Re: Rename cocoon:rcl to cocoon:wrap-block
On Feb 16, 2008, at 11:44 AM, Torsten Curdt wrote: On 16.02.2008, at 17:12, Reinhard Poetz wrote: After having seen quite a few people wonder what 'cocoon:rcl' means, I propose to change it to some better name. The general idea is that this Maven goal creates a web application which wraps the block and makes it runable as a 'normal' web application in a web container. Additionally it enables the usage of the reloading classloader (commons-jci) which made me name it 'cocoon:rcl'. I propose to use 'cocoon:wrap-block' instead. Though it's longer I think it's closer to the actual meaning and hence less confusing. If we want to keep the name short, we could even add a shortcut 'cocoon:wb'. wrap-block ??? Hm ...I cannot really see how that is much better - sorry ;) What about cocoon:webapp-loader cocoon:reloader (shorter), or cocoon:webapp-reloader (more descriptive) Vadim
Re: Rename cocoon:rcl to cocoon:wrap-block
On Wed, 2008-02-20 at 08:16 -0500, Vadim Gritsenko wrote: On Feb 16, 2008, at 11:44 AM, Torsten Curdt wrote: On 16.02.2008, at 17:12, Reinhard Poetz wrote: After having seen quite a few people wonder what 'cocoon:rcl' means, I propose to change it to some better name. The general idea is that this Maven goal creates a web application which wraps the block and makes it runable as a 'normal' web application in a web container. Additionally it enables the usage of the reloading classloader (commons-jci) which made me name it 'cocoon:rcl'. I propose to use 'cocoon:wrap-block' instead. Though it's longer I think it's closer to the actual meaning and hence less confusing. If we want to keep the name short, we could even add a shortcut 'cocoon:wb'. wrap-block ??? Hm ...I cannot really see how that is much better - sorry ;) What about cocoon:webapp-loader cocoon:reloader (shorter), or cocoon:webapp-reloader (more descriptive) cocoon:loader salu2 -- Thorsten Scherler thorsten.at.apache.org Open Source Java consulting, training and solutions
Re: Rename cocoon:rcl to cocoon:wrap-block
Reinhard Poetz schrieb: After having seen quite a few people wonder what 'cocoon:rcl' means, I propose to change it to some better name. The general idea is that this Maven goal creates a web application which wraps the block and makes it runable as a 'normal' web application in a web container. Additionally it enables the usage of the reloading classloader (commons-jci) which made me name it 'cocoon:rcl'. I propose to use 'cocoon:wrap-block' instead. Though it's longer I think it's closer to the actual meaning and hence less confusing. If we want to keep the name short, we could even add a shortcut 'cocoon:wb'. WDOT? Other proposals? cocoon:run My 2 cents Felix
Re: Rename cocoon:rcl to cocoon:wrap-block
Felix Knecht wrote:
Reinhard Poetz schrieb:
After having seen quite a few people wonder what 'cocoon:rcl' means, I
propose to change it to some better name.
The general idea is that this Maven goal creates a web application
which wraps the block and makes it runable as a 'normal' web
application in a web container. Additionally it enables the usage of
the reloading classloader (commons-jci) which made me name it
'cocoon:rcl'.
I propose to use 'cocoon:wrap-block' instead. Though it's longer I
think it's closer to the actual meaning and hence less confusing. If
we want to keep the name short, we could even add a shortcut 'cocoon:wb'.
WDOT? Other proposals?
cocoon:run
Actually it doesn't run the block but only creates the environment (i.e. a web
application that wraps a block) for it.
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Re: Rename cocoon:rcl to cocoon:wrap-block
Thorsten Scherler wrote:
cocoon:loader
For me the best suggestion so far. But what do native speaker feel when they
read/enter this? Does it sound natural?
Think that you usually enter
mvn cocoon:loader jetty:run
when you want to run a block.
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Re: Rename cocoon:rcl to cocoon:wrap-block
Vadim Gritsenko wrote:
On Feb 16, 2008, at 11:44 AM, Torsten Curdt wrote:
What about cocoon:webapp-loader
cocoon:reloader (shorter), or cocoon:webapp-reloader (more descriptive)
That this goal supports the usage of a reloading classloader is just a feature
but (at least in trunk) configureable. Hence I'm not that enthusiastic about
loader or reloader.
... or am I too picky?
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Re: Rename cocoon:rcl to cocoon:wrap-block
On 20.02.2008, at 15:50, Reinhard Poetz wrote: Vadim Gritsenko wrote: On Feb 16, 2008, at 11:44 AM, Torsten Curdt wrote: What about cocoon:webapp-loader cocoon:reloader (shorter), or cocoon:webapp-reloader (more descriptive) That this goal supports the usage of a reloading classloader is just a feature but (at least in trunk) configureable. Hence I'm not that enthusiastic about loader or reloader. ... or am I too picky? No ...I was thinking the same :) ...which is why I would think 'cocoon:loader' (not reloader) would be OK. On the other hand this looks quite consistent: mvn cocoon:run jetty:run It might be technically not really correct but looks nice and straight forward. Think users might like that. cheers -- Torsten
Re: Rename cocoon:rcl to cocoon:wrap-block
Reinhard Poetz wrote: Felix Knecht wrote: Reinhard Poetz schrieb: After having seen quite a few people wonder what 'cocoon:rcl' means, I propose to change it to some better name. The general idea is that this Maven goal creates a web application which wraps the block and makes it runable as a 'normal' web application in a web container. Additionally it enables the usage of the reloading classloader (commons-jci) which made me name it 'cocoon:rcl'. I propose to use 'cocoon:wrap-block' instead. Though it's longer I think it's closer to the actual meaning and hence less confusing. If we want to keep the name short, we could even add a shortcut 'cocoon:wb'. WDOT? Other proposals? cocoon:run Actually it doesn't run the block but only creates the environment (i.e. a web application that wraps a block) for it. cocoon:package cocoon:assemble (Though package has a specific connotation in the Maven world of creating a jar/war/etc. ... does this goal do that as well?)
Re: Rename cocoon:rcl to cocoon:wrap-block
Then cocoon:prepare or (more verbose) cocoon:prepare-run does sound appropriate Jason Johnston schrieb: Reinhard Poetz wrote: Felix Knecht wrote: Reinhard Poetz schrieb: After having seen quite a few people wonder what 'cocoon:rcl' means, I propose to change it to some better name. The general idea is that this Maven goal creates a web application which wraps the block and makes it runable as a 'normal' web application in a web container. Additionally it enables the usage of the reloading classloader (commons-jci) which made me name it 'cocoon:rcl'. I propose to use 'cocoon:wrap-block' instead. Though it's longer I think it's closer to the actual meaning and hence less confusing. If we want to keep the name short, we could even add a shortcut 'cocoon:wb'. WDOT? Other proposals? cocoon:run Actually it doesn't run the block but only creates the environment (i.e. a web application that wraps a block) for it. cocoon:package cocoon:assemble (Though package has a specific connotation in the Maven world of creating a jar/war/etc. ... does this goal do that as well?)
Re: Rename cocoon:rcl to cocoon:wrap-block
On Wed, 2008-02-20 at 16:19 +0100, Torsten Curdt wrote: On 20.02.2008, at 15:50, Reinhard Poetz wrote: Vadim Gritsenko wrote: On Feb 16, 2008, at 11:44 AM, Torsten Curdt wrote: What about cocoon:webapp-loader cocoon:reloader (shorter), or cocoon:webapp-reloader (more descriptive) That this goal supports the usage of a reloading classloader is just a feature but (at least in trunk) configureable. Hence I'm not that enthusiastic about loader or reloader. ... or am I too picky? No ...I was thinking the same :) ...which is why I would think 'cocoon:loader' (not reloader) would be OK. Maybe even shorter and c-64 style: ;) mvn cocoon:load jetty:run salu2 -- Thorsten Scherler thorsten.at.apache.org Open Source Java consulting, training and solutions
Re: Rename cocoon:rcl to cocoon:wrap-block
Thorsten Scherler wrote:
Maybe even shorter and c-64 style: ;)
mvn cocoon:load jetty:run
after reading all the mails again, here are my two favorits:
mvn cocoon:load jetty:run
mvn cocoon:prepare jetty:run
WDOT?
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Re: Rename cocoon:rcl to cocoon:wrap-block
Reinhard Poetz pisze: Thorsten Scherler wrote: Maybe even shorter and c-64 style: ;) mvn cocoon:load jetty:run after reading all the mails again, here are my two favorits: mvn cocoon:load jetty:run mvn cocoon:prepare jetty:run WDOT? +1 for cocoon:prepare provided it helps people... Grzegorz
Re: Rename cocoon:rcl to cocoon:wrap-block
On 20.02.2008 12:47, Reinhard Poetz wrote: mvn cocoon:load jetty:run after reading all the mails again, here are my two favorits: mvn cocoon:load jetty:run mvn cocoon:prepare jetty:run Considering your explanation [1] I slightly prefer cocoon:prepare. Joerg [1] http://marc.info/?l=xml-cocoon-devm=120351863516460w=4
Rename cocoon:rcl to cocoon:wrap-block
After having seen quite a few people wonder what 'cocoon:rcl' means, I propose
to change it to some better name.
The general idea is that this Maven goal creates a web application which wraps
the block and makes it runable as a 'normal' web application in a web container.
Additionally it enables the usage of the reloading classloader (commons-jci)
which made me name it 'cocoon:rcl'.
I propose to use 'cocoon:wrap-block' instead. Though it's longer I think it's
closer to the actual meaning and hence less confusing. If we want to keep the
name short, we could even add a shortcut 'cocoon:wb'.
WDOT? Other proposals?
--
Reinhard PötzManaging Director, {Indoqa} GmbH
http://www.indoqa.com/en/people/reinhard.poetz/
Member of the Apache Software Foundation
Apache Cocoon Committer, PMC member, PMC Chair[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Rename cocoon:rcl to cocoon:wrap-block
On 16.02.2008, at 17:12, Reinhard Poetz wrote: After having seen quite a few people wonder what 'cocoon:rcl' means, I propose to change it to some better name. The general idea is that this Maven goal creates a web application which wraps the block and makes it runable as a 'normal' web application in a web container. Additionally it enables the usage of the reloading classloader (commons-jci) which made me name it 'cocoon:rcl'. I propose to use 'cocoon:wrap-block' instead. Though it's longer I think it's closer to the actual meaning and hence less confusing. If we want to keep the name short, we could even add a shortcut 'cocoon:wb'. wrap-block ??? Hm ...I cannot really see how that is much better - sorry ;) What about cocoon:webapp-loader cheers -- Torsten
