[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1615575] Re: Emoji support
Thanks for the quick response, Brad. I agree, launchpad works quite well for us. There's not really much pressure to move away, currently. Also, I feel, as long as Onboard is installed by default in Ubuntu, we should stay close. The situation may change with unity 8, we'll see. > I've always expected support for CBLC/CBDT color format fonts > in Linux before SVGinOT. Seems you were right, there's support for (what I believe is) Google's CBLC/CBDT in freetype. I got this example here https://gist.github.com/jokertarot/7583938 to render colored emoji from your emojione-android.ttf. That could be a possible path forward. Don't know if this is accessible from anywhere higher in the stack. For SVGinOT there's just this bug report: https://savannah.nongnu.org/bugs/?46141 I'd still prefer SVG over png for Onboard, though, because most of the UI is freely scalable. All the other images we use as key labels are SVG too. > An option for now is to add emoji support using the existing > font rendering system. That's what we currently do, yes. If there's no reasonable way to get color, we'll just wait for better times. > Both of my fonts provide regular fallback non-color glyphs. I've seen that the fonts-emojione Ubuntu package has gray-scale glyphs. Is that a special version of your font or a fallback? They render fine in Onboard, btw. ** Bug watch added: Non-GNU Savannah Bug Tracker #46141 http://savannah.nongnu.org/bugs/?46141 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to onboard in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1615575 Title: Emoji support Status in Onboard: Confirmed Status in onboard package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: Any plans for emoji support? These days it's commonly used in communication. If onboard had emoji support it would be a very useful tool. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/onboard/+bug/1615575/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1615575] Re: Emoji support
In defense of Launchpad, haha: It may not be as pretty, but is tightly integrated with Ubuntu, open source, and run by Canonical. I've always expected support for CBLC/CBDT color format fonts in Linux before SVGinOT. It's quicker to implement since it just uses bitmaps, no SVG renderer needed. SVGinOT is the long term choice due to file size, for example a CBLC/CBDT of EmojiOne will be 20MB+. An option for now is to add emoji support using the existing font rendering system. Both of my fonts provide regular fallback non-color glyphs. They are machine generated, but acceptable IMO. Feature requests could to be filed for support of SVGinOT and CBLC/CBDT in the stack below Onboard. Greatly extends the timeline, but avoids a custom font render system. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to onboard in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1615575 Title: Emoji support Status in Onboard: Confirmed Status in onboard package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: Any plans for emoji support? These days it's commonly used in communication. If onboard had emoji support it would be a very useful tool. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/onboard/+bug/1615575/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1615575] Re: Emoji support
Because most open source projects these days use GitHub. A lot of users have a GitHub account, so it's easy for them to report issues on a GitHub issue tracker for various projects with a single account. GitHub also is better designed and more familiar than Launchpad IMHO. What's also nice is the mentioning feature ( https://github.com/blog/821 -mention-somebody-they-re-notified ). And pull requests also seem to be easier on GitHub? Oh and..., for the killer feature: GitHub supports Emojis: https://github.com/blog/2119-add-reactions-to-pull-requests-issues-and- comments ;D -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to onboard in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1615575 Title: Emoji support Status in Onboard: Confirmed Status in onboard package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: Any plans for emoji support? These days it's commonly used in communication. If onboard had emoji support it would be a very useful tool. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/onboard/+bug/1615575/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1615575] Re: Emoji support
s/do ask/do you ask/, you know what I mean. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to onboard in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1615575 Title: Emoji support Status in Onboard: Confirmed Status in onboard package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: Any plans for emoji support? These days it's commonly used in communication. If onboard had emoji support it would be a very useful tool. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/onboard/+bug/1615575/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1615575] Re: Emoji support
Thanks, N.W. > Are there any plans to move Onboard to GitHub? Not currently. Why do ask? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to onboard in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1615575 Title: Emoji support Status in Onboard: Confirmed Status in onboard package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: Any plans for emoji support? These days it's commonly used in communication. If onboard had emoji support it would be a very useful tool. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/onboard/+bug/1615575/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1615575] Re: Emoji support
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users. ** Changed in: onboard (Ubuntu) Status: New => Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to onboard in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1615575 Title: Emoji support Status in Onboard: Confirmed Status in onboard package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: Any plans for emoji support? These days it's commonly used in communication. If onboard had emoji support it would be a very useful tool. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/onboard/+bug/1615575/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1615575] Re: Emoji support
@ marmuta: I have asked @eosrei, maybe he has some advice, see: https://github.com/eosrei/emojione-color-font/issues/58 ;) By the way: Are there any plans to move Onboard to GitHub? Regards ** Bug watch added: github.com/eosrei/emojione-color-font/issues #58 https://github.com/eosrei/emojione-color-font/issues/58 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to onboard in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1615575 Title: Emoji support Status in Onboard: Confirmed Status in onboard package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: Any plans for emoji support? These days it's commonly used in communication. If onboard had emoji support it would be a very useful tool. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/onboard/+bug/1615575/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1615575] Re: Emoji support
Yes, we discussed that recently. Showing colored emoji would be nice, but there seems to be precious little support for SVG in OpenType on Linux. AFAICT only Mozilla applications can handle emojione or twemoji at the moment. Even emojione-picker uses svg files instead. If there is high-level support for Gtk applications anywhere, I haven't found it yet. There are options, adding plain svg files (850!) to the Onboard project, or parsing EmojiOneColor-SVGinOT.ttf ourselves (?). I'm not really looking forward to either, though. Are there any others? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to onboard in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1615575 Title: Emoji support Status in Onboard: Confirmed Status in onboard package in Ubuntu: New Bug description: Any plans for emoji support? These days it's commonly used in communication. If onboard had emoji support it would be a very useful tool. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/onboard/+bug/1615575/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1615575] Re: Emoji support
> marmuta wrote: > There are some emoji in the Small and Phone layouts. These are black and white Emojis though. How about using color Emojis like the open source Emoji One set for example: http://emojione.com/ https://github.com/Ranks/emojione ? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to onboard in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1615575 Title: Emoji support Status in Onboard: Confirmed Status in onboard package in Ubuntu: New Bug description: Any plans for emoji support? These days it's commonly used in communication. If onboard had emoji support it would be a very useful tool. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/onboard/+bug/1615575/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1615575] Re: Emoji support
There are some emoji in the Small and Phone layouts. Small: press "12?", then "☺" on the SHIFT key. Phone: press "12!@" then "1/3" twice It's a limited selection in both cases, though. The other layouts don't have any, although there's an older branch were they do: https://code.launchpad.net/~onboard/onboard/layouts-experiments IIRC, the problems back then were a) all those new keys dragging down performance, and b) disagreements on if/how to place the emoji button on the main layer. I believe we would be better off with a scrolling popup list. That way we could offer all the emoji+descriptions without having to add a myriad of keys to each layout. I'll discuss this with Francesco when he's back. He's worked on the emoji support before. ** Also affects: onboard Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Changed in: onboard Status: New => Confirmed ** Changed in: onboard Importance: Undecided => Wishlist -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to onboard in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1615575 Title: Emoji support Status in Onboard: Confirmed Status in onboard package in Ubuntu: New Bug description: Any plans for emoji support? These days it's commonly used in communication. If onboard had emoji support it would be a very useful tool. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/onboard/+bug/1615575/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
