[Desktop-packages] [Bug 48671] Re: Cannot rename by clicking on a file

2023-02-06 Thread Paul White
Upstream issue was closed in 2021-06-18 as "RESOLVED OBSOLETE"
after 14 years of no activity. I'm removing the Papercuts task as
any change needs to happen upstream in GNOME and not in Ubuntu.

** No longer affects: hundredpapercuts

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Bug description:
  In Windows explorer, clicking a file and then clicking once more on
  the file name will enter "rename file" mode. Nautilus doesn't do this.

  Isn't it a useful feature to have?

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 48671] Re: Cannot rename by clicking on a file

2018-09-21 Thread Daniel Stimers
I would like to see this as a feature for Lubuntu.

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  In Windows explorer, clicking a file and then clicking once more on
  the file name will enter "rename file" mode. Nautilus doesn't do this.

  Isn't it a useful feature to have?

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 48671] Re: Cannot rename by clicking on a file

2014-05-24 Thread Alberto Salvia Novella
** Changed in: hundredpapercuts
 Assignee: Papercuts Ninjas (papercuts-ninja) = (unassigned)

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Bug description:
  In Windows explorer, clicking a file and then clicking once more on
  the file name will enter rename file mode. Nautilus doesn't do this.

  Isn't it a useful feature to have?

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 48671] Re: Cannot rename by clicking on a file

2013-05-28 Thread Alberto Salvia Novella
** Changed in: hundredpapercuts
   Status: Confirmed = Triaged

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Bug description:
  In Windows explorer, clicking a file and then clicking once more on
  the file name will enter rename file mode. Nautilus doesn't do this.

  Isn't it a useful feature to have?

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 48671] Re: Cannot rename by clicking on a file

2013-05-27 Thread Chris Wilson
** Changed in: hundredpapercuts
Milestone: papercuts-nautilus = papercuts-s-nautilus

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Bug description:
  In Windows explorer, clicking a file and then clicking once more on
  the file name will enter rename file mode. Nautilus doesn't do this.

  Isn't it a useful feature to have?

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Re: [Desktop-packages] [Bug 48671] Re: Cannot rename by clicking on a file

2013-05-09 Thread Martian
*I understand some people rename files like that, but...*

Apperantly you do not. It is not convenient what you aren't used to,
period. It does not matter at all what reasoning you come up with.


On 8 May 2013 19:47, Alberto Salvia Novella es204904...@gmail.com wrote:

 I understand some people rename files like that, but in this very
 specific case the removed method is considerably worse than the left
 one. Perhaps it's more intuitive for some people, but its horrible.

 In my long years as Windows user, even before having used any different
 operating system before, I used to ask myself who the hell would like to
 rename files using such a slow method; and many times seen users getting
 confused renaming files by accident.

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 Bug description:
   In Windows explorer, clicking a file and then clicking once more on
   the file name will enter rename file mode. Nautilus doesn't do this.

   Isn't it a useful feature to have?

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Bug description:
  In Windows explorer, clicking a file and then clicking once more on
  the file name will enter rename file mode. Nautilus doesn't do this.

  Isn't it a useful feature to have?

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 48671] Re: Cannot rename by clicking on a file

2013-05-09 Thread BS-Harou
@Lem: No, but I often use only touchpad, where it takes that few
milliseconds more time to move the mouse to the right place instead of
just waiting on the same spot... Anyway, I do use the right-click way
now as there isn't any other mouse-way of dong that, but it feels
uncomfortable - especially with the touchpad.

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Bug description:
  In Windows explorer, clicking a file and then clicking once more on
  the file name will enter rename file mode. Nautilus doesn't do this.

  Isn't it a useful feature to have?

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Re: [Desktop-packages] [Bug 48671] Re: Cannot rename by clicking on a file

2013-05-08 Thread Martian
You can wait for that, they don't give a crap about user requests. The
entire Gnome/Unity UI concept is going against most users' needs.


On 7 May 2013 15:47, BS-Harou har...@gmail.com wrote:

 @Lem: Most of the time I don't really need to write a new name. Mostly I
 just want to copy the name or remove part of the name. Also I use both
 Windows and Ubuntu and I don't want two different behaviors in my head.
 I like the Windows way better and I'd like to stick with what I'm use to
 - that is click-wait-click. I don't mind if it is not default behavior.
 All I need is an option to turn it on.

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 Bug description:
   In Windows explorer, clicking a file and then clicking once more on
   the file name will enter rename file mode. Nautilus doesn't do this.

   Isn't it a useful feature to have?

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Bug description:
  In Windows explorer, clicking a file and then clicking once more on
  the file name will enter rename file mode. Nautilus doesn't do this.

  Isn't it a useful feature to have?

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 48671] Re: Cannot rename by clicking on a file

2013-05-08 Thread Alberto Salvia Novella
Productivity and ease of use in Unity is very high for me compared to
others UIs, and in my opinion a file shouldn't be renamed by clicking on
it. This is the kind of things you have always to take care for not
doing by accident; and by putting the option only into the menu,
specially when doing it by clicking on is much slower than using the
menu, is an ultra good idea.

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 48671] Re: Cannot rename by clicking on a file

2013-05-08 Thread Petko Ditchev
I agree that most times  GNOME/Unity devs cut too much of the settings
out , but in this case I don't think this is something important enough
that it should go into the settings  (it's out of the question for
defaults - despite the fact that most people working with windows have
gotten used to renaming this way - it's slow and you get into it by
accident . It's just not that good from the get go ) Just get used to
using F2 for renaming , because this is not really a Windows-Linux
adaptation issue that someone is going to seriosly look into.

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  In Windows explorer, clicking a file and then clicking once more on
  the file name will enter rename file mode. Nautilus doesn't do this.

  Isn't it a useful feature to have?

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Re: [Desktop-packages] [Bug 48671] Re: Cannot rename by clicking on a file

2013-05-08 Thread Martian
So roughly 90% of PC users can be ignored. And you wonder why Linux is
unable to gain popularity. And you say it's freedom when you decide how
others should think and act. You try to educate hardware manufacturers the
exact same way, this one of the reasons they don't care about Linux
support. And they are damn right, arrogant people in the Linux community do
not deserve it, they can do it on their own, the freedom is there to do so.
(MS showed the exact same arrogance with Win8 UI, the only difference is
they realised they screwed up badly.)
Just to add to your high reasoning. There aren't many people around who
rename files for a living, so time doesn't really matter in this case,
convenience does. Clicking again a second later is convenient, and then
selecting the position where you want to edit is convenient also. When you
have to rename a lot of files, you do a batch rename, not the F2 BS.
Activating renaming by accident happens once in a blue moon, to exit it all
you have to do is to do what you really wanted, inactivating the file item
or reactivating will cancel the renaming in Windows Explorer.


On 8 May 2013 10:45, Petko Ditchev 48...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote:

 I agree that most times  GNOME/Unity devs cut too much of the settings
 out , but in this case I don't think this is something important enough
 that it should go into the settings  (it's out of the question for
 defaults - despite the fact that most people working with windows have
 gotten used to renaming this way - it's slow and you get into it by
 accident . It's just not that good from the get go ) Just get used to
 using F2 for renaming , because this is not really a Windows-Linux
 adaptation issue that someone is going to seriosly look into.

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 Bug description:
   In Windows explorer, clicking a file and then clicking once more on
   the file name will enter rename file mode. Nautilus doesn't do this.

   Isn't it a useful feature to have?

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Bug description:
  In Windows explorer, clicking a file and then clicking once more on
  the file name will enter rename file mode. Nautilus doesn't do this.

  Isn't it a useful feature to have?

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 48671] Re: Cannot rename by clicking on a file

2013-05-08 Thread Lem
@Martin: If you really want to use the mouse, what's wrong with right
click file - rename? The second it takes to activate and navigate a
context menu is the same as waiting for the delay for left-click-rename.
Don't tell me you've got a one button mouse :P

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Re: [Desktop-packages] [Bug 48671] Re: Cannot rename by clicking on a file

2013-05-08 Thread Martian
I could even hit F2. The point is that people socialised on Windows always
try to click twice first. Anything else is inconvenient, any reasoning and
why don't you... is perfectly pointless and ignorant.


On 8 May 2013 17:53, Lem 48...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote:

 @Martin: If you really want to use the mouse, what's wrong with right
 click file - rename? The second it takes to activate and navigate a
 context menu is the same as waiting for the delay for left-click-rename.
 Don't tell me you've got a one button mouse :P

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  In Windows explorer, clicking a file and then clicking once more on
  the file name will enter rename file mode. Nautilus doesn't do this.

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 48671] Re: Cannot rename by clicking on a file

2013-05-08 Thread Alberto Salvia Novella
I understand some people rename files like that, but in this very
specific case the removed method is considerably worse than the left
one. Perhaps it's more intuitive for some people, but its horrible.

In my long years as Windows user, even before having used any different
operating system before, I used to ask myself who the hell would like to
rename files using such a slow method; and many times seen users getting
confused renaming files by accident.

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  In Windows explorer, clicking a file and then clicking once more on
  the file name will enter rename file mode. Nautilus doesn't do this.

  Isn't it a useful feature to have?

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 48671] Re: Cannot rename by clicking on a file

2013-05-07 Thread BS-Harou
@Lem: Most of the time I don't really need to write a new name. Mostly I
just want to copy the name or remove part of the name. Also I use both
Windows and Ubuntu and I don't want two different behaviors in my head.
I like the Windows way better and I'd like to stick with what I'm use to
- that is click-wait-click. I don't mind if it is not default behavior.
All I need is an option to turn it on.

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  In Windows explorer, clicking a file and then clicking once more on
  the file name will enter rename file mode. Nautilus doesn't do this.

  Isn't it a useful feature to have?

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 48671] Re: Cannot rename by clicking on a file

2013-05-06 Thread BS-Harou
I just want to say I really miss this feature in ubuntu. Every time I
want to rename a file I firstly try this only to realize it is not
possible. I prefer using mouse to keyboard as much as possible and not
having this feature is really sad.

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Re: [Desktop-packages] [Bug 48671] Re: Cannot rename by clicking on a file

2013-05-06 Thread Laurent Dinclaux
2013/5/7 BS-Harou har...@gmail.com

 I just want to say I really miss this feature in ubuntu. Every time I
 want to rename a file I firstly try this only to realize it is not
 possible. I prefer using mouse to keyboard as much as possible and not
 having this feature is really sad.


Just get use of using F2. I got used now and the F2 shortcut works on other
OSes too.

So now it doesn't annoy me anymore ;-]

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 48671] Re: Cannot rename by clicking on a file

2013-05-06 Thread Lem
@BS-Harou: So, how do you actually rename a file without using the
keyboard? The point being, pressing F2 to rename is no inconvenience,
because you're going to be using the keyboard anyway.

Plus, to this day, I still accidentally activate rename mode on Windows,
and it's annoying. I hope we don't get this feature in Nautilus ;)

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  Isn't it a useful feature to have?

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 48671] Re: Cannot rename by clicking on a file

2012-12-17 Thread Ignacio Martin Rodriguez
@Dario, I completely agree with you.
This feature should be added to nautilus in the same way OSX implements it, not 
the windows way. It would  even be touch friendly.
This is one example of the reasons why people critizise gnome devs. This is not 
about people asking for features and not contributing, but rejecting people's 
contributions because they think to know best what users need. Even removing 
features has been a gnomish feature for so long.

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 48671] Re: Cannot rename by clicking on a file

2012-12-13 Thread Chris Wilson
** Changed in: hundredpapercuts
   Status: Invalid = Confirmed

** Changed in: hundredpapercuts
   Importance: High = Wishlist

** Changed in: hundredpapercuts
Milestone: None = papercuts-nautilus

** Changed in: hundredpapercuts
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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 48671] Re: Cannot rename by clicking on a file

2012-12-13 Thread Bernhard
Since the discussion started again, let us remind ourselves why we
didn't want this feature. There are too many accidental clicks and more
often than not you find yourselves renaming a file that you never wanted
to.

Also happy that this feature does not exist in Linux. To Martian and
David, please use the right-click and rename option, it's just as quick
once you are used to it.

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Re: [Desktop-packages] [Bug 48671] Re: Cannot rename by clicking on a file

2012-12-13 Thread Martian
No, it doesn't happen often at all that you accidentally click on a file
twice and on the file name the second time (millions of people are used to
it), it's just an excuse to justify your silly decision.
Like I said, implementing it as an option wouldn't hurt anybody, especially
with a default setting disabled, and wouldn't take much of an effort either.
But again, Linux people always know what's good for everybody and so
everybody should adapt to them. Good luck with this approach and keep
waiting for the year of the Linux. ;)


On 13 December 2012 08:04, Bernhard 48...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote:

 Since the discussion started again, let us remind ourselves why we
 didn't want this feature. There are too many accidental clicks and more
 often than not you find yourselves renaming a file that you never wanted
 to.

 Also happy that this feature does not exist in Linux. To Martian and
 David, please use the right-click and rename option, it's just as quick
 once you are used to it.

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 48671] Re: Cannot rename by clicking on a file

2012-12-13 Thread Sebastien Bacher
@Martian: could you please stop those sneaking comments? they are not
welcome here

To maintain a respectful atmosphere, please follow the code of conduct -
http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/conduct . Bug reports are
handled by humans, the majority of whom are volunteers, so please bear
this in mind.

It's also worth noting that you discuss with other users, they share
their option but are not the one who implemented the current behaviour
or decided or it, so justify your...decision is just plainly false,
they didn't decide of anything and have no justification to give

also, options are not a solution to usability issues, that's just
complicating the UI for everyone and often not a step in the right
direction

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Re: [Desktop-packages] [Bug 48671] Re: Cannot rename by clicking on a file

2012-12-13 Thread Martian
I'm sorry for having an opinion, I didn't know it's prohibited here.
Also, I understand since Linux is a very simple and clear-out design in
general, it would hurt the concept to give users freedom at the expense of
simplicity.
Forgive me for bothering you, won't happen ever again.


On 13 December 2012 09:18, Sebastien Bacher seb...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 @Martian: could you please stop those sneaking comments? they are not
 welcome here

 To maintain a respectful atmosphere, please follow the code of conduct -
 http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/conduct . Bug reports are
 handled by humans, the majority of whom are volunteers, so please bear
 this in mind.

 It's also worth noting that you discuss with other users, they share
 their option but are not the one who implemented the current behaviour
 or decided or it, so justify your...decision is just plainly false,
 they didn't decide of anything and have no justification to give

 also, options are not a solution to usability issues, that's just
 complicating the UI for everyone and often not a step in the right
 direction

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 Bug description:
   In Windows explorer, clicking a file and then clicking once more on
   the file name will enter rename file mode. Nautilus doesn't do this.

   Isn't it a useful feature to have?

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Re: [Desktop-packages] [Bug 48671] Re: Cannot rename by clicking on a file

2012-12-13 Thread David Huggins-Daines
@Seb: I'm sorry, actually it was me that revived this discussion with a
rather flaming diatribe.  Thank you for directing me to the original
Nautilus bug - for some reason Google doesn't pick it up, and I really
wanted to know what the process was that led to this decision.  I find it
surprising, because it violates what I think of as generally accepted human
interface guidelines (don't require right clicks or keyboard shortcuts,
direct manipulation, etc).

For me this is a papercut, as I use Windows and Mac OS X regularly and am
always surprised when I try to use Nautilus in the same way as I'd use the
Finder or Explorer.  Of course, on Linux, it's often much faster (though
not very user-friendly) to just use the shell to manage files.

I know there's some concern that people will rename files accidentally, but
on Mac OS, click-to-rename only happens if you click on the filename, not
on the icon.  This seems like a pretty good compromise as it makes it clear
that you're trying to operate on the file name and not the file itself.
I've seen this user interface pattern elsewhere too...


On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 9:18 AM, Sebastien Bacher seb...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 @Martian: could you please stop those sneaking comments? they are not
 welcome here

 To maintain a respectful atmosphere, please follow the code of conduct -
 http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/conduct . Bug reports are
 handled by humans, the majority of whom are volunteers, so please bear
 this in mind.

 It's also worth noting that you discuss with other users, they share
 their option but are not the one who implemented the current behaviour
 or decided or it, so justify your...decision is just plainly false,
 they didn't decide of anything and have no justification to give

 also, options are not a solution to usability issues, that's just
 complicating the UI for everyone and often not a step in the right
 direction

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Re: [Desktop-packages] [Bug 48671] Re: Cannot rename by clicking on a file

2012-12-13 Thread David Huggins-Daines
Of course, on Mac OS, you can also hit return to rename a file:

http://www.tuaw.com/2007/04/26/mac-101-a-simple-trick-to-rename-files/

In Nautilus and on Windows, this opens the file, which is pretty expensive
and surprising if you do it by mistake...


On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 9:53 AM, David Huggins Daines dhdai...@gmail.comwrote:

 @Seb: I'm sorry, actually it was me that revived this discussion with a
 rather flaming diatribe.  Thank you for directing me to the original
 Nautilus bug - for some reason Google doesn't pick it up, and I really
 wanted to know what the process was that led to this decision.  I find it
 surprising, because it violates what I think of as generally accepted human
 interface guidelines (don't require right clicks or keyboard shortcuts,
 direct manipulation, etc).

 For me this is a papercut, as I use Windows and Mac OS X regularly and am
 always surprised when I try to use Nautilus in the same way as I'd use the
 Finder or Explorer.  Of course, on Linux, it's often much faster (though
 not very user-friendly) to just use the shell to manage files.

 I know there's some concern that people will rename files accidentally,
 but on Mac OS, click-to-rename only happens if you click on the filename,
 not on the icon.  This seems like a pretty good compromise as it makes it
 clear that you're trying to operate on the file name and not the file
 itself.  I've seen this user interface pattern elsewhere too...



 On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 9:18 AM, Sebastien Bacher seb...@ubuntu.comwrote:

 @Martian: could you please stop those sneaking comments? they are not
 welcome here

 To maintain a respectful atmosphere, please follow the code of conduct -
 http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/conduct . Bug reports are
 handled by humans, the majority of whom are volunteers, so please bear
 this in mind.

 It's also worth noting that you discuss with other users, they share
 their option but are not the one who implemented the current behaviour
 or decided or it, so justify your...decision is just plainly false,
 they didn't decide of anything and have no justification to give

 also, options are not a solution to usability issues, that's just
 complicating the UI for everyone and often not a step in the right
 direction

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 48671] Re: Cannot rename by clicking on a file

2012-12-13 Thread Sebastien Bacher
@Martian:

 I'm sorry for having an opinion, I didn't know it's prohibited here.

having an opinion is fine...

statements like option for those perverts who want it, just an excuse
to justify your silly decision and This is a perfect example of the
negligance and arrogance of the immature people are not opinions but
direct agression though and that's not fine

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 48671] Re: Cannot rename by clicking on a file

2012-12-13 Thread Sebastien Bacher
@David: the upstream bug is listed in the bug statuses table at the top
of the launchpad page for info ;-)

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 48671] Re: Cannot rename by clicking on a file

2012-12-13 Thread Dario Ruellan
I also miss this feature, but I agree that the way Windows does it did not make 
sense: the single-click-wait mechanism is inconsistent.
I prefer OSX method of click-and-hold, this also has some analogy with 
touch-and-hold, and feels more natural.

The F2 shourtcut works fine (to rename a file/folder you need to touch
the keyboard anyway), but a shortcut mechanism on the touchpad/mouse
seems more convenient and easy to remember.

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 48671] Re: Cannot rename by clicking on a file

2012-12-12 Thread David Huggins-Daines
This discussion is profoundtly depressing.  Who was responsible for this
questionable UI choice in the first place?  Was it done to be
gratuitously (or patently) different from Mac OS X, Windows, KDE, and
every other desktop UI on the planet?

Speaking of planets, what planet do you people live on (or what HCI
program did you attend) where you think that *requiring* people to hit
an F-key or use the right mouse button (and a pop-up menu) to accomplish
a trivial task is a good idea?

Just because YOU are a computer expert who understands that hitting F2
or using a pop-up is really cool and efficient, doesn't mean that it's a
good UI choice.  Particularly when the entire driving philosophy of
Ubuntu for the last versions has been to make the UI simpler.

/rant

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 48671] Re: Cannot rename by clicking on a file

2012-12-12 Thread Sebastien Bacher
@David: thanks for your comment, some notes on the topic:

-   Who was responsible for this questionable UI choice in the first
place? Was it done to be gratuitously

why do you assume it was done (e.g that work was spent to have it the
current way)? could it be rather than the issue is that nobody
contributed the code to implement the behaviour you are asking for
there?

-  where you think that...is a good idea?

who stated the current way is a good one or even an idea? it looks
rather like a missing feature

- Ubuntu doesn't write nautilus, we just distribute it, if you want to
reach the people making the software you should comment on
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=439991


To go back to the bottom of the topic, the idea seems a good one and Ubuntu 
(and probably the people writing the software upstream) would probably review 
and apply a patch implementing it so if you know anyone interested to help 
there...

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 48671] Re: Cannot rename by clicking on a file

2012-12-12 Thread Lem
... And to this day, the click-to-rename functionality *still* annoys me
in Windows. I'm very happy that Nautilus doesn't have this feature.
Clearly there are plenty of people who feel the same (or at least don't
care for the click-to-rename feature), since after 10 years or more,
Nautilus still doesn't support it.

On touch interfaces, I'd expect using a long-press to access some sort
of file operations menu (including rename, copy, move, open, properties,
etc) would be the way to go. Everywhere else we have keyboards, F-keys,
and mice, do we not?

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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 48671] Re: Cannot rename by clicking on a file

2012-12-12 Thread Lem
Sorry to double post.. just thought I'd add that Nautilus in Ubuntu
12.10 has Rename in the right-click menu. The only improvement there
from a UI point of view that I could suggest is having the keyboard
shortcuts listed beside the options, like regular menus have done for
years now. That would at least make it somewhat discoverable.

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Re: [Desktop-packages] [Bug 48671] Re: Cannot rename by clicking on a file

2012-12-12 Thread Martian
How much effort would it take to implement it as an option for those
perverts who want it? This is a perfect example of the negligance and
arrogance of the immature people in the open-sauce community, don't get
surprised Linux still measures between zero and nothing as a desktop OS.


On 12 December 2012 18:20, Lem 48...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote:

 Sorry to double post.. just thought I'd add that Nautilus in Ubuntu
 12.10 has Rename in the right-click menu. The only improvement there
 from a UI point of view that I could suggest is having the keyboard
 shortcuts listed beside the options, like regular menus have done for
 years now. That would at least make it somewhat discoverable.

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