RE: [Vote] Release plan for 2.1.9

2006-03-22 Thread Matthew Langham
 
 On 21.03.2006 09:20, Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
 
  So the proposed plan to release 2.1.9 is:
  - Start code freeze on the 31st of March
  - Release on the 6th of April (if nothing bad happens)
 
+1

Matthew



[Vote] Release plan for 2.1.9

2006-03-21 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Although we already agreed informaly on the release plan, we should
do a formal vote.
As I won't be able to do the release on the 31st of March, we have to
delay it by one week (unless someone else volunteers to do it).

So the proposed plan to release 2.1.9 is:
- Start code freeze on the 31st of March
- Release on the 6th of April (if nothing bad happens)

Please cast your votes
Carsten
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Re: [Vote] Release plan for 2.1.9

2006-03-21 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz

Le 21 mars 06 à 09:20, Carsten Ziegeler a écrit :


...So the proposed plan to release 2.1.9 is:
- Start code freeze on the 31st of March
- Release on the 6th of April (if nothing bad happens)..


+1

-Bertrand

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Re: [Vote] Release plan for 2.1.9

2006-03-21 Thread hepabolu

Bertrand Delacretaz said the following on 21-03-2006 09:46:

Le 21 mars 06 à 09:20, Carsten Ziegeler a écrit :


...So the proposed plan to release 2.1.9 is:
- Start code freeze on the 31st of March
- Release on the 6th of April (if nothing bad happens)..


+1

Bye, Helma



Re: [Vote] Release plan for 2.1.9

2006-03-21 Thread Andrew Savory

Carsten Ziegeler wrote:


Please cast your votes


+1

Thanks,

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Re: [Vote] Release plan for 2.1.9

2006-03-21 Thread Bruno Dumon
On Tue, 2006-03-21 at 09:20 +0100, Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
 Although we already agreed informaly on the release plan, we should
 do a formal vote.
 As I won't be able to do the release on the 31st of March, we have to
 delay it by one week (unless someone else volunteers to do it).
 
 So the proposed plan to release 2.1.9 is:
 - Start code freeze on the 31st of March
 - Release on the 6th of April (if nothing bad happens)
 
 Please cast your votes

+1

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Re: [Vote] Release plan for 2.1.9

2006-03-21 Thread Reinhard Poetz

Carsten Ziegeler wrote:

Although we already agreed informaly on the release plan, we should
do a formal vote.
As I won't be able to do the release on the 31st of March, we have to
delay it by one week (unless someone else volunteers to do it).

So the proposed plan to release 2.1.9 is:
- Start code freeze on the 31st of March
- Release on the 6th of April (if nothing bad happens)


+1 (but won't spend much time for tests)

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RE: [Vote] Release plan for 2.1.9

2006-03-21 Thread Nathaniel Alfred
 So the proposed plan to release 2.1.9 is:
 - Start code freeze on the 31st of March
 - Release on the 6th of April (if nothing bad happens)

+1

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Re: [Vote] Release plan for 2.1.9

2006-03-21 Thread Pier Fumagalli

On 21 Mar 2006, at 08:20, Carsten Ziegeler wrote:


So the proposed plan to release 2.1.9 is:
- Start code freeze on the 31st of March
- Release on the 6th of April (if nothing bad happens)


+1 please!

Pier

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Re: [Vote] Release plan for 2.1.9

2006-03-21 Thread Ugo Cei


Il giorno 21/mar/06, alle ore 09:20, Carsten Ziegeler ha scritto:


So the proposed plan to release 2.1.9 is:
- Start code freeze on the 31st of March
- Release on the 6th of April (if nothing bad happens)

Please cast your votes


+1

Ugo

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RE: [Vote] Release plan for 2.1.9

2006-03-21 Thread Max Pfingsthorn

 So the proposed plan to release 2.1.9 is:
 - Start code freeze on the 31st of March
 - Release on the 6th of April (if nothing bad happens)

+1

max


Re: [Vote] Release plan for 2.1.9

2006-03-21 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
 Although we already agreed informaly on the release plan, we should
 do a formal vote.
 As I won't be able to do the release on the 31st of March, we have to
 delay it by one week (unless someone else volunteers to do it).

 So the proposed plan to release 2.1.9 is:
 - Start code freeze on the 31st of March
 - Release on the 6th of April (if nothing bad happens)

 Please cast your votes
   

+1

Sylvain

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Re: [Vote] Release plan for 2.1.9

2006-03-21 Thread Giacomo Pati

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So the proposed plan to release 2.1.9 is:
- Start code freeze on the 31st of March
- Release on the 6th of April (if nothing bad happens)

Please cast your votes


+1

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Re: [Vote] Release plan for 2.1.9

2006-03-21 Thread Gianugo Rabellino
On 3/21/06, Carsten Ziegeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 So the proposed plan to release 2.1.9 is:
 - Start code freeze on the 31st of March
 - Release on the 6th of April (if nothing bad happens)

 Please cast your votes

+1
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Re: [Vote] Release plan for 2.1.9

2006-03-21 Thread Daniel Fagerstrom

Carsten Ziegeler skrev:

Although we already agreed informaly on the release plan, we should
do a formal vote.
As I won't be able to do the release on the 31st of March, we have to
delay it by one week (unless someone else volunteers to do it).

So the proposed plan to release 2.1.9 is:
- Start code freeze on the 31st of March
- Release on the 6th of April (if nothing bad happens)

Please cast your votes
Carsten
  

+1

/Daniel



Re: [Vote] Release plan for 2.1.9

2006-03-21 Thread Antonio Gallardo

Carsten Ziegeler wrote:


Although we already agreed informaly on the release plan, we should
do a formal vote.
As I won't be able to do the release on the 31st of March, we have to
delay it by one week (unless someone else volunteers to do it).

So the proposed plan to release 2.1.9 is:
- Start code freeze on the 31st of March
- Release on the 6th of April (if nothing bad happens)

Please cast your votes
Carsten
 


+1

Best Regards,

Antonio Gallardo


Re: [Vote] Release plan for 2.1.9

2006-03-21 Thread Vadim Gritsenko

Carsten Ziegeler wrote:


So the proposed plan to release 2.1.9 is:
- Start code freeze on the 31st of March
- Release on the 6th of April (if nothing bad happens)



+1

Vadim



Re: [Vote] Release plan for 2.1.9

2006-03-21 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
 Although we already agreed informaly on the release plan, we should
 do a formal vote.
 As I won't be able to do the release on the 31st of March, we have to
 delay it by one week (unless someone else volunteers to do it).
 
 So the proposed plan to release 2.1.9 is:
 - Start code freeze on the 31st of March
 - Release on the 6th of April (if nothing bad happens)
 
 Please cast your votes
+1
Carsten

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Re: [Vote] Release plan for 2.1.9

2006-03-21 Thread Jorg Heymans

Carsten Ziegeler wrote:

 So the proposed plan to release 2.1.9 is:
 - Start code freeze on the 31st of March
 - Release on the 6th of April (if nothing bad happens)

+1



Re: [Vote] Release plan for 2.1.9

2006-03-21 Thread Jean-Baptiste Quenot
* Carsten Ziegeler:

 Although we  already agreed  informaly on  the release  plan, we
 should do a formal vote.

+0 I don't see the point of voting for such an obvious decision.

Is there a  rule requiring new releases to be  first approved by a
vote?  I  mean new  releases should be  automatic.  IMHO  it's not
very useful to cast any vote for a maintenance release in a stable
branch.
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Re: [Vote] Release plan for 2.1.9

2006-03-21 Thread Pier Fumagalli

On 21 Mar 2006, at 17:42, Jean-Baptiste Quenot wrote:

* Carsten Ziegeler:


Although we  already agreed  informaly on  the release  plan, we
should do a formal vote.


+0 I don't see the point of voting for such an obvious decision.

Is there a  rule requiring new releases to be  first approved by a
vote?  I  mean new  releases should be  automatic.  IMHO  it's not
very useful to cast any vote for a maintenance release in a stable
branch.


http://cocoon.apache.org/devinfo/releasing.html

Pier



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Re: [Vote] Release plan for 2.1.9

2006-03-21 Thread Reinhard Poetz

Jean-Baptiste Quenot wrote:

* Carsten Ziegeler:



Although we  already agreed  informaly on  the release  plan, we
should do a formal vote.



+0 I don't see the point of voting for such an obvious decision.

Is there a  rule requiring new releases to be  first approved by a
vote?  I  mean new  releases should be  automatic.  IMHO  it's not
very useful to cast any vote for a maintenance release in a stable
branch.


The PMC has to vote about the actual software artifact but there is no rule that 
we have to vote that we will do a release. After the many attempts to do a 2.1.9 
release in the past, I think that Carsten wanted to be sure that this time 
everybody is on board.


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Re: [Vote] Release plan for 2.1.9

2006-03-21 Thread Jean-Baptiste Quenot
* Pier Fumagalli:

 On 21 Mar 2006, at 17:42, Jean-Baptiste Quenot wrote:

  * Carsten Ziegeler:
 
   Although we already agreed informaly on the release plan, we
   should do a formal vote.
 
  +0  I don't  see  the  point of  voting  for  such an  obvious
  decision.
 
  Is there a rule requiring new releases to be first approved by
  a vote?  I  mean new releases should be  automatic.  IMHO it's
  not very useful to cast any  vote for a maintenance release in
  a stable branch.

 http://cocoon.apache.org/devinfo/releasing.html

This document states that we have  to vote once the new version is
tagged, to  be sure that there  is no showstopper.  So  we are not
applying the rule, right?
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Re: [Vote] Release plan for 2.1.9

2006-03-21 Thread Jean-Baptiste Quenot
* Reinhard Poetz:

 The PMC has to vote about the actual software artifact but there
 is no rule that we have to vote that we will do a release. After
 the many  attempts to do  a 2.1.9 release  in the past,  I think
 that Carsten  wanted to be sure  that this time everybody  is on
 board.

Just to  be clear: I  think Carsten  is doing  a valuable  work as
release manager.  It's just that I  feel this vote useless, I mean
just go ahead.  We might vote once the release is tagged.
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Re: [Vote] Release plan for 2.1.9

2006-03-21 Thread Reinhard Poetz

Jean-Baptiste Quenot wrote:

* Reinhard Poetz:



The PMC has to vote about the actual software artifact but there
is no rule that we have to vote that we will do a release. After
the many  attempts to do  a 2.1.9 release  in the past,  I think
that Carsten  wanted to be sure  that this time everybody  is on
board.



Just to  be clear: I  think Carsten  is doing  a valuable  work as
release manager.  It's just that I  feel this vote useless, I mean
just go ahead.  We might vote once the release is tagged.


Then the PMC *has to* vote.

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Voting on releases? (was: [Vote] Release plan for 2.1.9)

2006-03-21 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz

Le 21 mars 06 à 18:42, Jean-Baptiste Quenot a écrit :


...Is there a  rule requiring new releases to be  first approved by a
vote?...


Maybe not, but we've been doing it this way for about 25 years and it  
works ;-)


Seriously, making sure we agree on release plans (code freeze dates  
etc.) is a Good Thing - I've seen several projects arguing or  
disagreeing on releases, so it's certainly good to be a bit careful  
and to make sure everyone is on the same page.


It doesn't cost much and there are at least  social benefits.

So, +1 for voting on release plans ;-)

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Re: [Vote] Release plan for 2.1.9

2006-03-21 Thread Joerg Heinicke

On 21.03.2006 09:20, Carsten Ziegeler wrote:


So the proposed plan to release 2.1.9 is:
- Start code freeze on the 31st of March
- Release on the 6th of April (if nothing bad happens)


+1

Jörg


Re: [Vote] Release plan for 2.1.9

2006-03-21 Thread Ralph Goers

Carsten Ziegeler wrote:


Although we already agreed informaly on the release plan, we should
do a formal vote.
As I won't be able to do the release on the 31st of March, we have to
delay it by one week (unless someone else volunteers to do it).

So the proposed plan to release 2.1.9 is:
- Start code freeze on the 31st of March
- Release on the 6th of April (if nothing bad happens)

Please cast your votes
Carsten
 


+1.  Hopefully nothing bad will happen.

Ralph


Re: [Vote] Release plan for 2.1.9

2006-03-21 Thread David Crossley
Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
 Although we already agreed informaly on the release plan, we should
 do a formal vote.
 As I won't be able to do the release on the 31st of March, we have to
 delay it by one week (unless someone else volunteers to do it).
 
 So the proposed plan to release 2.1.9 is:
 - Start code freeze on the 31st of March
 - Release on the 6th of April (if nothing bad happens)
 
 Please cast your votes

+1

-David


Re: Voting on releases? (was: [Vote] Release plan for 2.1.9)

2006-03-21 Thread David Crossley
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
 Jean-Baptiste Quenot a ?crit :
 
 ...Is there a  rule requiring new releases to be  first approved by a
 vote?...
 
 Maybe not, but we've been doing it this way for about 25 years and it  
 works ;-)

I think that there is a requirement for PMCs to vote
on all releases. Cocoon doesn't yet have its project
guidelines, but other PMC guidelines are definite.
Most say majority approval is required.

 Seriously, making sure we agree on release plans (code freeze dates  
 etc.) is a Good Thing - I've seen several projects arguing or  
 disagreeing on releases, so it's certainly good to be a bit careful  
 and to make sure everyone is on the same page.
 
 It doesn't cost much and there are at least  social benefits.
 
 So, +1 for voting on release plans ;-)

+1, i agree that we should vote on the release plan
as well.

-David