Re: [IO] Update to Java 8 [WAS Re: regarding IO-597]

2019-01-12 Thread sebb
On Sat, 12 Jan 2019 at 15:42, John Patrick  wrote:
>
> Personally as a consumer/user I wouldn't expect a minor update to bump
> the min java version required, I would expect a major version number
> bump.
>
> Also I think all commons projects should be bumped to Java 8 asap, as
> those on java 5, 6 or 7 are probably happy with the current versions
> and would only be upgrading for bug fixes and security reasons.

However, if a commons component updates to Java 8 and then needs a bug
fix, all those on Java 7 or below who need the bug fix will be forced
to update Java as well as updating the commons component.
Is that such a good idea?

> Java 8 was released nearly 5 years ago, Java 7 was released 8 years
> ago, people complained about Java being slow, now Java has become
> rapid it seams the frameworks need to speed up.

Huh?

If people upgrade to the latest (faster) version of Java, they can
still use Commons components that have an earlier minimum version.

So I don't see how changing the minimum version of Java for a Commons
component helps here.

> Just my view after coding Java for 20 years.
>
> John
>
>
>
> On Sat, 12 Jan 2019 at 13:43, Gary Gregory  wrote:
> >
> > I am OK with updating Commons IO to Java 8 for release 2.7.
> >
> > Others?
> >
> > Gary
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 12, 2019 at 6:54 AM Arvind Venugopal 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > This is regarding the JIRA issue IO-597. I am not sure if this has to be
> > > taken up because the fix for this bug would need Java 8 which would be
> > > breaking all existing code(using Java 7 or earlier) which uses this
> > > library.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Arvind
> > >
>
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Re: [IO] Update to Java 8 [WAS Re: regarding IO-597]

2019-01-12 Thread John Patrick
Personally as a consumer/user I wouldn't expect a minor update to bump
the min java version required, I would expect a major version number
bump.

Also I think all commons projects should be bumped to Java 8 asap, as
those on java 5, 6 or 7 are probably happy with the current versions
and would only be upgrading for bug fixes and security reasons.

Java 8 was released nearly 5 years ago, Java 7 was released 8 years
ago, people complained about Java being slow, now Java has become
rapid it seams the frameworks need to speed up.

Just my view after coding Java for 20 years.

John



On Sat, 12 Jan 2019 at 13:43, Gary Gregory  wrote:
>
> I am OK with updating Commons IO to Java 8 for release 2.7.
>
> Others?
>
> Gary
>
> On Sat, Jan 12, 2019 at 6:54 AM Arvind Venugopal 
> wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > This is regarding the JIRA issue IO-597. I am not sure if this has to be
> > taken up because the fix for this bug would need Java 8 which would be
> > breaking all existing code(using Java 7 or earlier) which uses this
> > library.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Arvind
> >

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Re: [DRAFT] Board Report January 2019

2019-01-12 Thread Gary Gregory
On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 12:04 PM Matt Sicker  wrote:

> Would you like to mention the gitbox migration?
>

Done and thank you for the reminder! I just submitted the report for the
next board meeting.

Gary


>
> On Fri, 11 Jan 2019 at 09:05, Otto Fowler  wrote:
> >
> > That works, thanks
> >
> >
> > On January 11, 2019 at 10:03:13, Gary Gregory (garydgreg...@gmail.com)
> > wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 9:46 AM Otto Fowler 
> wrote:
> >
> > > I would qualify that releases and jira addressing are timely for some
> > > components, but not all.
> > >
> >
> > Rephrasing to:
> > " - We are discussing the addition of a new component, mailing activity
> is
> > good
> >and JIRAs are addressed in a timely manner for most components."
> >
> > Gary
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > On January 11, 2019 at 09:05:17, Gary Gregory (garydgreg...@gmail.com)
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > I will post this to the board tomorrow morning. Feedback welcome.
> > > ---
> > > ## Description:
> > > - Apache Commons is an Apache project focused on all aspects of
> reusable
> > > Java
> > > components.
> > >
> > > ## Issues:
> > > - There are no issues requiring board attention at this time.
> > >
> > > ## Activity:
> > > - Activity is good with the release of 4 components.
> > >
> > > ## Health report:
> > > - The project is healthy but suffers from a lack of committer and PMC
> > > growth.
> > > - Releases for existing components are in the planning stage for Pool,
> > > DBCP, IO, and Numbers.
> > > - We are discussing the addition of a new component, mailing activity
> is
> > > good
> > > and JIRAs are addressed in a timely manner.
> > >
> > > ## PMC changes:
> > >
> > > - Currently 38 PMC members.
> > > - No new PMC members added in the last 3 months
> > > - Last PMC addition was Rob Tompkins on Fri Jun 30 2017
> > >
> > > ## Committer base changes:
> > >
> > > - Currently 147 committers.
> > > - Maxim Solodovnik was added as a committer on Tue Dec 18 2018
> > >
> > > ## Releases:
> > >
> > > - CONFIGURATION-2.4 was released on Sun Oct 28 2018
> > > - FILEUPLOAD-1.4 was released on Thu Dec 27 2018
> > > - RNG-1.2 was released on Tue Dec 11 2018
> > > - TEXT-1.6 was released on Mon Oct 15 2018
> > >
> > > ## JIRA activity:
> > >
> > > - 138 JIRA tickets created in the last 3 months
> > > - 100 JIRA tickets closed/resolved in the last 3 months
> > >
> > > Gary Gregory
> > > Apache Commons Chair.
> > >
> > >
>
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[IO] Update to Java 8 [WAS Re: regarding IO-597]

2019-01-12 Thread Gary Gregory
I am OK with updating Commons IO to Java 8 for release 2.7.

Others?

Gary

On Sat, Jan 12, 2019 at 6:54 AM Arvind Venugopal 
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> This is regarding the JIRA issue IO-597. I am not sure if this has to be
> taken up because the fix for this bug would need Java 8 which would be
> breaking all existing code(using Java 7 or earlier) which uses this
> library.
>
> Thanks
> Arvind
>


regarding IO-597

2019-01-12 Thread Arvind Venugopal
Hello,

This is regarding the JIRA issue IO-597. I am not sure if this has to be
taken up because the fix for this bug would need Java 8 which would be
breaking all existing code(using Java 7 or earlier) which uses this library.

Thanks
Arvind