Re: Rough roadmap for 4.0

2016-11-15 Thread Ariel Weisberg
Hi,

I think one additional issue to add to the pile is CASSANDRA-7544 "Allow
storage port to be configurable per node"

I think no matter what we land on implementation wise it will only
possible to make this change in a major release as it will means change
to the system schema as well as internode messaging protocol. 

Having this properly done and reviewed by January is optimistic. I think
it wouldn't slip past February/March.

Ariel

On Tue, Nov 15, 2016, at 11:34 PM, Nate McCall wrote:
> Agreed. As long as we have a goal I don't see why we have to adhere to
> arbitrary date for 4.0.
> 
> On Nov 16, 2016 1:45 PM, "Aleksey Yeschenko" 
> wrote:
> 
> > I’ll comment on the broader issue, but right now I want to elaborate on
> > 3.11/January/arbitrary cutoff date.
> >
> > Doesn’t matter what the original plan was. We should continue with 3.X
> > until all the 4.0 blockers have been
> > committed - and there are quite a few of them remaining yet.
> >
> > So given all the holidays, and the tickets remaining, I’ll personally be
> > surprised if 4.0 comes out before
> > February/March and 3.13/3.14. Nor do I think it’s an issue.
> >
> > —
> > AY
> >
> > On 16 November 2016 at 00:39:03, Mick Semb Wever (m...@thelastpickle.com)
> > wrote:
> >
> > On 4 November 2016 at 13:47, Nate McCall  wrote:
> >
> > > Specifically, this should be "new stuff that could/will break things"
> > > given we are upping
> > > the major version.
> > >
> >
> >
> > How does this co-ordinate with the tick-tock versioning¹ leading up to the
> > 4.0 release?
> >
> > To just stop tick-tock and then say yeehaa let's jam in all the breaking
> > changes we really want seems to be throwing away some of the learnt wisdom,
> > and not doing a very sane transition from tick-tock to
> > features/testing/stable². I really hope all this is done in a way that
> > continues us down the path towards a stable-master.
> >
> > For example, are we fixing the release of 4.0 to November? or continuing
> > tick-tocks until we complete the 4.0 roadmap? or starting the
> > features/testing/stable branching approach with 3.11?
> >
> >
> > Background:
> > ¹) Sylvain wrote in an earlier thread titled "A Home for 4.0"
> >
> > > And as 4.0 was initially supposed to come after 3.11, which is coming,
> > it's probably time to have a home for those tickets.
> >
> > ²) The new versioning scheme slated for 4.0, per the "Proposal - 3.5.1"
> > thread
> >
> > > three branch plan with “features”, “testing”, and “stable” starting with
> > 4.0?
> >
> >
> > Mick
> >


Re: Rough roadmap for 4.0

2016-11-15 Thread Nate McCall
Agreed. As long as we have a goal I don't see why we have to adhere to
arbitrary date for 4.0.

On Nov 16, 2016 1:45 PM, "Aleksey Yeschenko"  wrote:

> I’ll comment on the broader issue, but right now I want to elaborate on
> 3.11/January/arbitrary cutoff date.
>
> Doesn’t matter what the original plan was. We should continue with 3.X
> until all the 4.0 blockers have been
> committed - and there are quite a few of them remaining yet.
>
> So given all the holidays, and the tickets remaining, I’ll personally be
> surprised if 4.0 comes out before
> February/March and 3.13/3.14. Nor do I think it’s an issue.
>
> —
> AY
>
> On 16 November 2016 at 00:39:03, Mick Semb Wever (m...@thelastpickle.com)
> wrote:
>
> On 4 November 2016 at 13:47, Nate McCall  wrote:
>
> > Specifically, this should be "new stuff that could/will break things"
> > given we are upping
> > the major version.
> >
>
>
> How does this co-ordinate with the tick-tock versioning¹ leading up to the
> 4.0 release?
>
> To just stop tick-tock and then say yeehaa let's jam in all the breaking
> changes we really want seems to be throwing away some of the learnt wisdom,
> and not doing a very sane transition from tick-tock to
> features/testing/stable². I really hope all this is done in a way that
> continues us down the path towards a stable-master.
>
> For example, are we fixing the release of 4.0 to November? or continuing
> tick-tocks until we complete the 4.0 roadmap? or starting the
> features/testing/stable branching approach with 3.11?
>
>
> Background:
> ¹) Sylvain wrote in an earlier thread titled "A Home for 4.0"
>
> > And as 4.0 was initially supposed to come after 3.11, which is coming,
> it's probably time to have a home for those tickets.
>
> ²) The new versioning scheme slated for 4.0, per the "Proposal - 3.5.1"
> thread
>
> > three branch plan with “features”, “testing”, and “stable” starting with
> 4.0?
>
>
> Mick
>


Re: Rough roadmap for 4.0

2016-11-15 Thread Mick Semb Wever
On 16 November 2016 at 11:45, Aleksey Yeschenko 
wrote:

>
> Doesn’t matter what the original plan was. We should continue with 3.X
> until all the 4.0 blockers have been
> committed - and there are quite a few of them remaining yet.




Thanks for the clarity, the quick reply I was hoping for :-)


Re: Rough roadmap for 4.0

2016-11-15 Thread Aleksey Yeschenko
I’ll comment on the broader issue, but right now I want to elaborate on 
3.11/January/arbitrary cutoff date.

Doesn’t matter what the original plan was. We should continue with 3.X until 
all the 4.0 blockers have been
committed - and there are quite a few of them remaining yet.

So given all the holidays, and the tickets remaining, I’ll personally be 
surprised if 4.0 comes out before
February/March and 3.13/3.14. Nor do I think it’s an issue. 

—
AY

On 16 November 2016 at 00:39:03, Mick Semb Wever (m...@thelastpickle.com) wrote:

On 4 November 2016 at 13:47, Nate McCall  wrote:  

> Specifically, this should be "new stuff that could/will break things"  
> given we are upping  
> the major version.  
>  


How does this co-ordinate with the tick-tock versioning¹ leading up to the  
4.0 release?  

To just stop tick-tock and then say yeehaa let's jam in all the breaking  
changes we really want seems to be throwing away some of the learnt wisdom,  
and not doing a very sane transition from tick-tock to  
features/testing/stable². I really hope all this is done in a way that  
continues us down the path towards a stable-master.  

For example, are we fixing the release of 4.0 to November? or continuing  
tick-tocks until we complete the 4.0 roadmap? or starting the  
features/testing/stable branching approach with 3.11?  


Background:  
¹) Sylvain wrote in an earlier thread titled "A Home for 4.0"  

> And as 4.0 was initially supposed to come after 3.11, which is coming,  
it's probably time to have a home for those tickets.  

²) The new versioning scheme slated for 4.0, per the "Proposal - 3.5.1"  
thread  

> three branch plan with “features”, “testing”, and “stable” starting with  
4.0?  


Mick  


Re: Rough roadmap for 4.0

2016-11-15 Thread Mick Semb Wever
On 4 November 2016 at 13:47, Nate McCall  wrote:

> Specifically, this should be "new stuff that could/will break things"
> given we are upping
> the major version.
>


How does this co-ordinate with the tick-tock versioning¹ leading up to the
4.0 release?

To just stop tick-tock and then say yeehaa let's jam in all the breaking
changes we really want seems to be throwing away some of the learnt wisdom,
and not doing a very sane transition from tick-tock to
features/testing/stable². I really hope all this is done in a way that
continues us down the path towards a stable-master.

For example, are we fixing the release of 4.0 to November? or continuing
tick-tocks until we complete the 4.0 roadmap? or starting the
features/testing/stable branching approach with 3.11?


Background:
 ¹) Sylvain wrote in an earlier thread titled "A Home for 4.0"

> And as 4.0 was initially supposed to come after 3.11, which is coming,
it's probably time to have a home for those tickets.

 ²) The new versioning scheme slated for 4.0, per the "Proposal - 3.5.1"
thread

> three branch plan with “features”, “testing”, and “stable” starting with
4.0?


Mick


[GitHub] cassandra pull request #84: removed local bind for outbound connections

2016-11-15 Thread mmajercik
Github user mmajercik closed the pull request at:

https://github.com/apache/cassandra/pull/84


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