[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1827717] Re: Normandy remote control should be disabled by default

2019-05-06 Thread Olivier Tilloy
If you feel uncomfortable with that functionality, you should turn it
off (that's a totally respectable concern). Or use a different browser
that doesn't have this sort of mechanism. For the vast majority of
Ubuntu users though, it makes sense for the feature to be enabled by
default.

Security is often a matter of trust, so it all boils down to whether we
trust Mozilla to use the feature in a sensible way.

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Title:
  Normandy remote control should be disabled by default

Status in firefox package in Ubuntu:
  Opinion

Bug description:
  While sure useful as a way to remedy the add-on intermediate signing
  certificate expiry issue Mozilla has created
  (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1548973), I really think
  Normandy should be disabled in Ubuntu by default:

Normandy is a collection of servers, workflows, and Firefox components that 
enables Mozilla to remote control Firefox clients in the wild based on precise 
criteria.
https://mozilla.github.io/normandy/ 

  Reasoning: Software installed via APT should have defined states,
  software should not be allowed to change itself, unless the user has
  actively chosen to enable such functionality and this functionality
  points out, for the user, that it has this capability.

  The current default preference (per about:config) is:
  app.normandy.enabled;true

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1827717] Re: Normandy remote control should be disabled by default

2019-05-06 Thread Tom Reynolds
Normandy can remotely change the functionality and behavior and
preferences of Firefox installations, though. It can silently install
extensions which may not be listed at about:addons. I agree that is not
remote root access (not immediately, anyway), but the fact that such a
powerful remotely controllable feature is enabled by default, without
the user asked for explicit opt-in, is still very troubling from my
perspective. And so is your response, I might add.

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Title:
  Normandy remote control should be disabled by default

Status in firefox package in Ubuntu:
  Opinion

Bug description:
  While sure useful as a way to remedy the add-on intermediate signing
  certificate expiry issue Mozilla has created
  (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1548973), I really think
  Normandy should be disabled in Ubuntu by default:

Normandy is a collection of servers, workflows, and Firefox components that 
enables Mozilla to remote control Firefox clients in the wild based on precise 
criteria.
https://mozilla.github.io/normandy/ 

  Reasoning: Software installed via APT should have defined states,
  software should not be allowed to change itself, unless the user has
  actively chosen to enable such functionality and this functionality
  points out, for the user, that it has this capability.

  The current default preference (per about:config) is:
  app.normandy.enabled;true

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1827717] Re: Normandy remote control should be disabled by default

2019-05-06 Thread Olivier Tilloy
> Reasoning: Software installed via APT should have defined states, software
> should not be allowed to change itself, unless the user has actively chosen
> to enable such functionality and this functionality points out, for the
> user, that it has this capability.

Normandy won't alter the packages installed by apt (that would mean that
it runs as root, which would definitely be a security problem). The
mechanism allows Mozilla to roll out preference changes, which will
alter only the user's profile.

As you pointed out, this allowed to mitigate quite effectively bug
#1827727, which rather advocates for keeping it enabled by default.

** Changed in: firefox (Ubuntu)
   Status: Confirmed => Opinion

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Title:
  Normandy remote control should be disabled by default

Status in firefox package in Ubuntu:
  Opinion

Bug description:
  While sure useful as a way to remedy the add-on intermediate signing
  certificate expiry issue Mozilla has created
  (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1548973), I really think
  Normandy should be disabled in Ubuntu by default:

Normandy is a collection of servers, workflows, and Firefox components that 
enables Mozilla to remote control Firefox clients in the wild based on precise 
criteria.
https://mozilla.github.io/normandy/ 

  Reasoning: Software installed via APT should have defined states,
  software should not be allowed to change itself, unless the user has
  actively chosen to enable such functionality and this functionality
  points out, for the user, that it has this capability.

  The current default preference (per about:config) is:
  app.normandy.enabled;true

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1827717] Re: Normandy remote control should be disabled by default

2019-05-05 Thread lotuspsychje
Confirmed it was enabled by default for me on 18.04 aswell

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Title:
  Normandy remote control should be disabled by default

Status in firefox package in Ubuntu:
  Confirmed

Bug description:
  While sure useful as a way to remedy the add-on intermediate signing
  certificate expiry issue Mozilla has created
  (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1548973), I really think
  Normandy should be disabled in Ubuntu by default:

Normandy is a collection of servers, workflows, and Firefox components that 
enables Mozilla to remote control Firefox clients in the wild based on precise 
criteria.
https://mozilla.github.io/normandy/ 

  Reasoning: Software installed via APT should have defined states,
  software should not be allowed to change itself, unless the user has
  actively chosen to enable such functionality and this functionality
  points out, for the user, that it has this capability.

  The current default preference (per about:config) is:
  app.normandy.enabled;true

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1827717] Re: Normandy remote control should be disabled by default

2019-05-04 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users.

** Changed in: firefox (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => Confirmed

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Title:
  Normandy remote control should be disabled by default

Status in firefox package in Ubuntu:
  Confirmed

Bug description:
  While sure useful as a way to remedy the add-on intermediate signing
  certificate expiry issue Mozilla has created
  (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1548973), I really think
  Normandy should be disabled in Ubuntu by default:

Normandy is a collection of servers, workflows, and Firefox components that 
enables Mozilla to remote control Firefox clients in the wild based on precise 
criteria.
https://mozilla.github.io/normandy/ 

  Reasoning: Software installed via APT should have defined states,
  software should not be allowed to change itself, unless the user has
  actively chosen to enable such functionality and this functionality
  points out, for the user, that it has this capability.

  The current default preference (per about:config) is:
  app.normandy.enabled;true

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