[Desktop-packages] [Bug 422012] Re: Protected files hidden by Trash
** Changed in: nautilus (Ubuntu) Assignee: Ubuntu Desktop Bugs (desktop-bugs) => (unassigned) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to nautilus in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/422012 Title: Emptying the trash can lead to have files still on disk in expunged Status in nautilus package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in thunar package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: Binary package hint: nautilus When moving files to the Trash which are belong to another user and you don't have access to, nautilus moves the files into a folder ~/.local/share/Trash/expunged. The problem is that there is no warning that this is happening and the location of the files is far from obvious. I only discovered the folder by using disk analyser and finding that there was a massive folder in ~/.local/share/Trash/expunged. It transpired after deleting the offending files that there had been some 70Gb worth of files!!! Would it not make far more sense from a function point of view to move the files into the Trash as per normal but just fail to empty them? At least you would be able to see them and know that you needed to do something! To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/422012/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 422012] Re: Protected files hidden by Trash
THe bug is stll here in 2019, on 18.04.1! I had loads of files in .local/share/Trash/expunged. Removing them, they vanished, (rapidly), but the disc space occupied has not been released. 256GB on this machine, and it has run out of space. Backups of home/user are taking up 192GB. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to nautilus in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/422012 Title: Protected files hidden by Trash Status in nautilus package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in thunar package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: Binary package hint: nautilus When moving files to the Trash which are belong to another user and you don't have access to, nautilus moves the files into a folder ~/.local/share/Trash/expunged. The problem is that there is no warning that this is happening and the location of the files is far from obvious. I only discovered the folder by using disk analyser and finding that there was a massive folder in ~/.local/share/Trash/expunged. It transpired after deleting the offending files that there had been some 70Gb worth of files!!! Would it not make far more sense from a function point of view to move the files into the Trash as per normal but just fail to empty them? At least you would be able to see them and know that you needed to do something! To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/422012/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 422012] Re: Protected files hidden by Trash
What happens is that when a directory hierarchy is deleted in nautilus (or any other application that uses the method explained by Martin in comment 16), it gets moved to the $trash/files directory, and then when the trash gets emptied, that hierarchy is moved to the $trash/expunged directory, after which it should be deleted. Unfortunately, deleting all those files is not always possible when somewhere down the tree there are files or directories with permissions that don't allow them to be deleted by the desktop user, and then those files remain there forever, without any warning for the user... -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to nautilus in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/422012 Title: Protected files hidden by Trash Status in “nautilus” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in “thunar” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: Binary package hint: nautilus When moving files to the Trash which are belong to another user and you don't have access to, nautilus moves the files into a folder ~/.local/share/Trash/expunged. The problem is that there is no warning that this is happening and the location of the files is far from obvious. I only discovered the folder by using disk analyser and finding that there was a massive folder in ~/.local/share/Trash/expunged. It transpired after deleting the offending files that there had been some 70Gb worth of files!!! Would it not make far more sense from a function point of view to move the files into the Trash as per normal but just fail to empty them? At least you would be able to see them and know that you needed to do something! To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/422012/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 422012] Re: Protected files hidden by Trash
As far as I understand (unfortunately, I can't find any documentation on this) files that are deleted from the trash are first moved to expunged (because moving files is fast), and then are slowly deleted from expunged (slowly because deleting a lot of files takes time and doing it too fast could slow down the whole computer). This means that having files in expunged is not necessarily a problem, as long as these files get deleted over time. If there are files in expunged that do not vanish over time, the output from the following command could probably help the maintainers in figuring this bug out: LANG=C ls -l ~/.local/share/Trash/expunged -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to nautilus in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/422012 Title: Protected files hidden by Trash Status in “nautilus” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in “thunar” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: Binary package hint: nautilus When moving files to the Trash which are belong to another user and you don't have access to, nautilus moves the files into a folder ~/.local/share/Trash/expunged. The problem is that there is no warning that this is happening and the location of the files is far from obvious. I only discovered the folder by using disk analyser and finding that there was a massive folder in ~/.local/share/Trash/expunged. It transpired after deleting the offending files that there had been some 70Gb worth of files!!! Would it not make far more sense from a function point of view to move the files into the Trash as per normal but just fail to empty them? At least you would be able to see them and know that you needed to do something! To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/422012/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 422012] Re: Protected files hidden by Trash
I confirm the issue with 11.10, GNOME/Nautilus 3.2.1. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to nautilus in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/422012 Title: Protected files hidden by Trash Status in “nautilus” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in “thunar” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: Binary package hint: nautilus When moving files to the Trash which are belong to another user and you don't have access to, nautilus moves the files into a folder ~/.local/share/Trash/expunged. The problem is that there is no warning that this is happening and the location of the files is far from obvious. I only discovered the folder by using disk analyser and finding that there was a massive folder in ~/.local/share/Trash/expunged. It transpired after deleting the offending files that there had been some 70Gb worth of files!!! Would it not make far more sense from a function point of view to move the files into the Trash as per normal but just fail to empty them? At least you would be able to see them and know that you needed to do something! To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/422012/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 422012] Re: Protected files hidden by Trash
I confirm this behavior with Thunar too. ** Also affects: thunar (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Changed in: thunar (Ubuntu) Status: New = Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to nautilus in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/422012 Title: Protected files hidden by Trash Status in “nautilus” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in “thunar” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: Binary package hint: nautilus When moving files to the Trash which are belong to another user and you don't have access to, nautilus moves the files into a folder ~/.local/share/Trash/expunged. The problem is that there is no warning that this is happening and the location of the files is far from obvious. I only discovered the folder by using disk analyser and finding that there was a massive folder in ~/.local/share/Trash/expunged. It transpired after deleting the offending files that there had been some 70Gb worth of files!!! Would it not make far more sense from a function point of view to move the files into the Trash as per normal but just fail to empty them? At least you would be able to see them and know that you needed to do something! To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/422012/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 422012] Re: Protected files hidden by Trash
This happened to me not on my main drive but on a USB thumb drive I use for backup, formatted with FAT32. The backup program kept telling me the drive was full, so I suspected if the files were not actually deleted, so I searched for a bit and found 5GB of files in /media/DriveLabel/.Trash-1000/expunged. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to nautilus in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/422012 Title: Protected files hidden by Trash Status in “nautilus” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: Binary package hint: nautilus When moving files to the Trash which are belong to another user and you don't have access to, nautilus moves the files into a folder ~/.local/share/Trash/expunged. The problem is that there is no warning that this is happening and the location of the files is far from obvious. I only discovered the folder by using disk analyser and finding that there was a massive folder in ~/.local/share/Trash/expunged. It transpired after deleting the offending files that there had been some 70Gb worth of files!!! Would it not make far more sense from a function point of view to move the files into the Trash as per normal but just fail to empty them? At least you would be able to see them and know that you needed to do something! To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/422012/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
