Re: GitHub PR ticket spam

[kurt greaves]

+1

> Or perhaps we should require committers to summarise in the comments.  For
> most tickets, perhaps just stating ’nits from GitHub comments’.  But for
> any complex tickets, summarising the conclusions of any unexpected logical
> or structural discussion would be really helpful for posterity.  This has
> always been true, but especially so now, given how hard the replicated
> comments are to parse.

Yeah this. I think design discussion should continue to at least be
summarised in the comments. The worklog is still going to be painful to
parse, so should really only be used for the minor details and a record
IMO. I don't think we need to make this a hard requirement though, people
already do this so as long as we keep doing it setting the example should
be good enough.


On 7 August 2018 at 02:52, Benedict Elliott Smith 
wrote:

> Also +1
>
> It might perhaps be nice to (just once) have ASF Bot comment that a GitHub
> discussion has been replicated to the worklog? In the Arrow example, for
> instance, it isn’t immediately obvious that there are any worklog comments
> to look at.
>
> Or perhaps we should require committers to summarise in the comments.  For
> most tickets, perhaps just stating ’nits from GitHub comments’.  But for
> any complex tickets, summarising the conclusions of any unexpected logical
> or structural discussion would be really helpful for posterity.  This has
> always been true, but especially so now, given how hard the replicated
> comments are to parse.
>
>
> > On 6 Aug 2018, at 17:18, Jeremiah D Jordan 
> wrote:
> >
> > Oh nice.  I like the idea of keeping it but moving it to the worklog
> tab.  +1 on that from me.
> >
> >> On Aug 6, 2018, at 5:34 AM, Stefan Podkowinski  wrote:
> >>
> >> +1 for worklog option
> >>
> >> Here's an example ticket from Arrow, where they seem to be using the
> >> same approach:
> >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__issues.
> apache.org_jira_browse_ARROW-2D2583&d=DwICaQ&c=adz96Xi0w1RHqtPMowiL2g&r=
> CNZK3RiJDLqhsZDG6FQGnXn8WyPRCQhp4x_uBICNC0g&m=wYZwHSze6YITTXgzOrEvfr_
> onojahtjeJRzGAt8ByzM&s=KWt0xsOv9ESaieg432edGvPhktGkWHxVuLAdNyORiYY&e= <
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-
> 3A__issues.apache.org_jira_browse_ARROW-2D2583&d=DwICaQ&
> c=adz96Xi0w1RHqtPMowiL2g&r=CNZK3RiJDLqhsZDG6FQGnXn8WyPRCQhp4x_uBICNC0g&m=
> wYZwHSze6YITTXgzOrEvfr_onojahtjeJRzGAt8ByzM&s=
> KWt0xsOv9ESaieg432edGvPhktGkWHxVuLAdNyORiYY&e=>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 05.08.2018 09:56, Mick Semb Wever wrote:
>  I find this a bit annoying while subscribed to commits@,
>  especially since we created pr@ for these kind of messages. Also I
> don't
>  really see any value in mirroring all github comments to the ticket.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I agree with you Stefan. It makes the jira tickets quite painful to
> read. And I tend to make comments on the commits rather than the PRs so to
> avoid spamming back to the jira ticket.
> >>>
> >>> But the linking to the PR is invaluable. And I can see Ariel's point
> about a chronological historical archive.
> >>>
> >>>
>  Ponies would be for this to be mirrored to a tab
>  separate from comments in JIRA.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Ariel, that would be the the "worklog" option.
> >>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__
> reference.apache.org_pmc_github&d=DwICaQ&c=adz96Xi0w1RHqtPMowiL2g&r=
> CNZK3RiJDLqhsZDG6FQGnXn8WyPRCQhp4x_uBICNC0g&m=wYZwHSze6YITTXgzOrEvfr_
> onojahtjeJRzGAt8ByzM&s=1lWQawAO9fITzakpnmdzERuCbZs6IGQsUH_EEIMCMqs&e= <
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-
> 3A__reference.apache.org_pmc_github&d=DwICaQ&c=adz96Xi0w1RHqtPMowiL2g&r=
> CNZK3RiJDLqhsZDG6FQGnXn8WyPRCQhp4x_uBICNC0g&m=wYZwHSze6YITTXgzOrEvfr_
> onojahtjeJRzGAt8ByzM&s=1lWQawAO9fITzakpnmdzERuCbZs6IGQsUH_EEIMCMqs&e=>
> >>>
> >>> If this works for you, and others, I can open a INFRA to switch to
> worklog.
> >>> wdyt?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Mick.
> >>>
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Re: GitHub PR ticket spam

[Jordan West]

+1 (nb) for the worklog approach.

Jordan

On Mon, Aug 6, 2018 at 4:53 PM dinesh.jo...@yahoo.com.INVALID
 wrote:

> +1 for preserving it as worklog.
> Dinesh
> P.S.: Apologies for the github spam :-)
> On Monday, August 6, 2018, 3:09:28 PM PDT, Mick Semb Wever <
> m...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>
> >
> > Great idea. +1 to moving it to the work log.
> >
>
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-16879
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Re: GitHub PR ticket spam

[dinesh.jo...@yahoo.com.INVALID]

+1 for preserving it as worklog.
Dinesh 
P.S.: Apologies for the github spam :-)
On Monday, August 6, 2018, 3:09:28 PM PDT, Mick Semb Wever 
 wrote:  
 
 
> 
> Great idea. +1 to moving it to the work log.
> 


https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-16879 


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Re: GitHub PR ticket spam

[Mick Semb Wever]

> 
> Great idea. +1 to moving it to the work log.
> 


https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-16879 


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Re: GitHub PR ticket spam

[Benedict Elliott Smith]

Also +1

It might perhaps be nice to (just once) have ASF Bot comment that a GitHub 
discussion has been replicated to the worklog? In the Arrow example, for 
instance, it isn’t immediately obvious that there are any worklog comments to 
look at.

Or perhaps we should require committers to summarise in the comments.  For most 
tickets, perhaps just stating ’nits from GitHub comments’.  But for any complex 
tickets, summarising the conclusions of any unexpected logical or structural 
discussion would be really helpful for posterity.  This has always been true, 
but especially so now, given how hard the replicated comments are to parse.


> On 6 Aug 2018, at 17:18, Jeremiah D Jordan  wrote:
> 
> Oh nice.  I like the idea of keeping it but moving it to the worklog tab.  +1 
> on that from me.
> 
>> On Aug 6, 2018, at 5:34 AM, Stefan Podkowinski  wrote:
>> 
>> +1 for worklog option
>> 
>> Here's an example ticket from Arrow, where they seem to be using the
>> same approach:
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__issues.apache.org_jira_browse_ARROW-2D2583&d=DwICaQ&c=adz96Xi0w1RHqtPMowiL2g&r=CNZK3RiJDLqhsZDG6FQGnXn8WyPRCQhp4x_uBICNC0g&m=wYZwHSze6YITTXgzOrEvfr_onojahtjeJRzGAt8ByzM&s=KWt0xsOv9ESaieg432edGvPhktGkWHxVuLAdNyORiYY&e=
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 05.08.2018 09:56, Mick Semb Wever wrote:
 I find this a bit annoying while subscribed to commits@,
 especially since we created pr@ for these kind of messages. Also I don't
 really see any value in mirroring all github comments to the ticket.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I agree with you Stefan. It makes the jira tickets quite painful to read. 
>>> And I tend to make comments on the commits rather than the PRs so to avoid 
>>> spamming back to the jira ticket.
>>> 
>>> But the linking to the PR is invaluable. And I can see Ariel's point about 
>>> a chronological historical archive.
>>> 
>>> 
 Ponies would be for this to be mirrored to a tab 
 separate from comments in JIRA.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Ariel, that would be the the "worklog" option.
>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__reference.apache.org_pmc_github&d=DwICaQ&c=adz96Xi0w1RHqtPMowiL2g&r=CNZK3RiJDLqhsZDG6FQGnXn8WyPRCQhp4x_uBICNC0g&m=wYZwHSze6YITTXgzOrEvfr_onojahtjeJRzGAt8ByzM&s=1lWQawAO9fITzakpnmdzERuCbZs6IGQsUH_EEIMCMqs&e=
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> If this works for you, and others, I can open a INFRA to switch to worklog.
>>> wdyt?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Mick.
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Re: GitHub PR ticket spam

[Jonathan Haddad]

+1 to worklog

On Mon, Aug 6, 2018 at 9:44 AM Ariel Weisberg  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Great idea. +1 to moving it to the work log.
>
> Thanks,
> Ariel
>
> On Mon, Aug 6, 2018, at 12:40 PM, Aleksey Yeshchenko wrote:
> > Nice indeed. I assume it also doesn’t spam commits@ when done this way,
> > in which case double +1 from me.
> >
> > —
> > AY
> >
> > On 6 August 2018 at 17:18:36, Jeremiah D Jordan
> > (jeremiah.jor...@gmail.com) wrote:
> >
> > Oh nice. I like the idea of keeping it but moving it to the worklog tab.
> > +1 on that from me.
> >
> > > On Aug 6, 2018, at 5:34 AM, Stefan Podkowinski 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > +1 for worklog option
> > >
> > > Here's an example ticket from Arrow, where they seem to be using the
> > > same approach:
> > >
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__issues.apache.org_jira_browse_ARROW-2D2583&d=DwICaQ&c=adz96Xi0w1RHqtPMowiL2g&r=CNZK3RiJDLqhsZDG6FQGnXn8WyPRCQhp4x_uBICNC0g&m=wYZwHSze6YITTXgzOrEvfr_onojahtjeJRzGAt8ByzM&s=KWt0xsOv9ESaieg432edGvPhktGkWHxVuLAdNyORiYY&e=
> <
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__issues.apache.org_jira_browse_ARROW-2D2583&d=DwICaQ&c=adz96Xi0w1RHqtPMowiL2g&r=CNZK3RiJDLqhsZDG6FQGnXn8WyPRCQhp4x_uBICNC0g&m=wYZwHSze6YITTXgzOrEvfr_onojahtjeJRzGAt8ByzM&s=KWt0xsOv9ESaieg432edGvPhktGkWHxVuLAdNyORiYY&e=>
>
> > >
> > >
> > > On 05.08.2018 09:56, Mick Semb Wever wrote:
> > >>> I find this a bit annoying while subscribed to commits@,
> > >>> especially since we created pr@ for these kind of messages. Also I
> don't
> > >>> really see any value in mirroring all github comments to the
> ticket.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> I agree with you Stefan. It makes the jira tickets quite painful to
> read. And I tend to make comments on the commits rather than the PRs so to
> avoid spamming back to the jira ticket.
> > >>
> > >> But the linking to the PR is invaluable. And I can see Ariel's point
> about a chronological historical archive.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> Ponies would be for this to be mirrored to a tab
> > >>> separate from comments in JIRA.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Ariel, that would be the the "worklog" option.
> > >>
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__reference.apache.org_pmc_github&d=DwICaQ&c=adz96Xi0w1RHqtPMowiL2g&r=CNZK3RiJDLqhsZDG6FQGnXn8WyPRCQhp4x_uBICNC0g&m=wYZwHSze6YITTXgzOrEvfr_onojahtjeJRzGAt8ByzM&s=1lWQawAO9fITzakpnmdzERuCbZs6IGQsUH_EEIMCMqs&e=
> <
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__reference.apache.org_pmc_github&d=DwICaQ&c=adz96Xi0w1RHqtPMowiL2g&r=CNZK3RiJDLqhsZDG6FQGnXn8WyPRCQhp4x_uBICNC0g&m=wYZwHSze6YITTXgzOrEvfr_onojahtjeJRzGAt8ByzM&s=1lWQawAO9fITzakpnmdzERuCbZs6IGQsUH_EEIMCMqs&e=>
>
> > >>
> > >> If this works for you, and others, I can open a INFRA to switch to
> worklog.
> > >> wdyt?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Mick.
> > >>
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Re: GitHub PR ticket spam

[Ariel Weisberg]

Hi,

Great idea. +1 to moving it to the work log.

Thanks,
Ariel

On Mon, Aug 6, 2018, at 12:40 PM, Aleksey Yeshchenko wrote:
> Nice indeed. I assume it also doesn’t spam commits@ when done this way, 
> in which case double +1 from me.
> 
> —
> AY
> 
> On 6 August 2018 at 17:18:36, Jeremiah D Jordan 
> (jeremiah.jor...@gmail.com) wrote:
> 
> Oh nice. I like the idea of keeping it but moving it to the worklog tab. 
> +1 on that from me.  
> 
> > On Aug 6, 2018, at 5:34 AM, Stefan Podkowinski  wrote:  
> >  
> > +1 for worklog option  
> >  
> > Here's an example ticket from Arrow, where they seem to be using the  
> > same approach:  
> > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__issues.apache.org_jira_browse_ARROW-2D2583&d=DwICaQ&c=adz96Xi0w1RHqtPMowiL2g&r=CNZK3RiJDLqhsZDG6FQGnXn8WyPRCQhp4x_uBICNC0g&m=wYZwHSze6YITTXgzOrEvfr_onojahtjeJRzGAt8ByzM&s=KWt0xsOv9ESaieg432edGvPhktGkWHxVuLAdNyORiYY&e=
> >  
> > 
> >   
> >  
> >  
> > On 05.08.2018 09:56, Mick Semb Wever wrote:  
> >>> I find this a bit annoying while subscribed to commits@,  
> >>> especially since we created pr@ for these kind of messages. Also I don't  
> >>> really see any value in mirroring all github comments to the ticket.  
> >>  
> >>  
> >> I agree with you Stefan. It makes the jira tickets quite painful to read. 
> >> And I tend to make comments on the commits rather than the PRs so to avoid 
> >> spamming back to the jira ticket.  
> >>  
> >> But the linking to the PR is invaluable. And I can see Ariel's point about 
> >> a chronological historical archive.  
> >>  
> >>  
> >>> Ponies would be for this to be mirrored to a tab  
> >>> separate from comments in JIRA.  
> >>  
> >>  
> >> Ariel, that would be the the "worklog" option.  
> >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__reference.apache.org_pmc_github&d=DwICaQ&c=adz96Xi0w1RHqtPMowiL2g&r=CNZK3RiJDLqhsZDG6FQGnXn8WyPRCQhp4x_uBICNC0g&m=wYZwHSze6YITTXgzOrEvfr_onojahtjeJRzGAt8ByzM&s=1lWQawAO9fITzakpnmdzERuCbZs6IGQsUH_EEIMCMqs&e=
> >>  
> >> 
> >>   
> >>  
> >> If this works for you, and others, I can open a INFRA to switch to 
> >> worklog.  
> >> wdyt?  
> >>  
> >>  
> >> Mick.  
> >>  
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Re: GitHub PR ticket spam

[Aleksey Yeshchenko]

Nice indeed. I assume it also doesn’t spam commits@ when done this way, in 
which case double +1 from me.

—
AY

On 6 August 2018 at 17:18:36, Jeremiah D Jordan (jeremiah.jor...@gmail.com) 
wrote:

Oh nice. I like the idea of keeping it but moving it to the worklog tab. +1 on 
that from me.  

> On Aug 6, 2018, at 5:34 AM, Stefan Podkowinski  wrote:  
>  
> +1 for worklog option  
>  
> Here's an example ticket from Arrow, where they seem to be using the  
> same approach:  
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__issues.apache.org_jira_browse_ARROW-2D2583&d=DwICaQ&c=adz96Xi0w1RHqtPMowiL2g&r=CNZK3RiJDLqhsZDG6FQGnXn8WyPRCQhp4x_uBICNC0g&m=wYZwHSze6YITTXgzOrEvfr_onojahtjeJRzGAt8ByzM&s=KWt0xsOv9ESaieg432edGvPhktGkWHxVuLAdNyORiYY&e=
>  
> 
>   
>  
>  
> On 05.08.2018 09:56, Mick Semb Wever wrote:  
>>> I find this a bit annoying while subscribed to commits@,  
>>> especially since we created pr@ for these kind of messages. Also I don't  
>>> really see any value in mirroring all github comments to the ticket.  
>>  
>>  
>> I agree with you Stefan. It makes the jira tickets quite painful to read. 
>> And I tend to make comments on the commits rather than the PRs so to avoid 
>> spamming back to the jira ticket.  
>>  
>> But the linking to the PR is invaluable. And I can see Ariel's point about a 
>> chronological historical archive.  
>>  
>>  
>>> Ponies would be for this to be mirrored to a tab  
>>> separate from comments in JIRA.  
>>  
>>  
>> Ariel, that would be the the "worklog" option.  
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__reference.apache.org_pmc_github&d=DwICaQ&c=adz96Xi0w1RHqtPMowiL2g&r=CNZK3RiJDLqhsZDG6FQGnXn8WyPRCQhp4x_uBICNC0g&m=wYZwHSze6YITTXgzOrEvfr_onojahtjeJRzGAt8ByzM&s=1lWQawAO9fITzakpnmdzERuCbZs6IGQsUH_EEIMCMqs&e=
>>  
>> 
>>   
>>  
>> If this works for you, and others, I can open a INFRA to switch to worklog.  
>> wdyt?  
>>  
>>  
>> Mick.  
>>  
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Re: GitHub PR ticket spam

[Jeremiah D Jordan]

Oh nice.  I like the idea of keeping it but moving it to the worklog tab.  +1 
on that from me.

> On Aug 6, 2018, at 5:34 AM, Stefan Podkowinski  wrote:
> 
> +1 for worklog option
> 
> Here's an example ticket from Arrow, where they seem to be using the
> same approach:
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__issues.apache.org_jira_browse_ARROW-2D2583&d=DwICaQ&c=adz96Xi0w1RHqtPMowiL2g&r=CNZK3RiJDLqhsZDG6FQGnXn8WyPRCQhp4x_uBICNC0g&m=wYZwHSze6YITTXgzOrEvfr_onojahtjeJRzGAt8ByzM&s=KWt0xsOv9ESaieg432edGvPhktGkWHxVuLAdNyORiYY&e=
>  
> 
> 
> 
> On 05.08.2018 09:56, Mick Semb Wever wrote:
>>> I find this a bit annoying while subscribed to commits@,
>>> especially since we created pr@ for these kind of messages. Also I don't
>>> really see any value in mirroring all github comments to the ticket.
>> 
>> 
>> I agree with you Stefan. It makes the jira tickets quite painful to read. 
>> And I tend to make comments on the commits rather than the PRs so to avoid 
>> spamming back to the jira ticket.
>> 
>> But the linking to the PR is invaluable. And I can see Ariel's point about a 
>> chronological historical archive.
>> 
>> 
>>> Ponies would be for this to be mirrored to a tab 
>>> separate from comments in JIRA.
>> 
>> 
>> Ariel, that would be the the "worklog" option.
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__reference.apache.org_pmc_github&d=DwICaQ&c=adz96Xi0w1RHqtPMowiL2g&r=CNZK3RiJDLqhsZDG6FQGnXn8WyPRCQhp4x_uBICNC0g&m=wYZwHSze6YITTXgzOrEvfr_onojahtjeJRzGAt8ByzM&s=1lWQawAO9fITzakpnmdzERuCbZs6IGQsUH_EEIMCMqs&e=
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> If this works for you, and others, I can open a INFRA to switch to worklog.
>> wdyt?
>> 
>> 
>> Mick.
>> 
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Re: GitHub PR ticket spam

[Stefan Podkowinski]

+1 for worklog option

Here's an example ticket from Arrow, where they seem to be using the
same approach:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ARROW-2583


On 05.08.2018 09:56, Mick Semb Wever wrote:
>> I find this a bit annoying while subscribed to commits@,
>> especially since we created pr@ for these kind of messages. Also I don't
>> really see any value in mirroring all github comments to the ticket.
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> I agree with you Stefan. It makes the jira tickets quite painful to read. And 
> I tend to make comments on the commits rather than the PRs so to avoid 
> spamming back to the jira ticket.
> 
> But the linking to the PR is invaluable. And I can see Ariel's point about a 
> chronological historical archive.
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> 
>> Ponies would be for this to be mirrored to a tab 
>> separate from comments in JIRA.
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> Ariel, that would be the the "worklog" option.
> https://reference.apache.org/pmc/github
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> If this works for you, and others, I can open a INFRA to switch to worklog.
> wdyt?
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> 
> Mick.
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