[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1591935] Re: audio record works for call audio
On the trust-store aspect of this: pulseaudio should use the "feature" field when asking trust-store to verify requests, and use different enumeration values to distinguish ordinary microphone recording from voicecall recording. The respective functionality is available from trust-store today. Taking the bigger picture into account, I would vote in favor of keeping the voicecall recording feature enabled under the assumption that the different recording types are clearly surfaced to the user. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to pulseaudio in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1591935 Title: audio record works for call audio Status in Canonical System Image: Confirmed Status in pulseaudio package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in trust-store package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: krillin:ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/bq-aquaris.en,#350 Install the app 'Recorder' from the Ubuntu Store. Confirm it works by opening and making a recording. Note that the app requests permission to access the microphone, and you grant this with the usual trust store prompt. Now move to the phone app, and place a regular phone call. With the call active, open Recorder again, and start recording. Stop recording after some time, and hang up the call. return to the recorder app, and play the recording made during the phone call. Audio from both the local microphone and the remote handset (Which the user heard during the call) will be present on the track. It was expected that no audio from the call could be captured by applications. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1591935/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1591935] Re: audio record works for call audio
At the moment, I think this bug has three subtasks: - trust-store should have a clear notion of 'call recording' as a separate permission required of apps. - Pulse Audio should use this permission for the voicecall-record plugin. If we agree, then there is a third task - Review our existing devices and confirm that voicecall-record is the only way the routing can set this behaviour up. Alternatively, I think Trust Store can take the view that it does not want to support call-recording, and in that case we should arrange all devices to disable this feature. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to pulseaudio in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1591935 Title: audio record works for call audio Status in Canonical System Image: Confirmed Status in pulseaudio package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in trust-store package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: krillin:ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/bq-aquaris.en,#350 Install the app 'Recorder' from the Ubuntu Store. Confirm it works by opening and making a recording. Note that the app requests permission to access the microphone, and you grant this with the usual trust store prompt. Now move to the phone app, and place a regular phone call. With the call active, open Recorder again, and start recording. Stop recording after some time, and hang up the call. return to the recorder app, and play the recording made during the phone call. Audio from both the local microphone and the remote handset (Which the user heard during the call) will be present on the track. It was expected that no audio from the call could be captured by applications. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1591935/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1591935] Re: audio record works for call audio
So, as the o/p I would add: jdstrand's note in #5 that we should only do this on a customer requirement is fine by me. We have a clear anti- requirement in some regulatory regions. Specifically that we should either treat call recording as a special trust domain, and prompt/warn the user about the behaviour, or simply disable the functionality. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to pulseaudio in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1591935 Title: audio record works for call audio Status in Canonical System Image: Confirmed Status in pulseaudio package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in trust-store package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: krillin:ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/bq-aquaris.en,#350 Install the app 'Recorder' from the Ubuntu Store. Confirm it works by opening and making a recording. Note that the app requests permission to access the microphone, and you grant this with the usual trust store prompt. Now move to the phone app, and place a regular phone call. With the call active, open Recorder again, and start recording. Stop recording after some time, and hang up the call. return to the recorder app, and play the recording made during the phone call. Audio from both the local microphone and the remote handset (Which the user heard during the call) will be present on the track. It was expected that no audio from the call could be captured by applications. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1591935/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1591935] Re: audio record works for call audio
On 28 June 2016 at 16:02, Jamie Strandbogewrote: > "On Thu, 2016-06-09 at 09:05 -0400, Pat McGowan wrote: > Seems Rex understood the plumbing, maybe there is a pulse setting to > disable it. > I would very much prefer this since this is a very sensitive area and IMHO, we should only enable voicecall recording if there is a clear customer requirement, and even then only with proper design. The oem bug #1569213 references the voicecall-record[1] profile as being newly enabled. Can we simply not disable that profile? Or is Ondrej saying that because of how we do routing, you might be able to still record without the voicecall-record profile (I'm guessing this means it would show up in pulse as a different, recordable profile?)? If that's the case, let's fix the routing. :) In other words: * the microphone is currently mediated by pulseaudio and trust-store * call recording recently was added somewhere and doesn't seem to be mediated by trust-store on all platforms (someone should confirm) * if pulseaudio and trust-store properly mediated call recording then this is probably technically enough to satisfy mediation requirements * (this bug) indicates it is surprising that call audio is lumped in with microphone recording. I agree this is surprising and strongly feel we should disable call audio recording until there is a clear customer requirement. call audio recording was never a consideration by our implementation because it didn't exist at the time-- if it is something we want, it should be properly designed (likely a 2nd trust-store prompt) [1]https://github.com/mer-hybris/pulseaudio-modules-droid/blob/master/README#L114 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to pulseaudio in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1591935 Title: audio record works for call audio Status in Canonical System Image: Confirmed Status in pulseaudio package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in trust-store package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: krillin:ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/bq-aquaris.en,#350 Install the app 'Recorder' from the Ubuntu Store. Confirm it works by opening and making a recording. Note that the app requests permission to access the microphone, and you grant this with the usual trust store prompt. Now move to the phone app, and place a regular phone call. With the call active, open Recorder again, and start recording. Stop recording after some time, and hang up the call. return to the recorder app, and play the recording made during the phone call. Audio from both the local microphone and the remote handset (Which the user heard during the call) will be present on the track. It was expected that no audio from the call could be captured by applications. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1591935/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1591935] Re: audio record works for call audio
@tvoss could you comment on the trust-store aspects in #5 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to pulseaudio in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1591935 Title: audio record works for call audio Status in Canonical System Image: Confirmed Status in pulseaudio package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in trust-store package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: krillin:ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/bq-aquaris.en,#350 Install the app 'Recorder' from the Ubuntu Store. Confirm it works by opening and making a recording. Note that the app requests permission to access the microphone, and you grant this with the usual trust store prompt. Now move to the phone app, and place a regular phone call. With the call active, open Recorder again, and start recording. Stop recording after some time, and hang up the call. return to the recorder app, and play the recording made during the phone call. Audio from both the local microphone and the remote handset (Which the user heard during the call) will be present on the track. It was expected that no audio from the call could be captured by applications. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1591935/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1591935] Re: audio record works for call audio
Bringing the conversation from email: On 27 June 2016 at 23:18, Tyler Hickswrote: I've pulled in Jamie Strandboge, who may have some insights about how the audio recording policy should work. I'm not aware of the intended functionality in the situation described in the bug. I don't personally see capturing the audio output in the recording as a security vulnerability as the user is still in control of audio recording. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to pulseaudio in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1591935 Title: audio record works for call audio Status in Canonical System Image: Confirmed Status in pulseaudio package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in trust-store package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: krillin:ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/bq-aquaris.en,#350 Install the app 'Recorder' from the Ubuntu Store. Confirm it works by opening and making a recording. Note that the app requests permission to access the microphone, and you grant this with the usual trust store prompt. Now move to the phone app, and place a regular phone call. With the call active, open Recorder again, and start recording. Stop recording after some time, and hang up the call. return to the recorder app, and play the recording made during the phone call. Audio from both the local microphone and the remote handset (Which the user heard during the call) will be present on the track. It was expected that no audio from the call could be captured by applications. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1591935/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1591935] Re: audio record works for call audio
** Changed in: canonical-devices-system-image Milestone: 12 => 12.1 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to pulseaudio in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1591935 Title: audio record works for call audio Status in Canonical System Image: Confirmed Status in pulseaudio package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in trust-store package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: krillin:ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/bq-aquaris.en,#350 Install the app 'Recorder' from the Ubuntu Store. Confirm it works by opening and making a recording. Note that the app requests permission to access the microphone, and you grant this with the usual trust store prompt. Now move to the phone app, and place a regular phone call. With the call active, open Recorder again, and start recording. Stop recording after some time, and hang up the call. return to the recorder app, and play the recording made during the phone call. Audio from both the local microphone and the remote handset (Which the user heard during the call) will be present on the track. It was expected that no audio from the call could be captured by applications. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1591935/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1591935] Re: audio record works for call audio
** Changed in: canonical-devices-system-image Status: New => Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to pulseaudio in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1591935 Title: audio record works for call audio Status in Canonical System Image: Confirmed Status in pulseaudio package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in trust-store package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: krillin:ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/bq-aquaris.en,#350 Install the app 'Recorder' from the Ubuntu Store. Confirm it works by opening and making a recording. Note that the app requests permission to access the microphone, and you grant this with the usual trust store prompt. Now move to the phone app, and place a regular phone call. With the call active, open Recorder again, and start recording. Stop recording after some time, and hang up the call. return to the recorder app, and play the recording made during the phone call. Audio from both the local microphone and the remote handset (Which the user heard during the call) will be present on the track. It was expected that no audio from the call could be captured by applications. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1591935/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1591935] Re: audio record works for call audio
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users. ** Changed in: trust-store (Ubuntu) Status: New => Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to pulseaudio in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1591935 Title: audio record works for call audio Status in Canonical System Image: New Status in pulseaudio package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in trust-store package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: krillin:ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/bq-aquaris.en,#350 Install the app 'Recorder' from the Ubuntu Store. Confirm it works by opening and making a recording. Note that the app requests permission to access the microphone, and you grant this with the usual trust store prompt. Now move to the phone app, and place a regular phone call. With the call active, open Recorder again, and start recording. Stop recording after some time, and hang up the call. return to the recorder app, and play the recording made during the phone call. Audio from both the local microphone and the remote handset (Which the user heard during the call) will be present on the track. It was expected that no audio from the call could be captured by applications. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1591935/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1591935] Re: audio record works for call audio
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users. ** Changed in: pulseaudio (Ubuntu) Status: New => Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to pulseaudio in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1591935 Title: audio record works for call audio Status in Canonical System Image: New Status in pulseaudio package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in trust-store package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: krillin:ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/bq-aquaris.en,#350 Install the app 'Recorder' from the Ubuntu Store. Confirm it works by opening and making a recording. Note that the app requests permission to access the microphone, and you grant this with the usual trust store prompt. Now move to the phone app, and place a regular phone call. With the call active, open Recorder again, and start recording. Stop recording after some time, and hang up the call. return to the recorder app, and play the recording made during the phone call. Audio from both the local microphone and the remote handset (Which the user heard during the call) will be present on the track. It was expected that no audio from the call could be captured by applications. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1591935/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1591935] Re: audio record works for call audio
** Changed in: canonical-devices-system-image Assignee: (unassigned) => John McAleely (john.mcaleely) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to pulseaudio in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1591935 Title: audio record works for call audio Status in Canonical System Image: New Status in pulseaudio package in Ubuntu: New Status in trust-store package in Ubuntu: New Bug description: krillin:ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/bq-aquaris.en,#350 Install the app 'Recorder' from the Ubuntu Store. Confirm it works by opening and making a recording. Note that the app requests permission to access the microphone, and you grant this with the usual trust store prompt. Now move to the phone app, and place a regular phone call. With the call active, open Recorder again, and start recording. Stop recording after some time, and hang up the call. return to the recorder app, and play the recording made during the phone call. Audio from both the local microphone and the remote handset (Which the user heard during the call) will be present on the track. It was expected that no audio from the call could be captured by applications. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1591935/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1591935] Re: audio record works for call audio
** Also affects: trust-store (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Also affects: pulseaudio (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to pulseaudio in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1591935 Title: audio record works for call audio Status in Canonical System Image: New Status in pulseaudio package in Ubuntu: New Status in trust-store package in Ubuntu: New Bug description: krillin:ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/bq-aquaris.en,#350 Install the app 'Recorder' from the Ubuntu Store. Confirm it works by opening and making a recording. Note that the app requests permission to access the microphone, and you grant this with the usual trust store prompt. Now move to the phone app, and place a regular phone call. With the call active, open Recorder again, and start recording. Stop recording after some time, and hang up the call. return to the recorder app, and play the recording made during the phone call. Audio from both the local microphone and the remote handset (Which the user heard during the call) will be present on the track. It was expected that no audio from the call could be captured by applications. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1591935/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp