[Desktop-packages] [Bug 817326] Re: [Upstream] Previously-saved LibreOffice document lost by power outage (became 0 bytes long) - LibreOffice should call fsync
Apparently the LibreOffice bug described in the previous posts is still in operation on version 5.3. The other day, while I was working in a document in LibreOffice 5.3 a split-second outage made my computer shut down. The 'save auto-recovery information every' field was selected and set at 10-minutes interval. I also and saved the document more often. Power outages had happened to me dozens of times while working on OpenOffice and other word processors, and the file recovery process was always capable of recovering most of the work. When I turned the computer on again the usual recovery window appeared (like on other word processors) informing me of the recovery process. I followed the steps carefully and expected to lose only a few minutes of work, but when the document opened there were several pages of work missing. It was almost the same document I had opened hours ago. Several hours of hard work just gone. There wasn't any backup of temp file or anything to retrieve an earlier version. I couldn't believe that happened. It wasn't a virus at all or anything other than a LibreOffice serious defect. That clearly shows that LibreOffice recovery function doesn't work, and attempting 'recovery' will only cause a large loss of data, even data saved manually while the document is open. This is a very serious bug, and in striking contrast with the most popular word processors, which, in my experience, always recover all data saved before the interval set in load/save options. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to libreoffice in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/817326 Title: [Upstream] Previously-saved LibreOffice document lost by power outage (became 0 bytes long) - LibreOffice should call fsync Status in LibreOffice: Fix Released Status in libreoffice package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: I was working on a document in LibreOffice today while my battery was low and so I was frequently saving, which I thought would help me if I lost power. However, when I eventually did lose power and later rebooted, the document had become 0 bytes long. LibreOffice was not able to restore the auto-saved copy either. As a result, I have lost a whole week of notes for one of my courses. After researching online, it seems that this is caused by the application not calling fsync() (or fdatasync()) when saving files. Due to delayed allocation in modern filesystems, there is no guarantee that the new file's data has actually been written to disk unless the application calls fsync. So if an app writes a new file and replaces the old one with it without fsync'ing the new one first then there is a window of opportunity during which a power failure will result in the loss of BOTH versions of the file. In ext4 this window is also much larger than in ext3. Theodore Tso blogged about this at http://ldn.linuxfoundation.org /blog-entry/delayed-allocation-and-zero-length-file-problem and http://www.linuxfoundation.org/news- media/blogs/browse/2009/03/don%E2%80%99t-fear-fsync. He strongly recommends to call fsync in this situation. Please update LibreOffice to fsync() saved files so that other users do not lose their data like I did. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 11.04 Package: libreoffice-core 1:3.3.2-1ubuntu5 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.38-8.42-generic 2.6.38.2 Uname: Linux 2.6.38-8-generic x86_64 Architecture: amd64 Date: Wed Jul 27 21:37:02 2011 InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS "Lucid Lynx" - Release amd64 (20100429) ProcEnviron: LANGUAGE=en_US:en LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash SourcePackage: libreoffice UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to natty on 2011-04-29 (89 days ago) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/df-libreoffice/+bug/817326/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 817326] Re: [Upstream] Previously-saved LibreOffice document lost by power outage (became 0 bytes long) - LibreOffice should call fsync
However I also have to discard hardware problems or even viruses, no matter how improbable be. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to libreoffice in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/817326 Title: [Upstream] Previously-saved LibreOffice document lost by power outage (became 0 bytes long) - LibreOffice should call fsync Status in LibreOffice: Fix Released Status in libreoffice package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: I was working on a document in LibreOffice today while my battery was low and so I was frequently saving, which I thought would help me if I lost power. However, when I eventually did lose power and later rebooted, the document had become 0 bytes long. LibreOffice was not able to restore the auto-saved copy either. As a result, I have lost a whole week of notes for one of my courses. After researching online, it seems that this is caused by the application not calling fsync() (or fdatasync()) when saving files. Due to delayed allocation in modern filesystems, there is no guarantee that the new file's data has actually been written to disk unless the application calls fsync. So if an app writes a new file and replaces the old one with it without fsync'ing the new one first then there is a window of opportunity during which a power failure will result in the loss of BOTH versions of the file. In ext4 this window is also much larger than in ext3. Theodore Tso blogged about this at http://ldn.linuxfoundation.org /blog-entry/delayed-allocation-and-zero-length-file-problem and http://www.linuxfoundation.org/news- media/blogs/browse/2009/03/don%E2%80%99t-fear-fsync. He strongly recommends to call fsync in this situation. Please update LibreOffice to fsync() saved files so that other users do not lose their data like I did. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 11.04 Package: libreoffice-core 1:3.3.2-1ubuntu5 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.38-8.42-generic 2.6.38.2 Uname: Linux 2.6.38-8-generic x86_64 Architecture: amd64 Date: Wed Jul 27 21:37:02 2011 InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS "Lucid Lynx" - Release amd64 (20100429) ProcEnviron: LANGUAGE=en_US:en LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash SourcePackage: libreoffice UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to natty on 2011-04-29 (89 days ago) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/df-libreoffice/+bug/817326/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 817326] Re: [Upstream] Previously-saved LibreOffice document lost by power outage (became 0 bytes long) - LibreOffice should call fsync
This bug has returned to live. LibreOffice 4.2.8.2 Compilation Id. 420m0 (build:2), with autobackup active each 15 min. Running on Ubuntu 14.04 LTS. ext4 hard disk. I opened a .doc, (previously created by LOW), made modifications (6 hour session) while continuously saving (each 5 minutes or so). Then I saved and closed the document and turned off the computer. When I came back, the file .doc was untouched as if any changes were made. I looked for similar files in all the hard disk (grep), I looked in the libreoffice backup directory (empty) and also I ran scalpel, at no avail. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to libreoffice in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/817326 Title: [Upstream] Previously-saved LibreOffice document lost by power outage (became 0 bytes long) - LibreOffice should call fsync Status in LibreOffice: Fix Released Status in libreoffice package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: I was working on a document in LibreOffice today while my battery was low and so I was frequently saving, which I thought would help me if I lost power. However, when I eventually did lose power and later rebooted, the document had become 0 bytes long. LibreOffice was not able to restore the auto-saved copy either. As a result, I have lost a whole week of notes for one of my courses. After researching online, it seems that this is caused by the application not calling fsync() (or fdatasync()) when saving files. Due to delayed allocation in modern filesystems, there is no guarantee that the new file's data has actually been written to disk unless the application calls fsync. So if an app writes a new file and replaces the old one with it without fsync'ing the new one first then there is a window of opportunity during which a power failure will result in the loss of BOTH versions of the file. In ext4 this window is also much larger than in ext3. Theodore Tso blogged about this at http://ldn.linuxfoundation.org /blog-entry/delayed-allocation-and-zero-length-file-problem and http://www.linuxfoundation.org/news- media/blogs/browse/2009/03/don%E2%80%99t-fear-fsync. He strongly recommends to call fsync in this situation. Please update LibreOffice to fsync() saved files so that other users do not lose their data like I did. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 11.04 Package: libreoffice-core 1:3.3.2-1ubuntu5 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.38-8.42-generic 2.6.38.2 Uname: Linux 2.6.38-8-generic x86_64 Architecture: amd64 Date: Wed Jul 27 21:37:02 2011 InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS "Lucid Lynx" - Release amd64 (20100429) ProcEnviron: LANGUAGE=en_US:en LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash SourcePackage: libreoffice UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to natty on 2011-04-29 (89 days ago) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/df-libreoffice/+bug/817326/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 817326] Re: [Upstream] Previously-saved LibreOffice document lost by power outage (became 0 bytes long) - LibreOffice should call fsync
A recovery option worked for me: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/22542527/recovering-odt-file-using- scalpel Scalpel and foremost are forensic tools which can recover from any kind of filesystem by greping all bytes on the disk. Works well for FAT USB stick... -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to libreoffice in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/817326 Title: [Upstream] Previously-saved LibreOffice document lost by power outage (became 0 bytes long) - LibreOffice should call fsync Status in LibreOffice Productivity Suite: Fix Released Status in libreoffice package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: I was working on a document in LibreOffice today while my battery was low and so I was frequently saving, which I thought would help me if I lost power. However, when I eventually did lose power and later rebooted, the document had become 0 bytes long. LibreOffice was not able to restore the auto-saved copy either. As a result, I have lost a whole week of notes for one of my courses. After researching online, it seems that this is caused by the application not calling fsync() (or fdatasync()) when saving files. Due to delayed allocation in modern filesystems, there is no guarantee that the new file's data has actually been written to disk unless the application calls fsync. So if an app writes a new file and replaces the old one with it without fsync'ing the new one first then there is a window of opportunity during which a power failure will result in the loss of BOTH versions of the file. In ext4 this window is also much larger than in ext3. Theodore Tso blogged about this at http://ldn.linuxfoundation.org /blog-entry/delayed-allocation-and-zero-length-file-problem and http://www.linuxfoundation.org/news- media/blogs/browse/2009/03/don%E2%80%99t-fear-fsync. He strongly recommends to call fsync in this situation. Please update LibreOffice to fsync() saved files so that other users do not lose their data like I did. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 11.04 Package: libreoffice-core 1:3.3.2-1ubuntu5 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.38-8.42-generic 2.6.38.2 Uname: Linux 2.6.38-8-generic x86_64 Architecture: amd64 Date: Wed Jul 27 21:37:02 2011 InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS Lucid Lynx - Release amd64 (20100429) ProcEnviron: LANGUAGE=en_US:en LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash SourcePackage: libreoffice UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to natty on 2011-04-29 (89 days ago) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/df-libreoffice/+bug/817326/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 817326] Re: [Upstream] Previously-saved LibreOffice document lost by power outage (became 0 bytes long) - LibreOffice should call fsync
Is there a chance that this will get an SRU for lucid? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to libreoffice in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/817326 Title: [Upstream] Previously-saved LibreOffice document lost by power outage (became 0 bytes long) - LibreOffice should call fsync Status in LibreOffice Productivity Suite: Fix Released Status in “libreoffice” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: I was working on a document in LibreOffice today while my battery was low and so I was frequently saving, which I thought would help me if I lost power. However, when I eventually did lose power and later rebooted, the document had become 0 bytes long. LibreOffice was not able to restore the auto-saved copy either. As a result, I have lost a whole week of notes for one of my courses. After researching online, it seems that this is caused by the application not calling fsync() (or fdatasync()) when saving files. Due to delayed allocation in modern filesystems, there is no guarantee that the new file's data has actually been written to disk unless the application calls fsync. So if an app writes a new file and replaces the old one with it without fsync'ing the new one first then there is a window of opportunity during which a power failure will result in the loss of BOTH versions of the file. In ext4 this window is also much larger than in ext3. Theodore Tso blogged about this at http://ldn.linuxfoundation.org /blog-entry/delayed-allocation-and-zero-length-file-problem and http://www.linuxfoundation.org/news- media/blogs/browse/2009/03/don%E2%80%99t-fear-fsync. He strongly recommends to call fsync in this situation. Please update LibreOffice to fsync() saved files so that other users do not lose their data like I did. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 11.04 Package: libreoffice-core 1:3.3.2-1ubuntu5 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.38-8.42-generic 2.6.38.2 Uname: Linux 2.6.38-8-generic x86_64 Architecture: amd64 Date: Wed Jul 27 21:37:02 2011 InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS Lucid Lynx - Release amd64 (20100429) ProcEnviron: LANGUAGE=en_US:en LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash SourcePackage: libreoffice UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to natty on 2011-04-29 (89 days ago) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/df-libreoffice/+bug/817326/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 817326] Re: [Upstream] Previously-saved LibreOffice document lost by power outage (became 0 bytes long) - LibreOffice should call fsync
This bug was fixed in the package libreoffice - 1:3.5.1-1ubuntu4 --- libreoffice (1:3.5.1-1ubuntu4) precise; urgency=low * version bump for bug 930217 libreoffice (1:3.5.1-1ubuntu3) precise-proposed; urgency=low * fix typo in control.in libreoffice (1:3.5.1-1ubuntu2) precise-proposed; urgency=low * call fsync on write (LP: #817326) * add a few conflicts for defusing the old -common dpkg-trigger around interfering (LP: #916291) * its com.sun.star.sdb.RowSet, not sdbc neither sbd * never let users save in /tmp by default (LP: #905355) -- Bjoern Michaelsen bjoern.michael...@canonical.com Fri, 30 Mar 2012 14:34:41 +0200 ** Changed in: libreoffice (Ubuntu) Status: Fix Committed = Fix Released -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to libreoffice in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/817326 Title: [Upstream] Previously-saved LibreOffice document lost by power outage (became 0 bytes long) - LibreOffice should call fsync Status in LibreOffice Productivity Suite: Fix Released Status in “libreoffice” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: I was working on a document in LibreOffice today while my battery was low and so I was frequently saving, which I thought would help me if I lost power. However, when I eventually did lose power and later rebooted, the document had become 0 bytes long. LibreOffice was not able to restore the auto-saved copy either. As a result, I have lost a whole week of notes for one of my courses. After researching online, it seems that this is caused by the application not calling fsync() (or fdatasync()) when saving files. Due to delayed allocation in modern filesystems, there is no guarantee that the new file's data has actually been written to disk unless the application calls fsync. So if an app writes a new file and replaces the old one with it without fsync'ing the new one first then there is a window of opportunity during which a power failure will result in the loss of BOTH versions of the file. In ext4 this window is also much larger than in ext3. Theodore Tso blogged about this at http://ldn.linuxfoundation.org /blog-entry/delayed-allocation-and-zero-length-file-problem and http://www.linuxfoundation.org/news- media/blogs/browse/2009/03/don%E2%80%99t-fear-fsync. He strongly recommends to call fsync in this situation. Please update LibreOffice to fsync() saved files so that other users do not lose their data like I did. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 11.04 Package: libreoffice-core 1:3.3.2-1ubuntu5 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.38-8.42-generic 2.6.38.2 Uname: Linux 2.6.38-8-generic x86_64 Architecture: amd64 Date: Wed Jul 27 21:37:02 2011 InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS Lucid Lynx - Release amd64 (20100429) ProcEnviron: LANGUAGE=en_US:en LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash SourcePackage: libreoffice UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to natty on 2011-04-29 (89 days ago) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/df-libreoffice/+bug/817326/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 817326] Re: [Upstream] Previously-saved LibreOffice document lost by power outage (became 0 bytes long) - LibreOffice should call fsync
** Changed in: df-libreoffice Status: Confirmed = Fix Released -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to libreoffice in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/817326 Title: [Upstream] Previously-saved LibreOffice document lost by power outage (became 0 bytes long) - LibreOffice should call fsync Status in LibreOffice Productivity Suite: Fix Released Status in “libreoffice” package in Ubuntu: Triaged Bug description: I was working on a document in LibreOffice today while my battery was low and so I was frequently saving, which I thought would help me if I lost power. However, when I eventually did lose power and later rebooted, the document had become 0 bytes long. LibreOffice was not able to restore the auto-saved copy either. As a result, I have lost a whole week of notes for one of my courses. After researching online, it seems that this is caused by the application not calling fsync() (or fdatasync()) when saving files. Due to delayed allocation in modern filesystems, there is no guarantee that the new file's data has actually been written to disk unless the application calls fsync. So if an app writes a new file and replaces the old one with it without fsync'ing the new one first then there is a window of opportunity during which a power failure will result in the loss of BOTH versions of the file. In ext4 this window is also much larger than in ext3. Theodore Tso blogged about this at http://ldn.linuxfoundation.org /blog-entry/delayed-allocation-and-zero-length-file-problem and http://www.linuxfoundation.org/news- media/blogs/browse/2009/03/don%E2%80%99t-fear-fsync. He strongly recommends to call fsync in this situation. Please update LibreOffice to fsync() saved files so that other users do not lose their data like I did. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 11.04 Package: libreoffice-core 1:3.3.2-1ubuntu5 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.38-8.42-generic 2.6.38.2 Uname: Linux 2.6.38-8-generic x86_64 Architecture: amd64 Date: Wed Jul 27 21:37:02 2011 InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS Lucid Lynx - Release amd64 (20100429) ProcEnviron: LANGUAGE=en_US:en LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash SourcePackage: libreoffice UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to natty on 2011-04-29 (89 days ago) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/df-libreoffice/+bug/817326/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 817326] Re: [Upstream] Previously-saved LibreOffice document lost by power outage (became 0 bytes long) - LibreOffice should call fsync
** Changed in: libreoffice (Ubuntu) Assignee: (unassigned) = Björn Michaelsen (bjoern-michaelsen) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to libreoffice in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/817326 Title: [Upstream] Previously-saved LibreOffice document lost by power outage (became 0 bytes long) - LibreOffice should call fsync Status in LibreOffice Productivity Suite: Fix Released Status in “libreoffice” package in Ubuntu: Triaged Bug description: I was working on a document in LibreOffice today while my battery was low and so I was frequently saving, which I thought would help me if I lost power. However, when I eventually did lose power and later rebooted, the document had become 0 bytes long. LibreOffice was not able to restore the auto-saved copy either. As a result, I have lost a whole week of notes for one of my courses. After researching online, it seems that this is caused by the application not calling fsync() (or fdatasync()) when saving files. Due to delayed allocation in modern filesystems, there is no guarantee that the new file's data has actually been written to disk unless the application calls fsync. So if an app writes a new file and replaces the old one with it without fsync'ing the new one first then there is a window of opportunity during which a power failure will result in the loss of BOTH versions of the file. In ext4 this window is also much larger than in ext3. Theodore Tso blogged about this at http://ldn.linuxfoundation.org /blog-entry/delayed-allocation-and-zero-length-file-problem and http://www.linuxfoundation.org/news- media/blogs/browse/2009/03/don%E2%80%99t-fear-fsync. He strongly recommends to call fsync in this situation. Please update LibreOffice to fsync() saved files so that other users do not lose their data like I did. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 11.04 Package: libreoffice-core 1:3.3.2-1ubuntu5 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.38-8.42-generic 2.6.38.2 Uname: Linux 2.6.38-8-generic x86_64 Architecture: amd64 Date: Wed Jul 27 21:37:02 2011 InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS Lucid Lynx - Release amd64 (20100429) ProcEnviron: LANGUAGE=en_US:en LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash SourcePackage: libreoffice UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to natty on 2011-04-29 (89 days ago) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/df-libreoffice/+bug/817326/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 817326] Re: [Upstream] Previously-saved LibreOffice document lost by power outage (became 0 bytes long) - LibreOffice should call fsync
fix commited on upstream master and backported to 3-5: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?h=libreoffice-3-5id=c6e22c0fc0cc4ce1508f8401c4b0c14fc89df942 ** Changed in: libreoffice (Ubuntu) Status: Triaged = In Progress -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to libreoffice in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/817326 Title: [Upstream] Previously-saved LibreOffice document lost by power outage (became 0 bytes long) - LibreOffice should call fsync Status in LibreOffice Productivity Suite: Fix Released Status in “libreoffice” package in Ubuntu: In Progress Bug description: I was working on a document in LibreOffice today while my battery was low and so I was frequently saving, which I thought would help me if I lost power. However, when I eventually did lose power and later rebooted, the document had become 0 bytes long. LibreOffice was not able to restore the auto-saved copy either. As a result, I have lost a whole week of notes for one of my courses. After researching online, it seems that this is caused by the application not calling fsync() (or fdatasync()) when saving files. Due to delayed allocation in modern filesystems, there is no guarantee that the new file's data has actually been written to disk unless the application calls fsync. So if an app writes a new file and replaces the old one with it without fsync'ing the new one first then there is a window of opportunity during which a power failure will result in the loss of BOTH versions of the file. In ext4 this window is also much larger than in ext3. Theodore Tso blogged about this at http://ldn.linuxfoundation.org /blog-entry/delayed-allocation-and-zero-length-file-problem and http://www.linuxfoundation.org/news- media/blogs/browse/2009/03/don%E2%80%99t-fear-fsync. He strongly recommends to call fsync in this situation. Please update LibreOffice to fsync() saved files so that other users do not lose their data like I did. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 11.04 Package: libreoffice-core 1:3.3.2-1ubuntu5 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.38-8.42-generic 2.6.38.2 Uname: Linux 2.6.38-8-generic x86_64 Architecture: amd64 Date: Wed Jul 27 21:37:02 2011 InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS Lucid Lynx - Release amd64 (20100429) ProcEnviron: LANGUAGE=en_US:en LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash SourcePackage: libreoffice UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to natty on 2011-04-29 (89 days ago) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/df-libreoffice/+bug/817326/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 817326] Re: [Upstream] Previously-saved LibreOffice document lost by power outage (became 0 bytes long) - LibreOffice should call fsync
backported to packaging with: http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg-openoffice/libreoffice.git;a=commitdiff;h=5384155d746ac839af7b3ff311d20f6c7e77bfad (will be fixed in upstream 3.5.2) ** Changed in: libreoffice (Ubuntu) Status: In Progress = Fix Committed ** Changed in: libreoffice (Ubuntu) Milestone: None = ubuntu-12.04 ** Tags added: fixed-in-upstream-3.5.2 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to libreoffice in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/817326 Title: [Upstream] Previously-saved LibreOffice document lost by power outage (became 0 bytes long) - LibreOffice should call fsync Status in LibreOffice Productivity Suite: Fix Released Status in “libreoffice” package in Ubuntu: Fix Committed Bug description: I was working on a document in LibreOffice today while my battery was low and so I was frequently saving, which I thought would help me if I lost power. However, when I eventually did lose power and later rebooted, the document had become 0 bytes long. LibreOffice was not able to restore the auto-saved copy either. As a result, I have lost a whole week of notes for one of my courses. After researching online, it seems that this is caused by the application not calling fsync() (or fdatasync()) when saving files. Due to delayed allocation in modern filesystems, there is no guarantee that the new file's data has actually been written to disk unless the application calls fsync. So if an app writes a new file and replaces the old one with it without fsync'ing the new one first then there is a window of opportunity during which a power failure will result in the loss of BOTH versions of the file. In ext4 this window is also much larger than in ext3. Theodore Tso blogged about this at http://ldn.linuxfoundation.org /blog-entry/delayed-allocation-and-zero-length-file-problem and http://www.linuxfoundation.org/news- media/blogs/browse/2009/03/don%E2%80%99t-fear-fsync. He strongly recommends to call fsync in this situation. Please update LibreOffice to fsync() saved files so that other users do not lose their data like I did. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 11.04 Package: libreoffice-core 1:3.3.2-1ubuntu5 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.38-8.42-generic 2.6.38.2 Uname: Linux 2.6.38-8-generic x86_64 Architecture: amd64 Date: Wed Jul 27 21:37:02 2011 InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS Lucid Lynx - Release amd64 (20100429) ProcEnviron: LANGUAGE=en_US:en LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash SourcePackage: libreoffice UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to natty on 2011-04-29 (89 days ago) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/df-libreoffice/+bug/817326/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 817326] Re: [Upstream] Previously-saved LibreOffice document lost by power outage (became 0 bytes long) - LibreOffice should call fsync
Marking triaged. @DonMick: please do not assign yourself to a bug's task unless you are actively working on fixing it. ** Changed in: libreoffice (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Triaged ** Changed in: libreoffice (Ubuntu) Assignee: DonMick (donmick) = (unassigned) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to libreoffice in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/817326 Title: [Upstream] Previously-saved LibreOffice document lost by power outage (became 0 bytes long) - LibreOffice should call fsync Status in LibreOffice Productivity Suite: Confirmed Status in “libreoffice” package in Ubuntu: Triaged Bug description: I was working on a document in LibreOffice today while my battery was low and so I was frequently saving, which I thought would help me if I lost power. However, when I eventually did lose power and later rebooted, the document had become 0 bytes long. LibreOffice was not able to restore the auto-saved copy either. As a result, I have lost a whole week of notes for one of my courses. After researching online, it seems that this is caused by the application not calling fsync() (or fdatasync()) when saving files. Due to delayed allocation in modern filesystems, there is no guarantee that the new file's data has actually been written to disk unless the application calls fsync. So if an app writes a new file and replaces the old one with it without fsync'ing the new one first then there is a window of opportunity during which a power failure will result in the loss of BOTH versions of the file. In ext4 this window is also much larger than in ext3. Theodore Tso blogged about this at http://ldn.linuxfoundation.org /blog-entry/delayed-allocation-and-zero-length-file-problem and http://www.linuxfoundation.org/news- media/blogs/browse/2009/03/don%E2%80%99t-fear-fsync. He strongly recommends to call fsync in this situation. Please update LibreOffice to fsync() saved files so that other users do not lose their data like I did. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 11.04 Package: libreoffice-core 1:3.3.2-1ubuntu5 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.38-8.42-generic 2.6.38.2 Uname: Linux 2.6.38-8-generic x86_64 Architecture: amd64 Date: Wed Jul 27 21:37:02 2011 InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS Lucid Lynx - Release amd64 (20100429) ProcEnviron: LANGUAGE=en_US:en LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash SourcePackage: libreoffice UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to natty on 2011-04-29 (89 days ago) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/df-libreoffice/+bug/817326/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 817326] Re: [Upstream] Previously-saved LibreOffice document lost by power outage (became 0 bytes long) - LibreOffice should call fsync
Were you using the latest LibreOffice version? The info says you were using LO 3.3.2. Package: libreoffice-core 1:3.3.2-1ubuntu5 The latest Final release is 3.4.5 (libreoffice.org) The latest in LP is 3.5.1. I would recommend using 3.4.5 to avoid errors related to LO not calling functions -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to libreoffice in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/817326 Title: [Upstream] Previously-saved LibreOffice document lost by power outage (became 0 bytes long) - LibreOffice should call fsync Status in LibreOffice Productivity Suite: Confirmed Status in “libreoffice” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: I was working on a document in LibreOffice today while my battery was low and so I was frequently saving, which I thought would help me if I lost power. However, when I eventually did lose power and later rebooted, the document had become 0 bytes long. LibreOffice was not able to restore the auto-saved copy either. As a result, I have lost a whole week of notes for one of my courses. After researching online, it seems that this is caused by the application not calling fsync() (or fdatasync()) when saving files. Due to delayed allocation in modern filesystems, there is no guarantee that the new file's data has actually been written to disk unless the application calls fsync. So if an app writes a new file and replaces the old one with it without fsync'ing the new one first then there is a window of opportunity during which a power failure will result in the loss of BOTH versions of the file. In ext4 this window is also much larger than in ext3. Theodore Tso blogged about this at http://ldn.linuxfoundation.org /blog-entry/delayed-allocation-and-zero-length-file-problem and http://www.linuxfoundation.org/news- media/blogs/browse/2009/03/don%E2%80%99t-fear-fsync. He strongly recommends to call fsync in this situation. Please update LibreOffice to fsync() saved files so that other users do not lose their data like I did. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 11.04 Package: libreoffice-core 1:3.3.2-1ubuntu5 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.38-8.42-generic 2.6.38.2 Uname: Linux 2.6.38-8-generic x86_64 Architecture: amd64 Date: Wed Jul 27 21:37:02 2011 InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS Lucid Lynx - Release amd64 (20100429) ProcEnviron: LANGUAGE=en_US:en LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash SourcePackage: libreoffice UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to natty on 2011-04-29 (89 days ago) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/df-libreoffice/+bug/817326/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 817326] Re: [Upstream] Previously-saved LibreOffice document lost by power outage (became 0 bytes long) - LibreOffice should call fsync
@Evan See comment #26--I tested 3.5.0 Beta 2 too and it still repros. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to libreoffice in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/817326 Title: [Upstream] Previously-saved LibreOffice document lost by power outage (became 0 bytes long) - LibreOffice should call fsync Status in LibreOffice Productivity Suite: Confirmed Status in “libreoffice” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: I was working on a document in LibreOffice today while my battery was low and so I was frequently saving, which I thought would help me if I lost power. However, when I eventually did lose power and later rebooted, the document had become 0 bytes long. LibreOffice was not able to restore the auto-saved copy either. As a result, I have lost a whole week of notes for one of my courses. After researching online, it seems that this is caused by the application not calling fsync() (or fdatasync()) when saving files. Due to delayed allocation in modern filesystems, there is no guarantee that the new file's data has actually been written to disk unless the application calls fsync. So if an app writes a new file and replaces the old one with it without fsync'ing the new one first then there is a window of opportunity during which a power failure will result in the loss of BOTH versions of the file. In ext4 this window is also much larger than in ext3. Theodore Tso blogged about this at http://ldn.linuxfoundation.org /blog-entry/delayed-allocation-and-zero-length-file-problem and http://www.linuxfoundation.org/news- media/blogs/browse/2009/03/don%E2%80%99t-fear-fsync. He strongly recommends to call fsync in this situation. Please update LibreOffice to fsync() saved files so that other users do not lose their data like I did. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 11.04 Package: libreoffice-core 1:3.3.2-1ubuntu5 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.38-8.42-generic 2.6.38.2 Uname: Linux 2.6.38-8-generic x86_64 Architecture: amd64 Date: Wed Jul 27 21:37:02 2011 InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS Lucid Lynx - Release amd64 (20100429) ProcEnviron: LANGUAGE=en_US:en LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash SourcePackage: libreoffice UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to natty on 2011-04-29 (89 days ago) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/df-libreoffice/+bug/817326/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 817326] Re: [Upstream] Previously-saved LibreOffice document lost by power outage (became 0 bytes long) - LibreOffice should call fsync
@Tristan Oh. What about 3.4.5? (That is the latest final release on their website) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to libreoffice in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/817326 Title: [Upstream] Previously-saved LibreOffice document lost by power outage (became 0 bytes long) - LibreOffice should call fsync Status in LibreOffice Productivity Suite: Confirmed Status in “libreoffice” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: I was working on a document in LibreOffice today while my battery was low and so I was frequently saving, which I thought would help me if I lost power. However, when I eventually did lose power and later rebooted, the document had become 0 bytes long. LibreOffice was not able to restore the auto-saved copy either. As a result, I have lost a whole week of notes for one of my courses. After researching online, it seems that this is caused by the application not calling fsync() (or fdatasync()) when saving files. Due to delayed allocation in modern filesystems, there is no guarantee that the new file's data has actually been written to disk unless the application calls fsync. So if an app writes a new file and replaces the old one with it without fsync'ing the new one first then there is a window of opportunity during which a power failure will result in the loss of BOTH versions of the file. In ext4 this window is also much larger than in ext3. Theodore Tso blogged about this at http://ldn.linuxfoundation.org /blog-entry/delayed-allocation-and-zero-length-file-problem and http://www.linuxfoundation.org/news- media/blogs/browse/2009/03/don%E2%80%99t-fear-fsync. He strongly recommends to call fsync in this situation. Please update LibreOffice to fsync() saved files so that other users do not lose their data like I did. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 11.04 Package: libreoffice-core 1:3.3.2-1ubuntu5 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.38-8.42-generic 2.6.38.2 Uname: Linux 2.6.38-8-generic x86_64 Architecture: amd64 Date: Wed Jul 27 21:37:02 2011 InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS Lucid Lynx - Release amd64 (20100429) ProcEnviron: LANGUAGE=en_US:en LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash SourcePackage: libreoffice UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to natty on 2011-04-29 (89 days ago) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/df-libreoffice/+bug/817326/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 817326] Re: [Upstream] Previously-saved LibreOffice document lost by power outage (became 0 bytes long) - LibreOffice should call fsync
** Changed in: libreoffice (Ubuntu) Assignee: (unassigned) = DonMick (donmick) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to libreoffice in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/817326 Title: [Upstream] Previously-saved LibreOffice document lost by power outage (became 0 bytes long) - LibreOffice should call fsync Status in LibreOffice Productivity Suite: Confirmed Status in “libreoffice” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: I was working on a document in LibreOffice today while my battery was low and so I was frequently saving, which I thought would help me if I lost power. However, when I eventually did lose power and later rebooted, the document had become 0 bytes long. LibreOffice was not able to restore the auto-saved copy either. As a result, I have lost a whole week of notes for one of my courses. After researching online, it seems that this is caused by the application not calling fsync() (or fdatasync()) when saving files. Due to delayed allocation in modern filesystems, there is no guarantee that the new file's data has actually been written to disk unless the application calls fsync. So if an app writes a new file and replaces the old one with it without fsync'ing the new one first then there is a window of opportunity during which a power failure will result in the loss of BOTH versions of the file. In ext4 this window is also much larger than in ext3. Theodore Tso blogged about this at http://ldn.linuxfoundation.org /blog-entry/delayed-allocation-and-zero-length-file-problem and http://www.linuxfoundation.org/news- media/blogs/browse/2009/03/don%E2%80%99t-fear-fsync. He strongly recommends to call fsync in this situation. Please update LibreOffice to fsync() saved files so that other users do not lose their data like I did. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 11.04 Package: libreoffice-core 1:3.3.2-1ubuntu5 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.38-8.42-generic 2.6.38.2 Uname: Linux 2.6.38-8-generic x86_64 Architecture: amd64 Date: Wed Jul 27 21:37:02 2011 InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS Lucid Lynx - Release amd64 (20100429) ProcEnviron: LANGUAGE=en_US:en LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash SourcePackage: libreoffice UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to natty on 2011-04-29 (89 days ago) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/df-libreoffice/+bug/817326/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 817326] Re: [Upstream] Previously-saved LibreOffice document lost by power outage (became 0 bytes long) - LibreOffice should call fsync
** Changed in: df-libreoffice Status: Incomplete = Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to libreoffice in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/817326 Title: [Upstream] Previously-saved LibreOffice document lost by power outage (became 0 bytes long) - LibreOffice should call fsync Status in LibreOffice Productivity Suite: Confirmed Status in “libreoffice” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: I was working on a document in LibreOffice today while my battery was low and so I was frequently saving, which I thought would help me if I lost power. However, when I eventually did lose power and later rebooted, the document had become 0 bytes long. LibreOffice was not able to restore the auto-saved copy either. As a result, I have lost a whole week of notes for one of my courses. After researching online, it seems that this is caused by the application not calling fsync() (or fdatasync()) when saving files. Due to delayed allocation in modern filesystems, there is no guarantee that the new file's data has actually been written to disk unless the application calls fsync. So if an app writes a new file and replaces the old one with it without fsync'ing the new one first then there is a window of opportunity during which a power failure will result in the loss of BOTH versions of the file. In ext4 this window is also much larger than in ext3. Theodore Tso blogged about this at http://ldn.linuxfoundation.org /blog-entry/delayed-allocation-and-zero-length-file-problem and http://www.linuxfoundation.org/news- media/blogs/browse/2009/03/don%E2%80%99t-fear-fsync. He strongly recommends to call fsync in this situation. Please update LibreOffice to fsync() saved files so that other users do not lose their data like I did. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 11.04 Package: libreoffice-core 1:3.3.2-1ubuntu5 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.38-8.42-generic 2.6.38.2 Uname: Linux 2.6.38-8-generic x86_64 Architecture: amd64 Date: Wed Jul 27 21:37:02 2011 InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS Lucid Lynx - Release amd64 (20100429) ProcEnviron: LANGUAGE=en_US:en LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash SourcePackage: libreoffice UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to natty on 2011-04-29 (89 days ago) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/df-libreoffice/+bug/817326/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 817326] Re: [Upstream] Previously-saved LibreOffice document lost by power outage (became 0 bytes long) - LibreOffice should call fsync
** Changed in: df-libreoffice Importance: Critical = Wishlist -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to libreoffice in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/817326 Title: [Upstream] Previously-saved LibreOffice document lost by power outage (became 0 bytes long) - LibreOffice should call fsync Status in LibreOffice Productivity Suite: Incomplete Status in “libreoffice” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: I was working on a document in LibreOffice today while my battery was low and so I was frequently saving, which I thought would help me if I lost power. However, when I eventually did lose power and later rebooted, the document had become 0 bytes long. LibreOffice was not able to restore the auto-saved copy either. As a result, I have lost a whole week of notes for one of my courses. After researching online, it seems that this is caused by the application not calling fsync() (or fdatasync()) when saving files. Due to delayed allocation in modern filesystems, there is no guarantee that the new file's data has actually been written to disk unless the application calls fsync. So if an app writes a new file and replaces the old one with it without fsync'ing the new one first then there is a window of opportunity during which a power failure will result in the loss of BOTH versions of the file. In ext4 this window is also much larger than in ext3. Theodore Tso blogged about this at http://ldn.linuxfoundation.org /blog-entry/delayed-allocation-and-zero-length-file-problem and http://www.linuxfoundation.org/news- media/blogs/browse/2009/03/don%E2%80%99t-fear-fsync. He strongly recommends to call fsync in this situation. Please update LibreOffice to fsync() saved files so that other users do not lose their data like I did. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 11.04 Package: libreoffice-core 1:3.3.2-1ubuntu5 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.38-8.42-generic 2.6.38.2 Uname: Linux 2.6.38-8-generic x86_64 Architecture: amd64 Date: Wed Jul 27 21:37:02 2011 InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS Lucid Lynx - Release amd64 (20100429) ProcEnviron: LANGUAGE=en_US:en LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash SourcePackage: libreoffice UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to natty on 2011-04-29 (89 days ago) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/df-libreoffice/+bug/817326/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 817326] Re: [Upstream] Previously-saved LibreOffice document lost by power outage (became 0 bytes long) - LibreOffice should call fsync
I just lost a document I have been working on for weeks, due to the Ubuntu overheating-problem, which caused a power-failure, and then due to this bug in LibreOffice, which cost me weeks of work. I am depending on Libreoffice due to the special features I require, which make it easier to write in a rare language, and would otherwise be difficult to accomplish. I hope this will have a solution soon, as I cannot risk loosing any more work. There is only version 3.4.4 available in the repositories. No fixes with updates? I appreciate your help! -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to libreoffice in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/817326 Title: [Upstream] Previously-saved LibreOffice document lost by power outage (became 0 bytes long) - LibreOffice should call fsync Status in LibreOffice Productivity Suite: Incomplete Status in “libreoffice” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: I was working on a document in LibreOffice today while my battery was low and so I was frequently saving, which I thought would help me if I lost power. However, when I eventually did lose power and later rebooted, the document had become 0 bytes long. LibreOffice was not able to restore the auto-saved copy either. As a result, I have lost a whole week of notes for one of my courses. After researching online, it seems that this is caused by the application not calling fsync() (or fdatasync()) when saving files. Due to delayed allocation in modern filesystems, there is no guarantee that the new file's data has actually been written to disk unless the application calls fsync. So if an app writes a new file and replaces the old one with it without fsync'ing the new one first then there is a window of opportunity during which a power failure will result in the loss of BOTH versions of the file. In ext4 this window is also much larger than in ext3. Theodore Tso blogged about this at http://ldn.linuxfoundation.org /blog-entry/delayed-allocation-and-zero-length-file-problem and http://www.linuxfoundation.org/news- media/blogs/browse/2009/03/don%E2%80%99t-fear-fsync. He strongly recommends to call fsync in this situation. Please update LibreOffice to fsync() saved files so that other users do not lose their data like I did. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 11.04 Package: libreoffice-core 1:3.3.2-1ubuntu5 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.38-8.42-generic 2.6.38.2 Uname: Linux 2.6.38-8-generic x86_64 Architecture: amd64 Date: Wed Jul 27 21:37:02 2011 InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS Lucid Lynx - Release amd64 (20100429) ProcEnviron: LANGUAGE=en_US:en LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash SourcePackage: libreoffice UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to natty on 2011-04-29 (89 days ago) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/df-libreoffice/+bug/817326/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 817326] Re: [Upstream] Previously-saved LibreOffice document lost by power outage (became 0 bytes long) - LibreOffice should call fsync
** Changed in: df-libreoffice Status: Confirmed = Incomplete -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to libreoffice in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/817326 Title: [Upstream] Previously-saved LibreOffice document lost by power outage (became 0 bytes long) - LibreOffice should call fsync Status in LibreOffice Productivity Suite: Incomplete Status in “libreoffice” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: I was working on a document in LibreOffice today while my battery was low and so I was frequently saving, which I thought would help me if I lost power. However, when I eventually did lose power and later rebooted, the document had become 0 bytes long. LibreOffice was not able to restore the auto-saved copy either. As a result, I have lost a whole week of notes for one of my courses. After researching online, it seems that this is caused by the application not calling fsync() (or fdatasync()) when saving files. Due to delayed allocation in modern filesystems, there is no guarantee that the new file's data has actually been written to disk unless the application calls fsync. So if an app writes a new file and replaces the old one with it without fsync'ing the new one first then there is a window of opportunity during which a power failure will result in the loss of BOTH versions of the file. In ext4 this window is also much larger than in ext3. Theodore Tso blogged about this at http://ldn.linuxfoundation.org /blog-entry/delayed-allocation-and-zero-length-file-problem and http://www.linuxfoundation.org/news- media/blogs/browse/2009/03/don%E2%80%99t-fear-fsync. He strongly recommends to call fsync in this situation. Please update LibreOffice to fsync() saved files so that other users do not lose their data like I did. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 11.04 Package: libreoffice-core 1:3.3.2-1ubuntu5 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.38-8.42-generic 2.6.38.2 Uname: Linux 2.6.38-8-generic x86_64 Architecture: amd64 Date: Wed Jul 27 21:37:02 2011 InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS Lucid Lynx - Release amd64 (20100429) ProcEnviron: LANGUAGE=en_US:en LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash SourcePackage: libreoffice UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to natty on 2011-04-29 (89 days ago) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/df-libreoffice/+bug/817326/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 817326] Re: [Upstream] Previously-saved LibreOffice document lost by power outage (became 0 bytes long) - LibreOffice should call fsync
** Changed in: df-libreoffice Importance: Medium = Critical -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to libreoffice in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/817326 Title: [Upstream] Previously-saved LibreOffice document lost by power outage (became 0 bytes long) - LibreOffice should call fsync Status in LibreOffice Productivity Suite: Confirmed Status in “libreoffice” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: I was working on a document in LibreOffice today while my battery was low and so I was frequently saving, which I thought would help me if I lost power. However, when I eventually did lose power and later rebooted, the document had become 0 bytes long. LibreOffice was not able to restore the auto-saved copy either. As a result, I have lost a whole week of notes for one of my courses. After researching online, it seems that this is caused by the application not calling fsync() (or fdatasync()) when saving files. Due to delayed allocation in modern filesystems, there is no guarantee that the new file's data has actually been written to disk unless the application calls fsync. So if an app writes a new file and replaces the old one with it without fsync'ing the new one first then there is a window of opportunity during which a power failure will result in the loss of BOTH versions of the file. In ext4 this window is also much larger than in ext3. Theodore Tso blogged about this at http://ldn.linuxfoundation.org /blog-entry/delayed-allocation-and-zero-length-file-problem and http://www.linuxfoundation.org/news- media/blogs/browse/2009/03/don%E2%80%99t-fear-fsync. He strongly recommends to call fsync in this situation. Please update LibreOffice to fsync() saved files so that other users do not lose their data like I did. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 11.04 Package: libreoffice-core 1:3.3.2-1ubuntu5 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.38-8.42-generic 2.6.38.2 Uname: Linux 2.6.38-8-generic x86_64 Architecture: amd64 Date: Wed Jul 27 21:37:02 2011 InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS Lucid Lynx - Release amd64 (20100429) ProcEnviron: LANGUAGE=en_US:en LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash SourcePackage: libreoffice UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to natty on 2011-04-29 (89 days ago) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/df-libreoffice/+bug/817326/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 817326] Re: [Upstream] Previously-saved LibreOffice document lost by power outage (became 0 bytes long) - LibreOffice should call fsync
** Changed in: libreoffice (Ubuntu) Importance: High = Critical -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to libreoffice in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/817326 Title: [Upstream] Previously-saved LibreOffice document lost by power outage (became 0 bytes long) - LibreOffice should call fsync Status in LibreOffice Productivity Suite: Confirmed Status in “libreoffice” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: I was working on a document in LibreOffice today while my battery was low and so I was frequently saving, which I thought would help me if I lost power. However, when I eventually did lose power and later rebooted, the document had become 0 bytes long. LibreOffice was not able to restore the auto-saved copy either. As a result, I have lost a whole week of notes for one of my courses. After researching online, it seems that this is caused by the application not calling fsync() (or fdatasync()) when saving files. Due to delayed allocation in modern filesystems, there is no guarantee that the new file's data has actually been written to disk unless the application calls fsync. So if an app writes a new file and replaces the old one with it without fsync'ing the new one first then there is a window of opportunity during which a power failure will result in the loss of BOTH versions of the file. In ext4 this window is also much larger than in ext3. Theodore Tso blogged about this at http://ldn.linuxfoundation.org /blog-entry/delayed-allocation-and-zero-length-file-problem and http://www.linuxfoundation.org/news- media/blogs/browse/2009/03/don%E2%80%99t-fear-fsync. He strongly recommends to call fsync in this situation. Please update LibreOffice to fsync() saved files so that other users do not lose their data like I did. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 11.04 Package: libreoffice-core 1:3.3.2-1ubuntu5 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.38-8.42-generic 2.6.38.2 Uname: Linux 2.6.38-8-generic x86_64 Architecture: amd64 Date: Wed Jul 27 21:37:02 2011 InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS Lucid Lynx - Release amd64 (20100429) ProcEnviron: LANGUAGE=en_US:en LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash SourcePackage: libreoffice UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to natty on 2011-04-29 (89 days ago) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/df-libreoffice/+bug/817326/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 817326] Re: [Upstream] Previously-saved LibreOffice document lost by power outage (became 0 bytes long) - LibreOffice should call fsync
Launchpad has imported 5 comments from the remote bug at https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40607. If you reply to an imported comment from within Launchpad, your comment will be sent to the remote bug automatically. Read more about Launchpad's inter-bugtracker facilities at https://help.launchpad.net/InterBugTracking. On 2011-09-03T18:13:44+00:00 Tristan Schmelcher wrote: I am using LibreOffice 3.3.3 on Ubuntu 11.04 amd64 (distro-provided packages). Recently I was working on a document in LibreOffice while my battery was low and so I was frequently saving, which I thought would help me if I lost power. However, when I eventually did lose power and later rebooted, the document had become 0 bytes long. LibreOffice was not able to restore the auto-saved copy either. As a result, I have lost a whole week of notes for one of my courses. After researching online, it seems that this is caused by the application not calling fsync() (or fdatasync()) when saving files. Due to delayed allocation in modern filesystems, there is no guarantee that the new file's data has actually been written to disk unless the application calls fsync. So if an app writes a new file and replaces the old one with it without fsync'ing the new one first then there is a window of opportunity during which a power failure will result in the loss of BOTH versions of the file. In ext4 this window is also much larger than in ext3. Theodore Tso blogged about this at http://ldn.linuxfoundation.org/blog- entry/delayed-allocation-and-zero-length-file-problem and http://www.linuxfoundation.org/news-media/blogs/browse/2009/03/don%E2%80 %99t-fear-fsync. He strongly recommends to call fsync in this situation. Please update LibreOffice to fsync() saved files so that other users do not lose their data like I did. Forwarding upstream from Ubuntu bug at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/817326 You can see evidence of more users encountering this at: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11215058 http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6t=39666 Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/df- libreoffice/+bug/817326/comments/4 On 2011-09-08T10:15:54+00:00 Davian818 wrote: Since when filesystem issues are application concern? Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/df- libreoffice/+bug/817326/comments/5 On 2011-09-08T15:47:54+00:00 Tristan Schmelcher wrote: This is not a filesystem issue, the filesystem is behaving correctly. In order to persist data to disk (on _any_ filesystem), the application must call fsync(). This is part of the POSIX spec. By not calling fsync(), LibreOffice is basically _telling_ the filesystem that it is not important to retain this file in the event of a power outage. Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/df- libreoffice/+bug/817326/comments/6 On 2011-09-23T09:42:37+00:00 Tristan Schmelcher wrote: Here's a decent example of how to fsync() from Java: http://android- developers.blogspot.com/2010/12/saving-data-safely.html. Note that if using buffered I/O then you also need to flush the data before the sync(). Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/df- libreoffice/+bug/817326/comments/9 On 2011-10-27T11:32:32+00:00 John-iglar wrote: I'm adding a me too here. Our school is using Ubuntu and LibreOffice and we have had many students lose work due to this bug. Repeat Tristan's comment - not a filesystem issue, but application. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/317781/comments/45 Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/df- libreoffice/+bug/817326/comments/10 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to libreoffice in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/817326 Title: [Upstream] Previously-saved LibreOffice document lost by power outage (became 0 bytes long) - LibreOffice should call fsync Status in LibreOffice Productivity Suite: Confirmed Status in “libreoffice” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: I was working on a document in LibreOffice today while my battery was low and so I was frequently saving, which I thought would help me if I lost power. However, when I eventually did lose power and later rebooted, the document had become 0 bytes long. LibreOffice was not able to restore the auto-saved copy either. As a result, I have lost a whole week of notes for one of my courses. After researching online, it seems that this is caused by the application not calling fsync() (or fdatasync()) when saving files. Due to delayed allocation in modern filesystems, there is no guarantee that the new
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 817326] Re: [Upstream] Previously-saved LibreOffice document lost by power outage (became 0 bytes long) - LibreOffice should call fsync
As a stopgap measure, I suggest not relying on the auto-save and using save as and changing the filename everytime, for example appending v1, v2, etc. I'm guessing if the last used file is scrapped by an outage or suspend, the previous one won't. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to libreoffice in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/817326 Title: [Upstream] Previously-saved LibreOffice document lost by power outage (became 0 bytes long) - LibreOffice should call fsync Status in LibreOffice Productivity Suite: Confirmed Status in “libreoffice” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: I was working on a document in LibreOffice today while my battery was low and so I was frequently saving, which I thought would help me if I lost power. However, when I eventually did lose power and later rebooted, the document had become 0 bytes long. LibreOffice was not able to restore the auto-saved copy either. As a result, I have lost a whole week of notes for one of my courses. After researching online, it seems that this is caused by the application not calling fsync() (or fdatasync()) when saving files. Due to delayed allocation in modern filesystems, there is no guarantee that the new file's data has actually been written to disk unless the application calls fsync. So if an app writes a new file and replaces the old one with it without fsync'ing the new one first then there is a window of opportunity during which a power failure will result in the loss of BOTH versions of the file. In ext4 this window is also much larger than in ext3. Theodore Tso blogged about this at http://ldn.linuxfoundation.org /blog-entry/delayed-allocation-and-zero-length-file-problem and http://www.linuxfoundation.org/news- media/blogs/browse/2009/03/don%E2%80%99t-fear-fsync. He strongly recommends to call fsync in this situation. Please update LibreOffice to fsync() saved files so that other users do not lose their data like I did. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 11.04 Package: libreoffice-core 1:3.3.2-1ubuntu5 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.38-8.42-generic 2.6.38.2 Uname: Linux 2.6.38-8-generic x86_64 Architecture: amd64 Date: Wed Jul 27 21:37:02 2011 InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS Lucid Lynx - Release amd64 (20100429) ProcEnviron: LANGUAGE=en_US:en LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash SourcePackage: libreoffice UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to natty on 2011-04-29 (89 days ago) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/df-libreoffice/+bug/817326/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 817326] Re: [Upstream] Previously-saved LibreOffice document lost by power outage (became 0 bytes long) - LibreOffice should call fsync
I just lost a document I'd been working on for days. I saved it, closed LibreOffice, then suspended my system. This morning I woke up my system and the file was gone. Just like that. NOT happy. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to libreoffice in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/817326 Title: [Upstream] Previously-saved LibreOffice document lost by power outage (became 0 bytes long) - LibreOffice should call fsync Status in LibreOffice Productivity Suite: Confirmed Status in “libreoffice” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: I was working on a document in LibreOffice today while my battery was low and so I was frequently saving, which I thought would help me if I lost power. However, when I eventually did lose power and later rebooted, the document had become 0 bytes long. LibreOffice was not able to restore the auto-saved copy either. As a result, I have lost a whole week of notes for one of my courses. After researching online, it seems that this is caused by the application not calling fsync() (or fdatasync()) when saving files. Due to delayed allocation in modern filesystems, there is no guarantee that the new file's data has actually been written to disk unless the application calls fsync. So if an app writes a new file and replaces the old one with it without fsync'ing the new one first then there is a window of opportunity during which a power failure will result in the loss of BOTH versions of the file. In ext4 this window is also much larger than in ext3. Theodore Tso blogged about this at http://ldn.linuxfoundation.org /blog-entry/delayed-allocation-and-zero-length-file-problem and http://www.linuxfoundation.org/news- media/blogs/browse/2009/03/don%E2%80%99t-fear-fsync. He strongly recommends to call fsync in this situation. Please update LibreOffice to fsync() saved files so that other users do not lose their data like I did. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 11.04 Package: libreoffice-core 1:3.3.2-1ubuntu5 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.38-8.42-generic 2.6.38.2 Uname: Linux 2.6.38-8-generic x86_64 Architecture: amd64 Date: Wed Jul 27 21:37:02 2011 InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS Lucid Lynx - Release amd64 (20100429) ProcEnviron: LANGUAGE=en_US:en LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash SourcePackage: libreoffice UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to natty on 2011-04-29 (89 days ago) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/df-libreoffice/+bug/817326/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 817326] Re: [Upstream] Previously-saved LibreOffice document lost by power outage (became 0 bytes long) - LibreOffice should call fsync
Thanks (to myself) for hourly backups, although I spent most of another hour finding out what happened. Upstream is still marked NEW so I doubt this is getting the proper attention. ** Changed in: libreoffice (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = High -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to libreoffice in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/817326 Title: [Upstream] Previously-saved LibreOffice document lost by power outage (became 0 bytes long) - LibreOffice should call fsync Status in LibreOffice Productivity Suite: Confirmed Status in “libreoffice” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: I was working on a document in LibreOffice today while my battery was low and so I was frequently saving, which I thought would help me if I lost power. However, when I eventually did lose power and later rebooted, the document had become 0 bytes long. LibreOffice was not able to restore the auto-saved copy either. As a result, I have lost a whole week of notes for one of my courses. After researching online, it seems that this is caused by the application not calling fsync() (or fdatasync()) when saving files. Due to delayed allocation in modern filesystems, there is no guarantee that the new file's data has actually been written to disk unless the application calls fsync. So if an app writes a new file and replaces the old one with it without fsync'ing the new one first then there is a window of opportunity during which a power failure will result in the loss of BOTH versions of the file. In ext4 this window is also much larger than in ext3. Theodore Tso blogged about this at http://ldn.linuxfoundation.org /blog-entry/delayed-allocation-and-zero-length-file-problem and http://www.linuxfoundation.org/news- media/blogs/browse/2009/03/don%E2%80%99t-fear-fsync. He strongly recommends to call fsync in this situation. Please update LibreOffice to fsync() saved files so that other users do not lose their data like I did. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 11.04 Package: libreoffice-core 1:3.3.2-1ubuntu5 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.38-8.42-generic 2.6.38.2 Uname: Linux 2.6.38-8-generic x86_64 Architecture: amd64 Date: Wed Jul 27 21:37:02 2011 InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS Lucid Lynx - Release amd64 (20100429) ProcEnviron: LANGUAGE=en_US:en LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash SourcePackage: libreoffice UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to natty on 2011-04-29 (89 days ago) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/df-libreoffice/+bug/817326/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 817326] Re: [Upstream] Previously-saved LibreOffice document lost by power outage (became 0 bytes long) - LibreOffice should call fsync
I have lost the minutes of an important one-day business meeting due to this bug. Without this bug fixed I simply cannot afford to rely on libreoffice (in fact I wonder if anyone knowing this bug takes the risk to use libreoffice). I fully agree with the previous comments that this is a highly critical bug and that this problem should be fixed as soon as possible. I really do not understand why such a critical bug is still not fixed after 4(!) months. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to libreoffice in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/817326 Title: [Upstream] Previously-saved LibreOffice document lost by power outage (became 0 bytes long) - LibreOffice should call fsync Status in LibreOffice Productivity Suite: Confirmed Status in “libreoffice” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: I was working on a document in LibreOffice today while my battery was low and so I was frequently saving, which I thought would help me if I lost power. However, when I eventually did lose power and later rebooted, the document had become 0 bytes long. LibreOffice was not able to restore the auto-saved copy either. As a result, I have lost a whole week of notes for one of my courses. After researching online, it seems that this is caused by the application not calling fsync() (or fdatasync()) when saving files. Due to delayed allocation in modern filesystems, there is no guarantee that the new file's data has actually been written to disk unless the application calls fsync. So if an app writes a new file and replaces the old one with it without fsync'ing the new one first then there is a window of opportunity during which a power failure will result in the loss of BOTH versions of the file. In ext4 this window is also much larger than in ext3. Theodore Tso blogged about this at http://ldn.linuxfoundation.org /blog-entry/delayed-allocation-and-zero-length-file-problem and http://www.linuxfoundation.org/news- media/blogs/browse/2009/03/don%E2%80%99t-fear-fsync. He strongly recommends to call fsync in this situation. Please update LibreOffice to fsync() saved files so that other users do not lose their data like I did. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 11.04 Package: libreoffice-core 1:3.3.2-1ubuntu5 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.38-8.42-generic 2.6.38.2 Uname: Linux 2.6.38-8-generic x86_64 Architecture: amd64 Date: Wed Jul 27 21:37:02 2011 InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS Lucid Lynx - Release amd64 (20100429) ProcEnviron: LANGUAGE=en_US:en LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash SourcePackage: libreoffice UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to natty on 2011-04-29 (89 days ago) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/df-libreoffice/+bug/817326/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 817326] Re: [Upstream] Previously-saved LibreOffice document lost by power outage (became 0 bytes long) - LibreOffice should call fsync
Libreoffice is in the main section and the _default_ ubuntu office application. Not taking this bug seriously will give Ubuntu a very bad PR! This IMHO includes setting the importance to Critical ASAP. As a side note/question: What about the operating system level workaround mentioned in Bug #317781, has it been removed from the linux kernel? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to libreoffice in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/817326 Title: [Upstream] Previously-saved LibreOffice document lost by power outage (became 0 bytes long) - LibreOffice should call fsync Status in LibreOffice Productivity Suite: Confirmed Status in “libreoffice” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: I was working on a document in LibreOffice today while my battery was low and so I was frequently saving, which I thought would help me if I lost power. However, when I eventually did lose power and later rebooted, the document had become 0 bytes long. LibreOffice was not able to restore the auto-saved copy either. As a result, I have lost a whole week of notes for one of my courses. After researching online, it seems that this is caused by the application not calling fsync() (or fdatasync()) when saving files. Due to delayed allocation in modern filesystems, there is no guarantee that the new file's data has actually been written to disk unless the application calls fsync. So if an app writes a new file and replaces the old one with it without fsync'ing the new one first then there is a window of opportunity during which a power failure will result in the loss of BOTH versions of the file. In ext4 this window is also much larger than in ext3. Theodore Tso blogged about this at http://ldn.linuxfoundation.org /blog-entry/delayed-allocation-and-zero-length-file-problem and http://www.linuxfoundation.org/news- media/blogs/browse/2009/03/don%E2%80%99t-fear-fsync. He strongly recommends to call fsync in this situation. Please update LibreOffice to fsync() saved files so that other users do not lose their data like I did. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 11.04 Package: libreoffice-core 1:3.3.2-1ubuntu5 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.38-8.42-generic 2.6.38.2 Uname: Linux 2.6.38-8-generic x86_64 Architecture: amd64 Date: Wed Jul 27 21:37:02 2011 InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS Lucid Lynx - Release amd64 (20100429) ProcEnviron: LANGUAGE=en_US:en LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash SourcePackage: libreoffice UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to natty on 2011-04-29 (89 days ago) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/df-libreoffice/+bug/817326/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 817326] Re: [Upstream] Previously-saved LibreOffice document lost by power outage (became 0 bytes long) - LibreOffice should call fsync
Problem can be reproduced easily (tried on an Ubuntu 11.10): 1. Open LibreOffice 2. Create and save a document 3. Write busily and save regulary using Ctrl+S 4. Shut down the computer by removing the power cable I fully agree with the previous comments that this is a *highly* critical bug, because of the potentially serious (I would even say fatal) consequences. I am pretty sure that users rely on the assumption that saving means my data is safe. In my opinion, this should be reflected by setting the bug to Critical and fixing it as soon as possible. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to libreoffice in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/817326 Title: [Upstream] Previously-saved LibreOffice document lost by power outage (became 0 bytes long) - LibreOffice should call fsync Status in LibreOffice Productivity Suite: Confirmed Status in “libreoffice” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: I was working on a document in LibreOffice today while my battery was low and so I was frequently saving, which I thought would help me if I lost power. However, when I eventually did lose power and later rebooted, the document had become 0 bytes long. LibreOffice was not able to restore the auto-saved copy either. As a result, I have lost a whole week of notes for one of my courses. After researching online, it seems that this is caused by the application not calling fsync() (or fdatasync()) when saving files. Due to delayed allocation in modern filesystems, there is no guarantee that the new file's data has actually been written to disk unless the application calls fsync. So if an app writes a new file and replaces the old one with it without fsync'ing the new one first then there is a window of opportunity during which a power failure will result in the loss of BOTH versions of the file. In ext4 this window is also much larger than in ext3. Theodore Tso blogged about this at http://ldn.linuxfoundation.org /blog-entry/delayed-allocation-and-zero-length-file-problem and http://www.linuxfoundation.org/news- media/blogs/browse/2009/03/don%E2%80%99t-fear-fsync. He strongly recommends to call fsync in this situation. Please update LibreOffice to fsync() saved files so that other users do not lose their data like I did. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 11.04 Package: libreoffice-core 1:3.3.2-1ubuntu5 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.38-8.42-generic 2.6.38.2 Uname: Linux 2.6.38-8-generic x86_64 Architecture: amd64 Date: Wed Jul 27 21:37:02 2011 InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS Lucid Lynx - Release amd64 (20100429) ProcEnviron: LANGUAGE=en_US:en LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash SourcePackage: libreoffice UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to natty on 2011-04-29 (89 days ago) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/df-libreoffice/+bug/817326/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 817326] Re: [Upstream] Previously-saved LibreOffice document lost by power outage (became 0 bytes long) - LibreOffice should call fsync
@Eduard I suspect LibreOffice is saving the file in such a cavalier way that the kernel work-around is not even able to detect that it should be saved transactionally. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to libreoffice in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/817326 Title: [Upstream] Previously-saved LibreOffice document lost by power outage (became 0 bytes long) - LibreOffice should call fsync Status in LibreOffice Productivity Suite: Confirmed Status in “libreoffice” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: I was working on a document in LibreOffice today while my battery was low and so I was frequently saving, which I thought would help me if I lost power. However, when I eventually did lose power and later rebooted, the document had become 0 bytes long. LibreOffice was not able to restore the auto-saved copy either. As a result, I have lost a whole week of notes for one of my courses. After researching online, it seems that this is caused by the application not calling fsync() (or fdatasync()) when saving files. Due to delayed allocation in modern filesystems, there is no guarantee that the new file's data has actually been written to disk unless the application calls fsync. So if an app writes a new file and replaces the old one with it without fsync'ing the new one first then there is a window of opportunity during which a power failure will result in the loss of BOTH versions of the file. In ext4 this window is also much larger than in ext3. Theodore Tso blogged about this at http://ldn.linuxfoundation.org /blog-entry/delayed-allocation-and-zero-length-file-problem and http://www.linuxfoundation.org/news- media/blogs/browse/2009/03/don%E2%80%99t-fear-fsync. He strongly recommends to call fsync in this situation. Please update LibreOffice to fsync() saved files so that other users do not lose their data like I did. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 11.04 Package: libreoffice-core 1:3.3.2-1ubuntu5 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.38-8.42-generic 2.6.38.2 Uname: Linux 2.6.38-8-generic x86_64 Architecture: amd64 Date: Wed Jul 27 21:37:02 2011 InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS Lucid Lynx - Release amd64 (20100429) ProcEnviron: LANGUAGE=en_US:en LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash SourcePackage: libreoffice UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to natty on 2011-04-29 (89 days ago) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/df-libreoffice/+bug/817326/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 817326] Re: [Upstream] Previously-saved LibreOffice document lost by power outage (became 0 bytes long) - LibreOffice should call fsync
** Summary changed: - Previously-saved LibreOffice document lost by power outage (became 0 bytes long) - LibreOffice should call fsync + [Upstream] Previously-saved LibreOffice document lost by power outage (became 0 bytes long) - LibreOffice should call fsync -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to libreoffice in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/817326 Title: [Upstream] Previously-saved LibreOffice document lost by power outage (became 0 bytes long) - LibreOffice should call fsync Status in LibreOffice Productivity Suite: Confirmed Status in “libreoffice” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: I was working on a document in LibreOffice today while my battery was low and so I was frequently saving, which I thought would help me if I lost power. However, when I eventually did lose power and later rebooted, the document had become 0 bytes long. LibreOffice was not able to restore the auto-saved copy either. As a result, I have lost a whole week of notes for one of my courses. After researching online, it seems that this is caused by the application not calling fsync() (or fdatasync()) when saving files. Due to delayed allocation in modern filesystems, there is no guarantee that the new file's data has actually been written to disk unless the application calls fsync. So if an app writes a new file and replaces the old one with it without fsync'ing the new one first then there is a window of opportunity during which a power failure will result in the loss of BOTH versions of the file. In ext4 this window is also much larger than in ext3. Theodore Tso blogged about this at http://ldn.linuxfoundation.org /blog-entry/delayed-allocation-and-zero-length-file-problem and http://www.linuxfoundation.org/news- media/blogs/browse/2009/03/don%E2%80%99t-fear-fsync. He strongly recommends to call fsync in this situation. Please update LibreOffice to fsync() saved files so that other users do not lose their data like I did. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 11.04 Package: libreoffice-core 1:3.3.2-1ubuntu5 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.38-8.42-generic 2.6.38.2 Uname: Linux 2.6.38-8-generic x86_64 Architecture: amd64 Date: Wed Jul 27 21:37:02 2011 InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS Lucid Lynx - Release amd64 (20100429) ProcEnviron: LANGUAGE=en_US:en LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash SourcePackage: libreoffice UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to natty on 2011-04-29 (89 days ago) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/df-libreoffice/+bug/817326/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
