Re: [DISCUSS] Graduation to a top-level project
A quick update: a meeting of the ASF Board of Directors is scheduled for later this week, at which the Board may consider taking action on our graduation proposal! That said, even if the Board does enact it, any public announcement is expected to be delayed to the first half of January due to the holidays. In the meanwhile, we are still an Incubator podling and should continue to operate as such until the ASF announces otherwise... so, please hold your speculation and enthusiasm for another few weeks ;-) Davor On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 11:09 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote: > Congrats all ! > > Regards > JB > > > On 12/09/2016 12:42 AM, Davor Bonaci wrote: > >> A quick update: the Apache Incubator has adopted the proposed graduation >> resolution [1], and it is now presented to the ASF Board of Directors for >> their consideration. >> >> Davor >> >> [1] >> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/71a1c63837a7d1506a10af9 >> c70af1c24db988451ac5b53fa2467b9b8@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E >> >> On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 10:35 AM, Neelesh Salian >> wrote: >> >> Quite an interesting discussion. Looking forward to the graduation. :) >>> Thanks for putting this together. >>> >>> On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 10:30 AM, Davor Bonaci wrote: >>> >>> A quick update: the vote within the Incubator has been started [1]. Davor [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/a8e9cecfe93f0e464cc7c1774d2761 ca14326df1101b7670ca8b1dc3@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 11:40 AM, Davor Bonaci wrote: A quick update on the progress: the PPMC is nearly complete drafting > the >>> proposed resolution, and I've just kicked off the discussion within the > Incubator community [1]. > > I'd encourage everyone to participate in the discussion and carry your > enthusiasm there. Thanks! > > Davor > > [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/b9c1071b355588468368145 > 75ada3c >>> dca61c72dc1e672ab994a9c936@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E > > On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 1:52 AM, Maximilian Michels > wrote: > > +1 >> >> I see a healthy project which deserves to graduate. >> >> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 6:03 PM, Davor Bonaci >> > wrote: >>> Thanks everyone for the enthusiastic support! >>> >>> Please keep the thread going, as we kick off the process on private@ >>> >> . >>> Please don’t forget to bring up any data points that might help >>> >> strengthen >> >>> our case. >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 8:45 AM, Scott Wegner >>> >> >> >>> wrote: >>> >>> +1 (beaming) On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 8:25 AM Robert Bradshaw wrote: +1 On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 7:36 AM, Lukasz Cwik >>> >>> > >>> wrote: > +1 > > On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 9:48 AM, Stephan Ewen > wrote: >> >>> > +1 >> The community if doing very well and behaving very Apache >> >> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 9:54 AM, Etienne Chauchot < >> > echauc...@gmail.com> >> >>> wrote: >> >> A big +1 of course, very excited to go forward >>> >>> Etienne >>> >>> >>> >>> Le 22/11/2016 à 19:19, Davor Bonaci a écrit : >>> >>> Hi everyone, With all the progress we’ve had recently in Apache Beam, I >>> think > it >> >>> is > time we start the discussion about graduation as a new top-level >>> project >> >>> at > the >> >>> Apache Software Foundation. Graduation means we are a self-sustaining and self-governing >>> community, > and ready to be a full participant in the Apache Software >>> Foundation. It >> >>> does >> >>> not imply that our community growth is complete or that a >>> particular >> >>> level >> >>> of technical maturity has been reached, rather that we are >>> on a >>> solid >> >>> trajectory in those areas. After graduation, we will still >>> periodically > report to, and be overseen by, the ASF Board to ensure >>> continued > growth > of >> >>> a healthy community. Graduation is an important milestone for the project. It is >>> also > key >> >>> to > further grow the user community: many users (incorrectly) see >>> incubati
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduation to a top-level project
Congrats all ! Regards JB On 12/09/2016 12:42 AM, Davor Bonaci wrote: A quick update: the Apache Incubator has adopted the proposed graduation resolution [1], and it is now presented to the ASF Board of Directors for their consideration. Davor [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/71a1c63837a7d1506a10af9c70af1c24db988451ac5b53fa2467b9b8@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 10:35 AM, Neelesh Salian wrote: Quite an interesting discussion. Looking forward to the graduation. :) Thanks for putting this together. On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 10:30 AM, Davor Bonaci wrote: A quick update: the vote within the Incubator has been started [1]. Davor [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/a8e9cecfe93f0e464cc7c1774d2761 ca14326df1101b7670ca8b1dc3@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 11:40 AM, Davor Bonaci wrote: A quick update on the progress: the PPMC is nearly complete drafting the proposed resolution, and I've just kicked off the discussion within the Incubator community [1]. I'd encourage everyone to participate in the discussion and carry your enthusiasm there. Thanks! Davor [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/b9c1071b355588468368145 75ada3c dca61c72dc1e672ab994a9c936@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 1:52 AM, Maximilian Michels wrote: +1 I see a healthy project which deserves to graduate. On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 6:03 PM, Davor Bonaci wrote: Thanks everyone for the enthusiastic support! Please keep the thread going, as we kick off the process on private@ . Please don’t forget to bring up any data points that might help strengthen our case. Thanks! On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 8:45 AM, Scott Wegner wrote: +1 (beaming) On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 8:25 AM Robert Bradshaw wrote: +1 On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 7:36 AM, Lukasz Cwik wrote: +1 On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 9:48 AM, Stephan Ewen wrote: +1 The community if doing very well and behaving very Apache On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 9:54 AM, Etienne Chauchot < echauc...@gmail.com> wrote: A big +1 of course, very excited to go forward Etienne Le 22/11/2016 à 19:19, Davor Bonaci a écrit : Hi everyone, With all the progress we’ve had recently in Apache Beam, I think it is time we start the discussion about graduation as a new top-level project at the Apache Software Foundation. Graduation means we are a self-sustaining and self-governing community, and ready to be a full participant in the Apache Software Foundation. It does not imply that our community growth is complete or that a particular level of technical maturity has been reached, rather that we are on a solid trajectory in those areas. After graduation, we will still periodically report to, and be overseen by, the ASF Board to ensure continued growth of a healthy community. Graduation is an important milestone for the project. It is also key to further grow the user community: many users (incorrectly) see incubation as a sign of instability and are much less likely to consider us for a production use. A way to think about graduation readiness is through the Apache Maturity Model [1]. I think we clearly satisfy all the requirements [2]. It is probably worth emphasizing the recent community growth: over each of the past three months, no single organization contributing to Beam has had more than ~50% of the unique contributors per month [2, see assumptions]. That’s a great statistic that shows how much we’ve grown our diversity! Process-wise, graduation consists of drafting a board resolution, which needs to identify the full Project Management Committee, and getting it approved by the community, the Incubator, and the Board. Within the Beam community, most of these discussions and votes have to be on the private@ mailing list, but, as usual, we’ll try to keep dev@ updated as much as possible. With that in mind, let’s use this discussion on dev@ for two things: * Collect additional data points on our progress that we may want to present to the Incubator as a part of the proposal to accept our graduation. * Determine whether the community supports graduation. Please reply +1/-1 with any additional comments, as appropriate. I’d encourage everyone to participate -- regardless whether you are an occasional visitor or have a specific role in the project -- we’d love to hear your perspective. Data points so far: * Project’s maturity self-assessment [2]. * 1500 pull requests in incubation, which makes us one of the most active project across all of ASF on this metric. * 3 releases, each driven by a different release manager. * 120+ individual contributors. * 3 new committers added, 2 of which aren’t from the largest organization. * 1027 issues created, 515 resolved. * 442 dev@ emails in October alone, sent by 51 individuals. * 50 user@ emails in the last 30 days, sent by 22 individuals. Thanks! Davor [
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduation to a top-level project
Excellent! On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 3:43 PM Davor Bonaci wrote: > A quick update: the Apache Incubator has adopted the proposed graduation > resolution [1], and it is now presented to the ASF Board of Directors for > their consideration. > > Davor > > [1] > > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/71a1c63837a7d1506a10af9c70af1c24db988451ac5b53fa2467b9b8@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E > > On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 10:35 AM, Neelesh Salian > wrote: > > > Quite an interesting discussion. Looking forward to the graduation. :) > > Thanks for putting this together. > > > > On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 10:30 AM, Davor Bonaci wrote: > > > > > A quick update: the vote within the Incubator has been started [1]. > > > > > > Davor > > > > > > [1] > > > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/a8e9cecfe93f0e464cc7c1774d2761 > > > ca14326df1101b7670ca8b1dc3@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 11:40 AM, Davor Bonaci > wrote: > > > > > > > A quick update on the progress: the PPMC is nearly complete drafting > > the > > > > proposed resolution, and I've just kicked off the discussion within > the > > > > Incubator community [1]. > > > > > > > > I'd encourage everyone to participate in the discussion and carry > your > > > > enthusiasm there. Thanks! > > > > > > > > Davor > > > > > > > > [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/b9c1071b355588468368145 > > 75ada3c > > > > dca61c72dc1e672ab994a9c936@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E > > > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 1:52 AM, Maximilian Michels > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > >> +1 > > > >> > > > >> I see a healthy project which deserves to graduate. > > > >> > > > >> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 6:03 PM, Davor Bonaci > > wrote: > > > >> > Thanks everyone for the enthusiastic support! > > > >> > > > > >> > Please keep the thread going, as we kick off the process on > private@ > > . > > > >> > Please don’t forget to bring up any data points that might help > > > >> strengthen > > > >> > our case. > > > >> > > > > >> > Thanks! > > > >> > > > > >> > On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 8:45 AM, Scott Wegner > > > >> > > > >> > wrote: > > > >> > > > > >> >> +1 (beaming) > > > >> >> > > > >> >> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 8:25 AM Robert Bradshaw > > > >> >> > > > >> >> wrote: > > > >> >> > > > >> >> +1 > > > >> >> > > > >> >> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 7:36 AM, Lukasz Cwik > > > > > >> > > > > >> >> wrote: > > > >> >> > +1 > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 9:48 AM, Stephan Ewen < > se...@apache.org> > > > >> wrote: > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> >> +1 > > > >> >> >> The community if doing very well and behaving very Apache > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 9:54 AM, Etienne Chauchot < > > > >> echauc...@gmail.com> > > > >> >> >> wrote: > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > A big +1 of course, very excited to go forward > > > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> > Etienne > > > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> > Le 22/11/2016 à 19:19, Davor Bonaci a écrit : > > > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> >> Hi everyone, > > > >> >> >> >> With all the progress we’ve had recently in Apache Beam, I > > > think > > > >> it > > > >> >> is > > > >> >> >> >> time > > > >> >> >> >> we start the discussion about graduation as a new top-level > > > >> project > > > >> >> at > > > >> >> >> the > > > >> >> >> >> Apache Software Foundation. > > > >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> Graduation means we are a self-sustaining and > self-governing > > > >> >> community, > > > >> >> >> >> and > > > >> >> >> >> ready to be a full participant in the Apache Software > > > >> Foundation. It > > > >> >> >> does > > > >> >> >> >> not imply that our community growth is complete or that a > > > >> particular > > > >> >> >> level > > > >> >> >> >> of technical maturity has been reached, rather that we are > > on a > > > >> solid > > > >> >> >> >> trajectory in those areas. After graduation, we will still > > > >> >> periodically > > > >> >> >> >> report to, and be overseen by, the ASF Board to ensure > > > continued > > > >> >> growth > > > >> >> >> of > > > >> >> >> >> a healthy community. > > > >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> Graduation is an important milestone for the project. It is > > > also > > > >> key > > > >> >> to > > > >> >> >> >> further grow the user community: many users (incorrectly) > see > > > >> >> incubation > > > >> >> >> >> as > > > >> >> >> >> a sign of instability and are much less likely to consider > us > > > >> for a > > > >> >> >> >> production use. > > > >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> A way to think about graduation readiness is through the > > Apache > > > >> >> Maturity > > > >> >> >> >> Model [1]. I think we clearly satisfy all the requirements > > [2]. > > > >> It is > > > >> >> >> >> probably worth emphasizing the recent community growth: > over > > > >> each of > > > >> >> the > > > >> >> >> >> past three months, no single organization contributing to > > Beam > > > >> has > > > >> >> had > > > >> >> >> >> more > > > >> >> >> >> than ~50% of the u
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduation to a top-level project
A quick update: the Apache Incubator has adopted the proposed graduation resolution [1], and it is now presented to the ASF Board of Directors for their consideration. Davor [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/71a1c63837a7d1506a10af9c70af1c24db988451ac5b53fa2467b9b8@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 10:35 AM, Neelesh Salian wrote: > Quite an interesting discussion. Looking forward to the graduation. :) > Thanks for putting this together. > > On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 10:30 AM, Davor Bonaci wrote: > > > A quick update: the vote within the Incubator has been started [1]. > > > > Davor > > > > [1] > > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/a8e9cecfe93f0e464cc7c1774d2761 > > ca14326df1101b7670ca8b1dc3@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E > > > > On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 11:40 AM, Davor Bonaci wrote: > > > > > A quick update on the progress: the PPMC is nearly complete drafting > the > > > proposed resolution, and I've just kicked off the discussion within the > > > Incubator community [1]. > > > > > > I'd encourage everyone to participate in the discussion and carry your > > > enthusiasm there. Thanks! > > > > > > Davor > > > > > > [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/b9c1071b355588468368145 > 75ada3c > > > dca61c72dc1e672ab994a9c936@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 1:52 AM, Maximilian Michels > > > wrote: > > > > > >> +1 > > >> > > >> I see a healthy project which deserves to graduate. > > >> > > >> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 6:03 PM, Davor Bonaci > wrote: > > >> > Thanks everyone for the enthusiastic support! > > >> > > > >> > Please keep the thread going, as we kick off the process on private@ > . > > >> > Please don’t forget to bring up any data points that might help > > >> strengthen > > >> > our case. > > >> > > > >> > Thanks! > > >> > > > >> > On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 8:45 AM, Scott Wegner > > >> > > >> > wrote: > > >> > > > >> >> +1 (beaming) > > >> >> > > >> >> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 8:25 AM Robert Bradshaw > > >> >> > > >> >> wrote: > > >> >> > > >> >> +1 > > >> >> > > >> >> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 7:36 AM, Lukasz Cwik > > > >> > > > >> >> wrote: > > >> >> > +1 > > >> >> > > > >> >> > On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 9:48 AM, Stephan Ewen > > >> wrote: > > >> >> > > > >> >> >> +1 > > >> >> >> The community if doing very well and behaving very Apache > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 9:54 AM, Etienne Chauchot < > > >> echauc...@gmail.com> > > >> >> >> wrote: > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > A big +1 of course, very excited to go forward > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > Etienne > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > Le 22/11/2016 à 19:19, Davor Bonaci a écrit : > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> Hi everyone, > > >> >> >> >> With all the progress we’ve had recently in Apache Beam, I > > think > > >> it > > >> >> is > > >> >> >> >> time > > >> >> >> >> we start the discussion about graduation as a new top-level > > >> project > > >> >> at > > >> >> >> the > > >> >> >> >> Apache Software Foundation. > > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> Graduation means we are a self-sustaining and self-governing > > >> >> community, > > >> >> >> >> and > > >> >> >> >> ready to be a full participant in the Apache Software > > >> Foundation. It > > >> >> >> does > > >> >> >> >> not imply that our community growth is complete or that a > > >> particular > > >> >> >> level > > >> >> >> >> of technical maturity has been reached, rather that we are > on a > > >> solid > > >> >> >> >> trajectory in those areas. After graduation, we will still > > >> >> periodically > > >> >> >> >> report to, and be overseen by, the ASF Board to ensure > > continued > > >> >> growth > > >> >> >> of > > >> >> >> >> a healthy community. > > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> Graduation is an important milestone for the project. It is > > also > > >> key > > >> >> to > > >> >> >> >> further grow the user community: many users (incorrectly) see > > >> >> incubation > > >> >> >> >> as > > >> >> >> >> a sign of instability and are much less likely to consider us > > >> for a > > >> >> >> >> production use. > > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> A way to think about graduation readiness is through the > Apache > > >> >> Maturity > > >> >> >> >> Model [1]. I think we clearly satisfy all the requirements > [2]. > > >> It is > > >> >> >> >> probably worth emphasizing the recent community growth: over > > >> each of > > >> >> the > > >> >> >> >> past three months, no single organization contributing to > Beam > > >> has > > >> >> had > > >> >> >> >> more > > >> >> >> >> than ~50% of the unique contributors per month [2, see > > >> assumptions]. > > >> >> >> >> That’s > > >> >> >> >> a great statistic that shows how much we’ve grown our > > diversity! > > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> Process-wise, graduation consists of drafting a board > > resolution, > > >> >> which > > >> >> >> >> needs to identify the full Project Management Committee, and > > >> getting > > >> >> it > > >> >> >> >> app
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduation to a top-level project
Quite an interesting discussion. Looking forward to the graduation. :) Thanks for putting this together. On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 10:30 AM, Davor Bonaci wrote: > A quick update: the vote within the Incubator has been started [1]. > > Davor > > [1] > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/a8e9cecfe93f0e464cc7c1774d2761 > ca14326df1101b7670ca8b1dc3@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E > > On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 11:40 AM, Davor Bonaci wrote: > > > A quick update on the progress: the PPMC is nearly complete drafting the > > proposed resolution, and I've just kicked off the discussion within the > > Incubator community [1]. > > > > I'd encourage everyone to participate in the discussion and carry your > > enthusiasm there. Thanks! > > > > Davor > > > > [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/b9c1071b35558846836814575ada3c > > dca61c72dc1e672ab994a9c936@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E > > > > On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 1:52 AM, Maximilian Michels > > wrote: > > > >> +1 > >> > >> I see a healthy project which deserves to graduate. > >> > >> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 6:03 PM, Davor Bonaci wrote: > >> > Thanks everyone for the enthusiastic support! > >> > > >> > Please keep the thread going, as we kick off the process on private@. > >> > Please don’t forget to bring up any data points that might help > >> strengthen > >> > our case. > >> > > >> > Thanks! > >> > > >> > On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 8:45 AM, Scott Wegner > >> > >> > wrote: > >> > > >> >> +1 (beaming) > >> >> > >> >> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 8:25 AM Robert Bradshaw > >> >> > >> >> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> +1 > >> >> > >> >> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 7:36 AM, Lukasz Cwik > >> > > >> >> wrote: > >> >> > +1 > >> >> > > >> >> > On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 9:48 AM, Stephan Ewen > >> wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> +1 > >> >> >> The community if doing very well and behaving very Apache > >> >> >> > >> >> >> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 9:54 AM, Etienne Chauchot < > >> echauc...@gmail.com> > >> >> >> wrote: > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > A big +1 of course, very excited to go forward > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Etienne > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Le 22/11/2016 à 19:19, Davor Bonaci a écrit : > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> Hi everyone, > >> >> >> >> With all the progress we’ve had recently in Apache Beam, I > think > >> it > >> >> is > >> >> >> >> time > >> >> >> >> we start the discussion about graduation as a new top-level > >> project > >> >> at > >> >> >> the > >> >> >> >> Apache Software Foundation. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Graduation means we are a self-sustaining and self-governing > >> >> community, > >> >> >> >> and > >> >> >> >> ready to be a full participant in the Apache Software > >> Foundation. It > >> >> >> does > >> >> >> >> not imply that our community growth is complete or that a > >> particular > >> >> >> level > >> >> >> >> of technical maturity has been reached, rather that we are on a > >> solid > >> >> >> >> trajectory in those areas. After graduation, we will still > >> >> periodically > >> >> >> >> report to, and be overseen by, the ASF Board to ensure > continued > >> >> growth > >> >> >> of > >> >> >> >> a healthy community. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Graduation is an important milestone for the project. It is > also > >> key > >> >> to > >> >> >> >> further grow the user community: many users (incorrectly) see > >> >> incubation > >> >> >> >> as > >> >> >> >> a sign of instability and are much less likely to consider us > >> for a > >> >> >> >> production use. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> A way to think about graduation readiness is through the Apache > >> >> Maturity > >> >> >> >> Model [1]. I think we clearly satisfy all the requirements [2]. > >> It is > >> >> >> >> probably worth emphasizing the recent community growth: over > >> each of > >> >> the > >> >> >> >> past three months, no single organization contributing to Beam > >> has > >> >> had > >> >> >> >> more > >> >> >> >> than ~50% of the unique contributors per month [2, see > >> assumptions]. > >> >> >> >> That’s > >> >> >> >> a great statistic that shows how much we’ve grown our > diversity! > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Process-wise, graduation consists of drafting a board > resolution, > >> >> which > >> >> >> >> needs to identify the full Project Management Committee, and > >> getting > >> >> it > >> >> >> >> approved by the community, the Incubator, and the Board. Within > >> the > >> >> Beam > >> >> >> >> community, most of these discussions and votes have to be on > the > >> >> >> private@ > >> >> >> >> mailing list, but, as usual, we’ll try to keep dev@ updated as > >> much > >> >> as > >> >> >> >> possible. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> With that in mind, let’s use this discussion on dev@ for two > >> things: > >> >> >> >> * Collect additional data points on our progress that we may > >> want to > >> >> >> >> present to the Incubator as a part of the proposal to accept > our > >> >> >> >> graduation. > >> >> >> >> * Determine whether the community supports graduation. Ple
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduation to a top-level project
A quick update: the vote within the Incubator has been started [1]. Davor [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/a8e9cecfe93f0e464cc7c1774d2761ca14326df1101b7670ca8b1dc3@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 11:40 AM, Davor Bonaci wrote: > A quick update on the progress: the PPMC is nearly complete drafting the > proposed resolution, and I've just kicked off the discussion within the > Incubator community [1]. > > I'd encourage everyone to participate in the discussion and carry your > enthusiasm there. Thanks! > > Davor > > [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/b9c1071b35558846836814575ada3c > dca61c72dc1e672ab994a9c936@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E > > On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 1:52 AM, Maximilian Michels > wrote: > >> +1 >> >> I see a healthy project which deserves to graduate. >> >> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 6:03 PM, Davor Bonaci wrote: >> > Thanks everyone for the enthusiastic support! >> > >> > Please keep the thread going, as we kick off the process on private@. >> > Please don’t forget to bring up any data points that might help >> strengthen >> > our case. >> > >> > Thanks! >> > >> > On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 8:45 AM, Scott Wegner >> >> > wrote: >> > >> >> +1 (beaming) >> >> >> >> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 8:25 AM Robert Bradshaw >> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> +1 >> >> >> >> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 7:36 AM, Lukasz Cwik > > >> >> wrote: >> >> > +1 >> >> > >> >> > On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 9:48 AM, Stephan Ewen >> wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> +1 >> >> >> The community if doing very well and behaving very Apache >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 9:54 AM, Etienne Chauchot < >> echauc...@gmail.com> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> > A big +1 of course, very excited to go forward >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Etienne >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Le 22/11/2016 à 19:19, Davor Bonaci a écrit : >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Hi everyone, >> >> >> >> With all the progress we’ve had recently in Apache Beam, I think >> it >> >> is >> >> >> >> time >> >> >> >> we start the discussion about graduation as a new top-level >> project >> >> at >> >> >> the >> >> >> >> Apache Software Foundation. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Graduation means we are a self-sustaining and self-governing >> >> community, >> >> >> >> and >> >> >> >> ready to be a full participant in the Apache Software >> Foundation. It >> >> >> does >> >> >> >> not imply that our community growth is complete or that a >> particular >> >> >> level >> >> >> >> of technical maturity has been reached, rather that we are on a >> solid >> >> >> >> trajectory in those areas. After graduation, we will still >> >> periodically >> >> >> >> report to, and be overseen by, the ASF Board to ensure continued >> >> growth >> >> >> of >> >> >> >> a healthy community. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Graduation is an important milestone for the project. It is also >> key >> >> to >> >> >> >> further grow the user community: many users (incorrectly) see >> >> incubation >> >> >> >> as >> >> >> >> a sign of instability and are much less likely to consider us >> for a >> >> >> >> production use. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> A way to think about graduation readiness is through the Apache >> >> Maturity >> >> >> >> Model [1]. I think we clearly satisfy all the requirements [2]. >> It is >> >> >> >> probably worth emphasizing the recent community growth: over >> each of >> >> the >> >> >> >> past three months, no single organization contributing to Beam >> has >> >> had >> >> >> >> more >> >> >> >> than ~50% of the unique contributors per month [2, see >> assumptions]. >> >> >> >> That’s >> >> >> >> a great statistic that shows how much we’ve grown our diversity! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Process-wise, graduation consists of drafting a board resolution, >> >> which >> >> >> >> needs to identify the full Project Management Committee, and >> getting >> >> it >> >> >> >> approved by the community, the Incubator, and the Board. Within >> the >> >> Beam >> >> >> >> community, most of these discussions and votes have to be on the >> >> >> private@ >> >> >> >> mailing list, but, as usual, we’ll try to keep dev@ updated as >> much >> >> as >> >> >> >> possible. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> With that in mind, let’s use this discussion on dev@ for two >> things: >> >> >> >> * Collect additional data points on our progress that we may >> want to >> >> >> >> present to the Incubator as a part of the proposal to accept our >> >> >> >> graduation. >> >> >> >> * Determine whether the community supports graduation. Please >> reply >> >> >> +1/-1 >> >> >> >> with any additional comments, as appropriate. I’d encourage >> everyone >> >> to >> >> >> >> participate -- regardless whether you are an occasional visitor >> or >> >> have >> >> >> a >> >> >> >> specific role in the project -- we’d love to hear your >> perspective. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Data points so far: >> >> >> >> * Project’s maturity self-assessment [2]. >> >> >> >> * 1500 pull requests in incubation, which makes us one of
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduation to a top-level project
A quick update on the progress: the PPMC is nearly complete drafting the proposed resolution, and I've just kicked off the discussion within the Incubator community [1]. I'd encourage everyone to participate in the discussion and carry your enthusiasm there. Thanks! Davor [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/b9c1071b35558846836814575ada3cdca61c72dc1e672ab994a9c936@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 1:52 AM, Maximilian Michels wrote: > +1 > > I see a healthy project which deserves to graduate. > > On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 6:03 PM, Davor Bonaci wrote: > > Thanks everyone for the enthusiastic support! > > > > Please keep the thread going, as we kick off the process on private@. > > Please don’t forget to bring up any data points that might help > strengthen > > our case. > > > > Thanks! > > > > On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 8:45 AM, Scott Wegner > > > wrote: > > > >> +1 (beaming) > >> > >> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 8:25 AM Robert Bradshaw > >> > >> wrote: > >> > >> +1 > >> > >> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 7:36 AM, Lukasz Cwik > >> wrote: > >> > +1 > >> > > >> > On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 9:48 AM, Stephan Ewen > wrote: > >> > > >> >> +1 > >> >> The community if doing very well and behaving very Apache > >> >> > >> >> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 9:54 AM, Etienne Chauchot < > echauc...@gmail.com> > >> >> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > A big +1 of course, very excited to go forward > >> >> > > >> >> > Etienne > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > Le 22/11/2016 à 19:19, Davor Bonaci a écrit : > >> >> > > >> >> >> Hi everyone, > >> >> >> With all the progress we’ve had recently in Apache Beam, I think > it > >> is > >> >> >> time > >> >> >> we start the discussion about graduation as a new top-level > project > >> at > >> >> the > >> >> >> Apache Software Foundation. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Graduation means we are a self-sustaining and self-governing > >> community, > >> >> >> and > >> >> >> ready to be a full participant in the Apache Software Foundation. > It > >> >> does > >> >> >> not imply that our community growth is complete or that a > particular > >> >> level > >> >> >> of technical maturity has been reached, rather that we are on a > solid > >> >> >> trajectory in those areas. After graduation, we will still > >> periodically > >> >> >> report to, and be overseen by, the ASF Board to ensure continued > >> growth > >> >> of > >> >> >> a healthy community. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Graduation is an important milestone for the project. It is also > key > >> to > >> >> >> further grow the user community: many users (incorrectly) see > >> incubation > >> >> >> as > >> >> >> a sign of instability and are much less likely to consider us for > a > >> >> >> production use. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> A way to think about graduation readiness is through the Apache > >> Maturity > >> >> >> Model [1]. I think we clearly satisfy all the requirements [2]. > It is > >> >> >> probably worth emphasizing the recent community growth: over each > of > >> the > >> >> >> past three months, no single organization contributing to Beam has > >> had > >> >> >> more > >> >> >> than ~50% of the unique contributors per month [2, see > assumptions]. > >> >> >> That’s > >> >> >> a great statistic that shows how much we’ve grown our diversity! > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Process-wise, graduation consists of drafting a board resolution, > >> which > >> >> >> needs to identify the full Project Management Committee, and > getting > >> it > >> >> >> approved by the community, the Incubator, and the Board. Within > the > >> Beam > >> >> >> community, most of these discussions and votes have to be on the > >> >> private@ > >> >> >> mailing list, but, as usual, we’ll try to keep dev@ updated as > much > >> as > >> >> >> possible. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> With that in mind, let’s use this discussion on dev@ for two > things: > >> >> >> * Collect additional data points on our progress that we may want > to > >> >> >> present to the Incubator as a part of the proposal to accept our > >> >> >> graduation. > >> >> >> * Determine whether the community supports graduation. Please > reply > >> >> +1/-1 > >> >> >> with any additional comments, as appropriate. I’d encourage > everyone > >> to > >> >> >> participate -- regardless whether you are an occasional visitor or > >> have > >> >> a > >> >> >> specific role in the project -- we’d love to hear your > perspective. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Data points so far: > >> >> >> * Project’s maturity self-assessment [2]. > >> >> >> * 1500 pull requests in incubation, which makes us one of the most > >> >> active > >> >> >> project across all of ASF on this metric. > >> >> >> * 3 releases, each driven by a different release manager. > >> >> >> * 120+ individual contributors. > >> >> >> * 3 new committers added, 2 of which aren’t from the largest > >> >> organization. > >> >> >> * 1027 issues created, 515 resolved. > >> >> >> * 442 dev@ emails in October alone, sent by 51 individuals. > >> >> >> * 50 user@ emails in the
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduation to a top-level project
+1 I see a healthy project which deserves to graduate. On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 6:03 PM, Davor Bonaci wrote: > Thanks everyone for the enthusiastic support! > > Please keep the thread going, as we kick off the process on private@. > Please don’t forget to bring up any data points that might help strengthen > our case. > > Thanks! > > On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 8:45 AM, Scott Wegner > wrote: > >> +1 (beaming) >> >> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 8:25 AM Robert Bradshaw >> >> wrote: >> >> +1 >> >> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 7:36 AM, Lukasz Cwik >> wrote: >> > +1 >> > >> > On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 9:48 AM, Stephan Ewen wrote: >> > >> >> +1 >> >> The community if doing very well and behaving very Apache >> >> >> >> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 9:54 AM, Etienne Chauchot >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> > A big +1 of course, very excited to go forward >> >> > >> >> > Etienne >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Le 22/11/2016 à 19:19, Davor Bonaci a écrit : >> >> > >> >> >> Hi everyone, >> >> >> With all the progress we’ve had recently in Apache Beam, I think it >> is >> >> >> time >> >> >> we start the discussion about graduation as a new top-level project >> at >> >> the >> >> >> Apache Software Foundation. >> >> >> >> >> >> Graduation means we are a self-sustaining and self-governing >> community, >> >> >> and >> >> >> ready to be a full participant in the Apache Software Foundation. It >> >> does >> >> >> not imply that our community growth is complete or that a particular >> >> level >> >> >> of technical maturity has been reached, rather that we are on a solid >> >> >> trajectory in those areas. After graduation, we will still >> periodically >> >> >> report to, and be overseen by, the ASF Board to ensure continued >> growth >> >> of >> >> >> a healthy community. >> >> >> >> >> >> Graduation is an important milestone for the project. It is also key >> to >> >> >> further grow the user community: many users (incorrectly) see >> incubation >> >> >> as >> >> >> a sign of instability and are much less likely to consider us for a >> >> >> production use. >> >> >> >> >> >> A way to think about graduation readiness is through the Apache >> Maturity >> >> >> Model [1]. I think we clearly satisfy all the requirements [2]. It is >> >> >> probably worth emphasizing the recent community growth: over each of >> the >> >> >> past three months, no single organization contributing to Beam has >> had >> >> >> more >> >> >> than ~50% of the unique contributors per month [2, see assumptions]. >> >> >> That’s >> >> >> a great statistic that shows how much we’ve grown our diversity! >> >> >> >> >> >> Process-wise, graduation consists of drafting a board resolution, >> which >> >> >> needs to identify the full Project Management Committee, and getting >> it >> >> >> approved by the community, the Incubator, and the Board. Within the >> Beam >> >> >> community, most of these discussions and votes have to be on the >> >> private@ >> >> >> mailing list, but, as usual, we’ll try to keep dev@ updated as much >> as >> >> >> possible. >> >> >> >> >> >> With that in mind, let’s use this discussion on dev@ for two things: >> >> >> * Collect additional data points on our progress that we may want to >> >> >> present to the Incubator as a part of the proposal to accept our >> >> >> graduation. >> >> >> * Determine whether the community supports graduation. Please reply >> >> +1/-1 >> >> >> with any additional comments, as appropriate. I’d encourage everyone >> to >> >> >> participate -- regardless whether you are an occasional visitor or >> have >> >> a >> >> >> specific role in the project -- we’d love to hear your perspective. >> >> >> >> >> >> Data points so far: >> >> >> * Project’s maturity self-assessment [2]. >> >> >> * 1500 pull requests in incubation, which makes us one of the most >> >> active >> >> >> project across all of ASF on this metric. >> >> >> * 3 releases, each driven by a different release manager. >> >> >> * 120+ individual contributors. >> >> >> * 3 new committers added, 2 of which aren’t from the largest >> >> organization. >> >> >> * 1027 issues created, 515 resolved. >> >> >> * 442 dev@ emails in October alone, sent by 51 individuals. >> >> >> * 50 user@ emails in the last 30 days, sent by 22 individuals. >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks! >> >> >> >> >> >> Davor >> >> >> >> >> >> [1] http://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project- >> >> >> maturity-model.html >> >> >> [2] http://beam.incubator.apache.org/contribute/maturity-model/ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >>
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduation to a top-level project
Thanks everyone for the enthusiastic support! Please keep the thread going, as we kick off the process on private@. Please don’t forget to bring up any data points that might help strengthen our case. Thanks! On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 8:45 AM, Scott Wegner wrote: > +1 (beaming) > > On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 8:25 AM Robert Bradshaw > > wrote: > > +1 > > On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 7:36 AM, Lukasz Cwik > wrote: > > +1 > > > > On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 9:48 AM, Stephan Ewen wrote: > > > >> +1 > >> The community if doing very well and behaving very Apache > >> > >> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 9:54 AM, Etienne Chauchot > >> wrote: > >> > >> > A big +1 of course, very excited to go forward > >> > > >> > Etienne > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Le 22/11/2016 à 19:19, Davor Bonaci a écrit : > >> > > >> >> Hi everyone, > >> >> With all the progress we’ve had recently in Apache Beam, I think it > is > >> >> time > >> >> we start the discussion about graduation as a new top-level project > at > >> the > >> >> Apache Software Foundation. > >> >> > >> >> Graduation means we are a self-sustaining and self-governing > community, > >> >> and > >> >> ready to be a full participant in the Apache Software Foundation. It > >> does > >> >> not imply that our community growth is complete or that a particular > >> level > >> >> of technical maturity has been reached, rather that we are on a solid > >> >> trajectory in those areas. After graduation, we will still > periodically > >> >> report to, and be overseen by, the ASF Board to ensure continued > growth > >> of > >> >> a healthy community. > >> >> > >> >> Graduation is an important milestone for the project. It is also key > to > >> >> further grow the user community: many users (incorrectly) see > incubation > >> >> as > >> >> a sign of instability and are much less likely to consider us for a > >> >> production use. > >> >> > >> >> A way to think about graduation readiness is through the Apache > Maturity > >> >> Model [1]. I think we clearly satisfy all the requirements [2]. It is > >> >> probably worth emphasizing the recent community growth: over each of > the > >> >> past three months, no single organization contributing to Beam has > had > >> >> more > >> >> than ~50% of the unique contributors per month [2, see assumptions]. > >> >> That’s > >> >> a great statistic that shows how much we’ve grown our diversity! > >> >> > >> >> Process-wise, graduation consists of drafting a board resolution, > which > >> >> needs to identify the full Project Management Committee, and getting > it > >> >> approved by the community, the Incubator, and the Board. Within the > Beam > >> >> community, most of these discussions and votes have to be on the > >> private@ > >> >> mailing list, but, as usual, we’ll try to keep dev@ updated as much > as > >> >> possible. > >> >> > >> >> With that in mind, let’s use this discussion on dev@ for two things: > >> >> * Collect additional data points on our progress that we may want to > >> >> present to the Incubator as a part of the proposal to accept our > >> >> graduation. > >> >> * Determine whether the community supports graduation. Please reply > >> +1/-1 > >> >> with any additional comments, as appropriate. I’d encourage everyone > to > >> >> participate -- regardless whether you are an occasional visitor or > have > >> a > >> >> specific role in the project -- we’d love to hear your perspective. > >> >> > >> >> Data points so far: > >> >> * Project’s maturity self-assessment [2]. > >> >> * 1500 pull requests in incubation, which makes us one of the most > >> active > >> >> project across all of ASF on this metric. > >> >> * 3 releases, each driven by a different release manager. > >> >> * 120+ individual contributors. > >> >> * 3 new committers added, 2 of which aren’t from the largest > >> organization. > >> >> * 1027 issues created, 515 resolved. > >> >> * 442 dev@ emails in October alone, sent by 51 individuals. > >> >> * 50 user@ emails in the last 30 days, sent by 22 individuals. > >> >> > >> >> Thanks! > >> >> > >> >> Davor > >> >> > >> >> [1] http://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project- > >> >> maturity-model.html > >> >> [2] http://beam.incubator.apache.org/contribute/maturity-model/ > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> >
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduation to a top-level project
+1 (beaming) On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 8:25 AM Robert Bradshaw wrote: +1 On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 7:36 AM, Lukasz Cwik wrote: > +1 > > On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 9:48 AM, Stephan Ewen wrote: > >> +1 >> The community if doing very well and behaving very Apache >> >> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 9:54 AM, Etienne Chauchot >> wrote: >> >> > A big +1 of course, very excited to go forward >> > >> > Etienne >> > >> > >> > >> > Le 22/11/2016 à 19:19, Davor Bonaci a écrit : >> > >> >> Hi everyone, >> >> With all the progress we’ve had recently in Apache Beam, I think it is >> >> time >> >> we start the discussion about graduation as a new top-level project at >> the >> >> Apache Software Foundation. >> >> >> >> Graduation means we are a self-sustaining and self-governing community, >> >> and >> >> ready to be a full participant in the Apache Software Foundation. It >> does >> >> not imply that our community growth is complete or that a particular >> level >> >> of technical maturity has been reached, rather that we are on a solid >> >> trajectory in those areas. After graduation, we will still periodically >> >> report to, and be overseen by, the ASF Board to ensure continued growth >> of >> >> a healthy community. >> >> >> >> Graduation is an important milestone for the project. It is also key to >> >> further grow the user community: many users (incorrectly) see incubation >> >> as >> >> a sign of instability and are much less likely to consider us for a >> >> production use. >> >> >> >> A way to think about graduation readiness is through the Apache Maturity >> >> Model [1]. I think we clearly satisfy all the requirements [2]. It is >> >> probably worth emphasizing the recent community growth: over each of the >> >> past three months, no single organization contributing to Beam has had >> >> more >> >> than ~50% of the unique contributors per month [2, see assumptions]. >> >> That’s >> >> a great statistic that shows how much we’ve grown our diversity! >> >> >> >> Process-wise, graduation consists of drafting a board resolution, which >> >> needs to identify the full Project Management Committee, and getting it >> >> approved by the community, the Incubator, and the Board. Within the Beam >> >> community, most of these discussions and votes have to be on the >> private@ >> >> mailing list, but, as usual, we’ll try to keep dev@ updated as much as >> >> possible. >> >> >> >> With that in mind, let’s use this discussion on dev@ for two things: >> >> * Collect additional data points on our progress that we may want to >> >> present to the Incubator as a part of the proposal to accept our >> >> graduation. >> >> * Determine whether the community supports graduation. Please reply >> +1/-1 >> >> with any additional comments, as appropriate. I’d encourage everyone to >> >> participate -- regardless whether you are an occasional visitor or have >> a >> >> specific role in the project -- we’d love to hear your perspective. >> >> >> >> Data points so far: >> >> * Project’s maturity self-assessment [2]. >> >> * 1500 pull requests in incubation, which makes us one of the most >> active >> >> project across all of ASF on this metric. >> >> * 3 releases, each driven by a different release manager. >> >> * 120+ individual contributors. >> >> * 3 new committers added, 2 of which aren’t from the largest >> organization. >> >> * 1027 issues created, 515 resolved. >> >> * 442 dev@ emails in October alone, sent by 51 individuals. >> >> * 50 user@ emails in the last 30 days, sent by 22 individuals. >> >> >> >> Thanks! >> >> >> >> Davor >> >> >> >> [1] http://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project- >> >> maturity-model.html >> >> [2] http://beam.incubator.apache.org/contribute/maturity-model/ >> >> >> >> >> > >>
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduation to a top-level project
+1 On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 7:36 AM, Lukasz Cwik wrote: > +1 > > On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 9:48 AM, Stephan Ewen wrote: > >> +1 >> The community if doing very well and behaving very Apache >> >> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 9:54 AM, Etienne Chauchot >> wrote: >> >> > A big +1 of course, very excited to go forward >> > >> > Etienne >> > >> > >> > >> > Le 22/11/2016 à 19:19, Davor Bonaci a écrit : >> > >> >> Hi everyone, >> >> With all the progress we’ve had recently in Apache Beam, I think it is >> >> time >> >> we start the discussion about graduation as a new top-level project at >> the >> >> Apache Software Foundation. >> >> >> >> Graduation means we are a self-sustaining and self-governing community, >> >> and >> >> ready to be a full participant in the Apache Software Foundation. It >> does >> >> not imply that our community growth is complete or that a particular >> level >> >> of technical maturity has been reached, rather that we are on a solid >> >> trajectory in those areas. After graduation, we will still periodically >> >> report to, and be overseen by, the ASF Board to ensure continued growth >> of >> >> a healthy community. >> >> >> >> Graduation is an important milestone for the project. It is also key to >> >> further grow the user community: many users (incorrectly) see incubation >> >> as >> >> a sign of instability and are much less likely to consider us for a >> >> production use. >> >> >> >> A way to think about graduation readiness is through the Apache Maturity >> >> Model [1]. I think we clearly satisfy all the requirements [2]. It is >> >> probably worth emphasizing the recent community growth: over each of the >> >> past three months, no single organization contributing to Beam has had >> >> more >> >> than ~50% of the unique contributors per month [2, see assumptions]. >> >> That’s >> >> a great statistic that shows how much we’ve grown our diversity! >> >> >> >> Process-wise, graduation consists of drafting a board resolution, which >> >> needs to identify the full Project Management Committee, and getting it >> >> approved by the community, the Incubator, and the Board. Within the Beam >> >> community, most of these discussions and votes have to be on the >> private@ >> >> mailing list, but, as usual, we’ll try to keep dev@ updated as much as >> >> possible. >> >> >> >> With that in mind, let’s use this discussion on dev@ for two things: >> >> * Collect additional data points on our progress that we may want to >> >> present to the Incubator as a part of the proposal to accept our >> >> graduation. >> >> * Determine whether the community supports graduation. Please reply >> +1/-1 >> >> with any additional comments, as appropriate. I’d encourage everyone to >> >> participate -- regardless whether you are an occasional visitor or have >> a >> >> specific role in the project -- we’d love to hear your perspective. >> >> >> >> Data points so far: >> >> * Project’s maturity self-assessment [2]. >> >> * 1500 pull requests in incubation, which makes us one of the most >> active >> >> project across all of ASF on this metric. >> >> * 3 releases, each driven by a different release manager. >> >> * 120+ individual contributors. >> >> * 3 new committers added, 2 of which aren’t from the largest >> organization. >> >> * 1027 issues created, 515 resolved. >> >> * 442 dev@ emails in October alone, sent by 51 individuals. >> >> * 50 user@ emails in the last 30 days, sent by 22 individuals. >> >> >> >> Thanks! >> >> >> >> Davor >> >> >> >> [1] http://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project- >> >> maturity-model.html >> >> [2] http://beam.incubator.apache.org/contribute/maturity-model/ >> >> >> >> >> > >>
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduation to a top-level project
+1 On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 9:48 AM, Stephan Ewen wrote: > +1 > The community if doing very well and behaving very Apache > > On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 9:54 AM, Etienne Chauchot > wrote: > > > A big +1 of course, very excited to go forward > > > > Etienne > > > > > > > > Le 22/11/2016 à 19:19, Davor Bonaci a écrit : > > > >> Hi everyone, > >> With all the progress we’ve had recently in Apache Beam, I think it is > >> time > >> we start the discussion about graduation as a new top-level project at > the > >> Apache Software Foundation. > >> > >> Graduation means we are a self-sustaining and self-governing community, > >> and > >> ready to be a full participant in the Apache Software Foundation. It > does > >> not imply that our community growth is complete or that a particular > level > >> of technical maturity has been reached, rather that we are on a solid > >> trajectory in those areas. After graduation, we will still periodically > >> report to, and be overseen by, the ASF Board to ensure continued growth > of > >> a healthy community. > >> > >> Graduation is an important milestone for the project. It is also key to > >> further grow the user community: many users (incorrectly) see incubation > >> as > >> a sign of instability and are much less likely to consider us for a > >> production use. > >> > >> A way to think about graduation readiness is through the Apache Maturity > >> Model [1]. I think we clearly satisfy all the requirements [2]. It is > >> probably worth emphasizing the recent community growth: over each of the > >> past three months, no single organization contributing to Beam has had > >> more > >> than ~50% of the unique contributors per month [2, see assumptions]. > >> That’s > >> a great statistic that shows how much we’ve grown our diversity! > >> > >> Process-wise, graduation consists of drafting a board resolution, which > >> needs to identify the full Project Management Committee, and getting it > >> approved by the community, the Incubator, and the Board. Within the Beam > >> community, most of these discussions and votes have to be on the > private@ > >> mailing list, but, as usual, we’ll try to keep dev@ updated as much as > >> possible. > >> > >> With that in mind, let’s use this discussion on dev@ for two things: > >> * Collect additional data points on our progress that we may want to > >> present to the Incubator as a part of the proposal to accept our > >> graduation. > >> * Determine whether the community supports graduation. Please reply > +1/-1 > >> with any additional comments, as appropriate. I’d encourage everyone to > >> participate -- regardless whether you are an occasional visitor or have > a > >> specific role in the project -- we’d love to hear your perspective. > >> > >> Data points so far: > >> * Project’s maturity self-assessment [2]. > >> * 1500 pull requests in incubation, which makes us one of the most > active > >> project across all of ASF on this metric. > >> * 3 releases, each driven by a different release manager. > >> * 120+ individual contributors. > >> * 3 new committers added, 2 of which aren’t from the largest > organization. > >> * 1027 issues created, 515 resolved. > >> * 442 dev@ emails in October alone, sent by 51 individuals. > >> * 50 user@ emails in the last 30 days, sent by 22 individuals. > >> > >> Thanks! > >> > >> Davor > >> > >> [1] http://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project- > >> maturity-model.html > >> [2] http://beam.incubator.apache.org/contribute/maturity-model/ > >> > >> > > >
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduation to a top-level project
+1 The community if doing very well and behaving very Apache On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 9:54 AM, Etienne Chauchot wrote: > A big +1 of course, very excited to go forward > > Etienne > > > > Le 22/11/2016 à 19:19, Davor Bonaci a écrit : > >> Hi everyone, >> With all the progress we’ve had recently in Apache Beam, I think it is >> time >> we start the discussion about graduation as a new top-level project at the >> Apache Software Foundation. >> >> Graduation means we are a self-sustaining and self-governing community, >> and >> ready to be a full participant in the Apache Software Foundation. It does >> not imply that our community growth is complete or that a particular level >> of technical maturity has been reached, rather that we are on a solid >> trajectory in those areas. After graduation, we will still periodically >> report to, and be overseen by, the ASF Board to ensure continued growth of >> a healthy community. >> >> Graduation is an important milestone for the project. It is also key to >> further grow the user community: many users (incorrectly) see incubation >> as >> a sign of instability and are much less likely to consider us for a >> production use. >> >> A way to think about graduation readiness is through the Apache Maturity >> Model [1]. I think we clearly satisfy all the requirements [2]. It is >> probably worth emphasizing the recent community growth: over each of the >> past three months, no single organization contributing to Beam has had >> more >> than ~50% of the unique contributors per month [2, see assumptions]. >> That’s >> a great statistic that shows how much we’ve grown our diversity! >> >> Process-wise, graduation consists of drafting a board resolution, which >> needs to identify the full Project Management Committee, and getting it >> approved by the community, the Incubator, and the Board. Within the Beam >> community, most of these discussions and votes have to be on the private@ >> mailing list, but, as usual, we’ll try to keep dev@ updated as much as >> possible. >> >> With that in mind, let’s use this discussion on dev@ for two things: >> * Collect additional data points on our progress that we may want to >> present to the Incubator as a part of the proposal to accept our >> graduation. >> * Determine whether the community supports graduation. Please reply +1/-1 >> with any additional comments, as appropriate. I’d encourage everyone to >> participate -- regardless whether you are an occasional visitor or have a >> specific role in the project -- we’d love to hear your perspective. >> >> Data points so far: >> * Project’s maturity self-assessment [2]. >> * 1500 pull requests in incubation, which makes us one of the most active >> project across all of ASF on this metric. >> * 3 releases, each driven by a different release manager. >> * 120+ individual contributors. >> * 3 new committers added, 2 of which aren’t from the largest organization. >> * 1027 issues created, 515 resolved. >> * 442 dev@ emails in October alone, sent by 51 individuals. >> * 50 user@ emails in the last 30 days, sent by 22 individuals. >> >> Thanks! >> >> Davor >> >> [1] http://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project- >> maturity-model.html >> [2] http://beam.incubator.apache.org/contribute/maturity-model/ >> >> >
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduation to a top-level project
A big +1 of course, very excited to go forward Etienne Le 22/11/2016 à 19:19, Davor Bonaci a écrit : Hi everyone, With all the progress we’ve had recently in Apache Beam, I think it is time we start the discussion about graduation as a new top-level project at the Apache Software Foundation. Graduation means we are a self-sustaining and self-governing community, and ready to be a full participant in the Apache Software Foundation. It does not imply that our community growth is complete or that a particular level of technical maturity has been reached, rather that we are on a solid trajectory in those areas. After graduation, we will still periodically report to, and be overseen by, the ASF Board to ensure continued growth of a healthy community. Graduation is an important milestone for the project. It is also key to further grow the user community: many users (incorrectly) see incubation as a sign of instability and are much less likely to consider us for a production use. A way to think about graduation readiness is through the Apache Maturity Model [1]. I think we clearly satisfy all the requirements [2]. It is probably worth emphasizing the recent community growth: over each of the past three months, no single organization contributing to Beam has had more than ~50% of the unique contributors per month [2, see assumptions]. That’s a great statistic that shows how much we’ve grown our diversity! Process-wise, graduation consists of drafting a board resolution, which needs to identify the full Project Management Committee, and getting it approved by the community, the Incubator, and the Board. Within the Beam community, most of these discussions and votes have to be on the private@ mailing list, but, as usual, we’ll try to keep dev@ updated as much as possible. With that in mind, let’s use this discussion on dev@ for two things: * Collect additional data points on our progress that we may want to present to the Incubator as a part of the proposal to accept our graduation. * Determine whether the community supports graduation. Please reply +1/-1 with any additional comments, as appropriate. I’d encourage everyone to participate -- regardless whether you are an occasional visitor or have a specific role in the project -- we’d love to hear your perspective. Data points so far: * Project’s maturity self-assessment [2]. * 1500 pull requests in incubation, which makes us one of the most active project across all of ASF on this metric. * 3 releases, each driven by a different release manager. * 120+ individual contributors. * 3 new committers added, 2 of which aren’t from the largest organization. * 1027 issues created, 515 resolved. * 442 dev@ emails in October alone, sent by 51 individuals. * 50 user@ emails in the last 30 days, sent by 22 individuals. Thanks! Davor [1] http://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project- maturity-model.html [2] http://beam.incubator.apache.org/contribute/maturity-model/
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduation to a top-level project
+1 I'm excited to see the engagement of the community here. S On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 1:22 PM Ismaël Mejía wrote: > +1 > Excellent and congratulations everyone for the great work ! > > On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 10:21 PM, Sergio Fernández > wrote: > > > As an external person who has been following the podling very closely > from > > the very beginning, I definetelly think you are ready for graduation :-) > > > > On Nov 22, 2016 19:19, "Davor Bonaci" wrote: > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > With all the progress we’ve had recently in Apache Beam, I think it is > > time > > > we start the discussion about graduation as a new top-level project at > > the > > > Apache Software Foundation. > > > > > > Graduation means we are a self-sustaining and self-governing community, > > and > > > ready to be a full participant in the Apache Software Foundation. It > does > > > not imply that our community growth is complete or that a particular > > level > > > of technical maturity has been reached, rather that we are on a solid > > > trajectory in those areas. After graduation, we will still periodically > > > report to, and be overseen by, the ASF Board to ensure continued growth > > of > > > a healthy community. > > > > > > Graduation is an important milestone for the project. It is also key to > > > further grow the user community: many users (incorrectly) see > incubation > > as > > > a sign of instability and are much less likely to consider us for a > > > production use. > > > > > > A way to think about graduation readiness is through the Apache > Maturity > > > Model [1]. I think we clearly satisfy all the requirements [2]. It is > > > probably worth emphasizing the recent community growth: over each of > the > > > past three months, no single organization contributing to Beam has had > > more > > > than ~50% of the unique contributors per month [2, see assumptions]. > > That’s > > > a great statistic that shows how much we’ve grown our diversity! > > > > > > Process-wise, graduation consists of drafting a board resolution, which > > > needs to identify the full Project Management Committee, and getting it > > > approved by the community, the Incubator, and the Board. Within the > Beam > > > community, most of these discussions and votes have to be on the > private@ > > > mailing list, but, as usual, we’ll try to keep dev@ updated as much as > > > possible. > > > > > > With that in mind, let’s use this discussion on dev@ for two things: > > > * Collect additional data points on our progress that we may want to > > > present to the Incubator as a part of the proposal to accept our > > > graduation. > > > * Determine whether the community supports graduation. Please reply > +1/-1 > > > with any additional comments, as appropriate. I’d encourage everyone to > > > participate -- regardless whether you are an occasional visitor or > have a > > > specific role in the project -- we’d love to hear your perspective. > > > > > > Data points so far: > > > * Project’s maturity self-assessment [2]. > > > * 1500 pull requests in incubation, which makes us one of the most > active > > > project across all of ASF on this metric. > > > * 3 releases, each driven by a different release manager. > > > * 120+ individual contributors. > > > * 3 new committers added, 2 of which aren’t from the largest > > organization. > > > * 1027 issues created, 515 resolved. > > > * 442 dev@ emails in October alone, sent by 51 individuals. > > > * 50 user@ emails in the last 30 days, sent by 22 individuals. > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > Davor > > > > > > [1] http://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project- > > > maturity-model.html > > > [2] http://beam.incubator.apache.org/contribute/maturity-model/ > > > > > >
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduation to a top-level project
+1 Excellent and congratulations everyone for the great work ! On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 10:21 PM, Sergio Fernández wrote: > As an external person who has been following the podling very closely from > the very beginning, I definetelly think you are ready for graduation :-) > > On Nov 22, 2016 19:19, "Davor Bonaci" wrote: > > > Hi everyone, > > With all the progress we’ve had recently in Apache Beam, I think it is > time > > we start the discussion about graduation as a new top-level project at > the > > Apache Software Foundation. > > > > Graduation means we are a self-sustaining and self-governing community, > and > > ready to be a full participant in the Apache Software Foundation. It does > > not imply that our community growth is complete or that a particular > level > > of technical maturity has been reached, rather that we are on a solid > > trajectory in those areas. After graduation, we will still periodically > > report to, and be overseen by, the ASF Board to ensure continued growth > of > > a healthy community. > > > > Graduation is an important milestone for the project. It is also key to > > further grow the user community: many users (incorrectly) see incubation > as > > a sign of instability and are much less likely to consider us for a > > production use. > > > > A way to think about graduation readiness is through the Apache Maturity > > Model [1]. I think we clearly satisfy all the requirements [2]. It is > > probably worth emphasizing the recent community growth: over each of the > > past three months, no single organization contributing to Beam has had > more > > than ~50% of the unique contributors per month [2, see assumptions]. > That’s > > a great statistic that shows how much we’ve grown our diversity! > > > > Process-wise, graduation consists of drafting a board resolution, which > > needs to identify the full Project Management Committee, and getting it > > approved by the community, the Incubator, and the Board. Within the Beam > > community, most of these discussions and votes have to be on the private@ > > mailing list, but, as usual, we’ll try to keep dev@ updated as much as > > possible. > > > > With that in mind, let’s use this discussion on dev@ for two things: > > * Collect additional data points on our progress that we may want to > > present to the Incubator as a part of the proposal to accept our > > graduation. > > * Determine whether the community supports graduation. Please reply +1/-1 > > with any additional comments, as appropriate. I’d encourage everyone to > > participate -- regardless whether you are an occasional visitor or have a > > specific role in the project -- we’d love to hear your perspective. > > > > Data points so far: > > * Project’s maturity self-assessment [2]. > > * 1500 pull requests in incubation, which makes us one of the most active > > project across all of ASF on this metric. > > * 3 releases, each driven by a different release manager. > > * 120+ individual contributors. > > * 3 new committers added, 2 of which aren’t from the largest > organization. > > * 1027 issues created, 515 resolved. > > * 442 dev@ emails in October alone, sent by 51 individuals. > > * 50 user@ emails in the last 30 days, sent by 22 individuals. > > > > Thanks! > > > > Davor > > > > [1] http://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project- > > maturity-model.html > > [2] http://beam.incubator.apache.org/contribute/maturity-model/ > > >
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduation to a top-level project
As an external person who has been following the podling very closely from the very beginning, I definetelly think you are ready for graduation :-) On Nov 22, 2016 19:19, "Davor Bonaci" wrote: > Hi everyone, > With all the progress we’ve had recently in Apache Beam, I think it is time > we start the discussion about graduation as a new top-level project at the > Apache Software Foundation. > > Graduation means we are a self-sustaining and self-governing community, and > ready to be a full participant in the Apache Software Foundation. It does > not imply that our community growth is complete or that a particular level > of technical maturity has been reached, rather that we are on a solid > trajectory in those areas. After graduation, we will still periodically > report to, and be overseen by, the ASF Board to ensure continued growth of > a healthy community. > > Graduation is an important milestone for the project. It is also key to > further grow the user community: many users (incorrectly) see incubation as > a sign of instability and are much less likely to consider us for a > production use. > > A way to think about graduation readiness is through the Apache Maturity > Model [1]. I think we clearly satisfy all the requirements [2]. It is > probably worth emphasizing the recent community growth: over each of the > past three months, no single organization contributing to Beam has had more > than ~50% of the unique contributors per month [2, see assumptions]. That’s > a great statistic that shows how much we’ve grown our diversity! > > Process-wise, graduation consists of drafting a board resolution, which > needs to identify the full Project Management Committee, and getting it > approved by the community, the Incubator, and the Board. Within the Beam > community, most of these discussions and votes have to be on the private@ > mailing list, but, as usual, we’ll try to keep dev@ updated as much as > possible. > > With that in mind, let’s use this discussion on dev@ for two things: > * Collect additional data points on our progress that we may want to > present to the Incubator as a part of the proposal to accept our > graduation. > * Determine whether the community supports graduation. Please reply +1/-1 > with any additional comments, as appropriate. I’d encourage everyone to > participate -- regardless whether you are an occasional visitor or have a > specific role in the project -- we’d love to hear your perspective. > > Data points so far: > * Project’s maturity self-assessment [2]. > * 1500 pull requests in incubation, which makes us one of the most active > project across all of ASF on this metric. > * 3 releases, each driven by a different release manager. > * 120+ individual contributors. > * 3 new committers added, 2 of which aren’t from the largest organization. > * 1027 issues created, 515 resolved. > * 442 dev@ emails in October alone, sent by 51 individuals. > * 50 user@ emails in the last 30 days, sent by 22 individuals. > > Thanks! > > Davor > > [1] http://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project- > maturity-model.html > [2] http://beam.incubator.apache.org/contribute/maturity-model/ >
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduation to a top-level project
Huge +1 On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 1:01 PM, Hadar Hod wrote: > +1 !!! > > On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 12:54 PM, Jesse Anderson > wrote: > > > +1 > > > > On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 12:35 PM Frances Perry > > wrote: > > > > > +1 You might even say I'm beaming with pride ;-) > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 11:58 AM, Kenneth Knowles > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > +1 !!! > > > > > > > > I especially love how the diversity of the community has contributed > to > > > the > > > > conceptual growth and quality of Beam. I can't wait for more! > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 11:22 AM, Thomas Groh > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > > > > > It's been a thrilling experience thus far, and I'm excited for the > > > > future. > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 11:07 AM, Aljoscha Krettek < > > > aljos...@apache.org> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm quite enthusiastic about the growth of the community and the > > open > > > > > > discussions! > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 at 19:51 Jason Kuster < > jasonkus...@google.com. > > > > > invalid> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > An enthusiastic +1! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In particular it's been really great to see the commitment and > > > > interest > > > > > > of > > > > > > > the community in different kinds of testing. Between what we > > > > currently > > > > > > have > > > > > > > on Jenkins and Travis and the in-progress work on IO > integration > > > > tests > > > > > > and > > > > > > > performance tests (plus, I'm sure, other things I'm not aware > of) > > > > we're > > > > > > in > > > > > > > a really good place. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 10:49 AM, Amit Sela < > > amitsel...@gmail.com> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +1, super exciting! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks to JB, Davor and the whole team for creating this > > > > community. I > > > > > > > think > > > > > > > > we've achieved a lot in a short time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Amit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 22, 2016, 20:36 Tyler Akidau > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +1, thanks to everyone who's invested time getting us to > this > > > > > point. > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Tyler > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 10:33 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré < > > > > > > j...@nanthrax.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > First of all, I would like to thank the whole team, and > > > > > especially > > > > > > > > Davor > > > > > > > > > > for the great work and commitment to Apache and the > > > community. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course, a big +1 to move forward on graduation ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > JB > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 11/22/2016 07:19 PM, Davor Bonaci wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > > > > > > With all the progress we’ve had recently in Apache > Beam, > > I > > > > > think > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > time > > > > > > > > > > > we start the discussion about graduation as a new > > top-level > > > > > > project > > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > Apache Software Foundation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Graduation means we are a self-sustaining and > > > self-governing > > > > > > > > community, > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > ready to be a full participant in the Apache Software > > > > > Foundation. > > > > > > > It > > > > > > > > > does > > > > > > > > > > > not imply that our community growth is complete or > that a > > > > > > > particular > > > > > > > > > > level > > > > > > > > > > > of technical maturity has been reached, rather that we > > are > > > > on a > > > > > > > solid > > > > > > > > > > > trajectory in those areas. After graduation, we will > > still > > > > > > > > periodically > > > > > > > > > > > report to, and be overseen by, the ASF Board to ensure > > > > > continued > > > > > > > > growth > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > a healthy community. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Graduation is an important milestone for the project. > It > > is > > > > > also > > > > > > > key > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > further grow the user community: many users > (incorrectly) > > > see > > > > > > > > > incubation > > > > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > > > a sign of instability and are much less likely to > > consider > > > us > > > > > > for a > > > > > > > > > > > production use. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A way to think about graduation readiness is through > the > > > > Apache > > > > > > > > > Maturity > > > > > > > > > > > Model [1]. I think we clearly satisfy all the > > requirements > > > > [2]. > > > >
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduation to a top-level project
+1 Some of us met recently during the Apache Con week and we had a great time discussing about the project and what can be done to better things to move forward. Great to see the progress and growth! On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 10:01 PM, Hadar Hod wrote: > +1 !!! > > On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 12:54 PM, Jesse Anderson > wrote: > > > +1 > > > > On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 12:35 PM Frances Perry > > wrote: > > > > > +1 You might even say I'm beaming with pride ;-) > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 11:58 AM, Kenneth Knowles > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > +1 !!! > > > > > > > > I especially love how the diversity of the community has contributed > to > > > the > > > > conceptual growth and quality of Beam. I can't wait for more! > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 11:22 AM, Thomas Groh > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > > > > > It's been a thrilling experience thus far, and I'm excited for the > > > > future. > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 11:07 AM, Aljoscha Krettek < > > > aljos...@apache.org> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm quite enthusiastic about the growth of the community and the > > open > > > > > > discussions! > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 at 19:51 Jason Kuster < > jasonkus...@google.com. > > > > > invalid> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > An enthusiastic +1! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In particular it's been really great to see the commitment and > > > > interest > > > > > > of > > > > > > > the community in different kinds of testing. Between what we > > > > currently > > > > > > have > > > > > > > on Jenkins and Travis and the in-progress work on IO > integration > > > > tests > > > > > > and > > > > > > > performance tests (plus, I'm sure, other things I'm not aware > of) > > > > we're > > > > > > in > > > > > > > a really good place. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 10:49 AM, Amit Sela < > > amitsel...@gmail.com> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +1, super exciting! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks to JB, Davor and the whole team for creating this > > > > community. I > > > > > > > think > > > > > > > > we've achieved a lot in a short time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Amit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 22, 2016, 20:36 Tyler Akidau > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +1, thanks to everyone who's invested time getting us to > this > > > > > point. > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Tyler > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 10:33 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré < > > > > > > j...@nanthrax.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > First of all, I would like to thank the whole team, and > > > > > especially > > > > > > > > Davor > > > > > > > > > > for the great work and commitment to Apache and the > > > community. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course, a big +1 to move forward on graduation ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > JB > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 11/22/2016 07:19 PM, Davor Bonaci wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > > > > > > With all the progress we’ve had recently in Apache > Beam, > > I > > > > > think > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > time > > > > > > > > > > > we start the discussion about graduation as a new > > top-level > > > > > > project > > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > Apache Software Foundation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Graduation means we are a self-sustaining and > > > self-governing > > > > > > > > community, > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > ready to be a full participant in the Apache Software > > > > > Foundation. > > > > > > > It > > > > > > > > > does > > > > > > > > > > > not imply that our community growth is complete or > that a > > > > > > > particular > > > > > > > > > > level > > > > > > > > > > > of technical maturity has been reached, rather that we > > are > > > > on a > > > > > > > solid > > > > > > > > > > > trajectory in those areas. After graduation, we will > > still > > > > > > > > periodically > > > > > > > > > > > report to, and be overseen by, the ASF Board to ensure > > > > > continued > > > > > > > > growth > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > a healthy community. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Graduation is an important milestone for the project. > It > > is > > > > > also > > > > > > > key > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > further grow the user community: many users > (incorrectly) > > > see > > > > > > > > > incubation > > > > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > > > a sign of instability and are much less likely to > > consider > > > us > > > > > > for a > > > > > > > > > > > production use. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A way to thin
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduation to a top-level project
+1 !!! On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 12:54 PM, Jesse Anderson wrote: > +1 > > On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 12:35 PM Frances Perry > wrote: > > > +1 You might even say I'm beaming with pride ;-) > > > > On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 11:58 AM, Kenneth Knowles > > > wrote: > > > > > +1 !!! > > > > > > I especially love how the diversity of the community has contributed to > > the > > > conceptual growth and quality of Beam. I can't wait for more! > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 11:22 AM, Thomas Groh > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > > > It's been a thrilling experience thus far, and I'm excited for the > > > future. > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 11:07 AM, Aljoscha Krettek < > > aljos...@apache.org> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > > > > > I'm quite enthusiastic about the growth of the community and the > open > > > > > discussions! > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 at 19:51 Jason Kuster > > > invalid> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > An enthusiastic +1! > > > > > > > > > > > > In particular it's been really great to see the commitment and > > > interest > > > > > of > > > > > > the community in different kinds of testing. Between what we > > > currently > > > > > have > > > > > > on Jenkins and Travis and the in-progress work on IO integration > > > tests > > > > > and > > > > > > performance tests (plus, I'm sure, other things I'm not aware of) > > > we're > > > > > in > > > > > > a really good place. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 10:49 AM, Amit Sela < > amitsel...@gmail.com> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > +1, super exciting! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks to JB, Davor and the whole team for creating this > > > community. I > > > > > > think > > > > > > > we've achieved a lot in a short time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Amit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 22, 2016, 20:36 Tyler Akidau > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +1, thanks to everyone who's invested time getting us to this > > > > point. > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Tyler > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 10:33 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré < > > > > > j...@nanthrax.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > First of all, I would like to thank the whole team, and > > > > especially > > > > > > > Davor > > > > > > > > > for the great work and commitment to Apache and the > > community. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course, a big +1 to move forward on graduation ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > JB > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 11/22/2016 07:19 PM, Davor Bonaci wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > > > > > With all the progress we’ve had recently in Apache Beam, > I > > > > think > > > > > it > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > time > > > > > > > > > > we start the discussion about graduation as a new > top-level > > > > > project > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > Apache Software Foundation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Graduation means we are a self-sustaining and > > self-governing > > > > > > > community, > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > ready to be a full participant in the Apache Software > > > > Foundation. > > > > > > It > > > > > > > > does > > > > > > > > > > not imply that our community growth is complete or that a > > > > > > particular > > > > > > > > > level > > > > > > > > > > of technical maturity has been reached, rather that we > are > > > on a > > > > > > solid > > > > > > > > > > trajectory in those areas. After graduation, we will > still > > > > > > > periodically > > > > > > > > > > report to, and be overseen by, the ASF Board to ensure > > > > continued > > > > > > > growth > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > a healthy community. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Graduation is an important milestone for the project. It > is > > > > also > > > > > > key > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > further grow the user community: many users (incorrectly) > > see > > > > > > > > incubation > > > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > > a sign of instability and are much less likely to > consider > > us > > > > > for a > > > > > > > > > > production use. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A way to think about graduation readiness is through the > > > Apache > > > > > > > > Maturity > > > > > > > > > > Model [1]. I think we clearly satisfy all the > requirements > > > [2]. > > > > > It > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > probably worth emphasizing the recent community growth: > > over > > > > each > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > past three months, no single organization contributing to > > > Beam > > > > > has > > > > > > > had > > > > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > > > than ~50% of the unique contributors per month [2, see > > > > > > assumptions]. > > > > > > > > > That’s > > > > > > >
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduation to a top-level project
+1 On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 10:19 AM, Davor Bonaci wrote: > Hi everyone, > With all the progress we’ve had recently in Apache Beam, I think it is time > we start the discussion about graduation as a new top-level project at the > Apache Software Foundation. > > Graduation means we are a self-sustaining and self-governing community, and > ready to be a full participant in the Apache Software Foundation. It does > not imply that our community growth is complete or that a particular level > of technical maturity has been reached, rather that we are on a solid > trajectory in those areas. After graduation, we will still periodically > report to, and be overseen by, the ASF Board to ensure continued growth of > a healthy community. > > Graduation is an important milestone for the project. It is also key to > further grow the user community: many users (incorrectly) see incubation as > a sign of instability and are much less likely to consider us for a > production use. > > A way to think about graduation readiness is through the Apache Maturity > Model [1]. I think we clearly satisfy all the requirements [2]. It is > probably worth emphasizing the recent community growth: over each of the > past three months, no single organization contributing to Beam has had more > than ~50% of the unique contributors per month [2, see assumptions]. That’s > a great statistic that shows how much we’ve grown our diversity! > > Process-wise, graduation consists of drafting a board resolution, which > needs to identify the full Project Management Committee, and getting it > approved by the community, the Incubator, and the Board. Within the Beam > community, most of these discussions and votes have to be on the private@ > mailing list, but, as usual, we’ll try to keep dev@ updated as much as > possible. > > With that in mind, let’s use this discussion on dev@ for two things: > * Collect additional data points on our progress that we may want to > present to the Incubator as a part of the proposal to accept our > graduation. > * Determine whether the community supports graduation. Please reply +1/-1 > with any additional comments, as appropriate. I’d encourage everyone to > participate -- regardless whether you are an occasional visitor or have a > specific role in the project -- we’d love to hear your perspective. > > Data points so far: > * Project’s maturity self-assessment [2]. > * 1500 pull requests in incubation, which makes us one of the most active > project across all of ASF on this metric. > * 3 releases, each driven by a different release manager. > * 120+ individual contributors. > * 3 new committers added, 2 of which aren’t from the largest organization. > * 1027 issues created, 515 resolved. > * 442 dev@ emails in October alone, sent by 51 individuals. > * 50 user@ emails in the last 30 days, sent by 22 individuals. > > Thanks! > > Davor > > [1] http://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project- > maturity-model.html > [2] http://beam.incubator.apache.org/contribute/maturity-model/ > -- Luciano Resende http://twitter.com/lresende1975 http://lresende.blogspot.com/
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduation to a top-level project
+1 On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 12:35 PM Frances Perry wrote: > +1 You might even say I'm beaming with pride ;-) > > On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 11:58 AM, Kenneth Knowles > wrote: > > > +1 !!! > > > > I especially love how the diversity of the community has contributed to > the > > conceptual growth and quality of Beam. I can't wait for more! > > > > On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 11:22 AM, Thomas Groh > > wrote: > > > > > +1 > > > > > > It's been a thrilling experience thus far, and I'm excited for the > > future. > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 11:07 AM, Aljoscha Krettek < > aljos...@apache.org> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > > > I'm quite enthusiastic about the growth of the community and the open > > > > discussions! > > > > > > > > On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 at 19:51 Jason Kuster > > invalid> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > An enthusiastic +1! > > > > > > > > > > In particular it's been really great to see the commitment and > > interest > > > > of > > > > > the community in different kinds of testing. Between what we > > currently > > > > have > > > > > on Jenkins and Travis and the in-progress work on IO integration > > tests > > > > and > > > > > performance tests (plus, I'm sure, other things I'm not aware of) > > we're > > > > in > > > > > a really good place. > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 10:49 AM, Amit Sela > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > +1, super exciting! > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks to JB, Davor and the whole team for creating this > > community. I > > > > > think > > > > > > we've achieved a lot in a short time. > > > > > > > > > > > > Amit. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 22, 2016, 20:36 Tyler Akidau > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > +1, thanks to everyone who's invested time getting us to this > > > point. > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Tyler > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 10:33 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré < > > > > j...@nanthrax.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > First of all, I would like to thank the whole team, and > > > especially > > > > > > Davor > > > > > > > > for the great work and commitment to Apache and the > community. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course, a big +1 to move forward on graduation ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > JB > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 11/22/2016 07:19 PM, Davor Bonaci wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > > > > With all the progress we’ve had recently in Apache Beam, I > > > think > > > > it > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > time > > > > > > > > > we start the discussion about graduation as a new top-level > > > > project > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > Apache Software Foundation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Graduation means we are a self-sustaining and > self-governing > > > > > > community, > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > ready to be a full participant in the Apache Software > > > Foundation. > > > > > It > > > > > > > does > > > > > > > > > not imply that our community growth is complete or that a > > > > > particular > > > > > > > > level > > > > > > > > > of technical maturity has been reached, rather that we are > > on a > > > > > solid > > > > > > > > > trajectory in those areas. After graduation, we will still > > > > > > periodically > > > > > > > > > report to, and be overseen by, the ASF Board to ensure > > > continued > > > > > > growth > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > a healthy community. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Graduation is an important milestone for the project. It is > > > also > > > > > key > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > further grow the user community: many users (incorrectly) > see > > > > > > > incubation > > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > a sign of instability and are much less likely to consider > us > > > > for a > > > > > > > > > production use. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A way to think about graduation readiness is through the > > Apache > > > > > > > Maturity > > > > > > > > > Model [1]. I think we clearly satisfy all the requirements > > [2]. > > > > It > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > probably worth emphasizing the recent community growth: > over > > > each > > > > > of > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > past three months, no single organization contributing to > > Beam > > > > has > > > > > > had > > > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > > than ~50% of the unique contributors per month [2, see > > > > > assumptions]. > > > > > > > > That’s > > > > > > > > > a great statistic that shows how much we’ve grown our > > > diversity! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Process-wise, graduation consists of drafting a board > > > resolution, > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > > needs to identify the full Project Management Committee, > and > > > > > getting > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > approved by the community, the Incubator, and the Board. > > Within > > > > the > > > > > > > Beam
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduation to a top-level project
+1 You might even say I'm beaming with pride ;-) On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 11:58 AM, Kenneth Knowles wrote: > +1 !!! > > I especially love how the diversity of the community has contributed to the > conceptual growth and quality of Beam. I can't wait for more! > > On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 11:22 AM, Thomas Groh > wrote: > > > +1 > > > > It's been a thrilling experience thus far, and I'm excited for the > future. > > > > On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 11:07 AM, Aljoscha Krettek > > wrote: > > > > > +1 > > > > > > I'm quite enthusiastic about the growth of the community and the open > > > discussions! > > > > > > On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 at 19:51 Jason Kuster > invalid> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > An enthusiastic +1! > > > > > > > > In particular it's been really great to see the commitment and > interest > > > of > > > > the community in different kinds of testing. Between what we > currently > > > have > > > > on Jenkins and Travis and the in-progress work on IO integration > tests > > > and > > > > performance tests (plus, I'm sure, other things I'm not aware of) > we're > > > in > > > > a really good place. > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 10:49 AM, Amit Sela > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > +1, super exciting! > > > > > > > > > > Thanks to JB, Davor and the whole team for creating this > community. I > > > > think > > > > > we've achieved a lot in a short time. > > > > > > > > > > Amit. > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 22, 2016, 20:36 Tyler Akidau > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > +1, thanks to everyone who's invested time getting us to this > > point. > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > -Tyler > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 10:33 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré < > > > j...@nanthrax.net > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > First of all, I would like to thank the whole team, and > > especially > > > > > Davor > > > > > > > for the great work and commitment to Apache and the community. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course, a big +1 to move forward on graduation ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > JB > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 11/22/2016 07:19 PM, Davor Bonaci wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > > > With all the progress we’ve had recently in Apache Beam, I > > think > > > it > > > > > is > > > > > > > time > > > > > > > > we start the discussion about graduation as a new top-level > > > project > > > > > at > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > Apache Software Foundation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Graduation means we are a self-sustaining and self-governing > > > > > community, > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > ready to be a full participant in the Apache Software > > Foundation. > > > > It > > > > > > does > > > > > > > > not imply that our community growth is complete or that a > > > > particular > > > > > > > level > > > > > > > > of technical maturity has been reached, rather that we are > on a > > > > solid > > > > > > > > trajectory in those areas. After graduation, we will still > > > > > periodically > > > > > > > > report to, and be overseen by, the ASF Board to ensure > > continued > > > > > growth > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > a healthy community. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Graduation is an important milestone for the project. It is > > also > > > > key > > > > > to > > > > > > > > further grow the user community: many users (incorrectly) see > > > > > > incubation > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > a sign of instability and are much less likely to consider us > > > for a > > > > > > > > production use. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A way to think about graduation readiness is through the > Apache > > > > > > Maturity > > > > > > > > Model [1]. I think we clearly satisfy all the requirements > [2]. > > > It > > > > is > > > > > > > > probably worth emphasizing the recent community growth: over > > each > > > > of > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > past three months, no single organization contributing to > Beam > > > has > > > > > had > > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > than ~50% of the unique contributors per month [2, see > > > > assumptions]. > > > > > > > That’s > > > > > > > > a great statistic that shows how much we’ve grown our > > diversity! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Process-wise, graduation consists of drafting a board > > resolution, > > > > > which > > > > > > > > needs to identify the full Project Management Committee, and > > > > getting > > > > > it > > > > > > > > approved by the community, the Incubator, and the Board. > Within > > > the > > > > > > Beam > > > > > > > > community, most of these discussions and votes have to be on > > the > > > > > > private@ > > > > > > > > mailing list, but, as usual, we’ll try to keep dev@ updated > as > > > > much > > > > > as > > > > > > > > possible. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With that in mind, let’s use this discussion on dev@ for two > > > > things: > > > > > > > > * Collect additional data points on our progress that we m
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduation to a top-level project
+1 !!! I especially love how the diversity of the community has contributed to the conceptual growth and quality of Beam. I can't wait for more! On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 11:22 AM, Thomas Groh wrote: > +1 > > It's been a thrilling experience thus far, and I'm excited for the future. > > On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 11:07 AM, Aljoscha Krettek > wrote: > > > +1 > > > > I'm quite enthusiastic about the growth of the community and the open > > discussions! > > > > On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 at 19:51 Jason Kuster invalid> > > wrote: > > > > > An enthusiastic +1! > > > > > > In particular it's been really great to see the commitment and interest > > of > > > the community in different kinds of testing. Between what we currently > > have > > > on Jenkins and Travis and the in-progress work on IO integration tests > > and > > > performance tests (plus, I'm sure, other things I'm not aware of) we're > > in > > > a really good place. > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 10:49 AM, Amit Sela > > wrote: > > > > > > > +1, super exciting! > > > > > > > > Thanks to JB, Davor and the whole team for creating this community. I > > > think > > > > we've achieved a lot in a short time. > > > > > > > > Amit. > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 22, 2016, 20:36 Tyler Akidau > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > +1, thanks to everyone who's invested time getting us to this > point. > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > -Tyler > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 10:33 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré < > > j...@nanthrax.net > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > First of all, I would like to thank the whole team, and > especially > > > > Davor > > > > > > for the great work and commitment to Apache and the community. > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course, a big +1 to move forward on graduation ! > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > JB > > > > > > > > > > > > On 11/22/2016 07:19 PM, Davor Bonaci wrote: > > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > > With all the progress we’ve had recently in Apache Beam, I > think > > it > > > > is > > > > > > time > > > > > > > we start the discussion about graduation as a new top-level > > project > > > > at > > > > > > the > > > > > > > Apache Software Foundation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Graduation means we are a self-sustaining and self-governing > > > > community, > > > > > > and > > > > > > > ready to be a full participant in the Apache Software > Foundation. > > > It > > > > > does > > > > > > > not imply that our community growth is complete or that a > > > particular > > > > > > level > > > > > > > of technical maturity has been reached, rather that we are on a > > > solid > > > > > > > trajectory in those areas. After graduation, we will still > > > > periodically > > > > > > > report to, and be overseen by, the ASF Board to ensure > continued > > > > growth > > > > > > of > > > > > > > a healthy community. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Graduation is an important milestone for the project. It is > also > > > key > > > > to > > > > > > > further grow the user community: many users (incorrectly) see > > > > > incubation > > > > > > as > > > > > > > a sign of instability and are much less likely to consider us > > for a > > > > > > > production use. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A way to think about graduation readiness is through the Apache > > > > > Maturity > > > > > > > Model [1]. I think we clearly satisfy all the requirements [2]. > > It > > > is > > > > > > > probably worth emphasizing the recent community growth: over > each > > > of > > > > > the > > > > > > > past three months, no single organization contributing to Beam > > has > > > > had > > > > > > more > > > > > > > than ~50% of the unique contributors per month [2, see > > > assumptions]. > > > > > > That’s > > > > > > > a great statistic that shows how much we’ve grown our > diversity! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Process-wise, graduation consists of drafting a board > resolution, > > > > which > > > > > > > needs to identify the full Project Management Committee, and > > > getting > > > > it > > > > > > > approved by the community, the Incubator, and the Board. Within > > the > > > > > Beam > > > > > > > community, most of these discussions and votes have to be on > the > > > > > private@ > > > > > > > mailing list, but, as usual, we’ll try to keep dev@ updated as > > > much > > > > as > > > > > > > possible. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With that in mind, let’s use this discussion on dev@ for two > > > things: > > > > > > > * Collect additional data points on our progress that we may > want > > > to > > > > > > > present to the Incubator as a part of the proposal to accept > our > > > > > > graduation. > > > > > > > * Determine whether the community supports graduation. Please > > reply > > > > > +1/-1 > > > > > > > with any additional comments, as appropriate. I’d encourage > > > everyone > > > > to > > > > > > > participate -- regardless whether you are an occasional visitor > > or > > > > > have a > > > > > > > speci
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduation to a top-level project
+1 It's been a thrilling experience thus far, and I'm excited for the future. On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 11:07 AM, Aljoscha Krettek wrote: > +1 > > I'm quite enthusiastic about the growth of the community and the open > discussions! > > On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 at 19:51 Jason Kuster > wrote: > > > An enthusiastic +1! > > > > In particular it's been really great to see the commitment and interest > of > > the community in different kinds of testing. Between what we currently > have > > on Jenkins and Travis and the in-progress work on IO integration tests > and > > performance tests (plus, I'm sure, other things I'm not aware of) we're > in > > a really good place. > > > > On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 10:49 AM, Amit Sela > wrote: > > > > > +1, super exciting! > > > > > > Thanks to JB, Davor and the whole team for creating this community. I > > think > > > we've achieved a lot in a short time. > > > > > > Amit. > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 22, 2016, 20:36 Tyler Akidau > > > wrote: > > > > > > > +1, thanks to everyone who's invested time getting us to this point. > > :-) > > > > > > > > -Tyler > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 10:33 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré < > j...@nanthrax.net > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > First of all, I would like to thank the whole team, and especially > > > Davor > > > > > for the great work and commitment to Apache and the community. > > > > > > > > > > Of course, a big +1 to move forward on graduation ! > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > JB > > > > > > > > > > On 11/22/2016 07:19 PM, Davor Bonaci wrote: > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > With all the progress we’ve had recently in Apache Beam, I think > it > > > is > > > > > time > > > > > > we start the discussion about graduation as a new top-level > project > > > at > > > > > the > > > > > > Apache Software Foundation. > > > > > > > > > > > > Graduation means we are a self-sustaining and self-governing > > > community, > > > > > and > > > > > > ready to be a full participant in the Apache Software Foundation. > > It > > > > does > > > > > > not imply that our community growth is complete or that a > > particular > > > > > level > > > > > > of technical maturity has been reached, rather that we are on a > > solid > > > > > > trajectory in those areas. After graduation, we will still > > > periodically > > > > > > report to, and be overseen by, the ASF Board to ensure continued > > > growth > > > > > of > > > > > > a healthy community. > > > > > > > > > > > > Graduation is an important milestone for the project. It is also > > key > > > to > > > > > > further grow the user community: many users (incorrectly) see > > > > incubation > > > > > as > > > > > > a sign of instability and are much less likely to consider us > for a > > > > > > production use. > > > > > > > > > > > > A way to think about graduation readiness is through the Apache > > > > Maturity > > > > > > Model [1]. I think we clearly satisfy all the requirements [2]. > It > > is > > > > > > probably worth emphasizing the recent community growth: over each > > of > > > > the > > > > > > past three months, no single organization contributing to Beam > has > > > had > > > > > more > > > > > > than ~50% of the unique contributors per month [2, see > > assumptions]. > > > > > That’s > > > > > > a great statistic that shows how much we’ve grown our diversity! > > > > > > > > > > > > Process-wise, graduation consists of drafting a board resolution, > > > which > > > > > > needs to identify the full Project Management Committee, and > > getting > > > it > > > > > > approved by the community, the Incubator, and the Board. Within > the > > > > Beam > > > > > > community, most of these discussions and votes have to be on the > > > > private@ > > > > > > mailing list, but, as usual, we’ll try to keep dev@ updated as > > much > > > as > > > > > > possible. > > > > > > > > > > > > With that in mind, let’s use this discussion on dev@ for two > > things: > > > > > > * Collect additional data points on our progress that we may want > > to > > > > > > present to the Incubator as a part of the proposal to accept our > > > > > graduation. > > > > > > * Determine whether the community supports graduation. Please > reply > > > > +1/-1 > > > > > > with any additional comments, as appropriate. I’d encourage > > everyone > > > to > > > > > > participate -- regardless whether you are an occasional visitor > or > > > > have a > > > > > > specific role in the project -- we’d love to hear your > perspective. > > > > > > > > > > > > Data points so far: > > > > > > * Project’s maturity self-assessment [2]. > > > > > > * 1500 pull requests in incubation, which makes us one of the > most > > > > active > > > > > > project across all of ASF on this metric. > > > > > > * 3 releases, each driven by a different release manager. > > > > > > * 120+ individual contributors. > > > > > > * 3 new committers added, 2 of which aren’t from the largest > > > > > organization. > > > > >
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduation to a top-level project
+1 I would like to mention the welcoming, growing community and the focus on solid processes and testing. On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 11:07 AM, Aljoscha Krettek wrote: > +1 > > I'm quite enthusiastic about the growth of the community and the open > discussions! > > On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 at 19:51 Jason Kuster > wrote: > > > An enthusiastic +1! > > > > In particular it's been really great to see the commitment and interest > of > > the community in different kinds of testing. Between what we currently > have > > on Jenkins and Travis and the in-progress work on IO integration tests > and > > performance tests (plus, I'm sure, other things I'm not aware of) we're > in > > a really good place. > > > > On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 10:49 AM, Amit Sela > wrote: > > > > > +1, super exciting! > > > > > > Thanks to JB, Davor and the whole team for creating this community. I > > think > > > we've achieved a lot in a short time. > > > > > > Amit. > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 22, 2016, 20:36 Tyler Akidau > > > wrote: > > > > > > > +1, thanks to everyone who's invested time getting us to this point. > > :-) > > > > > > > > -Tyler > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 10:33 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré < > j...@nanthrax.net > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > First of all, I would like to thank the whole team, and especially > > > Davor > > > > > for the great work and commitment to Apache and the community. > > > > > > > > > > Of course, a big +1 to move forward on graduation ! > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > JB > > > > > > > > > > On 11/22/2016 07:19 PM, Davor Bonaci wrote: > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > With all the progress we’ve had recently in Apache Beam, I think > it > > > is > > > > > time > > > > > > we start the discussion about graduation as a new top-level > project > > > at > > > > > the > > > > > > Apache Software Foundation. > > > > > > > > > > > > Graduation means we are a self-sustaining and self-governing > > > community, > > > > > and > > > > > > ready to be a full participant in the Apache Software Foundation. > > It > > > > does > > > > > > not imply that our community growth is complete or that a > > particular > > > > > level > > > > > > of technical maturity has been reached, rather that we are on a > > solid > > > > > > trajectory in those areas. After graduation, we will still > > > periodically > > > > > > report to, and be overseen by, the ASF Board to ensure continued > > > growth > > > > > of > > > > > > a healthy community. > > > > > > > > > > > > Graduation is an important milestone for the project. It is also > > key > > > to > > > > > > further grow the user community: many users (incorrectly) see > > > > incubation > > > > > as > > > > > > a sign of instability and are much less likely to consider us > for a > > > > > > production use. > > > > > > > > > > > > A way to think about graduation readiness is through the Apache > > > > Maturity > > > > > > Model [1]. I think we clearly satisfy all the requirements [2]. > It > > is > > > > > > probably worth emphasizing the recent community growth: over each > > of > > > > the > > > > > > past three months, no single organization contributing to Beam > has > > > had > > > > > more > > > > > > than ~50% of the unique contributors per month [2, see > > assumptions]. > > > > > That’s > > > > > > a great statistic that shows how much we’ve grown our diversity! > > > > > > > > > > > > Process-wise, graduation consists of drafting a board resolution, > > > which > > > > > > needs to identify the full Project Management Committee, and > > getting > > > it > > > > > > approved by the community, the Incubator, and the Board. Within > the > > > > Beam > > > > > > community, most of these discussions and votes have to be on the > > > > private@ > > > > > > mailing list, but, as usual, we’ll try to keep dev@ updated as > > much > > > as > > > > > > possible. > > > > > > > > > > > > With that in mind, let’s use this discussion on dev@ for two > > things: > > > > > > * Collect additional data points on our progress that we may want > > to > > > > > > present to the Incubator as a part of the proposal to accept our > > > > > graduation. > > > > > > * Determine whether the community supports graduation. Please > reply > > > > +1/-1 > > > > > > with any additional comments, as appropriate. I’d encourage > > everyone > > > to > > > > > > participate -- regardless whether you are an occasional visitor > or > > > > have a > > > > > > specific role in the project -- we’d love to hear your > perspective. > > > > > > > > > > > > Data points so far: > > > > > > * Project’s maturity self-assessment [2]. > > > > > > * 1500 pull requests in incubation, which makes us one of the > most > > > > active > > > > > > project across all of ASF on this metric. > > > > > > * 3 releases, each driven by a different release manager. > > > > > > * 120+ individual contributors. > > > > > > * 3 new committers added, 2 of which aren’t from the largest > > >
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduation to a top-level project
+1, very exciting and looking forward. -- Pei On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 11:07 AM, Aljoscha Krettek wrote: > +1 > > I'm quite enthusiastic about the growth of the community and the open > discussions! > > On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 at 19:51 Jason Kuster > wrote: > > > An enthusiastic +1! > > > > In particular it's been really great to see the commitment and interest > of > > the community in different kinds of testing. Between what we currently > have > > on Jenkins and Travis and the in-progress work on IO integration tests > and > > performance tests (plus, I'm sure, other things I'm not aware of) we're > in > > a really good place. > > > > On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 10:49 AM, Amit Sela > wrote: > > > > > +1, super exciting! > > > > > > Thanks to JB, Davor and the whole team for creating this community. I > > think > > > we've achieved a lot in a short time. > > > > > > Amit. > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 22, 2016, 20:36 Tyler Akidau > > > wrote: > > > > > > > +1, thanks to everyone who's invested time getting us to this point. > > :-) > > > > > > > > -Tyler > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 10:33 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré < > j...@nanthrax.net > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > First of all, I would like to thank the whole team, and especially > > > Davor > > > > > for the great work and commitment to Apache and the community. > > > > > > > > > > Of course, a big +1 to move forward on graduation ! > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > JB > > > > > > > > > > On 11/22/2016 07:19 PM, Davor Bonaci wrote: > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > With all the progress we’ve had recently in Apache Beam, I think > it > > > is > > > > > time > > > > > > we start the discussion about graduation as a new top-level > project > > > at > > > > > the > > > > > > Apache Software Foundation. > > > > > > > > > > > > Graduation means we are a self-sustaining and self-governing > > > community, > > > > > and > > > > > > ready to be a full participant in the Apache Software Foundation. > > It > > > > does > > > > > > not imply that our community growth is complete or that a > > particular > > > > > level > > > > > > of technical maturity has been reached, rather that we are on a > > solid > > > > > > trajectory in those areas. After graduation, we will still > > > periodically > > > > > > report to, and be overseen by, the ASF Board to ensure continued > > > growth > > > > > of > > > > > > a healthy community. > > > > > > > > > > > > Graduation is an important milestone for the project. It is also > > key > > > to > > > > > > further grow the user community: many users (incorrectly) see > > > > incubation > > > > > as > > > > > > a sign of instability and are much less likely to consider us > for a > > > > > > production use. > > > > > > > > > > > > A way to think about graduation readiness is through the Apache > > > > Maturity > > > > > > Model [1]. I think we clearly satisfy all the requirements [2]. > It > > is > > > > > > probably worth emphasizing the recent community growth: over each > > of > > > > the > > > > > > past three months, no single organization contributing to Beam > has > > > had > > > > > more > > > > > > than ~50% of the unique contributors per month [2, see > > assumptions]. > > > > > That’s > > > > > > a great statistic that shows how much we’ve grown our diversity! > > > > > > > > > > > > Process-wise, graduation consists of drafting a board resolution, > > > which > > > > > > needs to identify the full Project Management Committee, and > > getting > > > it > > > > > > approved by the community, the Incubator, and the Board. Within > the > > > > Beam > > > > > > community, most of these discussions and votes have to be on the > > > > private@ > > > > > > mailing list, but, as usual, we’ll try to keep dev@ updated as > > much > > > as > > > > > > possible. > > > > > > > > > > > > With that in mind, let’s use this discussion on dev@ for two > > things: > > > > > > * Collect additional data points on our progress that we may want > > to > > > > > > present to the Incubator as a part of the proposal to accept our > > > > > graduation. > > > > > > * Determine whether the community supports graduation. Please > reply > > > > +1/-1 > > > > > > with any additional comments, as appropriate. I’d encourage > > everyone > > > to > > > > > > participate -- regardless whether you are an occasional visitor > or > > > > have a > > > > > > specific role in the project -- we’d love to hear your > perspective. > > > > > > > > > > > > Data points so far: > > > > > > * Project’s maturity self-assessment [2]. > > > > > > * 1500 pull requests in incubation, which makes us one of the > most > > > > active > > > > > > project across all of ASF on this metric. > > > > > > * 3 releases, each driven by a different release manager. > > > > > > * 120+ individual contributors. > > > > > > * 3 new committers added, 2 of which aren’t from the largest > > > > > organization. > > > > > > * 1027 issues created, 515 reso
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduation to a top-level project
+1 I'm quite enthusiastic about the growth of the community and the open discussions! On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 at 19:51 Jason Kuster wrote: > An enthusiastic +1! > > In particular it's been really great to see the commitment and interest of > the community in different kinds of testing. Between what we currently have > on Jenkins and Travis and the in-progress work on IO integration tests and > performance tests (plus, I'm sure, other things I'm not aware of) we're in > a really good place. > > On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 10:49 AM, Amit Sela wrote: > > > +1, super exciting! > > > > Thanks to JB, Davor and the whole team for creating this community. I > think > > we've achieved a lot in a short time. > > > > Amit. > > > > On Tue, Nov 22, 2016, 20:36 Tyler Akidau > > wrote: > > > > > +1, thanks to everyone who's invested time getting us to this point. > :-) > > > > > > -Tyler > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 10:33 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > First of all, I would like to thank the whole team, and especially > > Davor > > > > for the great work and commitment to Apache and the community. > > > > > > > > Of course, a big +1 to move forward on graduation ! > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > JB > > > > > > > > On 11/22/2016 07:19 PM, Davor Bonaci wrote: > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > With all the progress we’ve had recently in Apache Beam, I think it > > is > > > > time > > > > > we start the discussion about graduation as a new top-level project > > at > > > > the > > > > > Apache Software Foundation. > > > > > > > > > > Graduation means we are a self-sustaining and self-governing > > community, > > > > and > > > > > ready to be a full participant in the Apache Software Foundation. > It > > > does > > > > > not imply that our community growth is complete or that a > particular > > > > level > > > > > of technical maturity has been reached, rather that we are on a > solid > > > > > trajectory in those areas. After graduation, we will still > > periodically > > > > > report to, and be overseen by, the ASF Board to ensure continued > > growth > > > > of > > > > > a healthy community. > > > > > > > > > > Graduation is an important milestone for the project. It is also > key > > to > > > > > further grow the user community: many users (incorrectly) see > > > incubation > > > > as > > > > > a sign of instability and are much less likely to consider us for a > > > > > production use. > > > > > > > > > > A way to think about graduation readiness is through the Apache > > > Maturity > > > > > Model [1]. I think we clearly satisfy all the requirements [2]. It > is > > > > > probably worth emphasizing the recent community growth: over each > of > > > the > > > > > past three months, no single organization contributing to Beam has > > had > > > > more > > > > > than ~50% of the unique contributors per month [2, see > assumptions]. > > > > That’s > > > > > a great statistic that shows how much we’ve grown our diversity! > > > > > > > > > > Process-wise, graduation consists of drafting a board resolution, > > which > > > > > needs to identify the full Project Management Committee, and > getting > > it > > > > > approved by the community, the Incubator, and the Board. Within the > > > Beam > > > > > community, most of these discussions and votes have to be on the > > > private@ > > > > > mailing list, but, as usual, we’ll try to keep dev@ updated as > much > > as > > > > > possible. > > > > > > > > > > With that in mind, let’s use this discussion on dev@ for two > things: > > > > > * Collect additional data points on our progress that we may want > to > > > > > present to the Incubator as a part of the proposal to accept our > > > > graduation. > > > > > * Determine whether the community supports graduation. Please reply > > > +1/-1 > > > > > with any additional comments, as appropriate. I’d encourage > everyone > > to > > > > > participate -- regardless whether you are an occasional visitor or > > > have a > > > > > specific role in the project -- we’d love to hear your perspective. > > > > > > > > > > Data points so far: > > > > > * Project’s maturity self-assessment [2]. > > > > > * 1500 pull requests in incubation, which makes us one of the most > > > active > > > > > project across all of ASF on this metric. > > > > > * 3 releases, each driven by a different release manager. > > > > > * 120+ individual contributors. > > > > > * 3 new committers added, 2 of which aren’t from the largest > > > > organization. > > > > > * 1027 issues created, 515 resolved. > > > > > * 442 dev@ emails in October alone, sent by 51 individuals. > > > > > * 50 user@ emails in the last 30 days, sent by 22 individuals. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > Davor > > > > > > > > > > [1] http://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project- > > > > > maturity-model.html > > > > > [2] http://beam.incubator.apache.org/contribute/maturity-model/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Jean-Baptiste
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduation to a top-level project
An enthusiastic +1! In particular it's been really great to see the commitment and interest of the community in different kinds of testing. Between what we currently have on Jenkins and Travis and the in-progress work on IO integration tests and performance tests (plus, I'm sure, other things I'm not aware of) we're in a really good place. On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 10:49 AM, Amit Sela wrote: > +1, super exciting! > > Thanks to JB, Davor and the whole team for creating this community. I think > we've achieved a lot in a short time. > > Amit. > > On Tue, Nov 22, 2016, 20:36 Tyler Akidau > wrote: > > > +1, thanks to everyone who's invested time getting us to this point. :-) > > > > -Tyler > > > > On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 10:33 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré > > wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > First of all, I would like to thank the whole team, and especially > Davor > > > for the great work and commitment to Apache and the community. > > > > > > Of course, a big +1 to move forward on graduation ! > > > > > > Regards > > > JB > > > > > > On 11/22/2016 07:19 PM, Davor Bonaci wrote: > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > With all the progress we’ve had recently in Apache Beam, I think it > is > > > time > > > > we start the discussion about graduation as a new top-level project > at > > > the > > > > Apache Software Foundation. > > > > > > > > Graduation means we are a self-sustaining and self-governing > community, > > > and > > > > ready to be a full participant in the Apache Software Foundation. It > > does > > > > not imply that our community growth is complete or that a particular > > > level > > > > of technical maturity has been reached, rather that we are on a solid > > > > trajectory in those areas. After graduation, we will still > periodically > > > > report to, and be overseen by, the ASF Board to ensure continued > growth > > > of > > > > a healthy community. > > > > > > > > Graduation is an important milestone for the project. It is also key > to > > > > further grow the user community: many users (incorrectly) see > > incubation > > > as > > > > a sign of instability and are much less likely to consider us for a > > > > production use. > > > > > > > > A way to think about graduation readiness is through the Apache > > Maturity > > > > Model [1]. I think we clearly satisfy all the requirements [2]. It is > > > > probably worth emphasizing the recent community growth: over each of > > the > > > > past three months, no single organization contributing to Beam has > had > > > more > > > > than ~50% of the unique contributors per month [2, see assumptions]. > > > That’s > > > > a great statistic that shows how much we’ve grown our diversity! > > > > > > > > Process-wise, graduation consists of drafting a board resolution, > which > > > > needs to identify the full Project Management Committee, and getting > it > > > > approved by the community, the Incubator, and the Board. Within the > > Beam > > > > community, most of these discussions and votes have to be on the > > private@ > > > > mailing list, but, as usual, we’ll try to keep dev@ updated as much > as > > > > possible. > > > > > > > > With that in mind, let’s use this discussion on dev@ for two things: > > > > * Collect additional data points on our progress that we may want to > > > > present to the Incubator as a part of the proposal to accept our > > > graduation. > > > > * Determine whether the community supports graduation. Please reply > > +1/-1 > > > > with any additional comments, as appropriate. I’d encourage everyone > to > > > > participate -- regardless whether you are an occasional visitor or > > have a > > > > specific role in the project -- we’d love to hear your perspective. > > > > > > > > Data points so far: > > > > * Project’s maturity self-assessment [2]. > > > > * 1500 pull requests in incubation, which makes us one of the most > > active > > > > project across all of ASF on this metric. > > > > * 3 releases, each driven by a different release manager. > > > > * 120+ individual contributors. > > > > * 3 new committers added, 2 of which aren’t from the largest > > > organization. > > > > * 1027 issues created, 515 resolved. > > > > * 442 dev@ emails in October alone, sent by 51 individuals. > > > > * 50 user@ emails in the last 30 days, sent by 22 individuals. > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > Davor > > > > > > > > [1] http://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project- > > > > maturity-model.html > > > > [2] http://beam.incubator.apache.org/contribute/maturity-model/ > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Jean-Baptiste Onofré > > > jbono...@apache.org > > > http://blog.nanthrax.net > > > Talend - http://www.talend.com > > > > > > -- --- Jason Kuster Apache Beam (Incubating) / Google Cloud Dataflow
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduation to a top-level project
+1, super exciting! Thanks to JB, Davor and the whole team for creating this community. I think we've achieved a lot in a short time. Amit. On Tue, Nov 22, 2016, 20:36 Tyler Akidau wrote: > +1, thanks to everyone who's invested time getting us to this point. :-) > > -Tyler > > On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 10:33 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré > wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > First of all, I would like to thank the whole team, and especially Davor > > for the great work and commitment to Apache and the community. > > > > Of course, a big +1 to move forward on graduation ! > > > > Regards > > JB > > > > On 11/22/2016 07:19 PM, Davor Bonaci wrote: > > > Hi everyone, > > > With all the progress we’ve had recently in Apache Beam, I think it is > > time > > > we start the discussion about graduation as a new top-level project at > > the > > > Apache Software Foundation. > > > > > > Graduation means we are a self-sustaining and self-governing community, > > and > > > ready to be a full participant in the Apache Software Foundation. It > does > > > not imply that our community growth is complete or that a particular > > level > > > of technical maturity has been reached, rather that we are on a solid > > > trajectory in those areas. After graduation, we will still periodically > > > report to, and be overseen by, the ASF Board to ensure continued growth > > of > > > a healthy community. > > > > > > Graduation is an important milestone for the project. It is also key to > > > further grow the user community: many users (incorrectly) see > incubation > > as > > > a sign of instability and are much less likely to consider us for a > > > production use. > > > > > > A way to think about graduation readiness is through the Apache > Maturity > > > Model [1]. I think we clearly satisfy all the requirements [2]. It is > > > probably worth emphasizing the recent community growth: over each of > the > > > past three months, no single organization contributing to Beam has had > > more > > > than ~50% of the unique contributors per month [2, see assumptions]. > > That’s > > > a great statistic that shows how much we’ve grown our diversity! > > > > > > Process-wise, graduation consists of drafting a board resolution, which > > > needs to identify the full Project Management Committee, and getting it > > > approved by the community, the Incubator, and the Board. Within the > Beam > > > community, most of these discussions and votes have to be on the > private@ > > > mailing list, but, as usual, we’ll try to keep dev@ updated as much as > > > possible. > > > > > > With that in mind, let’s use this discussion on dev@ for two things: > > > * Collect additional data points on our progress that we may want to > > > present to the Incubator as a part of the proposal to accept our > > graduation. > > > * Determine whether the community supports graduation. Please reply > +1/-1 > > > with any additional comments, as appropriate. I’d encourage everyone to > > > participate -- regardless whether you are an occasional visitor or > have a > > > specific role in the project -- we’d love to hear your perspective. > > > > > > Data points so far: > > > * Project’s maturity self-assessment [2]. > > > * 1500 pull requests in incubation, which makes us one of the most > active > > > project across all of ASF on this metric. > > > * 3 releases, each driven by a different release manager. > > > * 120+ individual contributors. > > > * 3 new committers added, 2 of which aren’t from the largest > > organization. > > > * 1027 issues created, 515 resolved. > > > * 442 dev@ emails in October alone, sent by 51 individuals. > > > * 50 user@ emails in the last 30 days, sent by 22 individuals. > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > Davor > > > > > > [1] http://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project- > > > maturity-model.html > > > [2] http://beam.incubator.apache.org/contribute/maturity-model/ > > > > > > > -- > > Jean-Baptiste Onofré > > jbono...@apache.org > > http://blog.nanthrax.net > > Talend - http://www.talend.com > > >
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduation to a top-level project
+1, thanks to everyone who's invested time getting us to this point. :-) -Tyler On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 10:33 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote: > Hi, > > First of all, I would like to thank the whole team, and especially Davor > for the great work and commitment to Apache and the community. > > Of course, a big +1 to move forward on graduation ! > > Regards > JB > > On 11/22/2016 07:19 PM, Davor Bonaci wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > With all the progress we’ve had recently in Apache Beam, I think it is > time > > we start the discussion about graduation as a new top-level project at > the > > Apache Software Foundation. > > > > Graduation means we are a self-sustaining and self-governing community, > and > > ready to be a full participant in the Apache Software Foundation. It does > > not imply that our community growth is complete or that a particular > level > > of technical maturity has been reached, rather that we are on a solid > > trajectory in those areas. After graduation, we will still periodically > > report to, and be overseen by, the ASF Board to ensure continued growth > of > > a healthy community. > > > > Graduation is an important milestone for the project. It is also key to > > further grow the user community: many users (incorrectly) see incubation > as > > a sign of instability and are much less likely to consider us for a > > production use. > > > > A way to think about graduation readiness is through the Apache Maturity > > Model [1]. I think we clearly satisfy all the requirements [2]. It is > > probably worth emphasizing the recent community growth: over each of the > > past three months, no single organization contributing to Beam has had > more > > than ~50% of the unique contributors per month [2, see assumptions]. > That’s > > a great statistic that shows how much we’ve grown our diversity! > > > > Process-wise, graduation consists of drafting a board resolution, which > > needs to identify the full Project Management Committee, and getting it > > approved by the community, the Incubator, and the Board. Within the Beam > > community, most of these discussions and votes have to be on the private@ > > mailing list, but, as usual, we’ll try to keep dev@ updated as much as > > possible. > > > > With that in mind, let’s use this discussion on dev@ for two things: > > * Collect additional data points on our progress that we may want to > > present to the Incubator as a part of the proposal to accept our > graduation. > > * Determine whether the community supports graduation. Please reply +1/-1 > > with any additional comments, as appropriate. I’d encourage everyone to > > participate -- regardless whether you are an occasional visitor or have a > > specific role in the project -- we’d love to hear your perspective. > > > > Data points so far: > > * Project’s maturity self-assessment [2]. > > * 1500 pull requests in incubation, which makes us one of the most active > > project across all of ASF on this metric. > > * 3 releases, each driven by a different release manager. > > * 120+ individual contributors. > > * 3 new committers added, 2 of which aren’t from the largest > organization. > > * 1027 issues created, 515 resolved. > > * 442 dev@ emails in October alone, sent by 51 individuals. > > * 50 user@ emails in the last 30 days, sent by 22 individuals. > > > > Thanks! > > > > Davor > > > > [1] http://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project- > > maturity-model.html > > [2] http://beam.incubator.apache.org/contribute/maturity-model/ > > > > -- > Jean-Baptiste Onofré > jbono...@apache.org > http://blog.nanthrax.net > Talend - http://www.talend.com >
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduation to a top-level project
Hi, First of all, I would like to thank the whole team, and especially Davor for the great work and commitment to Apache and the community. Of course, a big +1 to move forward on graduation ! Regards JB On 11/22/2016 07:19 PM, Davor Bonaci wrote: Hi everyone, With all the progress we’ve had recently in Apache Beam, I think it is time we start the discussion about graduation as a new top-level project at the Apache Software Foundation. Graduation means we are a self-sustaining and self-governing community, and ready to be a full participant in the Apache Software Foundation. It does not imply that our community growth is complete or that a particular level of technical maturity has been reached, rather that we are on a solid trajectory in those areas. After graduation, we will still periodically report to, and be overseen by, the ASF Board to ensure continued growth of a healthy community. Graduation is an important milestone for the project. It is also key to further grow the user community: many users (incorrectly) see incubation as a sign of instability and are much less likely to consider us for a production use. A way to think about graduation readiness is through the Apache Maturity Model [1]. I think we clearly satisfy all the requirements [2]. It is probably worth emphasizing the recent community growth: over each of the past three months, no single organization contributing to Beam has had more than ~50% of the unique contributors per month [2, see assumptions]. That’s a great statistic that shows how much we’ve grown our diversity! Process-wise, graduation consists of drafting a board resolution, which needs to identify the full Project Management Committee, and getting it approved by the community, the Incubator, and the Board. Within the Beam community, most of these discussions and votes have to be on the private@ mailing list, but, as usual, we’ll try to keep dev@ updated as much as possible. With that in mind, let’s use this discussion on dev@ for two things: * Collect additional data points on our progress that we may want to present to the Incubator as a part of the proposal to accept our graduation. * Determine whether the community supports graduation. Please reply +1/-1 with any additional comments, as appropriate. I’d encourage everyone to participate -- regardless whether you are an occasional visitor or have a specific role in the project -- we’d love to hear your perspective. Data points so far: * Project’s maturity self-assessment [2]. * 1500 pull requests in incubation, which makes us one of the most active project across all of ASF on this metric. * 3 releases, each driven by a different release manager. * 120+ individual contributors. * 3 new committers added, 2 of which aren’t from the largest organization. * 1027 issues created, 515 resolved. * 442 dev@ emails in October alone, sent by 51 individuals. * 50 user@ emails in the last 30 days, sent by 22 individuals. Thanks! Davor [1] http://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project- maturity-model.html [2] http://beam.incubator.apache.org/contribute/maturity-model/ -- Jean-Baptiste Onofré jbono...@apache.org http://blog.nanthrax.net Talend - http://www.talend.com
[DISCUSS] Graduation to a top-level project
Hi everyone, With all the progress we’ve had recently in Apache Beam, I think it is time we start the discussion about graduation as a new top-level project at the Apache Software Foundation. Graduation means we are a self-sustaining and self-governing community, and ready to be a full participant in the Apache Software Foundation. It does not imply that our community growth is complete or that a particular level of technical maturity has been reached, rather that we are on a solid trajectory in those areas. After graduation, we will still periodically report to, and be overseen by, the ASF Board to ensure continued growth of a healthy community. Graduation is an important milestone for the project. It is also key to further grow the user community: many users (incorrectly) see incubation as a sign of instability and are much less likely to consider us for a production use. A way to think about graduation readiness is through the Apache Maturity Model [1]. I think we clearly satisfy all the requirements [2]. It is probably worth emphasizing the recent community growth: over each of the past three months, no single organization contributing to Beam has had more than ~50% of the unique contributors per month [2, see assumptions]. That’s a great statistic that shows how much we’ve grown our diversity! Process-wise, graduation consists of drafting a board resolution, which needs to identify the full Project Management Committee, and getting it approved by the community, the Incubator, and the Board. Within the Beam community, most of these discussions and votes have to be on the private@ mailing list, but, as usual, we’ll try to keep dev@ updated as much as possible. With that in mind, let’s use this discussion on dev@ for two things: * Collect additional data points on our progress that we may want to present to the Incubator as a part of the proposal to accept our graduation. * Determine whether the community supports graduation. Please reply +1/-1 with any additional comments, as appropriate. I’d encourage everyone to participate -- regardless whether you are an occasional visitor or have a specific role in the project -- we’d love to hear your perspective. Data points so far: * Project’s maturity self-assessment [2]. * 1500 pull requests in incubation, which makes us one of the most active project across all of ASF on this metric. * 3 releases, each driven by a different release manager. * 120+ individual contributors. * 3 new committers added, 2 of which aren’t from the largest organization. * 1027 issues created, 515 resolved. * 442 dev@ emails in October alone, sent by 51 individuals. * 50 user@ emails in the last 30 days, sent by 22 individuals. Thanks! Davor [1] http://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project- maturity-model.html [2] http://beam.incubator.apache.org/contribute/maturity-model/
