[jira] Commented: (COCOON-1680) New design/ layout proposal for Cocoon documentation

2005-11-10 Thread Milan Andrejevic (JIRA)
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Milan Andrejevic commented on COCOON-1680:
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Where can I find ASF logo, new version of the feather (IIRC ASF) in vector 
format, or large raster format?
This would help a lot.


 New design/ layout proposal for Cocoon documentation
 

  Key: COCOON-1680
  URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COCOON-1680
  Project: Cocoon
 Type: Improvement
   Components: - Documentation
 Reporter: Milan Andrejevic
 Priority: Minor
  Attachments: asf20051107.zip, asf20051108.zip, screenshot.gif, screenshot.gif

 I made new design/ layout proposal for Cocoon documentation. Just one html 
 and screen css. I understand you need to modernize site (see Upayavira 
 comment for COCOON-1679). This is my try, I hope you like it.
 There are  two layouts user can choose. Layout info is stored in cookie 
 _asfstyle for 30 days.
 Added access keys on top menu.
 Navigation on right contains only sub-section selected form top menu
 Minimal resolution set to 800px.
 Starting design is done in Macromedia Fireworks (_src/cocoon.png) were you 
 can find all picture slices.
 I have checked this design in:
 Windows:
   Firefox 1.0.7
   Internet Explorer 6.0
   Opera 8.5
 Linux:
   Firefox 1.0.7
   Konqueror 3.3.2
   Mozilla 1.7.5
   Netscape 7.2
   Lynx

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[jira] Commented: (COCOON-1680) New design/ layout proposal for Cocoon documentation

2005-11-09 Thread Helma van der Linden (JIRA)
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Helma van der Linden commented on COCOON-1680:
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Right, I like the second version better, because it's less cluttered, but 
Upayavira is right: it still has strong resemblance to the old site.

Do get wild and surprise us. I'd suggest to stick with blue (in whatever shade) 
to link back to old site. Also, keep the Cocoon logo (the white letters with 
the dots). I'm not sure if you can remove the apache logo with the feather (and 
just keep the feather), i.e. if there are rules on that. It would surely free 
up space.

Keep up the good work.

 New design/ layout proposal for Cocoon documentation
 

  Key: COCOON-1680
  URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COCOON-1680
  Project: Cocoon
 Type: Improvement
   Components: - Documentation
 Reporter: Milan Andrejevic
 Priority: Minor
  Attachments: asf20051107.zip, asf20051108.zip, screenshot.gif, screenshot.gif

 I made new design/ layout proposal for Cocoon documentation. Just one html 
 and screen css. I understand you need to modernize site (see Upayavira 
 comment for COCOON-1679). This is my try, I hope you like it.
 There are  two layouts user can choose. Layout info is stored in cookie 
 _asfstyle for 30 days.
 Added access keys on top menu.
 Navigation on right contains only sub-section selected form top menu
 Minimal resolution set to 800px.
 Starting design is done in Macromedia Fireworks (_src/cocoon.png) were you 
 can find all picture slices.
 I have checked this design in:
 Windows:
   Firefox 1.0.7
   Internet Explorer 6.0
   Opera 8.5
 Linux:
   Firefox 1.0.7
   Konqueror 3.3.2
   Mozilla 1.7.5
   Netscape 7.2
   Lynx

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[jira] Commented: (COCOON-1680) New design/ layout proposal for Cocoon documentation

2005-11-09 Thread Upayavira (JIRA)
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Upayavira commented on COCOON-1680:
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Keep the feather, in some form, but _much_ smaller.

 New design/ layout proposal for Cocoon documentation
 

  Key: COCOON-1680
  URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COCOON-1680
  Project: Cocoon
 Type: Improvement
   Components: - Documentation
 Reporter: Milan Andrejevic
 Priority: Minor
  Attachments: asf20051107.zip, asf20051108.zip, screenshot.gif, screenshot.gif

 I made new design/ layout proposal for Cocoon documentation. Just one html 
 and screen css. I understand you need to modernize site (see Upayavira 
 comment for COCOON-1679). This is my try, I hope you like it.
 There are  two layouts user can choose. Layout info is stored in cookie 
 _asfstyle for 30 days.
 Added access keys on top menu.
 Navigation on right contains only sub-section selected form top menu
 Minimal resolution set to 800px.
 Starting design is done in Macromedia Fireworks (_src/cocoon.png) were you 
 can find all picture slices.
 I have checked this design in:
 Windows:
   Firefox 1.0.7
   Internet Explorer 6.0
   Opera 8.5
 Linux:
   Firefox 1.0.7
   Konqueror 3.3.2
   Mozilla 1.7.5
   Netscape 7.2
   Lynx

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[jira] Commented: (COCOON-1680) New design/ layout proposal for Cocoon documentation

2005-11-09 Thread Vadim Gritsenko (JIRA)
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http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COCOON-1680?page=comments#action_12357191 
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Vadim Gritsenko commented on COCOON-1680:
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IIRC ASF has newer version of the feather - the one which was used on AC2004 
hackaton tshirts - I think it should be better then current one. Probably PRC 
should have it...

 New design/ layout proposal for Cocoon documentation
 

  Key: COCOON-1680
  URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COCOON-1680
  Project: Cocoon
 Type: Improvement
   Components: - Documentation
 Reporter: Milan Andrejevic
 Priority: Minor
  Attachments: asf20051107.zip, asf20051108.zip, screenshot.gif, screenshot.gif

 I made new design/ layout proposal for Cocoon documentation. Just one html 
 and screen css. I understand you need to modernize site (see Upayavira 
 comment for COCOON-1679). This is my try, I hope you like it.
 There are  two layouts user can choose. Layout info is stored in cookie 
 _asfstyle for 30 days.
 Added access keys on top menu.
 Navigation on right contains only sub-section selected form top menu
 Minimal resolution set to 800px.
 Starting design is done in Macromedia Fireworks (_src/cocoon.png) were you 
 can find all picture slices.
 I have checked this design in:
 Windows:
   Firefox 1.0.7
   Internet Explorer 6.0
   Opera 8.5
 Linux:
   Firefox 1.0.7
   Konqueror 3.3.2
   Mozilla 1.7.5
   Netscape 7.2
   Lynx

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[jira] Commented: (COCOON-1680) New design/ layout proposal for Cocoon documentation

2005-11-08 Thread Milan Andrejevic (JIRA)
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http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COCOON-1680?page=comments#action_12357024 
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Milan Andrejevic commented on COCOON-1680:
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I made some changes according to your suggestions. At the first the aim was to 
make new skin for 
http://forrest.zones.apache.org/ft/build/cocoon-docs/2.1/index.html, but I 
realize that this could be universal skin or all document base pages regarding 
Cocoon, of course if you like it.
You can easily exclude sub navigation if you don't need it by removing 
p class=sub.../p


 New design/ layout proposal for Cocoon documentation
 

  Key: COCOON-1680
  URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COCOON-1680
  Project: Cocoon
 Type: Improvement
   Components: - Documentation
 Reporter: Milan Andrejevic
 Priority: Minor
  Attachments: asf20051107.zip, screenshot.gif

 I made new design/ layout proposal for Cocoon documentation. Just one html 
 and screen css. I understand you need to modernize site (see Upayavira 
 comment for COCOON-1679). This is my try, I hope you like it.
 There are  two layouts user can choose. Layout info is stored in cookie 
 _asfstyle for 30 days.
 Added access keys on top menu.
 Navigation on right contains only sub-section selected form top menu
 Minimal resolution set to 800px.
 Starting design is done in Macromedia Fireworks (_src/cocoon.png) were you 
 can find all picture slices.
 I have checked this design in:
 Windows:
   Firefox 1.0.7
   Internet Explorer 6.0
   Opera 8.5
 Linux:
   Firefox 1.0.7
   Konqueror 3.3.2
   Mozilla 1.7.5
   Netscape 7.2
   Lynx

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[jira] Commented: (COCOON-1680) New design/ layout proposal for Cocoon documentation

2005-11-08 Thread Upayavira (JIRA)
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Upayavira commented on COCOON-1680:
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Personally, I'd say be more bold. What you're designing still feels like the 
old site. I'd like to see our site looking fresh, new, modern, but still 
connected to the 'Cocoon' brand, with the logo, maybe with colours, etc.

So, be wild. Then we'll let this community restrain you. But if you start 
restrained, I'm scared we'll end up with something boring :-(

 New design/ layout proposal for Cocoon documentation
 

  Key: COCOON-1680
  URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COCOON-1680
  Project: Cocoon
 Type: Improvement
   Components: - Documentation
 Reporter: Milan Andrejevic
 Priority: Minor
  Attachments: asf20051107.zip, asf20051108.zip, screenshot.gif, screenshot.gif

 I made new design/ layout proposal for Cocoon documentation. Just one html 
 and screen css. I understand you need to modernize site (see Upayavira 
 comment for COCOON-1679). This is my try, I hope you like it.
 There are  two layouts user can choose. Layout info is stored in cookie 
 _asfstyle for 30 days.
 Added access keys on top menu.
 Navigation on right contains only sub-section selected form top menu
 Minimal resolution set to 800px.
 Starting design is done in Macromedia Fireworks (_src/cocoon.png) were you 
 can find all picture slices.
 I have checked this design in:
 Windows:
   Firefox 1.0.7
   Internet Explorer 6.0
   Opera 8.5
 Linux:
   Firefox 1.0.7
   Konqueror 3.3.2
   Mozilla 1.7.5
   Netscape 7.2
   Lynx

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[jira] Commented: (COCOON-1680) New design/ layout proposal for Cocoon documentation

2005-11-07 Thread Helma van der Linden (JIRA)
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http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COCOON-1680?page=comments#action_12356951 
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Helma van der Linden commented on COCOON-1680:
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Thanks for the work done, it really looks much more modern.

I like the general layout and the simplicity of the menu and main content 
window.

I noticed a kind of top level menu in the bar at the top. I find this very 
cluttered, i.e. too many entries. Maybe you could go one level up for that or 
reduce it to:

- about Cocoon (about us, status, and other info on downloads, svn access, 
mailing list, links etc)
- user guide (narrative info about Cocoon, i.e. explanations of concepts, 
beginners' info etc)
- reference guide (more in-depth info about various aspects of Cocoon)
- apidocs

and the two Cocoon/ASF links at the right. I do like this: simple and clear. 
Although you might change ASF to Apache since not every one is familiar with 
the meaning of ASF.

I noticed lines above certain letters of the links. I assume they are used for 
keyboard shortcuts? If so, the idea is fabulous, but I would suggest to move 
the line below the letter or change the color of the letter. Both are more 
compatible with user expectations.

I like it that the search bar is less prominent but as a whole I find the top 
block very cluttered. Is it possible to reduce the left image with the feather? 



 New design/ layout proposal for Cocoon documentation
 

  Key: COCOON-1680
  URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COCOON-1680
  Project: Cocoon
 Type: Improvement
   Components: - Documentation
 Reporter: Milan Andrejevic
 Priority: Minor
  Attachments: asf20051107.zip, screenshot.gif

 I made new design/ layout proposal for Cocoon documentation. Just one html 
 and screen css. I understand you need to modernize site (see Upayavira 
 comment for COCOON-1679). This is my try, I hope you like it.
 There are  two layouts user can choose. Layout info is stored in cookie 
 _asfstyle for 30 days.
 Added access keys on top menu.
 Navigation on right contains only sub-section selected form top menu
 Minimal resolution set to 800px.
 Starting design is done in Macromedia Fireworks (_src/cocoon.png) were you 
 can find all picture slices.
 I have checked this design in:
 Windows:
   Firefox 1.0.7
   Internet Explorer 6.0
   Opera 8.5
 Linux:
   Firefox 1.0.7
   Konqueror 3.3.2
   Mozilla 1.7.5
   Netscape 7.2
   Lynx

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[jira] Commented: (COCOON-1680) New design/ layout proposal for Cocoon documentation

2005-11-07 Thread Milan Andrejevic (JIRA)
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Milan Andrejevic commented on COCOON-1680:
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Everything is changeable, but let's see some more comments.

How many (maximum) menu entries are there? Please give structure for top 
menu(s) and sidebar menu you would like to have.

I assume they are used for keyboard shortcuts?
  Yes you assume right.


 New design/ layout proposal for Cocoon documentation
 

  Key: COCOON-1680
  URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COCOON-1680
  Project: Cocoon
 Type: Improvement
   Components: - Documentation
 Reporter: Milan Andrejevic
 Priority: Minor
  Attachments: asf20051107.zip, screenshot.gif

 I made new design/ layout proposal for Cocoon documentation. Just one html 
 and screen css. I understand you need to modernize site (see Upayavira 
 comment for COCOON-1679). This is my try, I hope you like it.
 There are  two layouts user can choose. Layout info is stored in cookie 
 _asfstyle for 30 days.
 Added access keys on top menu.
 Navigation on right contains only sub-section selected form top menu
 Minimal resolution set to 800px.
 Starting design is done in Macromedia Fireworks (_src/cocoon.png) were you 
 can find all picture slices.
 I have checked this design in:
 Windows:
   Firefox 1.0.7
   Internet Explorer 6.0
   Opera 8.5
 Linux:
   Firefox 1.0.7
   Konqueror 3.3.2
   Mozilla 1.7.5
   Netscape 7.2
   Lynx

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