[RESULT] [VOTE] Accept GoCQL driver donation and begin incubation process
With four binding +1s, 2 +0s, and no -1s, and 6 non-binding +1s, the vote passes. To re-iterate, resolving the license concerns is part of bringing software into the project, not a reason to avoid trying. The incubator PMC will have no problem sending a -1 if we cant get everything together. Regardless, I very much appreciate the discussion and opinions of everyone. The non-binding votes are particularly helpful in solidifying community agreement, IMO, so keep those coming. Cheers, -Nate - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Accept GoCQL driver donation and begin incubation process
My +1 was under the assumption that the current maintainer wanted to continue with the project and would be brought in to do that along with the code. But my +1 also has no meaning in the ASF meritocracy as I am neither a committer or a PMC member ;). It just expresses my opinion as a long standing member of the community that I think it is fine to bring the current GoCQL driver and its main contributors into the Apache Cassandra project. I was not asking others to do the work, I was assuming the current people doing the work on said driver would continue to work on it. -Jeremiah > On Sep 12, 2018, at 12:55 PM, Jonathan Haddad wrote: > > I'm +0, and I share the same concerns as Sylvain. > > For those of you that have +1'ed, are you planning on contributing to the > driver? Docs, code, QA? It's easy to throw a +1 down to make the driver > the responsibility of the project if you're asking others to do the work. > I vote this way because I already know I won't contribute to it and it's > irresponsible to vote something in if I have no intent on helping maintain > it. > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 10:45 AM Sumanth Pasupuleti > wrote: > >> +1 >> >> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 10:37 AM Dinesh Joshi >> wrote: >> >>> +1 >>> >>> Dinesh >>> On Sep 12, 2018, at 10:23 AM, Jaydeep Chovatia < >>> chovatia.jayd...@gmail.com> wrote: +1 On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 10:00 AM Roopa Tangirala wrote: > +1 > > > *Regards,* > > *Roopa Tangirala* > > Engineering Manager CDE > > *(408) 438-3156 - mobile* > > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 8:51 AM Sylvain Lebresne > wrote: > >> -0 >> >> The project seems to have a hard time getting on top of reviewing his >> backlog >> of 'patch available' issues, so that I'm skeptical adopting more code >>> to >> maintain is the thing the project needs the most right now. Besides, >>> I'm >> also >> generally skeptical that augmenting the scope of a project makes it > better: >> I feel >> keeping this project focused on the core server is better. I see >> risks >> here, but >> the upsides haven't been made very clear for me, even for end users: >>> yes, >> it >> may provide a tiny bit more clarity around which Golang driver to >>> choose > by >> default, but I'm not sure users are that lost, and I think there is >>> other >> ways to >> solve that if we really want. >> >> Anyway, I reckon I may be overly pessimistic here and it's not that > strong >> of >> an objection if a large majority is on-board, so giving my opinion >> but > not >> opposing. >> >> -- >> Sylvain >> >> >> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 5:36 PM Jeremiah D Jordan < >> jeremiah.jor...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> +1 >>> >>> But I also think getting this through incubation might take a >> while/be >>> impossible given how large the contributor list looks… >>> On Sep 12, 2018, at 10:22 AM, Jeff Jirsa wrote: +1 (Incubation looks like it may be challenging to get acceptance from > all >>> existing contributors, though) -- Jeff Jirsa > On Sep 12, 2018, at 8:12 AM, Nate McCall > wrote: > > This will be the same process used for dtest. We will need to walk > this through the incubator per the process outlined here: > > >>> >> > >>> >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__incubator.apache.org_guides_ip-5Fclearance.html=DwIFAg=adz96Xi0w1RHqtPMowiL2g=CNZK3RiJDLqhsZDG6FQGnXn8WyPRCQhp4x_uBICNC0g=g-MlYFZVJ7j5Dj_ZfPfa0Ik8Nxco7QsJhTG1TnJH7xI=rk5T_t1HZY6PAhN5XgflBhfEtNrcZkVTIvQxixDlw9o= > > Pending the outcome of this vote, we will create the JIRA issues >> for > tracking and after we go through the process, and discuss adding > committers in a separate thread (we need to do this atomically > anyway > per general ASF committer adding processes). > > Thanks, > -Nate > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org > >> - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org >>> >>> >>> >> - >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Accept GoCQL driver donation and begin incubation process
No, doesn’t change it. Any code donation has to go through the incubation process, which is where all the legal stuff about it being donated is handled. This would be like the dtest repo which was donated a little while back, and followed this same process. -Jeremiah > On Sep 12, 2018, at 3:05 PM, kurt greaves wrote: > > In the previous thread we seemed to come to the conclusion it would be > under the same project with same committers/pmc. I don't know if sending it > through incubation changes that? > > On Wed., 12 Sep. 2018, 13:03 Jeremy Hanna, > wrote: > >> I don’t know if others have this same question, but what does accepting >> the gocql driver donation mean? It becomes a full Apache project separate >> from Cassandra and there exists a separate set of PMC members and such? Or >> does it become part of the Cassandra project itself? From Sylvain and >> Jon’s responses, it seems like it’s the latter. I have some memories of >> the Apache Extras and some things that lived in there for a time and those >> were eventually phased out so I didn’t know if that applied to this >> discussion as well. >> >>> On Sep 12, 2018, at 10:12 AM, Nate McCall wrote: >>> >>> This will be the same process used for dtest. We will need to walk >>> this through the incubator per the process outlined here: >>> >>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__incubator.apache.org_guides_ip-5Fclearance.html=DwIFaQ=adz96Xi0w1RHqtPMowiL2g=CNZK3RiJDLqhsZDG6FQGnXn8WyPRCQhp4x_uBICNC0g=4y7Q74EaQxyVFLgnLFlWg-O71SM3eibG4Z0uQTS2Pr4=iDEkpoH0oy1goQ_ohPa05DdMdH_zbEztl_-EfMzs-Gc= >>> >>> Pending the outcome of this vote, we will create the JIRA issues for >>> tracking and after we go through the process, and discuss adding >>> committers in a separate thread (we need to do this atomically anyway >>> per general ASF committer adding processes). >>> >>> Thanks, >>> -Nate >>> >>> - >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org >>> >> >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org >> >> - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Accept GoCQL driver donation and begin incubation process
In the previous thread we seemed to come to the conclusion it would be under the same project with same committers/pmc. I don't know if sending it through incubation changes that? On Wed., 12 Sep. 2018, 13:03 Jeremy Hanna, wrote: > I don’t know if others have this same question, but what does accepting > the gocql driver donation mean? It becomes a full Apache project separate > from Cassandra and there exists a separate set of PMC members and such? Or > does it become part of the Cassandra project itself? From Sylvain and > Jon’s responses, it seems like it’s the latter. I have some memories of > the Apache Extras and some things that lived in there for a time and those > were eventually phased out so I didn’t know if that applied to this > discussion as well. > > > On Sep 12, 2018, at 10:12 AM, Nate McCall wrote: > > > > This will be the same process used for dtest. We will need to walk > > this through the incubator per the process outlined here: > > > > https://incubator.apache.org/guides/ip_clearance.html > > > > Pending the outcome of this vote, we will create the JIRA issues for > > tracking and after we go through the process, and discuss adding > > committers in a separate thread (we need to do this atomically anyway > > per general ASF committer adding processes). > > > > Thanks, > > -Nate > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org > >
Re: [VOTE] Accept GoCQL driver donation and begin incubation process
+1. I do share the same concerns as Sylvain, but I think it's important we get more driver experience/exposure in the project, as it seems lacking since datastax moved off, and I don't think this will be something we can just leave to the userbase to solve. I'm definitely looking to contribute as well. On Wed., 12 Sep. 2018, 12:48 Ben Bromhead, wrote: > +1 > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 1:55 PM Jonathan Haddad wrote: > > > I'm +0, and I share the same concerns as Sylvain. > > > > For those of you that have +1'ed, are you planning on contributing to the > > driver? Docs, code, QA? It's easy to throw a +1 down to make the driver > > the responsibility of the project if you're asking others to do the work. > > I vote this way because I already know I won't contribute to it and it's > > irresponsible to vote something in if I have no intent on helping > maintain > > it. > > > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 10:45 AM Sumanth Pasupuleti > > wrote: > > > > > +1 > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 10:37 AM Dinesh Joshi > > > wrote: > > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > > > Dinesh > > > > > > > > > On Sep 12, 2018, at 10:23 AM, Jaydeep Chovatia < > > > > chovatia.jayd...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 10:00 AM Roopa Tangirala > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> +1 > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> *Regards,* > > > > >> > > > > >> *Roopa Tangirala* > > > > >> > > > > >> Engineering Manager CDE > > > > >> > > > > >> *(408) 438-3156 - mobile* > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 8:51 AM Sylvain Lebresne < > > lebre...@gmail.com> > > > > >> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >>> -0 > > > > >>> > > > > >>> The project seems to have a hard time getting on top of reviewing > > his > > > > >>> backlog > > > > >>> of 'patch available' issues, so that I'm skeptical adopting more > > code > > > > to > > > > >>> maintain is the thing the project needs the most right now. > > Besides, > > > > I'm > > > > >>> also > > > > >>> generally skeptical that augmenting the scope of a project makes > it > > > > >> better: > > > > >>> I feel > > > > >>> keeping this project focused on the core server is better. I see > > > risks > > > > >>> here, but > > > > >>> the upsides haven't been made very clear for me, even for end > > users: > > > > yes, > > > > >>> it > > > > >>> may provide a tiny bit more clarity around which Golang driver to > > > > choose > > > > >> by > > > > >>> default, but I'm not sure users are that lost, and I think there > is > > > > other > > > > >>> ways to > > > > >>> solve that if we really want. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Anyway, I reckon I may be overly pessimistic here and it's not > that > > > > >> strong > > > > >>> of > > > > >>> an objection if a large majority is on-board, so giving my > opinion > > > but > > > > >> not > > > > >>> opposing. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> -- > > > > >>> Sylvain > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 5:36 PM Jeremiah D Jordan < > > > > >>> jeremiah.jor...@gmail.com> > > > > >>> wrote: > > > > >>> > > > > +1 > > > > > > > > But I also think getting this through incubation might take a > > > while/be > > > > impossible given how large the contributor list looks… > > > > > > > > > On Sep 12, 2018, at 10:22 AM, Jeff Jirsa > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > > > > > (Incubation looks like it may be challenging to get acceptance > > from > > > > >> all > > > > existing contributors, though) > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Jeff Jirsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> On Sep 12, 2018, at 8:12 AM, Nate McCall > > > > >> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> This will be the same process used for dtest. We will need to > > walk > > > > >> this through the incubator per the process outlined here: > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__incubator.apache.org_guides_ip-5Fclearance.html=DwIFAg=adz96Xi0w1RHqtPMowiL2g=CNZK3RiJDLqhsZDG6FQGnXn8WyPRCQhp4x_uBICNC0g=g-MlYFZVJ7j5Dj_ZfPfa0Ik8Nxco7QsJhTG1TnJH7xI=rk5T_t1HZY6PAhN5XgflBhfEtNrcZkVTIvQxixDlw9o= > > > > >> > > > > >> Pending the outcome of this vote, we will create the JIRA > issues > > > for > > > > >> tracking and after we go through the process, and discuss > adding > > > > >> committers in a separate thread (we need to do this atomically > > > > >> anyway > > > > >> per general ASF committer adding processes). > > > > >> > > > > >> Thanks, > > > > >> -Nate > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > - > > > > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org > > > > >> For additional commands, e-mail: > dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: [VOTE] Accept GoCQL driver donation and begin incubation process
I don’t know if others have this same question, but what does accepting the gocql driver donation mean? It becomes a full Apache project separate from Cassandra and there exists a separate set of PMC members and such? Or does it become part of the Cassandra project itself? From Sylvain and Jon’s responses, it seems like it’s the latter. I have some memories of the Apache Extras and some things that lived in there for a time and those were eventually phased out so I didn’t know if that applied to this discussion as well. > On Sep 12, 2018, at 10:12 AM, Nate McCall wrote: > > This will be the same process used for dtest. We will need to walk > this through the incubator per the process outlined here: > > https://incubator.apache.org/guides/ip_clearance.html > > Pending the outcome of this vote, we will create the JIRA issues for > tracking and after we go through the process, and discuss adding > committers in a separate thread (we need to do this atomically anyway > per general ASF committer adding processes). > > Thanks, > -Nate > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Accept GoCQL driver donation and begin incubation process
+1 On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 1:55 PM Jonathan Haddad wrote: > I'm +0, and I share the same concerns as Sylvain. > > For those of you that have +1'ed, are you planning on contributing to the > driver? Docs, code, QA? It's easy to throw a +1 down to make the driver > the responsibility of the project if you're asking others to do the work. > I vote this way because I already know I won't contribute to it and it's > irresponsible to vote something in if I have no intent on helping maintain > it. > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 10:45 AM Sumanth Pasupuleti > wrote: > > > +1 > > > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 10:37 AM Dinesh Joshi > > wrote: > > > > > +1 > > > > > > Dinesh > > > > > > > On Sep 12, 2018, at 10:23 AM, Jaydeep Chovatia < > > > chovatia.jayd...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 10:00 AM Roopa Tangirala > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > >> +1 > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> *Regards,* > > > >> > > > >> *Roopa Tangirala* > > > >> > > > >> Engineering Manager CDE > > > >> > > > >> *(408) 438-3156 - mobile* > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 8:51 AM Sylvain Lebresne < > lebre...@gmail.com> > > > >> wrote: > > > >> > > > >>> -0 > > > >>> > > > >>> The project seems to have a hard time getting on top of reviewing > his > > > >>> backlog > > > >>> of 'patch available' issues, so that I'm skeptical adopting more > code > > > to > > > >>> maintain is the thing the project needs the most right now. > Besides, > > > I'm > > > >>> also > > > >>> generally skeptical that augmenting the scope of a project makes it > > > >> better: > > > >>> I feel > > > >>> keeping this project focused on the core server is better. I see > > risks > > > >>> here, but > > > >>> the upsides haven't been made very clear for me, even for end > users: > > > yes, > > > >>> it > > > >>> may provide a tiny bit more clarity around which Golang driver to > > > choose > > > >> by > > > >>> default, but I'm not sure users are that lost, and I think there is > > > other > > > >>> ways to > > > >>> solve that if we really want. > > > >>> > > > >>> Anyway, I reckon I may be overly pessimistic here and it's not that > > > >> strong > > > >>> of > > > >>> an objection if a large majority is on-board, so giving my opinion > > but > > > >> not > > > >>> opposing. > > > >>> > > > >>> -- > > > >>> Sylvain > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 5:36 PM Jeremiah D Jordan < > > > >>> jeremiah.jor...@gmail.com> > > > >>> wrote: > > > >>> > > > +1 > > > > > > But I also think getting this through incubation might take a > > while/be > > > impossible given how large the contributor list looks… > > > > > > > On Sep 12, 2018, at 10:22 AM, Jeff Jirsa > wrote: > > > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > > > (Incubation looks like it may be challenging to get acceptance > from > > > >> all > > > existing contributors, though) > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Jeff Jirsa > > > > > > > > > > > >> On Sep 12, 2018, at 8:12 AM, Nate McCall > > > >> wrote: > > > >> > > > >> This will be the same process used for dtest. We will need to > walk > > > >> this through the incubator per the process outlined here: > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > >>> > > > >> > > > > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__incubator.apache.org_guides_ip-5Fclearance.html=DwIFAg=adz96Xi0w1RHqtPMowiL2g=CNZK3RiJDLqhsZDG6FQGnXn8WyPRCQhp4x_uBICNC0g=g-MlYFZVJ7j5Dj_ZfPfa0Ik8Nxco7QsJhTG1TnJH7xI=rk5T_t1HZY6PAhN5XgflBhfEtNrcZkVTIvQxixDlw9o= > > > >> > > > >> Pending the outcome of this vote, we will create the JIRA issues > > for > > > >> tracking and after we go through the process, and discuss adding > > > >> committers in a separate thread (we need to do this atomically > > > >> anyway > > > >> per general ASF committer adding processes). > > > >> > > > >> Thanks, > > > >> -Nate > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > - > > > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org > > > >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > - > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail:
Re: [VOTE] Accept GoCQL driver donation and begin incubation process
I'm +0, and I share the same concerns as Sylvain. For those of you that have +1'ed, are you planning on contributing to the driver? Docs, code, QA? It's easy to throw a +1 down to make the driver the responsibility of the project if you're asking others to do the work. I vote this way because I already know I won't contribute to it and it's irresponsible to vote something in if I have no intent on helping maintain it. On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 10:45 AM Sumanth Pasupuleti wrote: > +1 > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 10:37 AM Dinesh Joshi > wrote: > > > +1 > > > > Dinesh > > > > > On Sep 12, 2018, at 10:23 AM, Jaydeep Chovatia < > > chovatia.jayd...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 10:00 AM Roopa Tangirala > > > wrote: > > > > > >> +1 > > >> > > >> > > >> *Regards,* > > >> > > >> *Roopa Tangirala* > > >> > > >> Engineering Manager CDE > > >> > > >> *(408) 438-3156 - mobile* > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 8:51 AM Sylvain Lebresne > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >>> -0 > > >>> > > >>> The project seems to have a hard time getting on top of reviewing his > > >>> backlog > > >>> of 'patch available' issues, so that I'm skeptical adopting more code > > to > > >>> maintain is the thing the project needs the most right now. Besides, > > I'm > > >>> also > > >>> generally skeptical that augmenting the scope of a project makes it > > >> better: > > >>> I feel > > >>> keeping this project focused on the core server is better. I see > risks > > >>> here, but > > >>> the upsides haven't been made very clear for me, even for end users: > > yes, > > >>> it > > >>> may provide a tiny bit more clarity around which Golang driver to > > choose > > >> by > > >>> default, but I'm not sure users are that lost, and I think there is > > other > > >>> ways to > > >>> solve that if we really want. > > >>> > > >>> Anyway, I reckon I may be overly pessimistic here and it's not that > > >> strong > > >>> of > > >>> an objection if a large majority is on-board, so giving my opinion > but > > >> not > > >>> opposing. > > >>> > > >>> -- > > >>> Sylvain > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 5:36 PM Jeremiah D Jordan < > > >>> jeremiah.jor...@gmail.com> > > >>> wrote: > > >>> > > +1 > > > > But I also think getting this through incubation might take a > while/be > > impossible given how large the contributor list looks… > > > > > On Sep 12, 2018, at 10:22 AM, Jeff Jirsa wrote: > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > (Incubation looks like it may be challenging to get acceptance from > > >> all > > existing contributors, though) > > > > > > -- > > > Jeff Jirsa > > > > > > > > >> On Sep 12, 2018, at 8:12 AM, Nate McCall > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >> This will be the same process used for dtest. We will need to walk > > >> this through the incubator per the process outlined here: > > >> > > >> > > > > >>> > > >> > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__incubator.apache.org_guides_ip-5Fclearance.html=DwIFAg=adz96Xi0w1RHqtPMowiL2g=CNZK3RiJDLqhsZDG6FQGnXn8WyPRCQhp4x_uBICNC0g=g-MlYFZVJ7j5Dj_ZfPfa0Ik8Nxco7QsJhTG1TnJH7xI=rk5T_t1HZY6PAhN5XgflBhfEtNrcZkVTIvQxixDlw9o= > > >> > > >> Pending the outcome of this vote, we will create the JIRA issues > for > > >> tracking and after we go through the process, and discuss adding > > >> committers in a separate thread (we need to do this atomically > > >> anyway > > >> per general ASF committer adding processes). > > >> > > >> Thanks, > > >> -Nate > > >> > > >> > > >> - > > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org > > >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org > > >> > > > > > > > - > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org > > > > > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org > > > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org > > > > > -- Jon Haddad http://www.rustyrazorblade.com twitter: rustyrazorblade
Re: [VOTE] Accept GoCQL driver donation and begin incubation process
+1 On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 10:37 AM Dinesh Joshi wrote: > +1 > > Dinesh > > > On Sep 12, 2018, at 10:23 AM, Jaydeep Chovatia < > chovatia.jayd...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > +1 > > > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 10:00 AM Roopa Tangirala > > wrote: > > > >> +1 > >> > >> > >> *Regards,* > >> > >> *Roopa Tangirala* > >> > >> Engineering Manager CDE > >> > >> *(408) 438-3156 - mobile* > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 8:51 AM Sylvain Lebresne > >> wrote: > >> > >>> -0 > >>> > >>> The project seems to have a hard time getting on top of reviewing his > >>> backlog > >>> of 'patch available' issues, so that I'm skeptical adopting more code > to > >>> maintain is the thing the project needs the most right now. Besides, > I'm > >>> also > >>> generally skeptical that augmenting the scope of a project makes it > >> better: > >>> I feel > >>> keeping this project focused on the core server is better. I see risks > >>> here, but > >>> the upsides haven't been made very clear for me, even for end users: > yes, > >>> it > >>> may provide a tiny bit more clarity around which Golang driver to > choose > >> by > >>> default, but I'm not sure users are that lost, and I think there is > other > >>> ways to > >>> solve that if we really want. > >>> > >>> Anyway, I reckon I may be overly pessimistic here and it's not that > >> strong > >>> of > >>> an objection if a large majority is on-board, so giving my opinion but > >> not > >>> opposing. > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Sylvain > >>> > >>> > >>> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 5:36 PM Jeremiah D Jordan < > >>> jeremiah.jor...@gmail.com> > >>> wrote: > >>> > +1 > > But I also think getting this through incubation might take a while/be > impossible given how large the contributor list looks… > > > On Sep 12, 2018, at 10:22 AM, Jeff Jirsa wrote: > > > > +1 > > > > (Incubation looks like it may be challenging to get acceptance from > >> all > existing contributors, though) > > > > -- > > Jeff Jirsa > > > > > >> On Sep 12, 2018, at 8:12 AM, Nate McCall > >> wrote: > >> > >> This will be the same process used for dtest. We will need to walk > >> this through the incubator per the process outlined here: > >> > >> > > >>> > >> > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__incubator.apache.org_guides_ip-5Fclearance.html=DwIFAg=adz96Xi0w1RHqtPMowiL2g=CNZK3RiJDLqhsZDG6FQGnXn8WyPRCQhp4x_uBICNC0g=g-MlYFZVJ7j5Dj_ZfPfa0Ik8Nxco7QsJhTG1TnJH7xI=rk5T_t1HZY6PAhN5XgflBhfEtNrcZkVTIvQxixDlw9o= > >> > >> Pending the outcome of this vote, we will create the JIRA issues for > >> tracking and after we go through the process, and discuss adding > >> committers in a separate thread (we need to do this atomically > >> anyway > >> per general ASF committer adding processes). > >> > >> Thanks, > >> -Nate > >> > >> > >> - > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org > >> > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org > > > >>> > >> > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org > >
Re: [VOTE] Accept GoCQL driver donation and begin incubation process
+1 Dinesh > On Sep 12, 2018, at 10:23 AM, Jaydeep Chovatia > wrote: > > +1 > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 10:00 AM Roopa Tangirala > wrote: > >> +1 >> >> >> *Regards,* >> >> *Roopa Tangirala* >> >> Engineering Manager CDE >> >> *(408) 438-3156 - mobile* >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 8:51 AM Sylvain Lebresne >> wrote: >> >>> -0 >>> >>> The project seems to have a hard time getting on top of reviewing his >>> backlog >>> of 'patch available' issues, so that I'm skeptical adopting more code to >>> maintain is the thing the project needs the most right now. Besides, I'm >>> also >>> generally skeptical that augmenting the scope of a project makes it >> better: >>> I feel >>> keeping this project focused on the core server is better. I see risks >>> here, but >>> the upsides haven't been made very clear for me, even for end users: yes, >>> it >>> may provide a tiny bit more clarity around which Golang driver to choose >> by >>> default, but I'm not sure users are that lost, and I think there is other >>> ways to >>> solve that if we really want. >>> >>> Anyway, I reckon I may be overly pessimistic here and it's not that >> strong >>> of >>> an objection if a large majority is on-board, so giving my opinion but >> not >>> opposing. >>> >>> -- >>> Sylvain >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 5:36 PM Jeremiah D Jordan < >>> jeremiah.jor...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> +1 But I also think getting this through incubation might take a while/be impossible given how large the contributor list looks… > On Sep 12, 2018, at 10:22 AM, Jeff Jirsa wrote: > > +1 > > (Incubation looks like it may be challenging to get acceptance from >> all existing contributors, though) > > -- > Jeff Jirsa > > >> On Sep 12, 2018, at 8:12 AM, Nate McCall >> wrote: >> >> This will be the same process used for dtest. We will need to walk >> this through the incubator per the process outlined here: >> >> >>> >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__incubator.apache.org_guides_ip-5Fclearance.html=DwIFAg=adz96Xi0w1RHqtPMowiL2g=CNZK3RiJDLqhsZDG6FQGnXn8WyPRCQhp4x_uBICNC0g=g-MlYFZVJ7j5Dj_ZfPfa0Ik8Nxco7QsJhTG1TnJH7xI=rk5T_t1HZY6PAhN5XgflBhfEtNrcZkVTIvQxixDlw9o= >> >> Pending the outcome of this vote, we will create the JIRA issues for >> tracking and after we go through the process, and discuss adding >> committers in a separate thread (we need to do this atomically >> anyway >> per general ASF committer adding processes). >> >> Thanks, >> -Nate >> >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org >> > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org >>> >> - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Accept GoCQL driver donation and begin incubation process
+1 On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 10:00 AM Roopa Tangirala wrote: > +1 > > > *Regards,* > > *Roopa Tangirala* > > Engineering Manager CDE > > *(408) 438-3156 - mobile* > > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 8:51 AM Sylvain Lebresne > wrote: > > > -0 > > > > The project seems to have a hard time getting on top of reviewing his > > backlog > > of 'patch available' issues, so that I'm skeptical adopting more code to > > maintain is the thing the project needs the most right now. Besides, I'm > > also > > generally skeptical that augmenting the scope of a project makes it > better: > > I feel > > keeping this project focused on the core server is better. I see risks > > here, but > > the upsides haven't been made very clear for me, even for end users: yes, > > it > > may provide a tiny bit more clarity around which Golang driver to choose > by > > default, but I'm not sure users are that lost, and I think there is other > > ways to > > solve that if we really want. > > > > Anyway, I reckon I may be overly pessimistic here and it's not that > strong > > of > > an objection if a large majority is on-board, so giving my opinion but > not > > opposing. > > > > -- > > Sylvain > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 5:36 PM Jeremiah D Jordan < > > jeremiah.jor...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > +1 > > > > > > But I also think getting this through incubation might take a while/be > > > impossible given how large the contributor list looks… > > > > > > > On Sep 12, 2018, at 10:22 AM, Jeff Jirsa wrote: > > > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > > > (Incubation looks like it may be challenging to get acceptance from > all > > > existing contributors, though) > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Jeff Jirsa > > > > > > > > > > > >> On Sep 12, 2018, at 8:12 AM, Nate McCall > wrote: > > > >> > > > >> This will be the same process used for dtest. We will need to walk > > > >> this through the incubator per the process outlined here: > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__incubator.apache.org_guides_ip-5Fclearance.html=DwIFAg=adz96Xi0w1RHqtPMowiL2g=CNZK3RiJDLqhsZDG6FQGnXn8WyPRCQhp4x_uBICNC0g=g-MlYFZVJ7j5Dj_ZfPfa0Ik8Nxco7QsJhTG1TnJH7xI=rk5T_t1HZY6PAhN5XgflBhfEtNrcZkVTIvQxixDlw9o= > > > >> > > > >> Pending the outcome of this vote, we will create the JIRA issues for > > > >> tracking and after we go through the process, and discuss adding > > > >> committers in a separate thread (we need to do this atomically > anyway > > > >> per general ASF committer adding processes). > > > >> > > > >> Thanks, > > > >> -Nate > > > >> > > > >> > - > > > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org > > > >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org > > > >> > > > > > > > > - > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org > > > > > > > > >
Re: [VOTE] Accept GoCQL driver donation and begin incubation process
+1 *Regards,* *Roopa Tangirala* Engineering Manager CDE *(408) 438-3156 - mobile* On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 8:51 AM Sylvain Lebresne wrote: > -0 > > The project seems to have a hard time getting on top of reviewing his > backlog > of 'patch available' issues, so that I'm skeptical adopting more code to > maintain is the thing the project needs the most right now. Besides, I'm > also > generally skeptical that augmenting the scope of a project makes it better: > I feel > keeping this project focused on the core server is better. I see risks > here, but > the upsides haven't been made very clear for me, even for end users: yes, > it > may provide a tiny bit more clarity around which Golang driver to choose by > default, but I'm not sure users are that lost, and I think there is other > ways to > solve that if we really want. > > Anyway, I reckon I may be overly pessimistic here and it's not that strong > of > an objection if a large majority is on-board, so giving my opinion but not > opposing. > > -- > Sylvain > > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 5:36 PM Jeremiah D Jordan < > jeremiah.jor...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > +1 > > > > But I also think getting this through incubation might take a while/be > > impossible given how large the contributor list looks… > > > > > On Sep 12, 2018, at 10:22 AM, Jeff Jirsa wrote: > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > (Incubation looks like it may be challenging to get acceptance from all > > existing contributors, though) > > > > > > -- > > > Jeff Jirsa > > > > > > > > >> On Sep 12, 2018, at 8:12 AM, Nate McCall wrote: > > >> > > >> This will be the same process used for dtest. We will need to walk > > >> this through the incubator per the process outlined here: > > >> > > >> > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__incubator.apache.org_guides_ip-5Fclearance.html=DwIFAg=adz96Xi0w1RHqtPMowiL2g=CNZK3RiJDLqhsZDG6FQGnXn8WyPRCQhp4x_uBICNC0g=g-MlYFZVJ7j5Dj_ZfPfa0Ik8Nxco7QsJhTG1TnJH7xI=rk5T_t1HZY6PAhN5XgflBhfEtNrcZkVTIvQxixDlw9o= > > >> > > >> Pending the outcome of this vote, we will create the JIRA issues for > > >> tracking and after we go through the process, and discuss adding > > >> committers in a separate thread (we need to do this atomically anyway > > >> per general ASF committer adding processes). > > >> > > >> Thanks, > > >> -Nate > > >> > > >> - > > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org > > >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org > > >> > > > > > > - > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org > > > > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org > > > > >
Re: [VOTE] Accept GoCQL driver donation and begin incubation process
-0 The project seems to have a hard time getting on top of reviewing his backlog of 'patch available' issues, so that I'm skeptical adopting more code to maintain is the thing the project needs the most right now. Besides, I'm also generally skeptical that augmenting the scope of a project makes it better: I feel keeping this project focused on the core server is better. I see risks here, but the upsides haven't been made very clear for me, even for end users: yes, it may provide a tiny bit more clarity around which Golang driver to choose by default, but I'm not sure users are that lost, and I think there is other ways to solve that if we really want. Anyway, I reckon I may be overly pessimistic here and it's not that strong of an objection if a large majority is on-board, so giving my opinion but not opposing. -- Sylvain On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 5:36 PM Jeremiah D Jordan wrote: > +1 > > But I also think getting this through incubation might take a while/be > impossible given how large the contributor list looks… > > > On Sep 12, 2018, at 10:22 AM, Jeff Jirsa wrote: > > > > +1 > > > > (Incubation looks like it may be challenging to get acceptance from all > existing contributors, though) > > > > -- > > Jeff Jirsa > > > > > >> On Sep 12, 2018, at 8:12 AM, Nate McCall wrote: > >> > >> This will be the same process used for dtest. We will need to walk > >> this through the incubator per the process outlined here: > >> > >> > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__incubator.apache.org_guides_ip-5Fclearance.html=DwIFAg=adz96Xi0w1RHqtPMowiL2g=CNZK3RiJDLqhsZDG6FQGnXn8WyPRCQhp4x_uBICNC0g=g-MlYFZVJ7j5Dj_ZfPfa0Ik8Nxco7QsJhTG1TnJH7xI=rk5T_t1HZY6PAhN5XgflBhfEtNrcZkVTIvQxixDlw9o= > >> > >> Pending the outcome of this vote, we will create the JIRA issues for > >> tracking and after we go through the process, and discuss adding > >> committers in a separate thread (we need to do this atomically anyway > >> per general ASF committer adding processes). > >> > >> Thanks, > >> -Nate > >> > >> - > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org > >> > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org > >
Re: [VOTE] Accept GoCQL driver donation and begin incubation process
+1 But I also think getting this through incubation might take a while/be impossible given how large the contributor list looks… > On Sep 12, 2018, at 10:22 AM, Jeff Jirsa wrote: > > +1 > > (Incubation looks like it may be challenging to get acceptance from all > existing contributors, though) > > -- > Jeff Jirsa > > >> On Sep 12, 2018, at 8:12 AM, Nate McCall wrote: >> >> This will be the same process used for dtest. We will need to walk >> this through the incubator per the process outlined here: >> >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__incubator.apache.org_guides_ip-5Fclearance.html=DwIFAg=adz96Xi0w1RHqtPMowiL2g=CNZK3RiJDLqhsZDG6FQGnXn8WyPRCQhp4x_uBICNC0g=g-MlYFZVJ7j5Dj_ZfPfa0Ik8Nxco7QsJhTG1TnJH7xI=rk5T_t1HZY6PAhN5XgflBhfEtNrcZkVTIvQxixDlw9o= >> >> Pending the outcome of this vote, we will create the JIRA issues for >> tracking and after we go through the process, and discuss adding >> committers in a separate thread (we need to do this atomically anyway >> per general ASF committer adding processes). >> >> Thanks, >> -Nate >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org >> > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Accept GoCQL driver donation and begin incubation process
+1 (Incubation looks like it may be challenging to get acceptance from all existing contributors, though) -- Jeff Jirsa > On Sep 12, 2018, at 8:12 AM, Nate McCall wrote: > > This will be the same process used for dtest. We will need to walk > this through the incubator per the process outlined here: > > https://incubator.apache.org/guides/ip_clearance.html > > Pending the outcome of this vote, we will create the JIRA issues for > tracking and after we go through the process, and discuss adding > committers in a separate thread (we need to do this atomically anyway > per general ASF committer adding processes). > > Thanks, > -Nate > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Accept GoCQL driver donation and begin incubation process
+1 On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 8:12 AM Nate McCall wrote: > This will be the same process used for dtest. We will need to walk > this through the incubator per the process outlined here: > > https://incubator.apache.org/guides/ip_clearance.html > > Pending the outcome of this vote, we will create the JIRA issues for > tracking and after we go through the process, and discuss adding > committers in a separate thread (we need to do this atomically anyway > per general ASF committer adding processes). > > Thanks, > -Nate > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org > >
[VOTE] Accept GoCQL driver donation and begin incubation process
This will be the same process used for dtest. We will need to walk this through the incubator per the process outlined here: https://incubator.apache.org/guides/ip_clearance.html Pending the outcome of this vote, we will create the JIRA issues for tracking and after we go through the process, and discuss adding committers in a separate thread (we need to do this atomically anyway per general ASF committer adding processes). Thanks, -Nate - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org
