[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1937127] Re: Gnome-shell animations smoother when external monitor is connected
Triple buffering was released in Ubuntu 22.04 as a patch to mutter 42. ** Package changed: gnome-shell (Ubuntu) => mutter (Ubuntu) ** Changed in: mutter (Ubuntu) Status: Won't Fix => Fix Released -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to gnome-shell in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1937127 Title: Gnome-shell animations smoother when external monitor is connected Status in mutter package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: When no external monitor is connected Gnome Shell activities animation is sluggish. Once an external monitor is connected the animation becomes noticeably smoother. It looks like the OS is not properly responding to the extra processing demands by raising the CPU/GPU performance, and having an external monitor connected somehow triggers a higher performance level. This is on a System76 Darter Pro machine with Intel® Core™ i7-8565U and Intel UHD 620 running Ubuntu 21.04 in Wayland session. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 21.04 Package: gnome-shell 3.38.4-1ubuntu3~21.04.1 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 5.11.0-7620.21~1624379747~21.04~3abeff8~dev-generic 5.11.21 Uname: Linux 5.11.0-7620-generic x86_64 ApportVersion: 2.20.11-0ubuntu65.1 Architecture: amd64 CasperMD5CheckResult: pass CurrentDesktop: ubuntu:GNOME Date: Wed Jul 21 12:51:55 2021 DisplayManager: gdm3 InstallationDate: Installed on 2021-07-14 (7 days ago) InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 21.04 "Hirsute Hippo" - Release amd64 (20210420) RelatedPackageVersions: mutter-common 3.38.4-1ubuntu2 SourcePackage: gnome-shell UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mutter/+bug/1937127/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1937127] Re: Gnome-shell animations smoother when external monitor is connected
Thank you for reporting this bug to Ubuntu. Ubuntu 21.04 (hirsute) reached end-of-life on January 20, 2022. See this document for currently supported Ubuntu releases: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases We appreciate that this bug may be old and you might not be interested in discussing it any more. But if you are then please upgrade to the latest Ubuntu version and re-test. If you then find the bug is still present in the newer Ubuntu version, please add a comment here telling us which new version it is in. ** Changed in: gnome-shell (Ubuntu) Status: In Progress => Won't Fix -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to gnome-shell in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1937127 Title: Gnome-shell animations smoother when external monitor is connected Status in gnome-shell package in Ubuntu: Won't Fix Bug description: When no external monitor is connected Gnome Shell activities animation is sluggish. Once an external monitor is connected the animation becomes noticeably smoother. It looks like the OS is not properly responding to the extra processing demands by raising the CPU/GPU performance, and having an external monitor connected somehow triggers a higher performance level. This is on a System76 Darter Pro machine with Intel® Core™ i7-8565U and Intel UHD 620 running Ubuntu 21.04 in Wayland session. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 21.04 Package: gnome-shell 3.38.4-1ubuntu3~21.04.1 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 5.11.0-7620.21~1624379747~21.04~3abeff8~dev-generic 5.11.21 Uname: Linux 5.11.0-7620-generic x86_64 ApportVersion: 2.20.11-0ubuntu65.1 Architecture: amd64 CasperMD5CheckResult: pass CurrentDesktop: ubuntu:GNOME Date: Wed Jul 21 12:51:55 2021 DisplayManager: gdm3 InstallationDate: Installed on 2021-07-14 (7 days ago) InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 21.04 "Hirsute Hippo" - Release amd64 (20210420) RelatedPackageVersions: mutter-common 3.38.4-1ubuntu2 SourcePackage: gnome-shell UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1937127/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1937127] Re: Gnome-shell animations smoother when external monitor is connected
Using 'Ubuntu on Xorg' instead of 'Ubuntu' also helps. Because the former having more layers and less internal blocking actually dabbles in triple buffering sometimes by accident. Although I'm not sure if that's the reason it's smoother or just Xorg adds extra GPU load. Since the default 'Ubuntu' session in 20.04 was Xorg and in 21.04 onward it is Wayland, that would explain a perceived performance drop that some users may notice. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to gnome-shell in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1937127 Title: Gnome-shell animations smoother when external monitor is connected Status in gnome-shell package in Ubuntu: In Progress Bug description: When no external monitor is connected Gnome Shell activities animation is sluggish. Once an external monitor is connected the animation becomes noticeably smoother. It looks like the OS is not properly responding to the extra processing demands by raising the CPU/GPU performance, and having an external monitor connected somehow triggers a higher performance level. This is on a System76 Darter Pro machine with Intel® Core™ i7-8565U and Intel UHD 620 running Ubuntu 21.04 in Wayland session. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 21.04 Package: gnome-shell 3.38.4-1ubuntu3~21.04.1 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 5.11.0-7620.21~1624379747~21.04~3abeff8~dev-generic 5.11.21 Uname: Linux 5.11.0-7620-generic x86_64 ApportVersion: 2.20.11-0ubuntu65.1 Architecture: amd64 CasperMD5CheckResult: pass CurrentDesktop: ubuntu:GNOME Date: Wed Jul 21 12:51:55 2021 DisplayManager: gdm3 InstallationDate: Installed on 2021-07-14 (7 days ago) InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 21.04 "Hirsute Hippo" - Release amd64 (20210420) RelatedPackageVersions: mutter-common 3.38.4-1ubuntu2 SourcePackage: gnome-shell UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1937127/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1937127] Re: Gnome-shell animations smoother when external monitor is connected
The issue has always existed. But with such a sharp edge between smooth and stuttering any slightest change in the GUI can push it over the edge. Also a little annoyingly, as we optimize more code it can sometimes make the problem *worse* as the GPU becomes less loaded and less likely to up-clock to smoothness. Triple buffering is really the only solution that works with all drivers. Although sometimes you can tweak the graphics driver to change its clock scaling behaviour, I don't know if there's a more elegant workaround possible for Intel. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to gnome-shell in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1937127 Title: Gnome-shell animations smoother when external monitor is connected Status in gnome-shell package in Ubuntu: In Progress Bug description: When no external monitor is connected Gnome Shell activities animation is sluggish. Once an external monitor is connected the animation becomes noticeably smoother. It looks like the OS is not properly responding to the extra processing demands by raising the CPU/GPU performance, and having an external monitor connected somehow triggers a higher performance level. This is on a System76 Darter Pro machine with Intel® Core™ i7-8565U and Intel UHD 620 running Ubuntu 21.04 in Wayland session. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 21.04 Package: gnome-shell 3.38.4-1ubuntu3~21.04.1 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 5.11.0-7620.21~1624379747~21.04~3abeff8~dev-generic 5.11.21 Uname: Linux 5.11.0-7620-generic x86_64 ApportVersion: 2.20.11-0ubuntu65.1 Architecture: amd64 CasperMD5CheckResult: pass CurrentDesktop: ubuntu:GNOME Date: Wed Jul 21 12:51:55 2021 DisplayManager: gdm3 InstallationDate: Installed on 2021-07-14 (7 days ago) InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 21.04 "Hirsute Hippo" - Release amd64 (20210420) RelatedPackageVersions: mutter-common 3.38.4-1ubuntu2 SourcePackage: gnome-shell UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1937127/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1937127] Re: Gnome-shell animations smoother when external monitor is connected
That sounds like a heavy solution to lock the frequency at the max. How come this issue wasn't there in PopOS 20.04 (wayland session)? Was there a regression somewhere in the stack in 21.04, or is PopOS doing its own tuning? I haven't tried Ubuntu 20.04, nor PopOS 21.04, to know whether PopOS was doing something different, or just the older stack. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to gnome-shell in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1937127 Title: Gnome-shell animations smoother when external monitor is connected Status in gnome-shell package in Ubuntu: In Progress Bug description: When no external monitor is connected Gnome Shell activities animation is sluggish. Once an external monitor is connected the animation becomes noticeably smoother. It looks like the OS is not properly responding to the extra processing demands by raising the CPU/GPU performance, and having an external monitor connected somehow triggers a higher performance level. This is on a System76 Darter Pro machine with Intel® Core™ i7-8565U and Intel UHD 620 running Ubuntu 21.04 in Wayland session. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 21.04 Package: gnome-shell 3.38.4-1ubuntu3~21.04.1 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 5.11.0-7620.21~1624379747~21.04~3abeff8~dev-generic 5.11.21 Uname: Linux 5.11.0-7620-generic x86_64 ApportVersion: 2.20.11-0ubuntu65.1 Architecture: amd64 CasperMD5CheckResult: pass CurrentDesktop: ubuntu:GNOME Date: Wed Jul 21 12:51:55 2021 DisplayManager: gdm3 InstallationDate: Installed on 2021-07-14 (7 days ago) InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 21.04 "Hirsute Hippo" - Release amd64 (20210420) RelatedPackageVersions: mutter-common 3.38.4-1ubuntu2 SourcePackage: gnome-shell UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1937127/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1937127] Re: Gnome-shell animations smoother when external monitor is connected
I was just trying to avoid getting people's hopes up but most likely finished within months. Triple buffering itself is finished but it breaks the Wayland backend so that needs fixing yet. And yes there is a hack to make an Intel GPU perform better at the expense of power and heat: cd /sys/class/drm/card0 sudo cp gt_max_freq_mhz gt_min_freq_mhz That's what I use on my desktop. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to gnome-shell in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1937127 Title: Gnome-shell animations smoother when external monitor is connected Status in gnome-shell package in Ubuntu: In Progress Bug description: When no external monitor is connected Gnome Shell activities animation is sluggish. Once an external monitor is connected the animation becomes noticeably smoother. It looks like the OS is not properly responding to the extra processing demands by raising the CPU/GPU performance, and having an external monitor connected somehow triggers a higher performance level. This is on a System76 Darter Pro machine with Intel® Core™ i7-8565U and Intel UHD 620 running Ubuntu 21.04 in Wayland session. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 21.04 Package: gnome-shell 3.38.4-1ubuntu3~21.04.1 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 5.11.0-7620.21~1624379747~21.04~3abeff8~dev-generic 5.11.21 Uname: Linux 5.11.0-7620-generic x86_64 ApportVersion: 2.20.11-0ubuntu65.1 Architecture: amd64 CasperMD5CheckResult: pass CurrentDesktop: ubuntu:GNOME Date: Wed Jul 21 12:51:55 2021 DisplayManager: gdm3 InstallationDate: Installed on 2021-07-14 (7 days ago) InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 21.04 "Hirsute Hippo" - Release amd64 (20210420) RelatedPackageVersions: mutter-common 3.38.4-1ubuntu2 SourcePackage: gnome-shell UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1937127/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1937127] Re: Gnome-shell animations smoother when external monitor is connected
Years? Ouch. That's a bit too much. I understand that the switch to triple buffering can be a lot of work, but isn't there some hacky solution to improve the situation in the mean time? Something like manually telling the GPU to be in the same mode that it's in when an external monitor is connected, at least when an the machine is plugged into a power outlet? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to gnome-shell in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1937127 Title: Gnome-shell animations smoother when external monitor is connected Status in gnome-shell package in Ubuntu: In Progress Bug description: When no external monitor is connected Gnome Shell activities animation is sluggish. Once an external monitor is connected the animation becomes noticeably smoother. It looks like the OS is not properly responding to the extra processing demands by raising the CPU/GPU performance, and having an external monitor connected somehow triggers a higher performance level. This is on a System76 Darter Pro machine with Intel® Core™ i7-8565U and Intel UHD 620 running Ubuntu 21.04 in Wayland session. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 21.04 Package: gnome-shell 3.38.4-1ubuntu3~21.04.1 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 5.11.0-7620.21~1624379747~21.04~3abeff8~dev-generic 5.11.21 Uname: Linux 5.11.0-7620-generic x86_64 ApportVersion: 2.20.11-0ubuntu65.1 Architecture: amd64 CasperMD5CheckResult: pass CurrentDesktop: ubuntu:GNOME Date: Wed Jul 21 12:51:55 2021 DisplayManager: gdm3 InstallationDate: Installed on 2021-07-14 (7 days ago) InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 21.04 "Hirsute Hippo" - Release amd64 (20210420) RelatedPackageVersions: mutter-common 3.38.4-1ubuntu2 SourcePackage: gnome-shell UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1937127/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1937127] Re: Gnome-shell animations smoother when external monitor is connected
Yes gnome-shell/mutter currently causes the GPU to stay in low power mode too much, unless you add extra demand. This will be fixed in https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/-/merge_requests/1441 or similar but it will take some months (or years) to complete. ** Changed in: gnome-shell (Ubuntu) Assignee: (unassigned) => Daniel van Vugt (vanvugt) ** Tags added: performance ** Changed in: gnome-shell (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided => Medium ** Changed in: gnome-shell (Ubuntu) Status: New => In Progress -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to gnome-shell in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1937127 Title: Gnome-shell animations smoother when external monitor is connected Status in gnome-shell package in Ubuntu: In Progress Bug description: When no external monitor is connected Gnome Shell activities animation is sluggish. Once an external monitor is connected the animation becomes noticeably smoother. It looks like the OS is not properly responding to the extra processing demands by raising the CPU/GPU performance, and having an external monitor connected somehow triggers a higher performance level. This is on a System76 Darter Pro machine with Intel® Core™ i7-8565U and Intel UHD 620 running Ubuntu 21.04 in Wayland session. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 21.04 Package: gnome-shell 3.38.4-1ubuntu3~21.04.1 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 5.11.0-7620.21~1624379747~21.04~3abeff8~dev-generic 5.11.21 Uname: Linux 5.11.0-7620-generic x86_64 ApportVersion: 2.20.11-0ubuntu65.1 Architecture: amd64 CasperMD5CheckResult: pass CurrentDesktop: ubuntu:GNOME Date: Wed Jul 21 12:51:55 2021 DisplayManager: gdm3 InstallationDate: Installed on 2021-07-14 (7 days ago) InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 21.04 "Hirsute Hippo" - Release amd64 (20210420) RelatedPackageVersions: mutter-common 3.38.4-1ubuntu2 SourcePackage: gnome-shell UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1937127/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
