospace. However, the default font is set to WenQuanYi Zen Hei in 0.110 version provided by Raring. It is a regression that most of Chinese (Traditional) users don't appreciate this change. We would like to use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as before. I changed the conf provided by raring to fit we Chinese (Traditional) users more to have WenQuanYi Micro Hei back. Please accept the patch. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/1173571/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf
Right, Iain, I was wrong when I said in comment #20 that fonts-android is already in main, and have now filed a MIR application as bug #1249132. On 2013-11-07 12:12, Iain Lane wrote: ttf-wqy-microhei is seeded too. Should this be changed? Seeding fonts-droid instead of ttf-wqy-microhei is reasonably a logical consequential step, and seems to be needed to complete the MIR process... However, I'd suggest that we wait a couple of months to see if Droid Sans Fallback proves to work smoothly and gets broadly accepted by Chinese users. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to language-selector in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh- tw.conf Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “ttf-wqy-microhei” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: In quantal and previous version of ubuntu, we use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as default Chinese (Traditional) fonts for Sans, Monospace. However, the default font is set to WenQuanYi Zen Hei in 0.110 version provided by Raring. It is a regression that most of Chinese (Traditional) users don't appreciate this change. We would like to use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as before. I changed the conf provided by raring to fit we Chinese (Traditional) users more to have WenQuanYi Micro Hei back. Please accept the patch. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/1173571/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf
** Branch linked: lp:~gunnarhj/ubuntu/trusty/ttf-wqy-microhei/lp-1173571 ** Branch linked: lp:ubuntu/language-selector -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to language-selector in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh- tw.conf Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: In Progress Status in “ttf-wqy-microhei” package in Ubuntu: In Progress Bug description: In quantal and previous version of ubuntu, we use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as default Chinese (Traditional) fonts for Sans, Monospace. However, the default font is set to WenQuanYi Zen Hei in 0.110 version provided by Raring. It is a regression that most of Chinese (Traditional) users don't appreciate this change. We would like to use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as before. I changed the conf provided by raring to fit we Chinese (Traditional) users more to have WenQuanYi Micro Hei back. Please accept the patch. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/1173571/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf
This bug was fixed in the package language-selector - 0.118 --- language-selector (0.118) trusty; urgency=low * data/pkg_depends: ttf-wqy-zenhei replaced with fonts-droid for Chinese (LP: #1173571). * fontconfig/69-language-selector-zh-hk.conf, -zh-cn.conf, -zh-sg.conf: Droid Sans Fallback moved to top. * fontconfig/69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf: Outdated DejaVu bindings removed (LP: #1173571). -- Gunnar Hjalmarsson gunna...@ubuntu.com Wed, 06 Nov 2013 14:58:00 +0100 ** Changed in: language-selector (Ubuntu) Status: In Progress = Fix Released -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to language-selector in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh- tw.conf Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “ttf-wqy-microhei” package in Ubuntu: In Progress Bug description: In quantal and previous version of ubuntu, we use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as default Chinese (Traditional) fonts for Sans, Monospace. However, the default font is set to WenQuanYi Zen Hei in 0.110 version provided by Raring. It is a regression that most of Chinese (Traditional) users don't appreciate this change. We would like to use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as before. I changed the conf provided by raring to fit we Chinese (Traditional) users more to have WenQuanYi Micro Hei back. Please accept the patch. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/1173571/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf
Could we start the MIP for fonts-droid these days to finish this issue? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to language-selector in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh- tw.conf Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: In Progress Status in “ttf-wqy-microhei” package in Ubuntu: In Progress Bug description: In quantal and previous version of ubuntu, we use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as default Chinese (Traditional) fonts for Sans, Monospace. However, the default font is set to WenQuanYi Zen Hei in 0.110 version provided by Raring. It is a regression that most of Chinese (Traditional) users don't appreciate this change. We would like to use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as before. I changed the conf provided by raring to fit we Chinese (Traditional) users more to have WenQuanYi Micro Hei back. Please accept the patch. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/1173571/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf
Gunnar Hjalmarsson (gunnarhj) wrote on 2013-05-29: Would it possibly make sense to make those changes for traditional Chinese, while keeping WenQuanYi Zen Hei for simplified Chinese? I think it is much more readible and pretty for WQY Micro Hei than WQY Zen Hei in simplified Chinese reader's eyes too. So, Please change WenQuanYi Micro Hei back. or move to fonts-droid. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to language-selector in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh- tw.conf Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: In Progress Status in “ttf-wqy-microhei” package in Ubuntu: In Progress Bug description: In quantal and previous version of ubuntu, we use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as default Chinese (Traditional) fonts for Sans, Monospace. However, the default font is set to WenQuanYi Zen Hei in 0.110 version provided by Raring. It is a regression that most of Chinese (Traditional) users don't appreciate this change. We would like to use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as before. I changed the conf provided by raring to fit we Chinese (Traditional) users more to have WenQuanYi Micro Hei back. Please accept the patch. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/1173571/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf
I think that the changes you made are right. I STRONGLY recommend fonts-droid instead of wqy-microhei because WenQuanYi project is not having any major progress or new releases in last three years. Plus, wqy-microhei fail to display Korean characters. It is not solved for some years since the day the bug was reported. If we stick to wqy-microhei, I think that we still have to move to fonts-droid one day in the future for the reasons above. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to language-selector in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh- tw.conf Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: In Progress Status in “ttf-wqy-microhei” package in Ubuntu: In Progress Bug description: In quantal and previous version of ubuntu, we use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as default Chinese (Traditional) fonts for Sans, Monospace. However, the default font is set to WenQuanYi Zen Hei in 0.110 version provided by Raring. It is a regression that most of Chinese (Traditional) users don't appreciate this change. We would like to use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as before. I changed the conf provided by raring to fit we Chinese (Traditional) users more to have WenQuanYi Micro Hei back. Please accept the patch. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/1173571/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf
** Branch linked: lp:~gunnarhj/ubuntu/saucy/language-selector/fonts- droid ** Branch linked: lp:~gunnarhj/ubuntu/saucy/ttf-wqy-microhei/fonts-droid -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to language-selector in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh- tw.conf Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: In Progress Status in “ttf-wqy-microhei” package in Ubuntu: In Progress Bug description: In quantal and previous version of ubuntu, we use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as default Chinese (Traditional) fonts for Sans, Monospace. However, the default font is set to WenQuanYi Zen Hei in 0.110 version provided by Raring. It is a regression that most of Chinese (Traditional) users don't appreciate this change. We would like to use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as before. I changed the conf provided by raring to fit we Chinese (Traditional) users more to have WenQuanYi Micro Hei back. Please accept the patch. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/1173571/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf
Thanks for the tests and analyses! I have prepared a language-selector branch and a ttf-wqy-microhei branch with the changes you propose. Please check them out carefully to help prevent misunderstandings. There is a but, though. ttf-wqy-microhei is already in the main pocket of the Ubuntu archive, while fonts-droid is currently in universe. Before committing the proposed language-selector changes, fonts-droid needs to get included in main through a special process: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionProcess This is doable, of course, but before we start a MIR application, I'd like to ask if basically the same appearance can be achieved by using wqy-microhei instead, i.e. as you initially suggested. If it can, the wqy-microhei path seems to be preferable, after all. ** Also affects: ttf-wqy-microhei (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Changed in: language-selector (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = Medium ** Changed in: language-selector (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = In Progress ** Changed in: language-selector (Ubuntu) Assignee: (unassigned) = Gunnar Hjalmarsson (gunnarhj) ** Changed in: ttf-wqy-microhei (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = Medium ** Changed in: ttf-wqy-microhei (Ubuntu) Status: New = In Progress ** Changed in: ttf-wqy-microhei (Ubuntu) Assignee: (unassigned) = Gunnar Hjalmarsson (gunnarhj) ** Tags removed: patch -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to language-selector in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh- tw.conf Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: In Progress Status in “ttf-wqy-microhei” package in Ubuntu: In Progress Bug description: In quantal and previous version of ubuntu, we use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as default Chinese (Traditional) fonts for Sans, Monospace. However, the default font is set to WenQuanYi Zen Hei in 0.110 version provided by Raring. It is a regression that most of Chinese (Traditional) users don't appreciate this change. We would like to use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as before. I changed the conf provided by raring to fit we Chinese (Traditional) users more to have WenQuanYi Micro Hei back. Please accept the patch. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/1173571/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf
Hi, could anyone who could fix or improve the configurations review my proposal? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to language-selector in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh- tw.conf Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: In quantal and previous version of ubuntu, we use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as default Chinese (Traditional) fonts for Sans, Monospace. However, the default font is set to WenQuanYi Zen Hei in 0.110 version provided by Raring. It is a regression that most of Chinese (Traditional) users don't appreciate this change. We would like to use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as before. I changed the conf provided by raring to fit we Chinese (Traditional) users more to have WenQuanYi Micro Hei back. Please accept the patch. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/1173571/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf
After my testing, the good news is that insatalling fonts-droid will provide better visual appearence and more readible than WQY zen-hei in Chinese charaters. However, 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf has a weird UNACCEPTABLE side effect. It matches DejaVu Serif for sans-serif and monospace first. The result of 'fc-match -s serif' returns uming.ttc: AR PL UMing TW Light DejaVuSerif.ttf: DejaVu Serif Book DejaVuSerif-Bold.ttf: DejaVu Serif Bold DejaVuSans.ttf: DejaVu Sans Book DejaVuSans-Bold.ttf: DejaVu Sans Bold uming.ttc: AR PL UMing HK Light Kinnari.ttf: Kinnari Medium wqy-zenhei.ttc: 文泉驛正黑 Regular [...] We can see that AR PL UMing TW is the first font for serif. It is not that good because we would like to see DejaVu Serif to present Western text more than AP PL UMing. The Western text gylphs come from AR PL UMing are not as good as those gylphs Western fonts provide. However, the result is acceptable. The result of 'fc-match -s sans-serif' returns DejaVuSerif.ttf: DejaVu Serif Book DejaVuSerif-Bold.ttf: DejaVu Serif Bold DejaVuSans.ttf: DejaVu Sans Book DejaVuSans-Bold.ttf: DejaVu Sans Bold DroidSansFallbackFull.ttf: Droid Sans Fallback Regular wqy-zenhei.ttc: 文泉驛正黑 Regular uming.ttc: AR PL UMing TW Light uming.ttc: AR PL UMing HK Light [...] This is completly unacceptable because DejaVu Serif and DejaVu Serif Bold are not sans-serif style font. The result of 'fc-match -s monospace' returns DejaVuSerif.ttf: DejaVu Serif Book DejaVuSerif-Bold.ttf: DejaVu Serif Bold DejaVuSansMono.ttf: DejaVu Sans Mono Book DejaVuSansMono-Bold.ttf: DejaVu Sans Mono Bold DroidSansFallbackFull.ttf: Droid Sans Fallback Regular wqy-zenhei.ttc: 文泉驛等寬正黑 Regular uming.ttc: AR PL UMing TW Light uming.ttc: AR PL UMing HK Light n022003l.pfb: Nimbus Mono L Regular [...] This is completly unacceptable because DejaVu Serif and DejaVu Serif Bold are not monospace style font. After rm 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf, The result of 'fc-match -s serif' returns uming.ttc: AR PL UMing TW Light DejaVuSerif.ttf: DejaVu Serif Book DejaVuSerif-Bold.ttf: DejaVu Serif Bold DejaVuSans.ttf: DejaVu Sans Book DejaVuSans-Bold.ttf: DejaVu Sans Bold uming.ttc: AR PL UMing HK Light Kinnari.ttf: Kinnari Medium wqy-zenhei.ttc: 文泉驛正黑 Regular [...] The reslt is the same with haveing 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf, so it implies that 69-lanaguage-selctor-zh-tw.conf does not paly a big role in this serif case. The result of 'fc-match -s sans-serif' returns DejaVuSans.ttf: DejaVu Sans Book DejaVuSans-Bold.ttf: DejaVu Sans Bold wqy-zenhei.ttc: 文泉驛正黑 Regular n019003l.pfb: Nimbus Sans L Regular Waree.ttf: Waree Book ukai.ttc: AR PL UKai CN Book ukai.ttc: AR PL UKai HK Book uming.ttc: AR PL UMing CN Light [...] DejaVu Sans is sans-serif style font. The result is acceptable. The result of 'fc-match -s monospace' returns DejaVuSansMono.ttf: DejaVu Sans Mono Book DejaVuSansMono-Bold.ttf: DejaVu Sans Mono Bold wqy-zenhei.ttc: 文泉驛等寬正黑 Regular n022003l.pfb: Nimbus Mono L Regular [...] DejaVu Sans Mono is monospace style font. The result is acceptable. It seems that fontconfig will prepend a full font family of DejaVu Serif for 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf. Thus I check this configuration in detail. I find that we prepend AR PL UMing TW as first font for serif. And in last section of this configuraton, we define that DejaVu Serif should bind to AR PL UMing TW. This section is also outdated too. The original idea behind this is to mimic the old ubuntu default font setting, but things have changed. I guess this might be the cause and give a test. If we remove the last section which binds DejaVu Serif with AR PL UMing, The result of 'fc-match -s serif' returns uming.ttc: AR PL UMing TW Light DejaVuSerif.ttf: DejaVu Serif Book DejaVuSerif-Bold.ttf: DejaVu Serif Bold DejaVuSans.ttf: DejaVu Sans Book DejaVuSans-Bold.ttf: DejaVu Sans Bold uming.ttc: AR PL UMing HK Light Kinnari.ttf: Kinnari Medium wqy-zenhei.ttc: 文泉驛正黑 Regular [...] Well, still the same. 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf seems to have no big effect for serif. The result of 'fc-match -s sans-serif' returns DejaVuSans.ttf: DejaVu Sans Book DejaVuSans-Bold.ttf: DejaVu Sans Bold DroidSansFallbackFull.ttf: Droid Sans Fallback Regular wqy-zenhei.ttc: 文泉驛正黑 Regular uming.ttc: AR PL UMing TW Light uming.ttc: AR PL UMing HK Light [...] Good! DejaVu Serif and DejaVu Serif Bold are not prepended here. The result is acceptable. The result of 'fc-match -s monospace' returns DejaVuSansMono.ttf: DejaVu Sans Mono Book DejaVuSansMono-Bold.ttf: DejaVu Sans Mono Bold DroidSansFallbackFull.ttf: Droid Sans Fallback Regular wqy-zenhei.ttc: 文泉驛等寬正黑 Regular uming.ttc: AR PL UMing TW Light uming.ttc: AR PL UMing HK Light n022003l.pfb: Nimbus Mono L Regular [...] Good! DejaVu Serif and DejaVu Serif Bold are not prepended here. The result is acceptable. So, my suggestion to get a better visual reslut for Chinese (Traditional) users is that 0. make font-droid as the dependent package for zh-tw language
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf
** Patch removed: this is the patch to make WenQuanYi Micro Hei back to zh-tw configuration https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/1173571/+attachment/3656094/+files/add-microhei-back.patch -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to language-selector in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh- tw.conf Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: In quantal and previous version of ubuntu, we use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as default Chinese (Traditional) fonts for Sans, Monospace. However, the default font is set to WenQuanYi Zen Hei in 0.110 version provided by Raring. It is a regression that most of Chinese (Traditional) users don't appreciate this change. We would like to use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as before. I changed the conf provided by raring to fit we Chinese (Traditional) users more to have WenQuanYi Micro Hei back. Please accept the patch. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/1173571/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf
Looking forward to the result of that test. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to language-selector in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh- tw.conf Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: In quantal and previous version of ubuntu, we use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as default Chinese (Traditional) fonts for Sans, Monospace. However, the default font is set to WenQuanYi Zen Hei in 0.110 version provided by Raring. It is a regression that most of Chinese (Traditional) users don't appreciate this change. We would like to use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as before. I changed the conf provided by raring to fit we Chinese (Traditional) users more to have WenQuanYi Micro Hei back. Please accept the patch. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/1173571/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf
Thanks for your efforts on this matter, Cheng-Chia Tseng. I have subscribed Ding Zhou to this bug report, since he was consulted by Iain Lane about the Raring changes. On 2013-05-26 11:34, Cheng-Chia Tseng wrote: 1. make Droid Sans Fallback as the first Chinese character providing font listed in all 69-language-selector-zh-xx.conf. (Yeah, I have checked that only part of the confs list Droid Sans Fallback at first) Your primary concern seems to be traditional Chinese, and in -zh-tw.conf Droid Sans Fallback is already listed first. So if I understand it correctly, to deal with traditional Chinese we would just need to move Droid Sans Fallback to the top in -zh-hk.conf and add the line fn:zh-hant::fonts-droid to pkg_depends. Would it possibly make sense to make those changes for traditional Chinese, while keeping WenQuanYi Zen Hei for simplified Chinese? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to language-selector in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh- tw.conf Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: In quantal and previous version of ubuntu, we use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as default Chinese (Traditional) fonts for Sans, Monospace. However, the default font is set to WenQuanYi Zen Hei in 0.110 version provided by Raring. It is a regression that most of Chinese (Traditional) users don't appreciate this change. We would like to use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as before. I changed the conf provided by raring to fit we Chinese (Traditional) users more to have WenQuanYi Micro Hei back. Please accept the patch. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/1173571/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf
I will check that if the -zh-tw.conf provided in raring (which put Droid Sans Fallback into first one) works fine or not if we install Droid Sans Fallback recently. Would it possibly make sense to make those changes for traditional Chinese, while keeping WenQuanYi Zen Hei for simplified Chinese? I think that it is OK to keep WenQuanYi Zen Hei for simplified Chinese as long as no user complains about this change. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to language-selector in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh- tw.conf Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: In quantal and previous version of ubuntu, we use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as default Chinese (Traditional) fonts for Sans, Monospace. However, the default font is set to WenQuanYi Zen Hei in 0.110 version provided by Raring. It is a regression that most of Chinese (Traditional) users don't appreciate this change. We would like to use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as before. I changed the conf provided by raring to fit we Chinese (Traditional) users more to have WenQuanYi Micro Hei back. Please accept the patch. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/1173571/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf
Another way to improve the unreadible Chinese characters is to install Droid Sans Fallback and use it instead of WenQuanYi Zen Hei. The reason to use Droid Sans Fallback instead of WenQaun Yi Micro Hei is that WenQuanYi almostly stopped the development progress for about three years while Droid Sans Fallback does not. Plus, WenQuanYi Micro Hei is at first derived from Droid Sans. Now Droid Sans Fallback covers much more characters than WenQuanYi Micro Hei. Moreover, the quality provided by Droid Sans is out of professional font designers, while WenQuanYi is mostly from online public invovement. So in this way, the improvement prososal is 1. make Droid Sans Fallback as the first Chinese character providing font listed in all 69-language-selector-zh-xx.conf. (Yeah, I have checked that only part of the confs list Droid Sans Fallback at first) 2. make Droid Sans Fallback font a dependent package for language-support of all Chinese locales. (the font is not installed by default in raring in all ubuntu derives) Please give some feedbacks, and I belive we, all Traditional Chinese users will be appreciate that. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to language-selector in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh- tw.conf Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: In quantal and previous version of ubuntu, we use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as default Chinese (Traditional) fonts for Sans, Monospace. However, the default font is set to WenQuanYi Zen Hei in 0.110 version provided by Raring. It is a regression that most of Chinese (Traditional) users don't appreciate this change. We would like to use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as before. I changed the conf provided by raring to fit we Chinese (Traditional) users more to have WenQuanYi Micro Hei back. Please accept the patch. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/1173571/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf
** Summary changed: - please add wenquanyi micro hei settings back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf + please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to language-selector in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh- tw.conf Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: In quantal and previous version of ubuntu, we use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as default Chinese (Traditional) fonts for Sans, Monospace. However, the default font is set to WenQuanYi Zen Hei in 0.110 version provided by Raring. It is a regression that most of Chinese (Traditional) users don't appreciate this change. We would like to use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as before. I changed the conf provided by raring to fit we Chinese (Traditional) users more to have WenQuanYi Micro Hei back. Please accept the patch. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/1173571/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf
I think that my title is not well described and does not fit my idea well, so I change that. Maybe that mislead readers to think that I was asking to add those outdated settings about Micro Hei back in language-selector confs, but that's not. To be clear, I just want to make Micro Hei back as the default Chinese character displaying font for sans-serif and monospace as it was. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to language-selector in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh- tw.conf Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: In quantal and previous version of ubuntu, we use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as default Chinese (Traditional) fonts for Sans, Monospace. However, the default font is set to WenQuanYi Zen Hei in 0.110 version provided by Raring. It is a regression that most of Chinese (Traditional) users don't appreciate this change. We would like to use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as before. I changed the conf provided by raring to fit we Chinese (Traditional) users more to have WenQuanYi Micro Hei back. Please accept the patch. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/1173571/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
