[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1722688] Re: GNOME desktop isn't a desktop.

2017-10-30 Thread Daniel van Vugt
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 1710931 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1710931

Wayland is the architecture we want to use going into the future.

Wayland is also still relatively new compared to X11 (which is almost 30
years older). So there's a lot of catching up to do in the various
software ecosystems.

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Title:
  GNOME desktop isn't a desktop.

Status in gnome-shell package in Ubuntu:
  In Progress

Bug description:
  In the major DE, windows & mac, the desktop is a desktop. It has files
  on it. If you click on the desktop, focus goes to it, and ctrl+n will
  open a new file browsing window (Mac Finder or Windows Explorer) and
  ctrl+shift+n will create a new folder. If you right-click on the
  desktop, you should be able to create a new folder, properties,
  restore missing files, open in Terminal, etc. It's supposed to be part
  of the desktop environment. However, in GNOME, the desktop doesn't
  feel like a desktop. It's theoretically the directory
  /home/USERNAME/Desktop, but in GNOME I can't start manipulating Files
  (Nautilus) by focusing on the desktop with a click nor an alt-tab.

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1722688] Re: GNOME desktop isn't a desktop.

2017-10-30 Thread tom
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 1710931 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1710931

I figured it was a GNOME design choice.

That is interesting. In general, Wayland seems to be a great source of
pain and breakage. Does it have any large advantages? So far, I've only
experienced more pain in Wayland than joy, but maybe there are some
large advantages that are invisible to regular users like me.

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Title:
  GNOME desktop isn't a desktop.

Status in gnome-shell package in Ubuntu:
  In Progress

Bug description:
  In the major DE, windows & mac, the desktop is a desktop. It has files
  on it. If you click on the desktop, focus goes to it, and ctrl+n will
  open a new file browsing window (Mac Finder or Windows Explorer) and
  ctrl+shift+n will create a new folder. If you right-click on the
  desktop, you should be able to create a new folder, properties,
  restore missing files, open in Terminal, etc. It's supposed to be part
  of the desktop environment. However, in GNOME, the desktop doesn't
  feel like a desktop. It's theoretically the directory
  /home/USERNAME/Desktop, but in GNOME I can't start manipulating Files
  (Nautilus) by focusing on the desktop with a click nor an alt-tab.

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1722688] Re: GNOME desktop isn't a desktop.

2017-10-30 Thread Daniel van Vugt
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 1710931 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1710931

It's one of those Gnome design choices about cleanliness and minimalism.
It appears Ubuntu in general disagrees with that choice so 17.10 enables
the desktop icons.

Interestingly nautilus-desktop is an X app (running through Xwayland).
It's the only part of the desktop that's not native Wayland. So if it
sticks around someone will need to make nautilus-desktop able to run
under Wayland natively.

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Title:
  GNOME desktop isn't a desktop.

Status in gnome-shell package in Ubuntu:
  In Progress

Bug description:
  In the major DE, windows & mac, the desktop is a desktop. It has files
  on it. If you click on the desktop, focus goes to it, and ctrl+n will
  open a new file browsing window (Mac Finder or Windows Explorer) and
  ctrl+shift+n will create a new folder. If you right-click on the
  desktop, you should be able to create a new folder, properties,
  restore missing files, open in Terminal, etc. It's supposed to be part
  of the desktop environment. However, in GNOME, the desktop doesn't
  feel like a desktop. It's theoretically the directory
  /home/USERNAME/Desktop, but in GNOME I can't start manipulating Files
  (Nautilus) by focusing on the desktop with a click nor an alt-tab.

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1722688] Re: GNOME desktop isn't a desktop.

2017-10-30 Thread tom
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 1710931 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1710931

That was it Daniel. Thank you. Quite bizarre to disable desktop by
default. Any idea why GNOME chooses to disable normal desktop behavior
by default?

** Changed in: gnome-shell (Ubuntu)
   Status: Incomplete => In Progress

** This bug has been marked a duplicate of bug 1710931
   Ctrl+N shortcut does not work when desktop has focus

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Title:
  GNOME desktop isn't a desktop.

Status in gnome-shell package in Ubuntu:
  In Progress

Bug description:
  In the major DE, windows & mac, the desktop is a desktop. It has files
  on it. If you click on the desktop, focus goes to it, and ctrl+n will
  open a new file browsing window (Mac Finder or Windows Explorer) and
  ctrl+shift+n will create a new folder. If you right-click on the
  desktop, you should be able to create a new folder, properties,
  restore missing files, open in Terminal, etc. It's supposed to be part
  of the desktop environment. However, in GNOME, the desktop doesn't
  feel like a desktop. It's theoretically the directory
  /home/USERNAME/Desktop, but in GNOME I can't start manipulating Files
  (Nautilus) by focusing on the desktop with a click nor an alt-tab.

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1722688] Re: GNOME desktop isn't a desktop.

2017-10-30 Thread Sebastien Bacher
** Changed in: gnome-shell (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided => Low

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Title:
  GNOME desktop isn't a desktop.

Status in gnome-shell package in Ubuntu:
  Incomplete

Bug description:
  In the major DE, windows & mac, the desktop is a desktop. It has files
  on it. If you click on the desktop, focus goes to it, and ctrl+n will
  open a new file browsing window (Mac Finder or Windows Explorer) and
  ctrl+shift+n will create a new folder. If you right-click on the
  desktop, you should be able to create a new folder, properties,
  restore missing files, open in Terminal, etc. It's supposed to be part
  of the desktop environment. However, in GNOME, the desktop doesn't
  feel like a desktop. It's theoretically the directory
  /home/USERNAME/Desktop, but in GNOME I can't start manipulating Files
  (Nautilus) by focusing on the desktop with a click nor an alt-tab.

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1722688] Re: GNOME desktop isn't a desktop.

2017-10-30 Thread Daniel van Vugt
Files and folders on the desktop ('nautilus-desktop') is enabled by
default in Ubuntu 17.10.

Your system might have got it disabled for some reason, or you might be
using the default Gnome theme where it's probably still disabled by
default. Either way, the setting you want is:

Gnome Tweak Tool > Desktop > Icons on Desktop > Show Icons = ON

As for Ctrl+N, that's a separate bug
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=786908. Although Ctrl+Shift+N
works already.

Please enable the above setting and let us know if the problem is
resolved, or if there might be some other problem preventing 'nautilus-
desktop' from running on your system.

** Bug watch added: GNOME Bug Tracker #786908
   https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=786908

** Package changed: nvidia-prime (Ubuntu) => gnome-shell (Ubuntu)

** Changed in: gnome-shell (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => Incomplete

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Title:
  GNOME desktop isn't a desktop.

Status in gnome-shell package in Ubuntu:
  Incomplete

Bug description:
  In the major DE, windows & mac, the desktop is a desktop. It has files
  on it. If you click on the desktop, focus goes to it, and ctrl+n will
  open a new file browsing window (Mac Finder or Windows Explorer) and
  ctrl+shift+n will create a new folder. If you right-click on the
  desktop, you should be able to create a new folder, properties,
  restore missing files, open in Terminal, etc. It's supposed to be part
  of the desktop environment. However, in GNOME, the desktop doesn't
  feel like a desktop. It's theoretically the directory
  /home/USERNAME/Desktop, but in GNOME I can't start manipulating Files
  (Nautilus) by focusing on the desktop with a click nor an alt-tab.

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