RE: [vote] Andreas Hartmann as new Cocoon committer
I propose Andreas Hartmann as a new Cocoon committer and PMC member. +1 Arje
RE: [vote] Thorsten Scherler as new Cocoon committer
I propose Thorsten Scherler as a new Cocoon committer and PMC member. +1 Arje
RE: [vote] Luca Morandini as new Cocoon committer
Luca participates at the Cocoon dev and users mail lists since 2001, being more active again recently. A very late +1 Arje
RE: [Vote] Jasha Joachimsthal as new Cocoon committer
It's my pleasure to propose Jasha Joachimsthal as a new committer on the Apache Cocoon project. Jasha has been active on the Cocoon mailing lists since the start of 2006 (http://cocoon.markmail.org/search/?q=Joachimsthal). He has contributed extensively on the user list and do the dev list. He has also done a talk on Cocoon at Apachecon EU and at the Cocoon GetTogether. During his work at Hippo he has become an expert on all things Cocoon! I believe he would make an excellent addition to the project. Cool! :) A very warm +1 Arje
[OT] Cocoon GetTogether @ ApacheCon Europe?
Hi all, Would there be any interest in an *extra edition* Cocoon GetTogether during or around the ApacheCon Europe? The idea is to have a dedicated room for Cocoon folks to do a GT at or around the same time as the ApacheCon. The room will probably not be at the ApacheCon venue itself, but preferrably within walking distance. This GT special edition will be part of the ApacheCon in the sense that they'll be in the same area (in Amsterdam). It's not a requirement to have an ApacheCon ticket to attend the CocoonGT. OTOH, it would make a lot of sense to visit the CocoonGT's bigger brother, ApacheCon, to get to see all the *other* Apache projects, too! Hurray! Twice the Apache fun in 1 week of Amsterdam! :D Kind regards, Arjé Cahn Hippo Oosteinde 11 1017WT Amsterdam The Netherlands Tel +31 (0)20 5224466 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Hippo http://www.hippo.nl Hippo CMS community http://www.hippocms.org My weblog http://blogs.hippo.nl/arje --
RE: CocoonGT
Hi Leszek, I'll send you a new link in private! See you in Rome Arje' -Original Message- From: Leszek Gawron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: donderdag 13 september 2007 10:26 Posted To: Cocoon Dev List Conversation: CocoonGT Subject: CocoonGT As something broke during registration I was not able to pay with PayPal. Question is: what email address should I send the money to? [EMAIL PROTECTED] Second question is: does anyone play squash? Are there any squash courts around? I might take my gear with me if somebody wanted some evening exercise... :) -- Leszek Gawron http://www.mobilebox.pl/krs.html CTO at MobileBox Ltd.
[GT2007] Registrations are open!
*** * * * Cocoon GetTogether 2007 * * * * October 3th to 5th * * * * Rome, Italy * * * ** www.cocoongt.org *** Hi all, Registrations for this year's Cocoon GetTogether are now open! Hurray! Sign up soon - be sure to get that place in the arena before someone else does :-) The progamme is well on its way, and our experience with the last 5 years is that it will be another day of information-scrammed Cocoon talks with lots of best practices, hot new technologies, fun stuff and deep discussions. And don't forget to social evening events! Entrance for all three days is 125 EUR, including Hackaton and lunches and all. Go to: www.cocoongt.org Looking forward to seeing you in Rome! Arjé Cahn Gianugo Rabellino
[GT2007] Rome here we come
Hi all, So it seems this year's Cocoon GetTogether will be in Italy, somewhere beginning of October. Congrats, Gianugo! Now you should get started :-P (and I'm off to vacation ;) ) Kind regards, Arjé Cahn Hippo Oosteinde 11 1017WT Amsterdam The Netherlands Tel +31 (0)20 5224466 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Hippo http://www.hippo.nl Hippo CMS community http://www.hippocms.org My weblog http://blogs.hippo.nl/arje -- Upcoming presentation June 25th, New York: Open Source Content Management in the Enterprise http://www.soaeosconference.sys-con.com/general/session07.htm?id=30 --
[GT2007] [VOTE] Conference location + time
Hi all, Please cast your votes on both the location and the time for this year's Cocoon GetTogether conference: A) The Netherlands, Amsterdam B) Italy, Rome / Milano C) England, London / Norwich When: A) Late september B) Beginning of October (between the holidays season and ApacheCon) C) End of October Thanks! Apart from all that, you should come over and visit Amsterdam anyway from May 1-4 at the ApacheCon Europe! www.apachecon.com Kind regards, Arjé Cahn Hippo Oosteinde 11 1017WT Amsterdam The Netherlands Tel +31 (0)20 5224466 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Hippo http://www.hippo.nl Hippo CMS community http://www.hippocms.org My weblog http://blogs.hippo.nl/arje -- ApacheCon Europe 2007 Gold Sponsor Join us from May 2-4 in Amsterdam! --
[ApacheConEU] Early Bird Registration Ends Tuesday 27
Hi all, Please note that the Early Bird registration for the ApacheCon Europe 2007 ends **this Tuesday**! See below for the official announcement. There will be 2 Cocoon talks, and plenty of others that you shouldn't miss if you're serious about Apache development. Hope to see you in Amsterdam (again), -- Arjé --- Early Bird Registration for ApacheCon Europe 2007 Ends Tuesday 27 March World-Recognized Technologists, Vendors, Thought-Leaders, and Users Convene in Amsterdam to Experience the Future of Open Source Development FOREST HILL, MD -- (MARKET WIRE) -- March 21, 2007 -- ApacheCon Europe 2007, the official conference, trainings, and expo of the Apache Software Foundation (ASF), today announced the deadline for Early Bird registration ends on Tuesday, 27 March 2007. With engaging plenary and keynote addresses, technical presentations, informal networking, peer discussions, Birds-of-a-Feather sessions, and entertaining social events, ApacheCon delves into the highly lauded community that develops and shepherds industry-leading Open Source projects, including Apache HTTP Server -- the world's most popular Web server software for more than a decade. ApacheCon Europe takes place 1-4 May 2007 at the Mövenpick Hotel in Amsterdam, The Netherlands. Special Registration-Plus-Hotel Conference Package offers savings up to US$238; Conference passes range from US$450 - US$1,700 with an average savings of US$150 with Early Bird pricing. Trainings are US$350 for half-day sessions, and US$550 for full-day courses. Register today at http://www.eu.apachecon.com/. With more than 100 sessions on groundbreaking technologies and emerging industry trends, conference participants meet, mingle, and exchange ideas with like-minded peers in a relaxed, community-focused environment. Highlights include: Abstraction and extraction: in praise of: Keynote addresses from Steven Pemberton, Web Usability Expert at CWI and Chair, W3C XHTML and XForms Working Groups. Open Source: It's a license, not a business model or a development model: Keynote address by Dr. Margo Seltzer, Herchel Smith Professor of Computer Science, Harvard University Division of Applied Sciences. Full-and Half-Day Training Sessions taught by industry experts, offering hands-on instruction on Apache Projects Axis2, ApacheDS, Jackrabbit, Jetspeed, HTTP Server, Lucene, Maven, MyFaces, emerging initiatives from the Apache Incubator, and widely-deployed standards such as SSL and XSLT. Popular Developer Presentations on flagship Apache and Open Source technologies, including Geronimo, Harmony, HTTP Server, Tomcat, AJAX, Cocoon, Databases, Derby, Eclipse, Jakarta, LDAP, Portlets, Roller, Security, SpamAssassin, and WebDAV, as well as a look into projects from the ASF Incubator and Labs at the new ApacheCon Fast Feather Track. Business Track featuring panel sessions, presentations, and case studies that address core Open Source business, marketing, standardization, community-building, and legal/licensing issues, as well as explore broader areas such as the Semantic Web, Web Services, Web 2.0, and mobile technologies. Sponsor Events and Expo gives attendees direct access to industry-leading organizations such as BlackHat, Covalent, Google (NASDAQ: GOOG), the Java Community Process, and Sun Microsystems (NASDAQ: SUNW) as well as first-looks at new technologies and products showcased by emerging players such as Hippo, Nexaweb, Ordina, and WSO2. Special Events include geeking, hacking, and relaxing in the Online Lounge, conference and sponsor receptions, out-of-the-box public speaking at the Lighting Talks, and more! Corporate Sponsorship, Exhibitor, and government participation opportunities are available; contact Delia Frees at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or on +1 707 765 0823 for more information. Event media partners include: Apress, CMS Channel, CMS Center, DevTownStation, DigiMedia, European Web Association, Free Software Magazine, Integration Developer News, Linux Magazine, LXer, Methods Tools, Open Enterprise Trends, Slashdot, Software Development Articles Directory, Software Development Tools Directory, Software Development News, and Webtech 2007. To become a Media Partner, contact Sally Khudairi on +1 617 921 8656 or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kind regards, Met vriendelijke groet, Arjé Cahn Hippo Oosteinde 11 1017WT Amsterdam The Netherlands Tel +31 (0)20 5224466 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Hippo http://www.hippo.nl Hippo CMS community http://www.hippocms.org My weblog http://blogs.hippo.nl/arje -- ApacheCon Europe 2007 Gold Sponsor Join us from May 2-4 in Amsterdam! --
RE: [GT2007] It's that time of the year again...
Gianugo replied: stuff-I-might-regret-soon *cough* Italy? *cough* :-) /stuff-I-might-regret-soon Oh boy.. You *are* going to regret this! :=D Thanks for stepping up, Gianugo! It's good to see that there are more options. Maybe there are others that would like to step forward as this year's Cocoon GetTogether host? Right now, the options are: A) The Netherlands, Amsterdam B) Italy, Rome (or Milano?) May I, as the event organizer for the last two years, suggest that we wait until Sunday for other people to step up and then start a voting round on Monday for the location of this year's Cocoon conference? Kind regards, Arjé Cahn Hippo Oosteinde 11 1017WT Amsterdam The Netherlands Tel +31 (0)20 5224466 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Hippo http://www.hippo.nl Hippo CMS community http://www.hippocms.org My weblog http://blogs.hippo.nl/arje -- ApacheCon Europe 2007 Gold Sponsor Join us from May 2-4 in Amsterdam! --
RE: [vote] Jeroen Reijn as a new Cocoon committer
I'd like to propose Jeroen Reijn as a Cocoon committer. +1 Didn't want to send in my heavily biased vote during the official round, but still want to share my enthousiasm! Good stuff, Jeroen! -- Arjé
[GT2007] It's that time of the year again...
Hi all, (quoting Joerg quoting the Cocoon analysis report that Daniel found:) Over the last twelve months, Cocoon (Apache) has seen a substantial increase in activity... Good news! What about a Cocoon GetTogether 2007? Kind regards, Met vriendelijke groet, Arjé Cahn Hippo Oosteinde 11 1017WT Amsterdam The Netherlands Tel +31 (0)20 5224466 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Hippo http://www.hippo.nl Hippo CMS community http://www.hippocms.org My weblog http://blogs.hippo.nl/arje --
RE: [graphics] Artwork for cocoon.apache.org - new version
Hi all, All in all I think this design looks very good. First of all, I must apologize for being such a PITA when it comes to the Cocoon website in the past and then go completely silent for months... But what I've just seen is *really* *really* great! I would love to see this design and structure go life as the new Cocoon website. In all my excitement, I accidentally clicked the Cocoon logo in the new design and was sent back to the utter darkness of the 'old' Cocoon website... How depressing experience that is :-(. This new design is so much more inspiring! It rocks. It's fresh, and it breathes new life. I think I just fell in love with Cocoon.. Again :) Big +1 from me, just in case anyone cares. :) Many thanks to all of you who have pushed this forward, and please keep those good vibes going! -- Arjé
RE: The Cocoon documentation: a lot has happened here
Hi Reinhard, Helma and others, A big thanks (again!) for your work on the documentation. With my sceptical hat on, I took a quick glimpse at http://cocoon.zones.apache.org/dev-docs/, and found myself actually pretty surprised by the refreshing new look. :) But I hope you don't mind if I add some (really trivial) suggestions.. I'm not going to dive into the quality of the content itself, since this is clearly a work in progress. But there's some small things about the structure. News on the homepage: excellent!! I love it. It would be better if we could have the date presented as part of the title: # 10/18/06: News Management in our Docs smallsubmitted by Ross Gardler, 10/18/06 9:59:32 PM/small We are experimenting with a news management system in our Daisy driven documentation system. Simply create a new document with the type NewsEntry snip ... [more] # 10/17/06: Cocoon GT 2006 in Amsterdam smallsubmitted by Reinhard, 10/17/06 9:59:32 PM/small The Apache Cocoon community is proud to announce the fifth (!) annual edition of the Cocoon GetTogether, the main annual ... [more] The 4 hour update schedule is more than enough for me. Still, I'd love to see some blogentries right there on the homepage as well... Just an aggregate of committer blogs that list only items categorized as 'Cocoon'. - Following the split up of Cocoon (the code) we also split up the documentation into much smaller pieces. The rule is that each deployment unit has it's own documentation. Although this is fine with me, I got lost in the subsite-principle. I'd much rather have a single navigational structure for all parts. It took me a while before I noticed Cocoon core in the top navigation, clicked on it and got to something that looks like the same website, but has a completely different navigation. Maybe I've missed out on this discussion, but it makes it really hard for me to find things What is the reason for this? - The documentation is automatically exported to http://cocoon.zones.apache.org/dev-docs/ every 4 hours. I noticed that this website is horribly slow... Got any clue why this happens? At http://cocoon.zones.apache.org/daisy/cdocs/1201.html you can find how-tos (about adding and publishing docs) and an overview of how the documentation system works. I guess the editing part should mimic the presentation from the published result? Helma will also work on a new flashy design for our site, though we both don't think that this effort should block publishing the docs using the well-known Maven skin as soon as the content is good enough. Does anybody disagree? I totally agree! Let's get things rolling first.. On a sidenote, if someone has a drawing of the Cocoon 2.1/2.2/3.0 architectures (sketch would be fine), I could get it redone by the guy who is currently redesigning Hippo's architectural diagrams. Same goes for the 'pipelined transformation' graphic. Could explain a lot if we would have that on the homepage! As many people agreed that it is *very important* to have good documentation, Helma and I hope that others join us. Don't hesitate if you think that all this stuff is complicated. It's definitly not! Just go to http://cocoon.zones.apache.org/daisy/, choose the site that you want to improve and do it! Now, is there anything we can do about the Wiki pages? There have always been quite a bunch of pages that on the Wiki that deserve to be moved into the documentation. Also, the Wiki used to have a very low entry barrier, it would be easier to use that as a sandbox and move finished docs into the documentation website. Thanks for picking this up! Arjé
RE: So, where's the =users= guide? Where's the intro?
...So I'm still scuffing around looking for how do I use Cocoon? How much can I do without having to know 'how' it works? .. Bertrand said: You might want to have a look at the Supersonic Tour, which is part of the samples that come with Cocoon. There's a link to the online version at http://cocoon.zones.apache.org/ Why is the supersonic tour not a part of the 'regular' docs? Arje
RE: So, where's the =users= guide? Where's the intro?
...Why is the supersonic tour not a part of the 'regular' docs? Because many snippets inside the pages (code excerpts, pipeline outputs etc). are generated dynamically. Ah.. The live SVN snippet trick :) Of course, if someone can make it more integrated with the regular docs, that's fine. Well, it should at least be easy to find it in the regular docs? - Arje
RE: [RANT] The Cocoon website: move on, nothing is happening here
Steven said: What those Belgian guys however (in)frequently murmured amongst themselves was: why the stupid fixation with SVN as a required content repository for official ASF documentation sites? I can see the benefits of having all content (replicated) in SVN. But in principle, yes, there's too much 'stupid fixation' going on anyway. You should have been there when I decided not to wait for Java hosting @ ASF, simply rented a server, and installed JSPWiki under the cocoondev.org domain. Well, as you know, I was kind of there. And I think you did Cocoon a really big favour by doing it in that way. In your stubbornness, you have definitely leveraged the Cocoon community in many ways. I don't want JSPWiki back, either, but there are structural errors in the way the Wiki is organized nowadays. I would like to see some sort of integration between the Wiki and the 'official' website in such a way that they have an accelerating effect on each other. There's (almost BY DEFINITION) too much redundancy and conflicting information in both sites. They've been pulling eachother down for a long time. A differentiation between an official Apache website and a community driven website sounds so paradoxal to me. The 'community driven websites' have helped Cocoon move forward, the 'official' one is the one currently killing it. While I agree with your sentiments, I can only say that things have grown organically into what they are now. It's what the community wanted. Don't get me wrong - I'm not blaming anyone. The community has changed a lot over time, and Cocoon has grown mature. With that, it's clear that some of the original pioneering work is gone, and the focus might better shift to end-users instead of (Apache) developers that instinctively know their way around in the ASF information clutter. A few weeks ago, I was talking with Jeff Turner, with him suggesting that it would be better to suggest Daisy instead of Confluence for incubating ASF projects who are looking for a website management tool. Of course, you would understand that I would not take any position regarding Daisy. :) But whatever it is we need to get things going again, I'm all for it. The Cocoon community has always been really strong, but it's too much centralized on the mailinglists right now. The outside visibility is therefor completely nonexistant. Maybe the discussion is (again?) not about what's going wrong with the Cocoon community, but what's going wrong with what the ASF allows us to do. I don't know about the real bounderies there, so please tell me. - Can we have a Wiki integrated with the Cocoon website? - As such, can we have both in 1 content repository so we can effectively move interesting Wiki pages into the documentation? - Can we display a feed of current activitiy on the mailinglists? Can we display the 10 latest messages on the user/dev list right on the homepage? - Can we have a forum? (Ok, I guess we can't, but maybe there's a way to display the mailinglists in a forum-style way? It's just the visibility I'm talking about) - Can we add blogposts (from committers) to the Cocoon website? - Are we tied to any ASF rules for structure or design of our website? - Can we have 'subsites' hosted below the official Cocoon website? Aka, the CocoonGT website? Just some thoughts.. Arjé
RE: [RANT] The Cocoon website: move on, nothing is happening here
Bertrand said: Thanks Arje for starting this thread. :-) And, despite your (justified) negative view on the current state of our website, big thanks to those who have been investing lots of time trying to make it happen over the years. Few of us have been really paying attention, it's easy to make a lot of noise now about our site sucking now (nothing against you Arje, I'm speaking in general terms). I totally agree with you. It sure is easy to say the website sucks :) I'd suggest simply finding a way to make the http://cocoon.apache.org/ homepage more alive Yes! Add to this a link to a blog aggregator (planetcocoon.org?) for cocoon-related posts by members of this community, and we'd have much more life on our website already, with little effort. Absolutely! But - and I'm gonna be a real pain in the butt about this - it should *not* be at planetcocoon.org. It should be at cocoon.apache.org. We need to give visitors something to look at, at the place where they start looking (see my first email). This is NOT AGAIN another website, it should be the Cocoon main website. Arje
[RANT] The Cocoon website: move on, nothing is happening here
Hi all, I just have to share my frustrations. oOo- I got 2 emails from people that were very disappointed that they both missed out on the GT because they were only watching the Cocoon website. One of them mentioned that his manager no longer wants him to use Cocoon since the project website is dead. These two people were visitors of last year's event, and I'm pretty sure that there would've been many more people that missed out because they don't read the mailinglists. First of all, let me start by saying that I've made a really big mistake in not updating the Cocoon website with news about the Cocoon GetTogether. Although the Wiki does mention it, as well as the mailinglists, the Cocoon website has no news to share. But it appeared to me anyway that the Cocoon news page is actually never actually really read. (how stupid of me) For example, if you take a look at http://cocoon.apache.org/news/index.html, it says pretty much nothing. Of course, I'll have to blame myself for not putting the GT on the website. Which I do. But I must say that I've been working my ass off to get the GT done, and I'm just a little bit disappointed that no one else came up with the idea of putting it up on the website. Alright, I know, it's entirely my fault. On the other hand, there's been the occasional blogposts (thanks!), and Carsten had some postings in German magazines, but that was just about it. Compare this with the 30 something people that Carsten got at (both) his talks in Austin, and the 50 something in Dublin. Add to that the 90 people attending the Cocoon GT of which 80% were totally unrelated to the Cocoon 'family'. There's still a lot of interest in Cocoon from the outside world - we just do not leverage it! And then there's the really kind words that I got from Apache board guys at the ApacheCon in Austin. Why is it so hard to drive 300 attendees to Austin for a big conference on ALL Apache projects, covered by a huge budget, big names and big sponsors, while we seem to easily reach 100 people every year for a silly little conference in Europe without *any* serious budget??! I mean, Cocoon was supposed to be OBSOLETE, wasn't it? BTW, thanks for putting up the ApacheCon logo's on the Cocoon site. Neat. oOo- The discussion about a new design for our website is great, but I feel there are much bigger mistakes that we have to get straightened out before the shinyness of our website is of any importance. We need to decide where we put what, as it's currently spread all over the place: Cocoon website, mailinglists, the Wiki, blogs, zones.apache, Daisy documentation, etc etc... oOo- So here's my list of things that TOTALLY SUCK about the Cocoon website :-) - Someone has to maintain the Cocoon News page. There are now 4 entries on the page, spanning a total 2 years of news. That totally sucks! For a newcomer, this is not a good sign. It would really help, if we got someone to add 1 news entry every month, with 3 lines minimum. We've recently added a bunch of committers to the project, which is perfect to show that we're not DEAD. Let's put it on there! - NEWS should be on the HOMEPAGE, not 2 clicks away from the homepage. I mean, look at *any* commercial website and see how many clicks you need to get to the news and marketing yadayada. - Add Cocoon blogs to the Cocoon website (don't know if that would be a legal issue, but it would surely add fuzz). Only the Apache incrowd reads planetapache - it's just too far away from the Cocoon website. Let's move it there where the community is. Just see the Ruby on Rails website. Why the dull Cocoon move on, nothing is happening here look? - Documentation (sorry, Helma). So, it was Stefano's dream to once have a Cocoon CMS and run the Cocoon website with it. I don't think part of this dream was to tuck it away on a hidden location so it will be forgotten forever. How embarissing it is to see Helma working at the GT practically alone on all our docs. This has everything to do with the total invisibility of the documentation website. Let's bring it out into the spotlights. Let's give every committer a login, or better yet, get Daisy to talk to the ASF's authentication server (free advice Belgian guys). - The Cocoon Wiki went DEAD as soon as it was moved to Moinmoin. What a sin. It might have been for political reasons, I don't know. I believe the Cocoon Wiki was once the brightest, most innovative and fun place to be if you wanted to get your hands dirty with Cocoon. Whatever happened to the navigation bar we used to have in JSPWiki?? Please! Let's put it back. I don't think I'm the stupidest person on earth, but ever since the Moinmoin Wiki was launched I've NEVER found ANYTHING interesting on it anymore. - Make stuff easy to find on our website.. Without going into details, too many things are hidden too far away. I'm very sure there's hardly any newcomer
[GT2006] Last change: register now!
*** * * * Cocoon GetTogether 2006 * * * * October 2nd to 4th * * * * Amsterdam, The Netherlands * * * * Current count: 85 attendees * *12 countries * * * ** www.cocoongt.org *** Hi all, Final reminder - the Cocoon GetTogether starts MONDAY with a 2 day hackaton, and the actual conference day is on Wednesday. If you still want to sign up, be quick! The registration will stay open, but chairs (and t-shirts) are running out so make sure you're not too late! Check the website for more info: http://www.cocoongt.org A big thanks to our sponsors who make this wonderful event possible.. SN, Sourcesense, Hippo, Outerthought and BeValue - thanks guys! Conference day (October 4th) program: 08:30-09:00 Registration 09:00-09:20 Arje Cahn: Welcome: 101 Cocoon Marketing Graphs 09:20-09:45 Reinhard Potz: PMC Chair opening keynote 09:45-10:15 Andreas Kühne: 'Cocoon at work' or 'things running unexpectedly smooth' 10:15-10:45 Ross McDonald and Jeremy Quinn: Real life, down-to-earth Cocoon and LDAP 10:45-11:15 BREAK 11:15-11:45 Gianugo Rabellino: Slicing and dicing REST with Apache Cocoon 11:45-12:15 Nico Verwer: Domain Specific Languages and Cocoon 12:15-12:45 Bruno Dumon: Document publishing in the Daisy CMS 12:45-13:45 LUNCH 13:45-14:15 Andrew Savory: 6 talks on Cocoon 14:15-14:45 Gustavo Nalle Fernandes: Devware - bringing Cocoon-related technologies to the development environment 14:45-15:15 Ard Schrijvers, Niels van Kampenhout and Bart van der Schans: Making Cocoon web sites perform 15:15-15:45 BREAK 15:45-16:15 Arjé Cahn: Massive websites by example (featuring Hippo CMS and Cocoon) 16:15-16:45 Daniel Fagerstrom: Reusable webapps with Cocoon blocks 16:45-17:15 Bertrand Delacretaz: Subversion and Solr - your next content repository? 17:15-19:00 Reception See you there! Kind regards, Arjé Cahn Hippo Oosteinde 11 1017WT Amsterdam The Netherlands Tel +31 (0)20 5224466 www.hippo.nl [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Hippo CMS release v6.03.05 is now available at www.hippocms.org --
RE: [GT2006] The program! What's up in 2 weeks time?
Hi Lezek, Is there any chance to record the presentations on camera? If someone (you?) would be able to do that, that would be awesome...! I very much enjoyed Jack Ivers' podcasts from last year, but he hasn't signed up yet (although Vadim did). So, anyone volunteering to do either podcasts or vidcasts would be very welcome. Please let me know. Kind regards, Arjé Cahn Hippo Oosteinde 11 1017WT Amsterdam The Netherlands Tel +31 (0)20 5224466 www.hippo.nl [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Hippo CMS release v6.03.05 is now available at www.hippocms.org --
[GT2006] The program! What's up in 2 weeks time?
*** * * * Cocoon GetTogether 2006 * * * * October 2nd to 4th * * * * Amsterdam, The Netherlands * * * * Current count: 70 attendees * *11 countries * * * ** www.cocoongt.org *** Finally, here's the final program for this year's Cocoon GetTogether conference! It's a heavy-packed, high-density schedule with 13 (!) sessions of about 30 minutes each, which covers some very diverse topics about Cocoon. If you want to know about Cocoon, how powerful it is, and how easy you can get your things done in Cocoon, make sure you don't miss this excellent opportunity! The registration will stay open until late next week, but chairs are running out so make sure you're not too late. A big thanks to our sponsors who make this wonderful event possible.. SN, Sourcesense, Hippo, Outerthought and BeValue - thanks guys! 08:30-09:00 Registration 09:00-09:20 Arje Cahn: Welcome: 101 Cocoon Marketing Graphs 09:20-09:45 Reinhard Potz: PMC Chair opening keynote 09:45-10:15 Andreas Kühne: 'Cocoon at work' or 'things running unexpectedly smooth' 10:15-10:45 Ross McDonald and Jeremy Quinn: Real life, down-to-earth Cocoon and LDAP 10:45-11:15 BREAK 11:15-11:45 Gianugo Rabellino: Slicing and dicing REST with Apache Cocoon 11:45-12:15 Nico Verwer: Domain Specific Languages and Cocoon 12:15-12:45 Bruno Dumon: Document publishing in the Daisy CMS 12:45-13:45 LUNCH 13:45-14:15 Andrew Savory: 6 talks on Cocoon 14:15-14:45 Gustavo Nalle Fernandes: Devware - bringing Cocoon-related technologies to the development environment 14:45-15:15 Ard Schrijvers, Niels van Kampenhout and Bart van der Schans: Making Cocoon web sites perform 15:15-15:45 BREAK 15:45-16:15 Arjé Cahn: Massive websites by example (featuring Hippo CMS and Cocoon) 16:15-16:45 Daniel Fagerstrom: Reusable webapps with Cocoon blocks 16:45-17:15 Bertrand Delacretaz: Subversion and Solr - your next content repository? 17:15-19:00 Reception By squeezing all of the proposals into snappy 30 minute slots, the positive consequence is that there's no hard voting procedure necessary and we can all enjoy what this exciting list of speakers have to tell us on the 4th of October. See you there! BTW - if you're a speaker, please sign up as usual but skip the payment part :) Kind regards, Arjé Cahn Hippo Oosteinde 11 1017WT Amsterdam The Netherlands Tel +31 (0)20 5224466 www.hippo.nl [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Hippo CMS release v6.03.05 is now available at www.hippocms.org --
RE: [GT2006] 17 talks proposed!
My first reaction was: can't we fit all of them in? Hold on... Are you suggesting we squeeze *all* talks to 30 minutes slots, effectively raising the number of talks from 8 to 12 ?? That's a *lot* of talks..! On the other hand, it would fit right in... If me and Reinhard only need 15 minutes, and Andrew drops 4 out of his 6 proposals, we'll have 11 30-minute talks left.. This is INSANE! If done properly, it could be very snappy and a lot of fun. But it could get really messy as wel.. WDYT?? Kind regards, Arjé Cahn Hippo Oosteinde 11 1017WT Amsterdam The Netherlands Tel +31 (0)20 5224466 www.hippo.nl [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Hippo CMS release v6.03.05 is now available at www.hippocms.org --
[EUROOSCON] Anyone attending the EuroOscon in Bruxelles?
Hi there, Is anyone (apart from the Outerthoughties ;) ) attending the EuroOscon next week? I'll be there from Monday evening until Wednesday evening. Any plans for Cocoon stammtisch on Tuesday night? Kind regards, Arjé Cahn Hippo Oosteinde 11 1017WT Amsterdam The Netherlands Tel +31 (0)20 5224466 www.hippo.nl [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Hippo CMS release v6.03.05 is now available at www.hippocms.org --
[GT2006] Diners... Evening things.
Hi all, Monday evening at the Hackaton, by popular request we'll have real pizza's and beers in the hackaton room! This has already been arranged, but I need to have a time on which to order the pizza's. The room will be available until 11 PM, so we can have some BOF's / Lighting talks / etc. YOU need to figure out a schedule!! ;)) For the traditional Tuesday diner, I was thinking of booking the place where we had last year's first diner (instead of the crappy spareribs joint we went the second day). WDYT? The restaurant (Carel's) is cozier and can hold up to ~70 people. They even have spareribs on the menu for the diehard CocoonGT-istas among us! Any objections? :) Kind regards, Arjé Cahn Hippo Oosteinde 11 1017WT Amsterdam The Netherlands Tel +31 (0)20 5224466 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] / www.hippo.nl / [EMAIL PROTECTED] --
[GT2006] 17 talks proposed!
*** * * * Cocoon GetTogether 2006 * * * * October 2nd to 4th * * * * Amsterdam, The Netherlands * * * * Current count: 61 attendees * * 9 countries * * * ** www.cocoongt.org *** Hi there, 17 proposals! Pretty good (much more than last year), although Andrew is drastically obfuscating the statistics by proposing no less than 6 talks :-o In total, we can host about 8 45-minute sessions, so we need to decide on which 8 or 9 talks have to go. I'd like to do the voting procedure slightly different this year, in the sense that everyone who has signed up to the event will receive an invitation to cast his or her vote. If you feel like voting, but have not yet registered, *now* is your change! :-) (I'm getting more and more of a conference salesperson these days :) ) Voting will be off-list and monitored by myself and Steven Noels. Before starting the whole voting procedure, I'll await any discussion on the talk proposals. So, let me know what you think of the talks! Here they come: - 1) Arje Cahn: 101 Cocoon Marketing Graphs A short presentation on the outcome of this year's registration survey. 101 graphs to show to your manager. Time: 20 minutes 2) Andrew Savory: Things your mother never told you about Cocoon (The secret gems of Cocoon rebranded) This session will uncover some of the deep, dark secrets of Cocoon that most people never discover. This will draw on the ah-ha! moments from various Cocoon training sessions, and from a quick Google search for Cocoon Eureka!. 3) Andrew Savory: 10 Reasons to use Cocoon In this session, you'll hear 10 irrefutable reasons to start using Cocoon or switch your application to Cocoon right away. 4) Andrew Savory: Cocoon reloaded: moving from xsp and actions to newer technologies This session will use a couple of ancient cocoon 2.0 web sites to illustrate how to make the most of the new Cocoon features such as flow and jxtemplate. 5) Andrew Savory: Case studies What do the BBC, Warwick University and two Visual Arts galleries have in common? Find out how Cocoon helped each of these organisations to not just build basic web sites, but also to provide dynamic user-generated-content-driven immersive web experiences. (*cough*) 6) Andrew Savory: An illustrated guide to Cocoon technologies (How to NOT get lost in Cocoon technologies rebranded) Actions, Authentication, Databases, Flow, Forms, Generators, i18n, Matchers, Persistence, Portals, Serializers, Sitemaps, Transformers, XSP: you could be forgiven for thinking Cocoon developers speak a different language. This session will be a lightning illustrated guide to what makes Cocoon applications tick. 7) Andrew Savory: Cocoon archetypes (How to create a typical project with cocoon rebranded) Over the past six years of building Cocoon apps, we've seen it all - ant, cvs, hacking by hand, maven, shell scripts, subversion, telekinesis: find out here how to follow Cocoon best practice (or avoid Cocoon worst practice) when putting together a typical Cocoon project from scratch. 8) Reinhard Potz: PMC Chair opening keynote Time: 20 minutes? (Reinhard has not yet responded on my question if he'd want to say something, but I guess it would be good to have him or someone else present the 'Cocoon state of the project') 9) Andreas Kühne: 'Cocoon at work' or 'things running unexpectedly smooth' Giving an overview of a succesful midsize project using cocoon for the upper layer. It's about a signing / verification server running as well in an intranet ( signing administration ) as well on the internet (free verification service). The base layer is implemented using EJBs on jBoss. This backend is adapted by a special 'Invocation transformer'. It serves well in separating bean access out of other parts of the cocoon layer. Short example of a EJB invocation is given. Cocoon shows it's well-known strength - authentication / session framework - i18n - multi-channel output of backend data ( e.g. PDF ) - multi-client-support ( SoC example ) - easy to expand ( e.g. transformer for signed / encrypted mails ) - ajax support out of the box Most important - runs for years without problems - easy to expand for new clients - fast turnaround cycle ( xslt, sitemap, xsp ... instantly ) compared to EJB layer - reliable ( didn't came across a cocoon bug, yet ) real life experience - several thousand
[GT2006] Already 50 attendees.. Early bird ends tomorrow!
*** * * * Cocoon GetTogether 2006 * * * * October 2nd to 4th * * * * Amsterdam, The Netherlands * * * ** www.cocoongt.org *** Hi all, The Cocoon GetTogether has just hit it's 50th attendee! Be sure to get your seat before the EARLY BIRD registration ends tomorrow. Early bird fee is only 99 EUR and includes Hackaton fees! www.cocoongt.org That's it for now! Kind regards, Arjé Cahn Hippo Oosteinde 11 1017WT Amsterdam The Netherlands Tel +31 (0)20 5224466 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] / www.hippo.nl / [EMAIL PROTECTED] --
RE: [GT2006] REMINDER: Request for Papers, deadline tomorrownight!
...Please send in your proposals for talks before tomorrownight.. Did you actively invite the Lenya and Forrest guys as well? It might be nice to have some contribution from them. Whoops.. You're right - although I did sent them all other messages, I'd forgotten about this one.. Will do it right away..! -- Arje
RE: [GT2006] Registration is open! Cocoon GetTogether 2006 (Oct 2-4,Amsterdam)
How horrible... I've now told PayPal to default to US English. I'd much rather have PayPal figure out the visitor's language settings itself, but apparantly it doesn't :(( Hopefully this helps figuring out the right country to select! Sorry for all the trouble, Arjé BTW - of course, it wouldn't hurt if you all start learning some Dutch before you get here :) -Original Message- From: Jasha Joachimsthal Posted At: dinsdag 5 september 2006 10:45 Posted To: Cocoon Dev List Conversation: [GT2006] Registration is open! Cocoon GetTogether 2006 (Oct 2-4,Amsterdam) Subject: RE: [GT2006] Registration is open! Cocoon GetTogether 2006 (Oct 2-4,Amsterdam) Probably Verenigd Koninkrijk (United Kingdom) Jasha Joachimsthal Hippo Oosteinde 11 1017 WT Amsterdam The Netherlands +31 (0)20 5224466 www.hippo.nl -Original Message- From: Ross McDonald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: dinsdag 5 september 2006 10:38 To: dev@cocoon.apache.org Subject: Re: [GT2006] Registration is open! Cocoon GetTogether 2006 (Oct 2-4,Amsterdam) Yup, I got it in Dutch too, have not made it through yet :-) What is England in Dutch ? Ross. On 4 Sep 2006, at 18:34, Arje Cahn wrote: I got a seat! Even made it through the Paypal forms in Dutch! Aw.. Really? Is it always in Dutch? It shouldn't do that! Do others have this as well?? -- Arje ___ Now you can scan emails quickly with a reading pane. Get the new Yahoo! Mail. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html
[GT2006] REMINDER: Request for Papers, deadline tomorrownight!
* * * *Cocoon GetTogether 2006* * October 2nd to 4th * * * * Amsterdam, The Netherlands * * * * EARLY BIRD registration open! * * * *** www.cocoongt.org Hi all, Because I was on holiday, I forgot to send out the RFP reminder... :( Therefor, here's a short reminder, giving you all some extra time to send in your proposals! Please send in your proposals for talks before tomorrownight: -- September 6, 23:59 CET -- Please see http://www.cocoongt.org/Request-for-papers.html for guidelines. It can be really short, as long as there's some basic description in there so we can start setting up the program. Thanks, and looking forward to meeting you all (again) in october in Amsterdam! Kind regards, Arjé Cahn Hippo Oosteinde 11 1017WT Amsterdam The Netherlands Tel +31 (0)20 5224466 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] / www.hippo.nl / [EMAIL PROTECTED] --
RE: data added to our SVN for the ASF calendar
FYI, I have created a calendar file at http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/cocoon/site/asf-calendar/ for display on http://asylum.zones.apache.org/rdfcal Great, thanks Bertrand! -- Arje
RE: Re: [GT2006] Registration is open! Cocoon GetTogether 2006 (Oct 2-4,Amsterdam)
Hi Bertrand, Do (potential) speakers have to register there as well? Yes, please register on the website, even if you're thinking of doing a talk. As usual, speakers will get a free pass. Please sign up but wait with the whole Paypal procedure until you know whether you'll be talking or not. Kind regards, Met vriendelijke groet, Arjé Cahn Hippo Oosteinde 11 1017WT Amsterdam The Netherlands Tel +31 (0)20 5224466 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] / www.hippo.nl / [EMAIL PROTECTED] --
RE: Re: [GT2006] Registration is open! Cocoon GetTogether 2006 (Oct 2-4,Amsterdam)
I got a seat! Even made it through the Paypal forms in Dutch! Aw.. Really? Is it always in Dutch? It shouldn't do that! Do others have this as well?? -- Arje
[GT2006] Registration is open! Cocoon GetTogether 2006 (Oct 2-4,Amsterdam)
*** * * * Cocoon GetTogether 2006 * * * * October 2nd to 4th * * * * Amsterdam, The Netherlands * * * ** www.cocoongt.org *** Hi all, The EARLY BIRD registration is now open! Hurray! Sign up soon - be sure to get that seat before someone else does :) Early bird fee is 99 EUR until September 11th and includes Hackaton fees! www.cocoongt.org That's it for now! Kind regards, Arjé Cahn Hippo Oosteinde 11 1017WT Amsterdam The Netherlands Tel +31 (0)20 5224466 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] / www.hippo.nl / [EMAIL PROTECTED] --
RE: [Vote] Ard Schrijvers as a new Cocoon committer
I want to propose Ard Schrijvers as a new Cocoon committer. Awesome! Here's my incredibly biased +1 Having said enough about his functional skills I also want to mention that he is a great guy with a good sense of humor. Definitely! Vet ouwe! Kind regards, Arjé Cahn Hippo Oosteinde 11 1017WT Amsterdam The Netherlands Tel +31 (0)20 5224466 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] / www.hippo.nl / [EMAIL PROTECTED] --
[GT2006] Update! Cocoon GetTogether 2006 (Oct 2-4,Amsterdam)
*** * * * Cocoon GetTogether 2006 * * * * October 2nd to 4th * * * * Amsterdam, The Netherlands * * * ** www.cocoongt.org *** Hi all, Here's a little Cocoon GetTogether 2006 update! First of all, a big Thank You to everyone who responded to my emails! Ideas for talks --- Here's the (long!) list of subjects for sessions that we all came up with: - Success stories (why someone chose Cocoon, for what, what was great and what not?) - Comparison of Cocoon with other web frameworks - Why should I upgrade to 2.2? - A meet the Cocoon devs session at the hackaton for users. This session should be moderated and the topics come from the participating non-committers. - Perspectives of the portal block, relations to other Apache portal projects - Some shorter, flashier presentations of what you can achieve with Cocoon, right from the core developers - A session with kowledge flashes, 5 to 10 minutes per subject - A guided tour through Cocoon where Reinhard interviewed Carsten and Sylvain about the internals - Some demos of actual Cocoon sites, with explanations of why, how, etc - Optimisation techniques, (efficient, performant Cocoon) across the whole lifecycle of an application - The secret gems of Cocoon (what do people not know about that is really cool) - Interactive apps, authentication, user tuned content - How to get involved (find out what the community needs from contributers) - Some sessions that focus on technologies that are often used together with Cocoon, with Guru's: - Maven 2 - Spring 2 - FOP 0.92 - Cocoon and Web Services/SOA - Lepido - Some howto's / best practices for - Configuration - Using Spring - Building Cocoon - 10 Reasons to use Cocoon - A What's new in 2.2 and how to use it track with different topics, 5 to 10min per topic. - What's up for Cocoon 3.0? - The Funky Cocoon AJAX tour (with lots of samples!) - A session like moving from xsp and sitemap actions to flowscript and jxtemplate to introduce existing users to the latest Cocoon techniques and guide them in upgrading their older bits of code - A short (!!) introduction to OSGi (what's all that fuzz about?!) - Best practice + case studies for cocoon based Intranet Portals - Integration of Cocoon and Open Source Workflow Servers, Cocoon based Workflow applications in general - Cocoon Forms: meta form application (let the users create form based applications by assembling cocoon forms with the help of CF) - Short, practical case studies: high-level architecture, integrating Cocoon, etc. - How to NOT get lost in Cocoon technologies: flow, binding, xsp, jxtemplate, cforms, authentication, portal, etc. - How does Cocoon provide login, authorization, menu, form processing, templating, integration with backends (database)? - How to create a typical project with cocoon, regarding sitemap hierarchy and organization, class model, deployment, artifacts, where do flows scripts must go, etc? - Case studies showing large web applications - Cocoon for 'non-java' professionals and Cocoon project management - What is the required knowledge in order to hire a professional that should work in a cocoon project? - Does separation of concerns work in a real world situation? - Reducing risk when building large projects with large teams - How to tweak Cocoon for performance - Real numbers on cocoon performance, real hardware and real deployment topology (load balancing, session replication) - A caching tour. How can I use caching effectively and what can I cache - Measuring performance. How can I know at what speed my cocoon site is running? - The Cocoon toolset: tools that can help shorten development time / tools for testing / monitoring And a final note from Bertrand: Talking to community members, I get a feeling that we're using Cocoon in wildly different ways, and I think it's one of its major strengths - let's show this at the GT! (+1 from me!) Many thanks to all who shared their thoughts - it gives so much more insight in what everyone's expecting from a good Cocoon conference. Great! Now, all we have to do is do it 8-) Audience There was some interest from the FOP guys at the ApacheCon Europe to come by at the CocoonGT and (ab)use our hackaton for their own efforts. I guess Cocoon could only benefit from that, so I'd say they are more than welcome to do so! Also, I'd welcome anyone from Forrest, Lenya, Daisy or any other Cocoon-related project at this years Cocoon GetTogether. The more, the marrier! Rooms - We have the possibility of renting an extra (smaller) room during one or more of the 3 days, almost for free. So, we *could* do parallel sessions of some kind Any thoughts?
RE: [GT2006] Call for IDEAS! The 5th Cocoon GetTogether: October 2nd to 4th in Amsterdam, The Netherlands
- optimisation techniques, (efficient, performant Cocoon) across the whole lifecycle of an application - the secret gems of Cocoon (what do people not know about that is really cool) - interactive apps, authentication, user tuned content - how to get involved (find out what the community needs from contributers) Ah... That could be an interesting point... will have more of a think later, Great, thanks, Ross! -- Arje
RE: [GT2006] Cocoon GetTogether 2006 call for subjects
I'd like to see several practical case studies, where people show how they are using Cocoon, the high-level architecture of their apps, what they're integrating Cocoon with, what makes their app unique, etc. We could to 20+10 (20 minutes prez, 10 minutes questions) slots for this, and have at least 4 or 6 of them during the day. Talking to community members, I get a feeling that we're using Cocoon in wildly different ways, and I think it's one of its major strengths - let's show this at the GT! Great, thanks Bertrand! -- Arje
RE: [GT2006] Cocoon GetTogether 2006 call for subjects
Can you already confirm a fixed date? I would like to spread the news (conferences, articels) here in Germany. Please note that the 3rd of October is a national holiday in Germany which I think might make it easier for attendees from here as they can use this day to visit Amsterdam and don't need to take a day off. I haven't received any other serious proposals, so I think I can safely confirm that date. Therefor, this year's Cocoon GT will be held in Amsterdam, on Monday 2nd, Tuesday 3rd and Wednesday 4th of October, from 9AM to 11PM Hurray! Anyway, I asked some people about what they would like to hear at the GT and combined this with my thoughts: - Success Stories (why someone chose Cocoon, for what, what was great and what not) - 10 Reasons to use Cocoon - Comparison of Cocoon with other web frameworks - Why should I upgrade to 2.2? - Some howto's/best practices for - Configuration - Using Spring - Building Cocoon Now, I could imagine that we might do a What's new in 2.2 and how to use it track with different topics, 5 to 10min per topic. And, depending on the state of 3.0, we could do this for 3.0 as well. Cool, thank you very much. Reinhard, where's your list!?!? :) -- Arje
RE: [GT2006] Cocoon GetTogether 2006 call for subjects
BTW - here's my list: - A Funky Cocoon AJAX tour (with lots of samples!) - A glimpse on the Cocoon roadmap (2.2 / 3.0) - Short (!!) introduction to OSGi (what's all that fuzz about?!) -- Arje -Original Message- From: Arje Cahn Posted At: maandag 3 juli 2006 18:01 Posted To: Cocoon Dev List Conversation: [GT2006] Cocoon GetTogether 2006 call for subjects Subject: RE: [GT2006] Cocoon GetTogether 2006 call for subjects I'd like to see several practical case studies, where people show how they are using Cocoon, the high-level architecture of their apps, what they're integrating Cocoon with, what makes their app unique, etc. We could to 20+10 (20 minutes prez, 10 minutes questions) slots for this, and have at least 4 or 6 of them during the day. Talking to community members, I get a feeling that we're using Cocoon in wildly different ways, and I think it's one of its major strengths - let's show this at the GT! Great, thanks Bertrand! -- Arje
[GT2006] Call for IDEAS! The 5th Cocoon GetTogether: October 2nd to 4th in Amsterdam, The Netherlands
Hi folks, We need your ideas! What would YOU like to see at this year's Cocoon GetTogether??? This year's Cocoon conference will be held again in Amsterdam, The Netherlands, from Monday, October 2nd, until Wednesday, October 4th. Faster and funkier than ever! The GetTogether event runs as a series of presentations on different aspects of Apache Cocoon. Several short tracks will give you insight on all aspects of Cocoon, from generator to serializer and from CForms to AJAX, packed with with real success stories and best practices. There's plenty of time for interaction and probing questions. Whether you're a Cocoon developer or user, either expert, beginner, or only curious, this event is for you. Want to know more about the technology and the people behind it? Come join us at this year's Cocoon GetTogether in Amsterdam! But first, we'd like to hear everyone's ideas on WHAT you would really, *really* like to see: * Which parts of Cocoon would you like to see demonstrated? * Which bits of code would you like to see projected on a huge screen in big, *big* letters, with the author right next to it, explaining you exactly how and *why* he wrote it like that? * Which parts of Cocoon do you find utterly complicated and would you like to get some help with? * What would you like your boss to get demonstrated? (convince him to use Cocoon :-) ) * ...maybe you've got some Cocoon wizardry yourself to share at the Lightning Lottery Talks? Everyone is free to send in a list of subjects for which he or she would travel all the way to Amsterdam. There's no program yet. This year's program is up to YOU - so send in those ideas! Here's a couple of them to get you started: - Success stories (why someone chose Cocoon, for what, what was great and what not?) - Comparison of Cocoon with other web frameworks - Why should I upgrade to 2.2? - Some howto's / best practices for - Configuration - Using Spring - Building Cocoon - 10 Reasons to use Cocoon - A What's new in 2.2 and how to use it track with different topics, 5 to 10min per topic. - What's up for Cocoon 3.0? - The Funky Cocoon AJAX tour (with lots of samples!) - A short (!!) introduction to OSGi (what's all that fuzz about?!) - Practical case studies, where people show how they are using Cocoon, the high-level architecture of their apps, what they're integrating Cocoon with, what makes their app unique, etc. We could to 20+10 (20 minutes prez, 10 minutes questions) slots for this, and have at least 4 or 6 of them during the day. We're all using Cocoon in wildly different ways, which is one of its major strengths - let's show this at this year's GetTogether! Please add your thoughts! Kind regards, Arjé Cahn Hippo Oosteinde 11 1017WT Amsterdam The Netherlands Tel +31 (0)20 5224466 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] / www.hippo.nl / [EMAIL PROTECTED] --
[GT2006] Cocoon GetTogether 2006 call for subjects
Hi everyone, There was some discussion at the ApacheCon Europe about the upcoming Cocoon GetTogether. Basically, the idea was to try to come up with a list of talks of which we think would be usable for users to hear. This is not the same as a list of proposals from committers displaying their great ideas (which is important too! :) ), but the other way around. It's just a thought; for a change, maybe it would be good to first think about what users (and of course developers) want to hear, and get them involved in setting up a list of subjects. Next, everyone is free to send in a proposal for a talk as usual, but the difference is that we now have this extra background knowledge about our user's expectations. :) Reinhard has already scribbled down a list of things _he_ would like to see at the GT (please share!), and I'd like to encourage everyone else to add to that list... Thanks! Kind regards, Arjé Cahn Hippo Oosteinde 11 1017WT Amsterdam The Netherlands Tel +31 (0)20 5224466 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] / www.hippo.nl / [EMAIL PROTECTED] --
[GT2006] Call for ideas part 1: summary
Hi Cocoon-dev, Below is a summary of ideas that I received on my first GT2006 email. I'm quite surprised that some of them actually suggest to skip the public talks, or at least to focus even stronger on the Hackaton. Also, I'm suprised that I got *no* response from the cocoon-users list (naive as I am :) ). I'm a little bit worried that the Cocoon GetTogether is becoming too much of a Cocoon DEV-Together... Wouldn't it be good from a community point of view if we open up a little and target 1 whole day to the cocoon-users? This is something I could ask the Users list. Hopefully we can then lower the barrier for people to come to the GetTogether and get involved in Cocoon. I think we could use the GetTogether much more as a marketing event for Cocoon. Pretty much all of the Cocoon core developers show up - why not do shorter, flashier presentations of what you can achieve with Cocoon, right from the core developers?? Add 2 days of Hackaton, with more informal in-depth talks as last year's Cocoon internals. Apart from all that, I've been so free to make a reservation at the Felix Meritis venue where we held the Hackaton last year. For three whole days: Monday 2nd, Tuesday 3rd and Wednesday 4th of October, from 9AM to 11PM :) This is by no means definitive! But I think Felix Meritis had a good vibe (more like the Ghent venue!). I've reserved both the Hackaton Moshpit and the really nice Zuilenzaal, which can hold up to 100-200 people, depending on the setting. This makes us much more flexible. It would even be an option to rent both rooms during the Talks day, so we end up with a three day hackaton + public talks :) Let me know what you think! -- Arjé --oOo-- Helma van der Linden: - Could help - Prefers 2 days hackaton again. - I had the impression that the [extra?] Hackathon day moved Cocoon much more forward than a single 'First Friday' Andrew Savory: - Happy to help - Rome, Milan, Australia, London, but has no objections against Ghent or Amsterdam again - I felt a little wiped-out by the third day last year. But if it's only two days, an early start to the hackathon is a must - I think we could explore hiring the hackathon venue later in the evening and doing a proper beer-n-pizza event Reinhard Poetz: - Amsterdam is a really great town and there is a direct flight from Vienna - October is fine - at least two days for a hackathon and one day with public sessions; thinking more about it, a three days hackathon would be even better. I know that not everybody wants to invest 3 days just for doing programming stuff, but having a location would be great for those (like me) that would want.. Marcus Crafter: - On Australia: Top idea - perhaps somewhere near the beach: http://www.whitsundaytourism.com/ :) Bertrand Delacretaz: - Why not repeat Amsterdam, very convenient in terms of flights from many places - October was good - Two days is fine IMHO, but I'd suggest a two-days Hackathon including talks - Having just a Hackathon, with more or less improvised talks, might be cool and much easier to organize. People could sign up on site to give a talk while we're there, in an informal way. - most information-rich time was the discussion of Cocoon internals - The public talks day is also good, but such talks can also happen at ApacheCon - Venue should stay open (including Internet connection ;-) much longer than last time: 9AM to 10PM Sylvain Wallez: - repeat Amsterdam - October was good - public talks: it makes sense to showcase and promote Cocoon at ApacheCon, reaching a more diverse audience [instead of the Cocoon GT] Ralph Goers: - proposes that it be done on the tutorial days [of the ApacheCon US]: Monday and Tuesday. - proposes that it be held either at the same site as ApacheCon US, or somewhere close by. --oOo--
RE: [GT2006] Call for ideas part 1: summary
I'm quite surprised that some of them actually suggest to skip the public talks, or at least to focus even stronger on the Hackaton. Re-reading my post again, I sound a little bit negative... That was not my intention.. I'm actually very thankful for all your ideas!! :) I just want to be sure that we don't lose track of our users. -- Arje
RE: GetTogether
It looks like ApacheCon US is going to be Oct 9-13 in Austin, TX. Given that the GetTogether is normally around this same time frame I'm afraid it will be virtually impossible for me to attend both. While it wasn't clear in the email, it appears to me that ApacheCon is a little different than what it was in San Diego where the tutorials were Saturday and Sunday. I'm just wondering if it would be possible to overlap the two and do the GetTogether in conjunction with the training days of ApacheCon. I know this is not our usual tradition and would probably increase the cost for many of you, but it also might increase U.S. participation. Thoughts? Hi Ralph, I'm not sure which dates you propose. Do you want to do the GT on Saturday/Sunday? Nevertheless, I guess it would make sense to make sure the GT and the ApacheCon are not on the exact same dates (5 years ago, it was :) ). Arje
RE: VNU Europe moves to Cocoon...
We just finished launching the first of the EU countries here at VNU, powered by Cocoon: Italy. Congratulations, guys!! Cocoon livesites gogogo :-) Kind regards, Arjé Cahn Hippo Oosteinde 11 1017WT Amsterdam The Netherlands Tel +31 (0)20 5224466 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] / www.hippo.nl / [EMAIL PROTECTED] --
[GT2006] The 5th Cocoon GetTogether: call for ideas
Hi folks, Following in Steven's footsteps, I'd hereby like to bootstrap this year's jubilee Cocoon GetTogether. The sun is shining (kind of..), spring is in the air, and we need to start thinking about our beloved annual Cocoon gathering. I believe the outcome of last year's discussion was that we all want the Cocoon GetTogether to be as much of a community driven event as possible. That's why I'm sending this Request for Ideas to the dev and user mailinglists. So here it is - if you got something to say, or have any ideas you'd like to share, please say it now! - Who is willing to organize this year's event? - Where? - When? - How long? - How big? Of course, I think Amsterdam is a really good place for Get Togethers, just as Ghent is, but maybe it's time to move again :).. However, I'd be happy to host the event in Amsterdam again. For now, let's come up with some ideas and get that Cocoon GT community feeling flowing again... Kind regards, Arjé Cahn Hippo Oosteinde 11 1017WT Amsterdam The Netherlands Tel +31 (0)20 5224466 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] / www.hippo.nl / [EMAIL PROTECTED] --
[LIVESITE] Dutch Ministery of Finance: www.minfin.nl
Hi all, I'm proud to announce the go-live of the new website of the Dutch Ministery of Finance, which is using Hippo CMS, which is, as you hopefully all know, running Apache Cocoon :). Please see my (non-official) translation of the official Dutch press release below. - 8 - The Dutch Ministery of Finance has launched it's new website at www.minfin.nl [1]. The new website is using the open source content management system Hippo CMS [2]. This is in line with the desire of the Dutch government to migrate as much as possible to open source software and open standards by the end of 2006. The usage of open source and open standards raises the freedom of choice, cooperation and effectiveness of information systems. The new website contains about 25.000 pages, and has around 10.000 visitors each day. A popular part of the site is the weblog of the Minister of Finance, mr Gerrit Zalm, which receives around 5.000 visitors each day. - 8 - This major achievement would not have been possible without the great work of the Cocoon community [3], for which I'd like to thank you all! Also, I need to thank the awesome team of Cocoon developers that has been working so hard to get this job done on time: Ard Schrijvers, Bart van der Schans, Max Pfingsthorn, Dennis Dam, Jeroen Reijn, Niels van Kampenhout, Andrew Savory, Ugo Cei, Maurizio Pillitu and Gabriele Columbro... And of course all of the Hippo CMS and Ordina people behind the scenes. Next up is the Ministery of Foreign Affairs; and we could definitely use some extra help on this one... In case you're looking for a really cool Cocoon job, please let me know! Thanks, everyone! --- Kind regards, Arjé Cahn Hippo Oosteinde 11 1017WT Amsterdam The Netherlands Tel +31 (0)20 5224466 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] / www.hippo.nl / [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [1] http://www.minfin.nl [2] http://www.hippocms.org [3] http://cocoon.apache.org
RE: XTech 2006 Amsterdam, May 16-19th
Will you attend too? Don't know, probably not, but I'll have to be in Sweden the week after that to given a keynote speech, so I might be able to stop by ;-) Hmmm.. That would be nice! Let's see if there's more cocoonies attending the XTech. I'll be there anyway, and I'd be happy to commit any knowledge about local bars etc, you know the usual thing :) http://www.xtech-conference.org/
XTech 2006 Amsterdam, May 16-19th
Hi there, XTech 2006 (former XMLEurope)will be heldin Amsterdam 16-19 May. They havethe option to request a (free?) room for "related events"- hackton and the likes. Any interest? I could arrange something.. http://www.xtech-conference.org/ Arjé Cahn Hippo Oosteinde 11 1017WT Amsterdam The Netherlands Tel +31 (0)20 5224466 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] / www.hippo.nl --
RE: XTech 2006 Amsterdam, May 16-19th
FYI, I'm on the technical review board of that conference. Will you attend too?
RE: Happy New Year!, Re: Merry Christmas
Happy new year! May 2006 finally bring us the long awaited 2.2 and much more! Are you saying 2.2 will be released May 2006? ;-) Arje
RE: svn commit: r332608 - /cocoon/trunk/src/java/org/apache/cocoon/components/store/impl/EHDefaultStore.java
2 small points: A. Use 2004-2005 instead B. Patch also 2.1.8. ;-) Thanks, Antonio, I will fix this! Arje
RE: [docs] Livesites by working area
Yes, create a doc typoe, add a few relevant fields (including one of tags. Helma, do you know how to do this? If you add the type, I'll start converting the sites.. Arje
[docs] Livesites by working area
Hello, I was browsing through the Livesites pages in Daisy and I was thinking that it might be nice to have the Live Sites categorized by target group instead of Cocoon version number If I were a possible new Cocoon user, I might not be very interested in what version of Cocoon is running which site, but I would be interested in seeing how succesfull others were in the same field.. (especially my competitors) Cocoon is used for / by... - Magazine publishers: VNUNet.com, PCActive.co.uk, .. - Libraries: GoPubMed, .. - Booking sites: World Stay, .. - E-commerce sites: .. - Corporate sites: .. - Design Agencies: Frontage, .. - Product Catalogues: ebigchina.com, .. - Online tutorials: The Connecticut Tutorials, .. - Education: ... - Governmental institutes: .. - Small businesses: .. - BIG businesses: .. ;) This could exist next to the current presentation of Live Sites. WDYT? I would be happy to set this up (need karma! :) ). Kind regards, Arjé Cahn Hippo Oosteinde 11 1017WT Amsterdam The Netherlands Tel +31 (0)20 5224466 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] / www.hippo.nl --
RE: [docs] Livesites by working area
Sounds good. Problem with having it alongside is that we'd then need to maintain two lists. Yes... We can't get Daisy to autogenerate those lists based on metadata can we? Perhaps yours is more useful? I would be happy to set this up (need karma! :) ). Create yourself an account on Daisy, and I'll give you karma. Ok, account arje. Thanks Upayavira! Arje
RE: [VOTE] Move to Jira (Was: Re: Jira or Bugzilla...)
Ok, there we go, here's the vote... [X] +1 Yes please, let's move all our bugs to Jira and set it up to work in the following way: +1 Arjé
RE: [VOTE] new committer: Max Pfingsthorn
So I have the pleasure of proposing Max as our new committer! My first vote.. Happy to send it to you, Max :-) +1
RE: [Docs] Articles on Cocoon
- Cocoon and CMS by Steven, focus on the role/advantages of Cocoon in Daisy Darn, Steven, you got me there. I'd be happy to write a piece about knowledge sharing in intranets or on the web. Generating relationships, using team folders, finding articles, using thesauri and taxonomies, etc. Practical stuff that really adds value, no fuzzy knowledge management buzz. Also not about Wiki's (I'll leave that one to Steven ;) ). WDYT?
RE: [VOTE] new committer: Max Pfingsthorn
You don't count!!! You hired the guy! :-P :-P :-P Yes! And damn glad I did. :) Heck, I'd vote twice if I could! Anyhow, I'm glad to see that Max got to be voted on and here's my (non binding) +1 You Mister Moral! ;p Arje
[GT2005] Cocoon GetTogether 2005 is over... But wait! There's more!
Hi all, Many thanks to all speakers that have made the program friday so nice.. And of course, all the attendees that were there at the Hackathon days, the dinners and the presentation day. I had fun. And now.. Goodies! You can relive the full GT day at the following page, which holds all slides, the booklet and the audio recordings: http://www.cocoongt.org/Slides-and-recordings.html I hope you enjoy them! Kind regards, Arjé Cahn Hippo Oosteinde 11 1017WT Amsterdam The Netherlands Tel +31 (0)20 5224466 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] / www.hippo.nl --
RE: Where are my spare ribs ?
Whoops Let me correct that! I'll put it on the site. Thanks for pointing out... Arjé -Original Message- From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Luca Morandini Posted At: dinsdag 4 oktober 2005 18:36 Posted To: Cocoon Dev List Conversation: Where are my spare ribs ? Subject: Where are my spare ribs ? Folks, it's probably only me missing the announcement... but I fail to see the 6th of Oct. meeting-point for the dinner on the GT website: could someone point it tp me ? Regards, Luca Morandini www.lucamorandini.it
RE: Where are my spare ribs ?
Spareribs location [1]:
Restaurant Moeders Mooiste ('mum's prettiest')
Heinekenplein 5
The Heinekenplein is in the PIPE district, and the restaurant is near the
(tram) LINE :-)
Get it? I guess it must've been Heineken who really invented the first pipeline
- at this very place! :-%
Oh, here's the sitemap:
[1] http://www.cocoongt.org/binaries/1_map2.png
-- Arje (who is really looking forward to the GT)
-Original Message-
From: Arje Cahn
Posted At: woensdag 5 oktober 2005 8:08
Posted To: Cocoon Dev List
Conversation: Where are my spare ribs ?
Subject: RE: Where are my spare ribs ?
Whoops Let me correct that! I'll put it on the site.
Thanks for pointing out...
Arjé
-Original Message-
From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Luca Morandini
Posted At: dinsdag 4 oktober 2005 18:36
Posted To: Cocoon Dev List
Conversation: Where are my spare ribs ?
Subject: Where are my spare ribs ?
Folks,
it's probably only me missing the announcement... but I fail
to see the
6th of Oct. meeting-point for the dinner on the GT website: could
someone point it tp me ?
Regards,
Luca Morandini
www.lucamorandini.it
[GT2005] Thursday dinner
Spareribs location [1]:
Restaurant Moeders Mooiste ('mum's prettiest')
Heinekenplein 5
We meet at 19:00 hours!
Hackaton venue closes at 17:00 so you have some time to get there..
Oh, here's the sitemap:
[1] http://www.cocoongt.org/binaries/1_map2.png
-- Arjé
[GT2005] notetaking
we're taking notes now at www.jotlive.com/hippo/Cocoon%20GT feel free to join! Kind regards, Met vriendelijke groet, Arjé Cahn Hippo Oosteinde 11 1017WT Amsterdam The Netherlands Tel +31 (0)20 5224466 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] / www.hippo.nl --
RE: [GT2005] notetaking
Apparentely, you have to be invited to be able to join this page... Please reply on this thread and I'll invite you.. -Original Message- From: Arje Cahn Posted At: woensdag 5 oktober 2005 10:59 Posted To: Cocoon Dev List Conversation: [GT2005] notetaking Subject: [GT2005] notetaking we're taking notes now at www.jotlive.com/hippo/Cocoon%20GT feel free to join! Kind regards, Met vriendelijke groet, Arjé Cahn Hippo Oosteinde 11 1017WT Amsterdam The Netherlands Tel +31 (0)20 5224466 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] / www.hippo.nl --
[GT2005] Buglisting?
Hi all, Should we do the bugtable again at the hackaton? And is someone willing to printout the bugreports or should I arrange that? (Bertrand...? I know you're busy..) Kind regards, Arjé Cahn Hippo Oosteinde 11 1017WT Amsterdam The Netherlands Tel +31 (0)20 5224466 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] / www.hippo.nl --
RE: [GT2005] Buglisting?
Hi Bertrand, I am, won't have time to do it before I leave, but if there's a printer there we'll find a way. Great, thanks. I'm not really sure we'll have a printer available But we'll think of something. We can always print in our offices which is not too far away. Arje
[GT2005] Jotspot?
Hi all, Stefano was talking about JotSpot in his RT; did anyone try this? JotSpot Live [1] seems to be the SubEthaEdit-for-those-without-a-Mac (indeed, I'm talking purely for myself ;-) ). Might be nice for notetaking at the GT? [1] http://www.jotlive.com/ Kind regards, Arjé Cahn Hippo Oosteinde 11 1017WT Amsterdam The Netherlands Tel +31 (0)20 5224466 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] / www.hippo.nl --
RE: [GT2005] Mirroring Apache SVN?
Interesting idea. I just chatted about it on #svn, and it turns out to be _MUCH_ simpler than that. All we need is someone to do a Unix and a Windows checkout of each repo (so four checkouts in total). Then, they tar/zip them up, and put them on a local web/ftp server, and people can download those and off they go. Much easier than a SVN mirror. Great! OTOH, I agree that sending a HEADUP email to the list next tuesday might be fine too. I'll promise I will do my checkout the day before ;) About the network connection: there's 2048 kbit available and it'll be Wireless. Hubs are available too, but bring your own cable. Right now, there's about 45 attendees so it should be fine, but doing 45 x 40 mb downloads simultaniously will be awfull Thanks Arjé
[GT2005] Reminder: Cocoon GetTogether registration
Hi all, GT registration deadline is tonight. After tomorrow, the registration will stay open but we can't promise you any goodies anymore!! Arjé Registration ends on September 28th, so be quick! We already have 70 attendees (from 11 countries), and the counter is still rising.. If you're unable to register for any reason, but still want to come, please drop me an email. Cocoon GetTogether 2005 Friday, October 7th in Amsterdam, The Netherlands Hackathon on October 5th 6th http://www.cocoongt.org 09:00-09:15 Welcome 09:15-09:30 Opening talk from the PMC chair: State of the Project 09:30-10:30 Bertrand Delacretaz: Cocoon Bricks: best practices by example 10:30-11:00 BREAK 11:00-11:45 Andrew Savory: Simplifying Cocoon 11:45-12:30 Daniel Fagerstrom: Cocoon Blocks 12:30-13:30 LUNCH 13:30-14:15 Sylvain Wallez and Max Pfingsthorn: Cocoon Forms: Ajax and form libraries 14:15-15:00 Torsten Schlabach: All about URIs or: Find your resources 15:00-15:30 BREAK 15:30-16:15 Torsten Curdt: Rapid Application Development with Cocoon 16:15-17:00 Jack et al / Nico Verwer / Pier Funagalli: Performance track 17:00-18:00 Reception See http://www.cocoongt.org/Program.html for in-depth information on the talks. Kind regards, Arjé Cahn Hippo Oosteinde 11 1017WT Amsterdam The Netherlands Tel +31 (0)20 5224466 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] / www.hippo.nl -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[GT2005] Reminder: Cocoon GetTogether registration ends this wednesday!
Registration ends on September 28th, so be quick! We already have 70 attendees (from 11 countries), and the counter is still rising.. If you're unable to register for any reason, but still want to come, please drop me an email. Cocoon GetTogether 2005 Friday, October 7th in Amsterdam, The Netherlands Hackathon on October 5th 6th http://www.cocoongt.org 09:00-09:15 Welcome 09:15-09:30 Opening talk from the PMC chair: State of the Project 09:30-10:30 Bertrand Delacretaz: Cocoon Bricks: best practices by example 10:30-11:00 BREAK 11:00-11:45 Andrew Savory: Simplifying Cocoon 11:45-12:30 Daniel Fagerstrom: Cocoon Blocks 12:30-13:30 LUNCH 13:30-14:15 Sylvain Wallez and Max Pfingsthorn: Cocoon Forms: Ajax and form libraries 14:15-15:00 Torsten Schlabach: All about URIs or: Find your resources 15:00-15:30 BREAK 15:30-16:15 Torsten Curdt: Rapid Application Development with Cocoon 16:15-17:00 Jack et al / Nico Verwer / Pier Funagalli: Performance track 17:00-18:00 Reception See http://www.cocoongt.org/Program.html for in-depth information on the talks. Kind regards, Arjé Cahn Hippo Oosteinde 11 1017WT Amsterdam The Netherlands Tel +31 (0)20 5224466 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] / www.hippo.nl --
RE: [vote-results] Arje Cahn as a new committer
Hi! The vote ended up with 26 +1 and nothing else! Wow.. Many thanks for everyone's votes! As soon as Arje comes back from vacation next week, I'll ask him for his preferred loging name and send the account creation request. I've had a really relaxing week and am fully charged for the upcoming weeks :=) Arje
RE: Posters (was: Re: [GT2005] Cocoon GT Talks!)
Hi Helma, Could you discuss your ideas with Sandra (s.vanarendonk at hippo nl)? She'll love hearing them. She's currently out of the office, but will be there on monday again when I'm away.. She's doing already a lot for the GT but maybe she could pick this one up too..! Thanks Arje -Original Message- From: Bertrand Delacretaz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: dinsdag 13 september 2005 17:01 To: dev@cocoon.apache.org Subject: Re: Posters (was: Re: [GT2005] Cocoon GT Talks!) Le 13 sept. 05, à 14:30, hepabolu a écrit : ...Well, you either need flipovers or posterboards (i.e. panels usually used to create mobile walls on which a poster can be glued or pinned). OTOH clean walls could work as well as long as you're allowed to stick something on it... I like the idea of an open wall where people can post Cocoon-related stuff. The form is not terribly important, but of course nicer things get more attention ;-) -Bertrand
RE: Re: Shall we switch to Jira?
Hi there, I think that anything at this point is better than BugZilla! :-) Is there a clear bug migration procedure from bugzilla to jira? See http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira/docs/v3.3.1/bugzilla_import.html (The Atlassian's are smart boys. They'll do anything to allow you to port your old stuff to their new stuff - Bugzilla, JSPWiki, you name it and there's a converter available.) We've been using Jira for years, and are *very* happy with it. We have customers working directly with Jira, and they love the roadmap functionalities. How can I get Bugzilla to tell me what issues are scheduled to be fixed for the next release? Of course, this might not be a commercial environment, but I think it still counts for OSS too. Arje
[GT2005] Program online: it's time to register!
Cocoon GetTogether 2005 Friday, October 7th in Amsterdam, The Netherlands Hackathon on October 5th 6th http://www.cocoongt.org 09:00-09:15 Welcome 09:15-09:30 Opening talk from the PMC chair: State of the Project 09:30-10:30 Bertrand Delacretaz: Cocoon Bricks: best practices by example 10:30-11:00 BREAK 11:00-11:45 Andrew Savory: Simplifying Cocoon 11:45-12:30 Daniel Fagerstrom: Cocoon Blocks 12:30-13:30 LUNCH 13:30-14:15 Sylvain Wallez and Max Pfingsthorn: Cocoon Forms: Ajax and form libraries 14:15-15:00 Torsten Schlabach: All about URIs or: Find your resources 15:00-15:30 BREAK 15:30-16:15 Torsten Curdt: Rapid Application Development with Cocoon 16:15-17:00 Jack et al / Nico Verwer / Pier Funagalli: Performance track 17:00-18:00 Reception See http://www.cocoongt.org/Program.html for in-depth information on the talks. Registration is open, and ends on September 28th, so be quick! - In 4 weeks time, for the fourth year, there'll be plenty of Cocoon talks, hacking, food, beers and laughs - everything you've been waiting for since you left Ghent on October 12th last year... The yearly Cocoon GetTogether runs as a series of presentations by Cocoon developers, sharing their knowledge about the Apache Cocoon framework in a leisurely fashion, with plenty of time for interaction and probing questions. Whether you're a Cocoon developer or user, either expert, beginner, or only curious about it, this event is for you. Want to know more about the technology and the people behind it? Come join us at this year's Cocoon GetTogether in Amsterdam! Last year's GetTogether was a big succes, drawing no less than 138 people from 18 different countries to Ghent, Belgium. If you want to know more about last year's event, visit http://www.orixo.com/events/gt2004. Kind regards, Arjé Cahn Hippo Oosteinde 11 1017WT Amsterdam The Netherlands Tel +31 (0)20 5224466 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] / www.hippo.nl --
RE: [vote] Arje Cahn as a new Cocoon committer
Hi all, Many thanks for all the positive votes that have been brought out so far! Although it's not final yet, I'd like to express that I would be very happy to receive committership from the Cocoon community. For me, this comes as a big, pleasant surprise. I've always enjoyed being around in the Cocoon community, and Sylvain's expression that I should be made a committer simply validates what I've already felt for a long time: one can feel accepted as a Cocoon community member, just by being oneself. You don't need to be a committer to be welcome, and that's exactly why I've enjoyed all those moments where Cocoon developers meet up and why I was so happy to be able to host this year's GetTogether. Now, being proposed by that same community for becoming a committer, I sense that my feeling was right. Whatever the contribution; as long as it's good, it's very well appreciated. Organizing the GT is my way of saying thank you to this great community, and I wasn't expecting to get one in return! Not now, and *CERTAINLY* not like this ! :-D So, I'll do my best to live up to being a committer. Although my commits might not be in code (yet! ;) ), I promise I'll do my best to commit plenty. I'd like to thank everyone for collaborating on such a great project, and also I'd like to thank my colleagues at Hippo, who've been doing so much great work on and with Cocoon, and who should definitely get more time to spend on Cocoon commitment too :). Thanks, everyone! Now, let's get this GT program online!! 8-D Arjé -Original Message- From: Sylvain Wallez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: donderdag 8 september 2005 20:42 Posted To: Cocoon Dev List Conversation: [vote] Arje Cahn as a new Cocoon committer Subject: [vote] Arje Cahn as a new Cocoon committer Hi all, I'd like to be the voice of a general opinion among Cocoon developers that Arjé Cahn should be made a Cocoon committer. Arjé has been using Cocoon for years and has taken the responsibility of organizing the upcoming GetTogether, which shows how much he cares for Cocoon and its community. And we value this a lot. This isn't the usual committer vote, since Arjé hasn't provided a lot of code patches. But quoting Stefano, committer means 'being committed to the project' rather than being able to commit code. There are some precendents for this: Matthew Langham and Andrew Savory were made committers, because we felt they were important citizens of the Cocoon community. The same applies to Arjé today. Please cast your votes! Sylvain -- Sylvain WallezAnyware Technologies http://people.apache.org/~sylvain http://www.anyware-tech.com Apache Software Foundation Member Research Technology Director
RE: [GT2005] Cocoon GT Talks!
BTW: at the conferences I usually attend, there is always the opportunity to put up posters, i.e. a large paper that explains the topic. Is there space available to put up poster boards with posters (either in A0 size or just plain A4 pages pasted together) for the talks that don't make it? Not to mention the cost. Could do. What do you have in mind exactly? Arje
[GT2005] The program: draft
Hi all, Here's a draft version of the GT program. 09:00-09:15 Welcome 09:15-09:30 Opening talk from the PMC chair: State of the Project 09:30-10:30 Bertrand Delacretaz: Cocoon Bricks: best practices by example 10:30-11:00 BREAK 11:00-11:45 Andrew Savory: Simplifying Cocoon 11:45-12:30 Daniel Fagerstrom: Cocoon Blocks 12:30-13:30 LUNCH 13:30-14:15 Sylvain Wallez: AJAX + Max Pfingsthorn: CForms made easy: libraries 14:15-15:00 Torsten Schlabach: All about URIs or: Find your resources 15:00-15:30 BREAK 15:30-16:15 Torsten Curdt: Rapid Application Development with Cocoon 16:15-17:00 Vadim/Jack: Cocoon performance / memory consumption and XSLT + Nico Verwer: Cocoon performance on big documents + Pier Fumagalli? 17:00-18:00 Reception Wow! Looks great. What about a townhall meeting? We could squeeze it in between 17:00 and 17:30. It's possible to stay until 19:00 hours, but then we'll have to pay a little bit extra... (if we have enough people this will be fine) Some interesting thoughts came up, should we do something with those? - Lightning talks - Presentations on paper - BoF sessions Please let me know if there are any objections or remarks! I might have mixed some things on the PMC list? :/ Also, if people are interesting in sponsoring, please drop me an email. Kind regards, Arjé Cahn Hippo Oosteinde 11 1017WT Amsterdam The Netherlands Tel +31 (0)20 5224466 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] / www.hippo.nl --
RE: [GT2005] Cocoon GT Talks!
My opinion is that selecting which talks to run is a hard task, the best thing would be to setup a second track...but if it's not possible you'll have to make hard choices. Well Physically it would be possible to do tracks in two rooms but it's mainly a financial matter.. If someone reading this is willing to sponsor a second room, we'll do it! If a second track is not possible, how about having some lightning talks instead of just crossing out stuff? Could do, but there's very limited time at the presentations day. We could, however, move some talks to the second Hackaton day. Here's my (personal and biased) attempt at classifying the talks, with thanks! Arje
RE: [GT2005] Cocoon GT Talks!
06 - Sylvain Wallez Something about AJAX How could we not have ajax in amsterdam? ROFL! :-) You're right, can't be a coincidence. Arje
RE: [GT2005] Capture Audio for Podcast?
Hi all, We just need to make sure that one (better two) people take care of the recording and publishing. We also need to make sure that the audio system will provide a suitable connection. There will be microphones, we got the little wireless ones, and given the fact that the conference room is actually a *cinema* I think they'll have a pretty decent audio system too... There's a technician available to help us with this kind of things, and if someone would be willing to team up with him/her and get the recording going, that would be very much appreciated! I'm afraid I'm not the right guy for A/V stuff.. I was thinking cocoongt.org ... the content could be purely static ... or we could build something smarter. But I don't really know details of how that site is hosted, what other options there might be, etc. Others probably know better. The CocoonGT.org site is hosted on one of our dedicated machines. It's a Cocoon website with Hippo CMS behind it running on a pretty decent Linux box. If we could setup a list of requirements for the recording, also in terms of hardware/software/memory/disk/bandwith, I'm sure we'll be able to set it up. I'd be happy to host the recordings, at least during the GT itself, although maybe afterwards it might be good to switch to an Apache mirrored environment (? not sure if that's possible). BTW; If possible I would prefer video! Regards Arjé
[GT2005] Cocoon GT Talks!
things I have in mind, the main one being replacing the current client-side JS I wrote to handle Ajax request by Prototype and Scriptaculous, the JS library used in Ruby on Rails. Even more fun! 07 - Bertrand Delacretaz Cocoon Bricks: best practices by example The Cocoon Bricks example application demonstrates all the essential aspects of a typical Cocoon-based web application: java components management at the application level, database access using object-relational mappings, and of course the Power Trio: Pipelines, Flowscript and Cocoon Forms, all tied together in a consistent whole. The application, which will be available online in source form, contains a minimal amount of code, structured and written to be easy to understand. External libraries include Hivemind for component management, OJB for database access and Derby as the database, all easily replaceable with equivalents if desired. We will study code snippets of all the important parts, from the build system to the component interactions and final application stages. This talk is open to Cocoon beginners, although a basic understanding of the main Cocoon concepts (sitemaps, flowscript, pipelines, as presented in the Supersonic Tour) will help in getting the most from it. 08 - Alfred Nathaniel XSP Tips and Traps Although XSP is no longer considered a core technology by the Cocoon avantgarde, it is still a powerful tool for generating dynamic webpages. Its stability, robustness, and similarity to the well-known ASP/JSP concepts makes it a good fit for moving an established team from another framework to Cocoon. The talk draws from three years of XSP experience and wants to warn of common pitfalls and point to less known details of XSP and logicsheet processing. Knowledge of Java, XSLT, and Cocoon pipelines are assumed. 09 - Andrew Savory / Massimo Sonego What we get up to with Cocoon I've been talking with Massimo at Otego about a talk we were considering doing together, but we're wondering if it might fit a lightning talks session rather than a full-size session. Are there any plans to do shorter talks? We were thinking it might be fun to do some quick what we get up to with Cocoon examples, more from a newbie/business user perspective than a techie perspective, and I'm sure a few others would be able to join in, too. 10 - Michael Wechner What Daisy, Hippo and Lenya can learn from each other! Instead of doing a shootout, let's discuss and focuse on where the various Cocoon based CMS can learn from each other and maybe even collaborate ... PROPOSED SPEAKERS: Steven Noels (haven't asked him yet ;-) Arje Cahn (haven't asked him yet ;-) Michael Wechner (he won't be on vacation this year ;-) 11 - Max Pfingsthorn CForms libraries: How Cocoon forms libraries make your life easier ([AC] Max hasn't finished his proposal yet, since he's buried himself in GSOC code, but he'd like to do a short talk on what he did, possibly combined with Sylvain's AJAX talk) 12 - Lars Huttar Sitemap Browser: Using Cocoon to Explore Cocoon Sitemaps A simple Cocoon sitemap can be clean and elegant. But as pipelines aggregate calls to other pipelines, and the number of pipelines increases, a sitemap can become difficult to follow. Sitemap Browser (SB) addresses this problem by visualizing a sitemap as an HTML document, displaying each pipeline next to the pipeline(s) it calls, and by hyperlinking related pipelines to each other for easy navigation. SB works to some degree on unmodified sitemaps but works better if you add sb:* markup to help handle the harder cases. SB can also be a convenient aid in unit testing, as a framework for linking to a sample invocation of each pipeline. 13 - Jack Ivers / Joh Berry / Scott Roth / Vadim Gritsenko Performance / XSLT processors running with Cocoon The folks here at Agile (Jack Ivers, Joh Berry, Scott Roth, Vadim Gritsenko) did a fairly in-depth analysis of XSLT processors running with Cocoon, looking at performance and memory consumption. Not completely scientific but we generated more information than we have been able to find elsewhere. We specifically looked at Xalan and Saxon, had Gregor but never completed testing with it. Anyway, if there was strong interest in this getting presented, we are willing to polish up our work and also try to get a Gregor test in. 14 - Nico
[GT2005] FINAL CALL: GetTogether 2005 CFP - deadline tomorrow!
Hi all, Final call! The CFP ends tomorrow. We've received a bunch of first class talks, but if you still have something on your mind, don't hesitate and please send me your thoughts! The agenda should be available on the site by monday, so everyone knows what to expect and start signing up like crazy!! Could someone please add a link to the GT on the cocoon.apache.org homepage? The ApacheCon 2005 ad is still on there.. Arjé Cocoon GetTogether 2005 October 5,6,7th, Amsterdam, The Netherlands. http://www.cocoongt.org. DEADLINE for proposal : Friday September 2th, 2005 Proposals should be sent to: info at cocoongt.org In 6 weeks time there'll be plenty of Cocoon talks, hacking, food, beers, laughs - everything you've been waiting for since you left Ghent on October 12th last year... We are looking for you to come on stage and talk about all things Cocoon. People who want to present during the GetTogether are kindly requested to send in a presentation proposal. Presentation topics will be screened for cluefulness, in the sense that we don't want any commercial presentations. Introductory, tutorial-like stuff into new or advanced topics are much appreciated though. Please send in your presentation proposal to info at cocoongt.org - see below for a template to help you in filling out a proposal. GUIDELINES FOR SUBMITTING A PROPOSAL Do not include proprietary or confidential material in your proposals. We will assume that you do not consider any material included in the proposals to be confidential. All conference presentations are vendor-agnostic and should focus on technology. Your proposal should contain the following information: 1. Proposed title for the talk/session/debate. 2. Brief outline or abstract of the talk/session/debate * Please be as concise as possible. * Please write in third-person context. * Please list any prerequisite sessions or knowledge you feel is essential. * Indicate, if applicable, if this is a beginning or advanced talk. 3. For all proposed speakers, include: speaker name, title, company, address, email, phone number, fax and website. 4. Biography for the proposed speaker(s) showing relevant experience and qualification to speak on the proposed subject matter (not to exceed 250 words). 5. Primary contact/founder name, title, company, address, email and phone number. All speakers are required to submit copies of their presentations before September 21st, 2005. These presentations will be included in the conference notes. All presentations will be made available after the conference in electronic (PDF) format. Arjé Cahn, on behalf of the GT 2005 organising team. Hippo Oosteinde 11 1017WT Amsterdam The Netherlands Tel +31 (0)20 5224466 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] / www.hippo.nl --
RE: [GT2005] FINAL CALL: GetTogether 2005 CFP - deadline tomorrow!
Hello! I think I'll have enough talks, but it would be nice if someone could do an opening talk of half an hour.. Anyone interested? Arjé -Original Message- From: Arje Cahn Posted At: donderdag 1 september 2005 11:36 Posted To: Cocoon Dev List Conversation: [GT2005] FINAL CALL: GetTogether 2005 CFP - deadline tomorrow! Subject: [GT2005] FINAL CALL: GetTogether 2005 CFP - deadline tomorrow! Hi all, Final call! The CFP ends tomorrow. We've received a bunch of first class talks, but if you still have something on your mind, don't hesitate and please send me your thoughts! The agenda should be available on the site by monday, so everyone knows what to expect and start signing up like crazy!! Could someone please add a link to the GT on the cocoon.apache.org homepage? The ApacheCon 2005 ad is still on there.. Arjé Cocoon GetTogether 2005 October 5,6,7th, Amsterdam, The Netherlands. http://www.cocoongt.org. DEADLINE for proposal : Friday September 2th, 2005 Proposals should be sent to: info at cocoongt.org In 6 weeks time there'll be plenty of Cocoon talks, hacking, food, beers, laughs - everything you've been waiting for since you left Ghent on October 12th last year... We are looking for you to come on stage and talk about all things Cocoon. People who want to present during the GetTogether are kindly requested to send in a presentation proposal. Presentation topics will be screened for cluefulness, in the sense that we don't want any commercial presentations. Introductory, tutorial-like stuff into new or advanced topics are much appreciated though. Please send in your presentation proposal to info at cocoongt.org - see below for a template to help you in filling out a proposal. GUIDELINES FOR SUBMITTING A PROPOSAL Do not include proprietary or confidential material in your proposals. We will assume that you do not consider any material included in the proposals to be confidential. All conference presentations are vendor-agnostic and should focus on technology. Your proposal should contain the following information: 1. Proposed title for the talk/session/debate. 2. Brief outline or abstract of the talk/session/debate * Please be as concise as possible. * Please write in third-person context. * Please list any prerequisite sessions or knowledge you feel is essential. * Indicate, if applicable, if this is a beginning or advanced talk. 3. For all proposed speakers, include: speaker name, title, company, address, email, phone number, fax and website. 4. Biography for the proposed speaker(s) showing relevant experience and qualification to speak on the proposed subject matter (not to exceed 250 words). 5. Primary contact/founder name, title, company, address, email and phone number. All speakers are required to submit copies of their presentations before September 21st, 2005. These presentations will be included in the conference notes. All presentations will be made available after the conference in electronic (PDF) format. Arjé Cahn, on behalf of the GT 2005 organising team. Hippo Oosteinde 11 1017WT Amsterdam The Netherlands Tel +31 (0)20 5224466 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] / www.hippo.nl --
[GT2005] REMINDER: GetTogether 2005 Call For Participation - deadline in 7 days!
Cocoon GetTogether 2005 October 5,6,7th, Amsterdam, The Netherlands. http://www.cocoongt.org. DEADLINE for proposal : Friday September 2th, 2005 Proposals should be sent to: info at cocoongt.org In 6 weeks time there'll be plenty of Cocoon talks, hacking, food, beers, laughs - everything you've been waiting for since you left Ghent on October 12th last year... We are looking for you to come on stage and talk about all things Cocoon. People who want to present during the GetTogether are kindly requested to send in a presentation proposal. Presentation topics will be screened for cluefulness, in the sense that we don't want any commercial presentations. Introductory, tutorial-like stuff into new or advanced topics are much appreciated though. Please send in your presentation proposal to info at cocoongt.org - see below for a template to help you in filling out a proposal. GUIDELINES FOR SUBMITTING A PROPOSAL Do not include proprietary or confidential material in your proposals. We will assume that you do not consider any material included in the proposals to be confidential. All conference presentations are vendor-agnostic and should focus on technology. Your proposal should contain the following information: 1. Proposed title for the talk/session/debate. 2. Brief outline or abstract of the talk/session/debate * Please be as concise as possible. * Please write in third-person context. * Please list any prerequisite sessions or knowledge you feel is essential. * Indicate, if applicable, if this is a beginning or advanced talk. 3. For all proposed speakers, include: speaker name, title, company, address, email, phone number, fax and website. 4. Biography for the proposed speaker(s) showing relevant experience and qualification to speak on the proposed subject matter (not to exceed 250 words). 5. Primary contact/founder name, title, company, address, email and phone number. All speakers are required to submit copies of their presentations before September 21st, 2005. These presentations will be included in the conference notes. All presentations will be made available after the conference in electronic (PDF) format. Arjé Cahn, on behalf of the GT 2005 organising team. Hippo Oosteinde 11 1017WT Amsterdam The Netherlands Tel +31 (0)20 5224466 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] / www.hippo.nl --
RE: [GT2005] ANNOUNCE: Cocoon GetTogether registration NOW open
Hi Ralph, Yes, there is a cost... We've tried to keep it *superlow*, but since we need to pay for the room, we ask for a small fee of 25 EUR per day. I hope that's OK with you? Arjé -Original Message- From: Ralph Goers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: maandag 22 augustus 2005 19:47 Posted To: Cocoon Dev List Conversation: [GT2005] ANNOUNCE: Cocoon GetTogether registration NOW open Subject: Re: [GT2005] ANNOUNCE: Cocoon GetTogether registration NOW open Thanks. Ralph Joerg Heinicke wrote: Is there a cost for the hackathon? See the button of the registration page. Ouch! *Bottom* of course. Joerg
[GT2005] ANNOUNCE: Cocoon GetTogether registration NOW open
Cocoon GetTogether 2005 Friday, October 7th in Amsterdam, The Netherlands Hackathon on October 5th 6th http://www.cocoongt.org In 6 weeks time, for the fourth year, there'll be plenty of Cocoon talks, hacking, food, beers and laughs - everything you've been waiting for since you left Ghent on October 12th last year... The yearly Cocoon GetTogether runs as a series of presentations by Cocoon developers, sharing their knowledge about the Apache Cocoon framework in a leisurely fashion, with plenty of time for interaction and probing questions. Whether you're a Cocoon developer or user, either expert, beginner, or only curious about it, this event is for you. Want to know more about the technology and the people behind it? Come join us at this year's Cocoon GetTogether in Amsterdam! Last year's GetTogether was a big succes, drawing no less than 138 people from 18 different countries to Ghent, Belgium. If you want to know more about last year's program, visit http://www.orixo.com/events/gt2004/program.html. The GetTogether participation cost is 85 EUR - Hackathon and events not included. You can pay either through an international money transfer or through Paypal. Registration for the GetTogether is *now* open, until September 28th. Be sure to register on time! For more information and to register right away, visit http://www.cocoongt.org. Hope to see you in October in Amsterdam! On behalf of the GT 2005 organising team, Arjé Cahn Hippo Oosteinde 11 1017WT Amsterdam The Netherlands Tel +31 (0)20 5224466 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] / www.hippo.nl --
RE: [GT2005] REPOST: GetTogether 2005 Call For Participation - deadline in less than 3 weeks
Hi Ralph, I'm trying to get approval from my employer to attend. great! :-) Do you know what the conference cost will be? Can you recommend any hotels? The costs will be displayed on the site this week, and you'll be able to sign up right away. Since this is a community effort, we're trying to keep the costs for attending as low as possible. There'll be some suggestions for hotels and their prices on the website too. We've called a couple of them in both budget, medium and *expensive* ranges :-P Make sure you hire a bike, too. They're cheap and will really add to your Amsterdam-experience! :) Please check back on www.cocoongt.org ! Hope to see you in October. Arjé I've never been to Amsterdam (or Europe for that matter) so any help is appreciated. Ralph Arje Cahn wrote: Cocoon GetTogether 2005 October 5,6,7th, Amsterdam, The Netherlands. http://www.cocoongt.org. DEADLINE for proposal : Friday September 2th, 2005 Proposals should be sent to: info at cocoongt.org In 7 weeks time there'll be plenty of Cocoon talks, hacking, food, beers, laughs - everything you've been waiting for since you left Ghent on October 12th last year... We are looking for you to come on stage and talk about all things Cocoon. People who want to present during the GetTogether are kindly requested to send in a presentation proposal. Presentation topics will be screened for cluefulness, in the sense that we don't want any commercial presentations. Introductory, tutorial-like stuff into new or advanced topics are much appreciated though. Please send in your presentation proposal to info at cocoongt.org - see below for a template to help you in filling out a proposal. GUIDELINES FOR SUBMITTING A PROPOSAL Do not include proprietary or confidential material in your proposals. We will assume that you do not consider any material included in the proposals to be confidential. All conference presentations are vendor-agnostic and should focus on technology. Your proposal should contain the following information: 1. Proposed title for the talk/session/debate. 2. Brief outline or abstract of the talk/session/debate * Please be as concise as possible. * Please write in third-person context. * Please list any prerequisite sessions or knowledge you feel is essential. * Indicate, if applicable, if this is a beginning or advanced talk. 3. For all proposed speakers, include: speaker name, title, company, address, email, phone number, fax and website. 4. Biography for the proposed speaker(s) showing relevant experience and qualification to speak on the proposed subject matter (not to exceed 250 words). 5. Primary contact/founder name, title, company, address, email and phone number. All speakers are required to submit copies of their presentations before September 21st, 2005. These presentations will be included in the conference notes. All presentations will be made available after the conference in electronic (PDF) format. Arjé Cahn, on behalf of the GT 2005 organising team. Hippo Oosteinde 11 1017WT Amsterdam The Netherlands Tel +31 (0)20 5224466 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] / www.hippo.nl --
[GT2005] REPOST: GetTogether 2005 Call For Participation - deadline in less than 3 weeks
Cocoon GetTogether 2005 October 5,6,7th, Amsterdam, The Netherlands. http://www.cocoongt.org. DEADLINE for proposal : Friday September 2th, 2005 Proposals should be sent to: info at cocoongt.org In 7 weeks time there'll be plenty of Cocoon talks, hacking, food, beers, laughs - everything you've been waiting for since you left Ghent on October 12th last year... We are looking for you to come on stage and talk about all things Cocoon. People who want to present during the GetTogether are kindly requested to send in a presentation proposal. Presentation topics will be screened for cluefulness, in the sense that we don't want any commercial presentations. Introductory, tutorial-like stuff into new or advanced topics are much appreciated though. Please send in your presentation proposal to info at cocoongt.org - see below for a template to help you in filling out a proposal. GUIDELINES FOR SUBMITTING A PROPOSAL Do not include proprietary or confidential material in your proposals. We will assume that you do not consider any material included in the proposals to be confidential. All conference presentations are vendor-agnostic and should focus on technology. Your proposal should contain the following information: 1. Proposed title for the talk/session/debate. 2. Brief outline or abstract of the talk/session/debate * Please be as concise as possible. * Please write in third-person context. * Please list any prerequisite sessions or knowledge you feel is essential. * Indicate, if applicable, if this is a beginning or advanced talk. 3. For all proposed speakers, include: speaker name, title, company, address, email, phone number, fax and website. 4. Biography for the proposed speaker(s) showing relevant experience and qualification to speak on the proposed subject matter (not to exceed 250 words). 5. Primary contact/founder name, title, company, address, email and phone number. All speakers are required to submit copies of their presentations before September 21st, 2005. These presentations will be included in the conference notes. All presentations will be made available after the conference in electronic (PDF) format. Arjé Cahn, on behalf of the GT 2005 organising team. Hippo Oosteinde 11 1017WT Amsterdam The Netherlands Tel +31 (0)20 5224466 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] / www.hippo.nl --
[GT2005] Cocoon GetTogether 2005: Call for Proposals
Dear all, This year's Cocoon GetTogether is coming near! October 5,6,7th, Amsterdam, The Netherlands. http://www.cocoongt.org. In 8 weeks time there'll be plenty of Cocoon talks, hacking, food, beers, laughs - everything you've been waiting for since you left Ghent on October 12th last year... We're very happy that we've got the change to host the GetTogether in Amsterdam this year and we'll do everything possible to recreate the GetTogether's unique inspiring ambiance again... On popular request this year extended with an extra hackathon day! In the next few weeks we will spread all the details about the conference plan, logistics, costs and the like. The details will be available at the official Cocoon GetTogether website (http://www.cocoongt.org) as soon as possible. For now, it's our pleasure to officially open the Call For Proposals phase. We are looking for you to come on stage and talk about all things Cocoon. People who want to present during the GetTogether are kindly requested to send in a presentation proposal. Presentation topics will be screened for cluefulness, in the sense that we don't want any commercial presentations. Introductory, tutorial-like stuff into new or advanced topics are much appreciated though. Please send in your presentation proposal to info at cocoongt.org - see below for a template to help you in filling out a proposal. Also, it might be good if we start thinking about how we'll be filling the two Hackathon days..? Please jot your ideas down on the Wikipage: http://wiki.apache.org/cocoon/GT2005Hackaton. Finally, I want to thank the people that responded to Steven's request for assistence. Also I'd like to send a big thanks to all the people that made the Cocoon GetTogether to such a wonderful experience in the last couple of years! I hope we'll be able to provide you with some extra sweet chairs this year ;-). GUIDELINES FOR SUBMITTING A PROPOSAL Do not include proprietary or confidential material in your proposals. We will assume that you do not consider any material included in the proposals to be confidential. All conference presentations are vendor-agnostic and should focus on technology. Your proposal should contain the following information: 1. Proposed title for the talk/session/debate. 2. Brief outline or abstract of the talk/session/debate * Please be as concise as possible. * Please write in third-person context. * Please list any prerequisite sessions or knowledge you feel is essential. * Indicate, if applicable, if this is a beginning or advanced talk. 3. For all proposed speakers, include: speaker name, title, company, address, email, phone number, fax and website. 4. Biography for the proposed speaker(s) showing relevant experience and qualification to speak on the proposed subject matter (not to exceed 250 words). 5. Primary contact/founder name, title, company, address, email and phone number. DEADLINE for proposal : September 2th, 2005 Proposals should be sent to: info at cocoongt.org. All speakers are required to submit copies of their presentations before September 21st, 2005. These presentations will be included in the conference notes. All presentations will be made available after the conference in electronic (PDF) format. Arjé Cahn, on behalf of the GT 2005 organising team. Hippo Oosteinde 11 1017WT Amsterdam The Netherlands Tel +31 (0)20 5224466 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] / www.hippo.nl --
[GT2005] Dates and locations
Hi all, It's my pleasure to announce that we've booked the Cocoon GetTogether 2005 conference areas on the following dates: Wednesday October 5th -- Hackaton day 1 in the Felix Meritis building, Amsterdam Thursday October 6th -- Hackaton day 2 in the Felix Meritis building, Amsterdam Friday October 7th -- Cocoon GT 2005 Presentations day in the NEMO Science Museum, Amsterdam Thanks for your kind reactions so far and looking forward to meeting everyone in Amsterdam! Some information about the locations About the Shaffyroom in Felix Meritis [1]: The oval room was the location where the department of Physics of the Felix Meritis Foundation helt it's experiments in physics, natural history, mathematics, astronomy and other new scientific discoveries. Meetings were helt regularly on tuesdayevenings and thursdays... http://www.bma.amsterdam.nl/adam/pics/groot/felix_3.jpg -- Hackaton 18th century style About NEMO Science Museum, Lumière Cinema room [2] The NEMO science and technology center is housed in a striking verdigris building facing the historic port of Amsterdam... If you want to give your event, meeting or presentation an aura of inventiveness, the national science center NEMO is an excellent location. Greeting your guests in NEMO will give your gathering an entirely unique and inspiring character... :-) Access to the conference rooms includes free entrance to the museum. http://www.flickr.com/photos/stevenn/19876919/in/pool-cocoongt2005/ Both locations are in the centre of Amsterdam. The NEMO is in walking distance of the central train station, with a direct connection to Schiphol airport (15 minutes by train + a 10 minute walk). The Felix Meritis building is situated at one of the beautiful canals of Amsterdam and easily reached by public transport. [1] http://www.felix.meritis.nl/ [2] http://www.e-nemo.nl/ Kind regards, Arjé Cahn Hippo Oosteinde 11 1017WT Amsterdam The Netherlands Tel +31 (0)20 5224466 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] / www.hippo.nl --
RE: [GT2005] News, vote and more news
[X] 5/6/7 October (Wed-Fri) Kind regards, Arjé Cahn Hippo Oosteinde 11 1017WT Amsterdam The Netherlands Tel +31 (0)20 5224466 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] / www.hippo.nl --
RE: [GT2005] News, vote and more news
Presumably you're aiming for hackathon on days 12, with day 3 for the main presentations? Yes. The presentations will be on either wednesday the 5th, or friday the 7th. Also, is it worth trying to do a deal with one of the larger hotels in Amsterdam, so as many of us as possible are all in one place, possibly securing a reduction in price? Mmmm. Yes; could do that! Hurry up October, I can't wait! I can imagine - have 4 (!) nights of grabbing beers should sound attractive to you ;) Arj
RE: London Cocoon Beers
Any other Apache or Cocoon people are welcome to join us! Cool, Reijn and I will be there! Arjé
GT2004 was brilliant
Hi everyone, One big thanks to everyone involved in organizing another brilliant G(h)e(n)tTogether. I had great fun talking to everyone and hearing all about the latest Cocoon news, and I'm definitely looking forward to see you all next year. Diner was great, beers were great, the talks were great, well just about everything actually.. Apart for the headache yesterdaymorning ([EMAIL PROTECTED] you English), I hope to do it all over again next year, hopefully in Ghent again! Thanks! Kind regards, Arjé Cahn Hippo Oosteinde 11 1017WT Amsterdam The Netherlands Tel +31 (0)20 5224466 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] / www.hippo.nl --
[Stammtisch] Evening GetTogether in Amsterdam, April 12
Hi, Attending the XMLEurope and Gilbane conferences on April 12th, or just simply in or around Amsterdam? Join us at the Amsterdam Cocoon Stammtisch! We'll be having some beers, food and Cocoon inspiration in a nice small bar. Where? Café Gambrinus, Ferdinand Bolstraat 180, which is close to the RAI conferencing area. When? Monday, April 12th, starting at 7 o'clock pm. I've made a reservation for a big table and (reasonably priced) diner. Please let me know if you want to join for diner or just come for the beer so I can tell the chef how many people will be eating. If any Southern neighbours are thinking of paying a visit - I took that into account. They *do* have Belgian beers. ;-) I'll put a page on the Wiki describing how to get to the location. Hope to see you on the 12th! Arjé Hippo
RE: [Stammtisch] Evening GetTogether in Amsterdam, April 19
Damn! Terrible mistake.. The date should be April 19th !! Sorry. (April 12 is the registration deadline of XMLEurope :=/ ) Arje -Original Message- From: Steven Noels [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Thursday, March 25, 2004 3:29 PM Posted To: Cocoon Dev List Conversation: [Stammtisch] Evening GetTogether in Amsterdam, April 12 Subject: Re: [Stammtisch] Evening GetTogether in Amsterdam, April 12 On 25 Mar 2004, at 14:42, Arje Cahn wrote: Hi, Attending the XMLEurope and Gilbane conferences on April 12th, or just simply in or around Amsterdam? Join us at the Amsterdam Cocoon Stammtisch! We'll be having some beers, food and Cocoon inspiration in a nice small bar. Where? Café Gambrinus, Ferdinand Bolstraat 180, which is close to the RAI conferencing area. When? Monday, April 12th, starting at 7 o'clock pm. I'm in - definitely! Belgian beers in Holland... quite an experience! /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source Java XMLAn Orixo Member Read my weblog athttp://blogs.cocoondev.org/stevenn/ stevenn at outerthought.orgstevenn at apache.org
RE: workflow block commited
Hi Gianugo, I'm personnaly not the one with the OSWorkflow experience. I'll ask the right person to post his experiences. Arje -Original Message- From: Gianugo Rabellino [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Monday, March 01, 2004 7:42 PM Posted To: Cocoon Dev List Conversation: workflow block commited Subject: Re: workflow block commited Arje Cahn wrote: I'm interested in a workflow block as well. We currently have experience using OpenSymphony Workflow and would like to share this on the Cocoon list. Please do. I'm really interested in that, I don't quite get what all this workflow fuss is about, so it would be good to know how you're integrating external workflow engines in a publishing environment. Ciao, -- Gianugo Rabellino Pro-netics s.r.l. - http://www.pro-netics.com Orixo, the XML business alliance - http://www.orixo.com (Blogging at: http://www.rabellino.it/blog/)
