Re: [OT] Mac OS X and Java development (was: Re: [jira] Updated: (COCOON-2063))

2008-04-04 Thread Andrew Savory
Hey,

2008/4/4 Joerg Heinicke [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  Which makes me wonder again how to do serious Java development with Mac OS
 X. I know a few of you guys are using Mac OS X. How do you do it? Whenever I
 start this I get annoyed very fast. The missing Java sources are only the
 tip of the iceberg. Every tree representation in Eclipse just sucks.
 Keyboard navigation in Mac OS X is completely inconsistent, especially with
 Java programs. There seems to be no serious SVN command line client (or at
 least the CollabNet download page is just self-linking at the moment:
 http://downloads.open.collab.net/binaries.html). And so on ... Windows has
 also bunch of annoying issues but there is at least consistency and usually
 there is a solution for everything. Do you guys all switch to Linux when it
 comes to Java development? :)

Nah, we all run windows on our macs, of course ;-)

Seriously though, you get used to the inconsistencies of keyboard
bindings. In fairness, eclipse on mac goes some way toward Mac-ness
(try Apple-, for preferences). SVN ships with OS X and I've never had
a problem with it (though a mature GUI svn client like tortoisesvn
would be nice sometimes).


Andrew.


[OT] Mac OS X and Java development (was: Re: [jira] Updated: (COCOON-2063))

2008-04-03 Thread Joerg Heinicke

On 03.04.2008 23:33, Jörg Heinicke (JIRA) wrote:


With Mac OS X I also have no access to the source code of the JDK.


Which makes me wonder again how to do serious Java development with Mac 
OS X. I know a few of you guys are using Mac OS X. How do you do it? 
Whenever I start this I get annoyed very fast. The missing Java sources 
are only the tip of the iceberg. Every tree representation in Eclipse 
just sucks. Keyboard navigation in Mac OS X is completely inconsistent, 
especially with Java programs. There seems to be no serious SVN command 
line client (or at least the CollabNet download page is just 
self-linking at the moment: 
http://downloads.open.collab.net/binaries.html). And so on ... Windows 
has also bunch of annoying issues but there is at least consistency and 
usually there is a solution for everything. Do you guys all switch to 
Linux when it comes to Java development? :)


Joerg