Re: Making Subversion folks APR committers?

2010-04-10 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 4/9/2010 9:21 PM, Hyrum K. Wright wrote:
 
 Speaking as one of the Subversion committers in question, I tend to
 agree with this sentiment.  It really doesn't make much sense to
 grandfather an entire group of people into the project: just because
 somebody knows and understands the Subversion community, doesn't mean
 the same holds true for APR.  (That being said, it makes sense to
 perhaps take their history with Subversion, as well as other Apache
 projects, into account when discussing commit access proposals.)

+1; APR was seeded by committership in httpd and/or svn back in the day,
so the projects already have a very strong affinity in terms of style,
quality and expectations of committers.



Re: Making Subversion folks APR committers?

2010-04-09 Thread Hyrum K. Wright
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 4:43 PM, Sander Temme san...@temme.net wrote:


 On Apr 8, 2010, at 5:15 AM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote:

  On 4/7/2010 8:56 PM, Bojan Smojver wrote:
  On Thu, 2010-04-08 at 00:37 +0100, Nick Kew wrote:
  Who do you have in mind, or are you suggesting a blanket commit?
 
  For instance, Hyrum K. Wright submitted a patch for apr_hash and asked
  about it a few times. My understanding is that he's a Subversion
  committer. Instead of him waiting for some of us to do it, we can just
  make him a committer here. When other Subversion folks submit patches,
  we can then do the same. It would help APR move along quicker, I
  guess...
 
  We can, and actually Hyrum would be a fine choice.  But as an en masse
  thing?  Even Subversion graduates their committers into different levels
  of trust, just as httpd does.  I think we can ask for and expect some
  quality patches before adding them to the apr ldap commit group.

 If it were up to me, I'd favor giving commit on the basis of merit and
 demonstrated involvement, just like anyone else.


Speaking as one of the Subversion committers in question, I tend to agree
with this sentiment.  It really doesn't make much sense to grandfather an
entire group of people into the project: just because somebody knows and
understands the Subversion community, doesn't mean the same holds true for
APR.  (That being said, it makes sense to perhaps take their history with
Subversion, as well as other Apache projects, into account when discussing
commit access proposals.)

-Hyrum


Re: Making Subversion folks APR committers?

2010-04-08 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 4/7/2010 8:56 PM, Bojan Smojver wrote:
 On Thu, 2010-04-08 at 00:37 +0100, Nick Kew wrote:
 Who do you have in mind, or are you suggesting a blanket commit?
 
 For instance, Hyrum K. Wright submitted a patch for apr_hash and asked
 about it a few times. My understanding is that he's a Subversion
 committer. Instead of him waiting for some of us to do it, we can just
 make him a committer here. When other Subversion folks submit patches,
 we can then do the same. It would help APR move along quicker, I
 guess...

We can, and actually Hyrum would be a fine choice.  But as an en masse
thing?  Even Subversion graduates their committers into different levels
of trust, just as httpd does.  I think we can ask for and expect some
quality patches before adding them to the apr ldap commit group.


Re: Making Subversion folks APR committers?

2010-04-08 Thread Sander Temme

On Apr 8, 2010, at 5:15 AM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote:

 On 4/7/2010 8:56 PM, Bojan Smojver wrote:
 On Thu, 2010-04-08 at 00:37 +0100, Nick Kew wrote:
 Who do you have in mind, or are you suggesting a blanket commit?
 
 For instance, Hyrum K. Wright submitted a patch for apr_hash and asked
 about it a few times. My understanding is that he's a Subversion
 committer. Instead of him waiting for some of us to do it, we can just
 make him a committer here. When other Subversion folks submit patches,
 we can then do the same. It would help APR move along quicker, I
 guess...
 
 We can, and actually Hyrum would be a fine choice.  But as an en masse
 thing?  Even Subversion graduates their committers into different levels
 of trust, just as httpd does.  I think we can ask for and expect some
 quality patches before adding them to the apr ldap commit group.

If it were up to me, I'd favor giving commit on the basis of merit and 
demonstrated involvement, just like anyone else.

S.

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Re: Making Subversion folks APR committers?

2010-04-07 Thread Nick Kew

On 7 Apr 2010, at 23:58, Bojan Smojver wrote:

 Now that Subversion is an Apache project, I think it would be great if
 we could make folks from that project committers on APR, so that they
 can improve the code at will. Does that sound reasonable?

Who do you have in mind, or are you suggesting a blanket commit?
If the latter, then why should HTTPD be different?

Don't we already have significant overlap with both APR-user
projects, precisely because of the natural overlaps in developer
interests?

-- 
Nick Kew


Re: Making Subversion folks APR committers?

2010-04-07 Thread Bojan Smojver
On Thu, 2010-04-08 at 00:37 +0100, Nick Kew wrote:
 Who do you have in mind, or are you suggesting a blanket commit?

For instance, Hyrum K. Wright submitted a patch for apr_hash and asked
about it a few times. My understanding is that he's a Subversion
committer. Instead of him waiting for some of us to do it, we can just
make him a committer here. When other Subversion folks submit patches,
we can then do the same. It would help APR move along quicker, I
guess...

-- 
Bojan