Re: [lang] org.apache.commons.lang3.concurrent.Locks.Lock
On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 10:13 AM Gary Gregory wrote: > > > On Wed, Jul 8, 2020, 09:32 Rob Tompkins wrote: > >> >> >> > On Jul 7, 2020, at 6:56 PM, Gary Gregory >> wrote: >> > >> > In the PR https://github.com/apache/commons-lang/pull/559 I am going >> with >> > "LockingVistors". >> >> I like this name because of its brevity yet clarity. >> > > Let's go for that then. I'll merge the PR later today after I give it > another review. > Merged, please review, discuss, or whatnot. I'd like to do an RC very soon, semi-depending on the resolution of https://github.com/apache/commons-parent/pull/9 > Gary > >> >> -Rob >> >> > >> > Gary >> > >> > On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 2:33 PM Rob Tompkins wrote: >> > >> >> I’m not all that familiar with that area of academia. Let me see what I >> >> can dig up >> >> >> >> -Rob >> >> >> >>> On Jul 7, 2020, at 2:19 PM, Matt Sicker wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Are there any academic references for this? Or even something from >> >>> Java Concurrency in Practice? Those are good sources for names around >> >>> concurrency. >> >>> >> >>> On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 at 12:42, Rob Tompkins wrote: >> >> Why not make the name “ThreadedLambdaSynchronizer” or something like >> >> that….just something more descriptive here that get’s closer to what >> the >> >> intended functionality is. >> >> That said, I’m not particularly tied to the name >> >> “ThreadedLambdaSynchronizer” just spitballing here for something more >> >> descriptive than “Lock” >> >> -Rob >> >> > On Jun 29, 2020, at 12:58 PM, Matt Sicker wrote: >> > >> > Now that starts to sound like Apache Groovy or Kotlin. >> > >> > On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 at 11:58, Xeno Amess >> wrote: >> >> >> >> soemtimes I really wish to rewrite/add some functions in jdk >> >> directly... >> >> especially for reusing some package private static functions... >> >> >> >> Gary Gregory 于2020年6月30日周二 上午12:01写道： >> >> >> >>> I'm not sure talking to the JDK folks is helpful IMO. We are still >> >>> targeting Java 8. The customers I deal with are migrating from 8 >> to >> >> 11, and >> >>> Java 11 is not everywhere our customers are. So talking about >> >> something >> >>> that might end up in Java... 25 seems to be not in our user's >> best or >> >>> immediate interest. It might be good for Java in the long oh so >> long >> >> term >> >>> of course. >> >>> >> >>> Gary >> >>> >> >>> On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 8:31 AM Rob Tompkins >> >> wrote: >> >>> >> At first look, I’m a little surprised we’re trying to take on >> this >> functionality. Has anyone reached out to the JDK guys to see if >> >> they’d be >> interested in having it in the JDK? That said, if we approach it >> >> from >> >>> that >> path, we would lose the functionality in older versions of java. >> So >> >>> maybe I >> just talked myself out of the idea of putting it in the JDK >> >> Just wanted to stream of consciousness my initial gut vibe. >> >> Cheers, >> -Rob >> >> > On Jun 26, 2020, at 10:07 AM, Gary Gregory < >> garydgreg...@gmail.com >> >>> >> wrote: >> > >> > Hi All: >> > >> > I know email is a challenging medium for code reviews, so please >> >>> consider >> > these comments coming from my best intentions, constructive and >> >> caring >> ;-) >> > Also please excuse the meandering nature of this post. >> > >> > The new class org.apache.commons.lang3.concurrent.Locks.Lock >> needs >> >>> better >> > names IMO, not just the class name. There is already a JRE >> >> interface >> called >> > Lock so this class name is confusing (to me.) >> > >> > The Javadoc reads in part: >> > >> > * This class implements a wrapper for a locked (hidden) object, >> >> and >> > * provides the means to access it. The basic idea, is that the >> >> user >> > * code forsakes all references to the locked object, using only >> >> the >> > * wrapper object, and the accessor methods >> > >> > But this is not the case, the object itself is not locked in >> > the traditional sense with a monitor through a synchronized >> block, >> >> so >> >>> we >> > need to update the Javadoc as well. >> > >> > To me, this is more about executing blocks of code (through >> >> lambdas) >> which >> > then get 'safe' (via locking) access to an underlying object. >> This >> >>> tells >> me >> > the class is more about the functional interfaces than about a >> >> domain >> > "Object", hence the name "Lock" is not the best. It's really >> more >> >> of a >> > visitor where the visitation pattern is: Lock, Visit, Unlock. >> >
Re: [lang] org.apache.commons.lang3.concurrent.Locks.Lock
On Wed, Jul 8, 2020, 09:32 Rob Tompkins wrote: > > > > On Jul 7, 2020, at 6:56 PM, Gary Gregory wrote: > > > > In the PR https://github.com/apache/commons-lang/pull/559 I am going > with > > "LockingVistors". > > I like this name because of its brevity yet clarity. > Let's go for that then. I'll merge the PR later today after I give it another review. Gary > > -Rob > > > > > Gary > > > > On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 2:33 PM Rob Tompkins wrote: > > > >> I’m not all that familiar with that area of academia. Let me see what I > >> can dig up > >> > >> -Rob > >> > >>> On Jul 7, 2020, at 2:19 PM, Matt Sicker wrote: > >>> > >>> Are there any academic references for this? Or even something from > >>> Java Concurrency in Practice? Those are good sources for names around > >>> concurrency. > >>> > >>> On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 at 12:42, Rob Tompkins wrote: > > Why not make the name “ThreadedLambdaSynchronizer” or something like > >> that….just something more descriptive here that get’s closer to what the > >> intended functionality is. > > That said, I’m not particularly tied to the name > >> “ThreadedLambdaSynchronizer” just spitballing here for something more > >> descriptive than “Lock” > > -Rob > > > On Jun 29, 2020, at 12:58 PM, Matt Sicker wrote: > > > > Now that starts to sound like Apache Groovy or Kotlin. > > > > On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 at 11:58, Xeno Amess > wrote: > >> > >> soemtimes I really wish to rewrite/add some functions in jdk > >> directly... > >> especially for reusing some package private static functions... > >> > >> Gary Gregory 于2020年6月30日周二 上午12:01写道： > >> > >>> I'm not sure talking to the JDK folks is helpful IMO. We are still > >>> targeting Java 8. The customers I deal with are migrating from 8 to > >> 11, and > >>> Java 11 is not everywhere our customers are. So talking about > >> something > >>> that might end up in Java... 25 seems to be not in our user's best > or > >>> immediate interest. It might be good for Java in the long oh so > long > >> term > >>> of course. > >>> > >>> Gary > >>> > >>> On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 8:31 AM Rob Tompkins > >> wrote: > >>> > At first look, I’m a little surprised we’re trying to take on this > functionality. Has anyone reached out to the JDK guys to see if > >> they’d be > interested in having it in the JDK? That said, if we approach it > >> from > >>> that > path, we would lose the functionality in older versions of java. > So > >>> maybe I > just talked myself out of the idea of putting it in the JDK > > Just wanted to stream of consciousness my initial gut vibe. > > Cheers, > -Rob > > > On Jun 26, 2020, at 10:07 AM, Gary Gregory < > garydgreg...@gmail.com > >>> > wrote: > > > > Hi All: > > > > I know email is a challenging medium for code reviews, so please > >>> consider > > these comments coming from my best intentions, constructive and > >> caring > ;-) > > Also please excuse the meandering nature of this post. > > > > The new class org.apache.commons.lang3.concurrent.Locks.Lock > needs > >>> better > > names IMO, not just the class name. There is already a JRE > >> interface > called > > Lock so this class name is confusing (to me.) > > > > The Javadoc reads in part: > > > > * This class implements a wrapper for a locked (hidden) object, > >> and > > * provides the means to access it. The basic idea, is that the > >> user > > * code forsakes all references to the locked object, using only > >> the > > * wrapper object, and the accessor methods > > > > But this is not the case, the object itself is not locked in > > the traditional sense with a monitor through a synchronized > block, > >> so > >>> we > > need to update the Javadoc as well. > > > > To me, this is more about executing blocks of code (through > >> lambdas) > which > > then get 'safe' (via locking) access to an underlying object. > This > >>> tells > me > > the class is more about the functional interfaces than about a > >> domain > > "Object", hence the name "Lock" is not the best. It's really more > >> of a > > visitor where the visitation pattern is: Lock, Visit, Unlock. > > Instead, maybe: > > - StampledLockVisitor (more specific) > > - LockingVisitor (more general) > > - SafeObject (vague) > > - ObjectLocker (vague) > > - rejected: LockedObject since the object itself is not locked. > > - ? > > > > What is also confusing IMO is that the instance variable for the > >> object > is >
Re: [lang] org.apache.commons.lang3.concurrent.Locks.Lock
> On Jul 7, 2020, at 6:56 PM, Gary Gregory wrote: > > In the PR https://github.com/apache/commons-lang/pull/559 I am going with > "LockingVistors". I like this name because of its brevity yet clarity. -Rob > > Gary > > On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 2:33 PM Rob Tompkins wrote: > >> I’m not all that familiar with that area of academia. Let me see what I >> can dig up >> >> -Rob >> >>> On Jul 7, 2020, at 2:19 PM, Matt Sicker wrote: >>> >>> Are there any academic references for this? Or even something from >>> Java Concurrency in Practice? Those are good sources for names around >>> concurrency. >>> >>> On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 at 12:42, Rob Tompkins wrote: Why not make the name “ThreadedLambdaSynchronizer” or something like >> that….just something more descriptive here that get’s closer to what the >> intended functionality is. That said, I’m not particularly tied to the name >> “ThreadedLambdaSynchronizer” just spitballing here for something more >> descriptive than “Lock” -Rob > On Jun 29, 2020, at 12:58 PM, Matt Sicker wrote: > > Now that starts to sound like Apache Groovy or Kotlin. > > On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 at 11:58, Xeno Amess wrote: >> >> soemtimes I really wish to rewrite/add some functions in jdk >> directly... >> especially for reusing some package private static functions... >> >> Gary Gregory 于2020年6月30日周二 上午12:01写道： >> >>> I'm not sure talking to the JDK folks is helpful IMO. We are still >>> targeting Java 8. The customers I deal with are migrating from 8 to >> 11, and >>> Java 11 is not everywhere our customers are. So talking about >> something >>> that might end up in Java... 25 seems to be not in our user's best or >>> immediate interest. It might be good for Java in the long oh so long >> term >>> of course. >>> >>> Gary >>> >>> On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 8:31 AM Rob Tompkins >> wrote: >>> At first look, I’m a little surprised we’re trying to take on this functionality. Has anyone reached out to the JDK guys to see if >> they’d be interested in having it in the JDK? That said, if we approach it >> from >>> that path, we would lose the functionality in older versions of java. So >>> maybe I just talked myself out of the idea of putting it in the JDK Just wanted to stream of consciousness my initial gut vibe. Cheers, -Rob > On Jun 26, 2020, at 10:07 AM, Gary Gregory >> wrote: > > Hi All: > > I know email is a challenging medium for code reviews, so please >>> consider > these comments coming from my best intentions, constructive and >> caring ;-) > Also please excuse the meandering nature of this post. > > The new class org.apache.commons.lang3.concurrent.Locks.Lock needs >>> better > names IMO, not just the class name. There is already a JRE >> interface called > Lock so this class name is confusing (to me.) > > The Javadoc reads in part: > > * This class implements a wrapper for a locked (hidden) object, >> and > * provides the means to access it. The basic idea, is that the >> user > * code forsakes all references to the locked object, using only >> the > * wrapper object, and the accessor methods > > But this is not the case, the object itself is not locked in > the traditional sense with a monitor through a synchronized block, >> so >>> we > need to update the Javadoc as well. > > To me, this is more about executing blocks of code (through >> lambdas) which > then get 'safe' (via locking) access to an underlying object. This >>> tells me > the class is more about the functional interfaces than about a >> domain > "Object", hence the name "Lock" is not the best. It's really more >> of a > visitor where the visitation pattern is: Lock, Visit, Unlock. > Instead, maybe: > - StampledLockVisitor (more specific) > - LockingVisitor (more general) > - SafeObject (vague) > - ObjectLocker (vague) > - rejected: LockedObject since the object itself is not locked. > - ? > > What is also confusing IMO is that the instance variable for the >> object is > called "lockedObject" but the object is in fact NOT locked all the >>> time. So > that needs to be renamed IMO: > - object (the simplest) > - subject > - domain > - target > - ? > > In the same vein, the StampedLock is named "lock" which is also >>> confusing > since StampedLock does not implement Lock. > > Why can't
Re: [lang] org.apache.commons.lang3.concurrent.Locks.Lock
On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 10:22 PM Gary Gregory wrote: > On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 7:14 PM Matt Sicker wrote: > >> JCIP seems to call this idea a monitor, but that’s also the general >> implicit locking mechanism in Java. >> > FTR, that's JCIP section 4.2.1 (in my edition). Gary > > Hi Matt, > > Right, and it is tempting to rename LockingVisitors.AbstractLockVisitor's > 'object' ivar to 'monitor' but that is somewhat misleading because it is > not that object that you are locking, instead you are locking an actual > lock and then visiting that object. So I am inclined to keep that part but > Monitor could be in the class name somewhere. > > Gary > > >> On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 17:56 Gary Gregory wrote: >> >> > Typo: LockingVisitors. >> > >> > On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 6:56 PM Gary Gregory >> > wrote: >> > >> > > In the PR https://github.com/apache/commons-lang/pull/559 I am going >> > > with "LockingVistors". >> > > >> > > Gary >> > > >> > > On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 2:33 PM Rob Tompkins >> wrote: >> > > >> > >> I’m not all that familiar with that area of academia. Let me see >> what I >> > >> can dig up >> > >> >> > >> -Rob >> > >> >> > >> > On Jul 7, 2020, at 2:19 PM, Matt Sicker wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> > Are there any academic references for this? Or even something from >> > >> > Java Concurrency in Practice? Those are good sources for names >> around >> > >> > concurrency. >> > >> > >> > >> > On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 at 12:42, Rob Tompkins >> wrote: >> > >> >> >> > >> >> Why not make the name “ThreadedLambdaSynchronizer” or something >> like >> > >> that….just something more descriptive here that get’s closer to what >> the >> > >> intended functionality is. >> > >> >> >> > >> >> That said, I’m not particularly tied to the name >> > >> “ThreadedLambdaSynchronizer” just spitballing here for something more >> > >> descriptive than “Lock” >> > >> >> >> > >> >> -Rob >> > >> >> >> > >> >>> On Jun 29, 2020, at 12:58 PM, Matt Sicker >> wrote: >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> Now that starts to sound like Apache Groovy or Kotlin. >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 at 11:58, Xeno Amess >> > wrote: >> > >> >> > >> soemtimes I really wish to rewrite/add some functions in jdk >> > >> directly... >> > >> especially for reusing some package private static functions... >> > >> >> > >> Gary Gregory 于2020年6月30日周二 上午12:01写道： >> > >> >> > >> > I'm not sure talking to the JDK folks is helpful IMO. We are >> still >> > >> > targeting Java 8. The customers I deal with are migrating from >> 8 >> > to >> > >> 11, and >> > >> > Java 11 is not everywhere our customers are. So talking about >> > >> something >> > >> > that might end up in Java... 25 seems to be not in our user's >> best >> > >> or >> > >> > immediate interest. It might be good for Java in the long oh so >> > >> long term >> > >> > of course. >> > >> > >> > >> > Gary >> > >> > >> > >> > On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 8:31 AM Rob Tompkins < >> chtom...@gmail.com> >> > >> wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> >> At first look, I’m a little surprised we’re trying to take on >> > this >> > >> >> functionality. Has anyone reached out to the JDK guys to see >> if >> > >> they’d be >> > >> >> interested in having it in the JDK? That said, if we approach >> it >> > >> from >> > >> > that >> > >> >> path, we would lose the functionality in older versions of >> java. >> > So >> > >> > maybe I >> > >> >> just talked myself out of the idea of putting it in the >> JDK >> > >> >> >> > >> >> Just wanted to stream of consciousness my initial gut vibe. >> > >> >> >> > >> >> Cheers, >> > >> >> -Rob >> > >> >> >> > >> >>> On Jun 26, 2020, at 10:07 AM, Gary Gregory < >> > >> garydgreg...@gmail.com> >> > >> >> wrote: >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> Hi All: >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> I know email is a challenging medium for code reviews, so >> please >> > >> > consider >> > >> >>> these comments coming from my best intentions, constructive >> and >> > >> caring >> > >> >> ;-) >> > >> >>> Also please excuse the meandering nature of this post. >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> The new class org.apache.commons.lang3.concurrent.Locks.Lock >> > needs >> > >> > better >> > >> >>> names IMO, not just the class name. There is already a JRE >> > >> interface >> > >> >> called >> > >> >>> Lock so this class name is confusing (to me.) >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> The Javadoc reads in part: >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> * This class implements a wrapper for a locked (hidden) >> > object, >> > >> and >> > >> >>> * provides the means to access it. The basic idea, is that >> the >> > >> user >> > >> >>> * code forsakes all references to the locked object, using >> > only >> > >> the >> > >> >>> * wrapper object, and the accessor methods >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> But this is not the case, the object itself is not locked
Re: [lang] org.apache.commons.lang3.concurrent.Locks.Lock
On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 7:14 PM Matt Sicker wrote: > JCIP seems to call this idea a monitor, but that’s also the general > implicit locking mechanism in Java. > Hi Matt, Right, and it is tempting to rename LockingVisitors.AbstractLockVisitor's 'object' ivar to 'monitor' but that is somewhat misleading because it is not that object that you are locking, instead you are locking an actual lock and then visiting that object. So I am inclined to keep that part but Monitor could be in the class name somewhere. Gary > On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 17:56 Gary Gregory wrote: > > > Typo: LockingVisitors. > > > > On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 6:56 PM Gary Gregory > > wrote: > > > > > In the PR https://github.com/apache/commons-lang/pull/559 I am going > > > with "LockingVistors". > > > > > > Gary > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 2:33 PM Rob Tompkins > wrote: > > > > > >> I’m not all that familiar with that area of academia. Let me see what > I > > >> can dig up > > >> > > >> -Rob > > >> > > >> > On Jul 7, 2020, at 2:19 PM, Matt Sicker wrote: > > >> > > > >> > Are there any academic references for this? Or even something from > > >> > Java Concurrency in Practice? Those are good sources for names > around > > >> > concurrency. > > >> > > > >> > On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 at 12:42, Rob Tompkins > wrote: > > >> >> > > >> >> Why not make the name “ThreadedLambdaSynchronizer” or something > like > > >> that….just something more descriptive here that get’s closer to what > the > > >> intended functionality is. > > >> >> > > >> >> That said, I’m not particularly tied to the name > > >> “ThreadedLambdaSynchronizer” just spitballing here for something more > > >> descriptive than “Lock” > > >> >> > > >> >> -Rob > > >> >> > > >> >>> On Jun 29, 2020, at 12:58 PM, Matt Sicker > wrote: > > >> >>> > > >> >>> Now that starts to sound like Apache Groovy or Kotlin. > > >> >>> > > >> >>> On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 at 11:58, Xeno Amess > > wrote: > > >> > > >> soemtimes I really wish to rewrite/add some functions in jdk > > >> directly... > > >> especially for reusing some package private static functions... > > >> > > >> Gary Gregory 于2020年6月30日周二 上午12:01写道： > > >> > > >> > I'm not sure talking to the JDK folks is helpful IMO. We are > still > > >> > targeting Java 8. The customers I deal with are migrating from 8 > > to > > >> 11, and > > >> > Java 11 is not everywhere our customers are. So talking about > > >> something > > >> > that might end up in Java... 25 seems to be not in our user's > best > > >> or > > >> > immediate interest. It might be good for Java in the long oh so > > >> long term > > >> > of course. > > >> > > > >> > Gary > > >> > > > >> > On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 8:31 AM Rob Tompkins < > chtom...@gmail.com> > > >> wrote: > > >> > > > >> >> At first look, I’m a little surprised we’re trying to take on > > this > > >> >> functionality. Has anyone reached out to the JDK guys to see if > > >> they’d be > > >> >> interested in having it in the JDK? That said, if we approach > it > > >> from > > >> > that > > >> >> path, we would lose the functionality in older versions of > java. > > So > > >> > maybe I > > >> >> just talked myself out of the idea of putting it in the JDK > > >> >> > > >> >> Just wanted to stream of consciousness my initial gut vibe. > > >> >> > > >> >> Cheers, > > >> >> -Rob > > >> >> > > >> >>> On Jun 26, 2020, at 10:07 AM, Gary Gregory < > > >> garydgreg...@gmail.com> > > >> >> wrote: > > >> >>> > > >> >>> Hi All: > > >> >>> > > >> >>> I know email is a challenging medium for code reviews, so > please > > >> > consider > > >> >>> these comments coming from my best intentions, constructive > and > > >> caring > > >> >> ;-) > > >> >>> Also please excuse the meandering nature of this post. > > >> >>> > > >> >>> The new class org.apache.commons.lang3.concurrent.Locks.Lock > > needs > > >> > better > > >> >>> names IMO, not just the class name. There is already a JRE > > >> interface > > >> >> called > > >> >>> Lock so this class name is confusing (to me.) > > >> >>> > > >> >>> The Javadoc reads in part: > > >> >>> > > >> >>> * This class implements a wrapper for a locked (hidden) > > object, > > >> and > > >> >>> * provides the means to access it. The basic idea, is that > the > > >> user > > >> >>> * code forsakes all references to the locked object, using > > only > > >> the > > >> >>> * wrapper object, and the accessor methods > > >> >>> > > >> >>> But this is not the case, the object itself is not locked in > > >> >>> the traditional sense with a monitor through a synchronized > > >> block, so > > >> > we > > >> >>> need to update the Javadoc as well. > > >> >>> > > >> >>> To me, this is more about executing blocks of code (through > > >> lambdas) > > >>
Re: [lang] org.apache.commons.lang3.concurrent.Locks.Lock
JCIP seems to call this idea a monitor, but that’s also the general implicit locking mechanism in Java. On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 17:56 Gary Gregory wrote: > Typo: LockingVisitors. > > On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 6:56 PM Gary Gregory > wrote: > > > In the PR https://github.com/apache/commons-lang/pull/559 I am going > > with "LockingVistors". > > > > Gary > > > > On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 2:33 PM Rob Tompkins wrote: > > > >> I’m not all that familiar with that area of academia. Let me see what I > >> can dig up > >> > >> -Rob > >> > >> > On Jul 7, 2020, at 2:19 PM, Matt Sicker wrote: > >> > > >> > Are there any academic references for this? Or even something from > >> > Java Concurrency in Practice? Those are good sources for names around > >> > concurrency. > >> > > >> > On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 at 12:42, Rob Tompkins wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Why not make the name “ThreadedLambdaSynchronizer” or something like > >> that….just something more descriptive here that get’s closer to what the > >> intended functionality is. > >> >> > >> >> That said, I’m not particularly tied to the name > >> “ThreadedLambdaSynchronizer” just spitballing here for something more > >> descriptive than “Lock” > >> >> > >> >> -Rob > >> >> > >> >>> On Jun 29, 2020, at 12:58 PM, Matt Sicker wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>> Now that starts to sound like Apache Groovy or Kotlin. > >> >>> > >> >>> On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 at 11:58, Xeno Amess > wrote: > >> > >> soemtimes I really wish to rewrite/add some functions in jdk > >> directly... > >> especially for reusing some package private static functions... > >> > >> Gary Gregory 于2020年6月30日周二 上午12:01写道： > >> > >> > I'm not sure talking to the JDK folks is helpful IMO. We are still > >> > targeting Java 8. The customers I deal with are migrating from 8 > to > >> 11, and > >> > Java 11 is not everywhere our customers are. So talking about > >> something > >> > that might end up in Java... 25 seems to be not in our user's best > >> or > >> > immediate interest. It might be good for Java in the long oh so > >> long term > >> > of course. > >> > > >> > Gary > >> > > >> > On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 8:31 AM Rob Tompkins > >> wrote: > >> > > >> >> At first look, I’m a little surprised we’re trying to take on > this > >> >> functionality. Has anyone reached out to the JDK guys to see if > >> they’d be > >> >> interested in having it in the JDK? That said, if we approach it > >> from > >> > that > >> >> path, we would lose the functionality in older versions of java. > So > >> > maybe I > >> >> just talked myself out of the idea of putting it in the JDK > >> >> > >> >> Just wanted to stream of consciousness my initial gut vibe. > >> >> > >> >> Cheers, > >> >> -Rob > >> >> > >> >>> On Jun 26, 2020, at 10:07 AM, Gary Gregory < > >> garydgreg...@gmail.com> > >> >> wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>> Hi All: > >> >>> > >> >>> I know email is a challenging medium for code reviews, so please > >> > consider > >> >>> these comments coming from my best intentions, constructive and > >> caring > >> >> ;-) > >> >>> Also please excuse the meandering nature of this post. > >> >>> > >> >>> The new class org.apache.commons.lang3.concurrent.Locks.Lock > needs > >> > better > >> >>> names IMO, not just the class name. There is already a JRE > >> interface > >> >> called > >> >>> Lock so this class name is confusing (to me.) > >> >>> > >> >>> The Javadoc reads in part: > >> >>> > >> >>> * This class implements a wrapper for a locked (hidden) > object, > >> and > >> >>> * provides the means to access it. The basic idea, is that the > >> user > >> >>> * code forsakes all references to the locked object, using > only > >> the > >> >>> * wrapper object, and the accessor methods > >> >>> > >> >>> But this is not the case, the object itself is not locked in > >> >>> the traditional sense with a monitor through a synchronized > >> block, so > >> > we > >> >>> need to update the Javadoc as well. > >> >>> > >> >>> To me, this is more about executing blocks of code (through > >> lambdas) > >> >> which > >> >>> then get 'safe' (via locking) access to an underlying object. > This > >> > tells > >> >> me > >> >>> the class is more about the functional interfaces than about a > >> domain > >> >>> "Object", hence the name "Lock" is not the best. It's really > more > >> of a > >> >>> visitor where the visitation pattern is: Lock, Visit, Unlock. > >> >>> Instead, maybe: > >> >>> - StampledLockVisitor (more specific) > >> >>> - LockingVisitor (more general) > >> >>> - SafeObject (vague) > >> >>> - ObjectLocker (vague) > >> >>> - rejected: LockedObject since the object itself is not locked. > >> >>> - ? > >> >>> > >> >>> What is also confusing IMO
Re: [lang] org.apache.commons.lang3.concurrent.Locks.Lock
Typo: LockingVisitors. On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 6:56 PM Gary Gregory wrote: > In the PR https://github.com/apache/commons-lang/pull/559 I am going > with "LockingVistors". > > Gary > > On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 2:33 PM Rob Tompkins wrote: > >> I’m not all that familiar with that area of academia. Let me see what I >> can dig up >> >> -Rob >> >> > On Jul 7, 2020, at 2:19 PM, Matt Sicker wrote: >> > >> > Are there any academic references for this? Or even something from >> > Java Concurrency in Practice? Those are good sources for names around >> > concurrency. >> > >> > On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 at 12:42, Rob Tompkins wrote: >> >> >> >> Why not make the name “ThreadedLambdaSynchronizer” or something like >> that….just something more descriptive here that get’s closer to what the >> intended functionality is. >> >> >> >> That said, I’m not particularly tied to the name >> “ThreadedLambdaSynchronizer” just spitballing here for something more >> descriptive than “Lock” >> >> >> >> -Rob >> >> >> >>> On Jun 29, 2020, at 12:58 PM, Matt Sicker wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Now that starts to sound like Apache Groovy or Kotlin. >> >>> >> >>> On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 at 11:58, Xeno Amess wrote: >> >> soemtimes I really wish to rewrite/add some functions in jdk >> directly... >> especially for reusing some package private static functions... >> >> Gary Gregory 于2020年6月30日周二 上午12:01写道： >> >> > I'm not sure talking to the JDK folks is helpful IMO. We are still >> > targeting Java 8. The customers I deal with are migrating from 8 to >> 11, and >> > Java 11 is not everywhere our customers are. So talking about >> something >> > that might end up in Java... 25 seems to be not in our user's best >> or >> > immediate interest. It might be good for Java in the long oh so >> long term >> > of course. >> > >> > Gary >> > >> > On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 8:31 AM Rob Tompkins >> wrote: >> > >> >> At first look, I’m a little surprised we’re trying to take on this >> >> functionality. Has anyone reached out to the JDK guys to see if >> they’d be >> >> interested in having it in the JDK? That said, if we approach it >> from >> > that >> >> path, we would lose the functionality in older versions of java. So >> > maybe I >> >> just talked myself out of the idea of putting it in the JDK >> >> >> >> Just wanted to stream of consciousness my initial gut vibe. >> >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> -Rob >> >> >> >>> On Jun 26, 2020, at 10:07 AM, Gary Gregory < >> garydgreg...@gmail.com> >> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Hi All: >> >>> >> >>> I know email is a challenging medium for code reviews, so please >> > consider >> >>> these comments coming from my best intentions, constructive and >> caring >> >> ;-) >> >>> Also please excuse the meandering nature of this post. >> >>> >> >>> The new class org.apache.commons.lang3.concurrent.Locks.Lock needs >> > better >> >>> names IMO, not just the class name. There is already a JRE >> interface >> >> called >> >>> Lock so this class name is confusing (to me.) >> >>> >> >>> The Javadoc reads in part: >> >>> >> >>> * This class implements a wrapper for a locked (hidden) object, >> and >> >>> * provides the means to access it. The basic idea, is that the >> user >> >>> * code forsakes all references to the locked object, using only >> the >> >>> * wrapper object, and the accessor methods >> >>> >> >>> But this is not the case, the object itself is not locked in >> >>> the traditional sense with a monitor through a synchronized >> block, so >> > we >> >>> need to update the Javadoc as well. >> >>> >> >>> To me, this is more about executing blocks of code (through >> lambdas) >> >> which >> >>> then get 'safe' (via locking) access to an underlying object. This >> > tells >> >> me >> >>> the class is more about the functional interfaces than about a >> domain >> >>> "Object", hence the name "Lock" is not the best. It's really more >> of a >> >>> visitor where the visitation pattern is: Lock, Visit, Unlock. >> >>> Instead, maybe: >> >>> - StampledLockVisitor (more specific) >> >>> - LockingVisitor (more general) >> >>> - SafeObject (vague) >> >>> - ObjectLocker (vague) >> >>> - rejected: LockedObject since the object itself is not locked. >> >>> - ? >> >>> >> >>> What is also confusing IMO is that the instance variable for the >> object >> >> is >> >>> called "lockedObject" but the object is in fact NOT locked all the >> > time. >> >> So >> >>> that needs to be renamed IMO: >> >>> - object (the simplest) >> >>> - subject >> >>> - domain >> >>> - target >> >>> - ? >> >>> >> >>> In the same vein, the StampedLock is named "lock" which is also >> > confusing >> >>> since
Re: [lang] org.apache.commons.lang3.concurrent.Locks.Lock
In the PR https://github.com/apache/commons-lang/pull/559 I am going with
"LockingVistors".
Gary
On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 2:33 PM Rob Tompkins wrote:
> I’m not all that familiar with that area of academia. Let me see what I
> can dig up
>
> -Rob
>
> > On Jul 7, 2020, at 2:19 PM, Matt Sicker wrote:
> >
> > Are there any academic references for this? Or even something from
> > Java Concurrency in Practice? Those are good sources for names around
> > concurrency.
> >
> > On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 at 12:42, Rob Tompkins wrote:
> >>
> >> Why not make the name “ThreadedLambdaSynchronizer” or something like
> that….just something more descriptive here that get’s closer to what the
> intended functionality is.
> >>
> >> That said, I’m not particularly tied to the name
> “ThreadedLambdaSynchronizer” just spitballing here for something more
> descriptive than “Lock”
> >>
> >> -Rob
> >>
> >>> On Jun 29, 2020, at 12:58 PM, Matt Sicker wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Now that starts to sound like Apache Groovy or Kotlin.
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 at 11:58, Xeno Amess wrote:
>
> soemtimes I really wish to rewrite/add some functions in jdk
> directly...
> especially for reusing some package private static functions...
>
> Gary Gregory 于2020年6月30日周二 上午12:01写道：
>
> > I'm not sure talking to the JDK folks is helpful IMO. We are still
> > targeting Java 8. The customers I deal with are migrating from 8 to
> 11, and
> > Java 11 is not everywhere our customers are. So talking about
> something
> > that might end up in Java... 25 seems to be not in our user's best or
> > immediate interest. It might be good for Java in the long oh so long
> term
> > of course.
> >
> > Gary
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 8:31 AM Rob Tompkins
> wrote:
> >
> >> At first look, I’m a little surprised we’re trying to take on this
> >> functionality. Has anyone reached out to the JDK guys to see if
> they’d be
> >> interested in having it in the JDK? That said, if we approach it
> from
> > that
> >> path, we would lose the functionality in older versions of java. So
> > maybe I
> >> just talked myself out of the idea of putting it in the JDK
> >>
> >> Just wanted to stream of consciousness my initial gut vibe.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> -Rob
> >>
> >>> On Jun 26, 2020, at 10:07 AM, Gary Gregory >
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi All:
> >>>
> >>> I know email is a challenging medium for code reviews, so please
> > consider
> >>> these comments coming from my best intentions, constructive and
> caring
> >> ;-)
> >>> Also please excuse the meandering nature of this post.
> >>>
> >>> The new class org.apache.commons.lang3.concurrent.Locks.Lock needs
> > better
> >>> names IMO, not just the class name. There is already a JRE
> interface
> >> called
> >>> Lock so this class name is confusing (to me.)
> >>>
> >>> The Javadoc reads in part:
> >>>
> >>> * This class implements a wrapper for a locked (hidden) object,
> and
> >>> * provides the means to access it. The basic idea, is that the
> user
> >>> * code forsakes all references to the locked object, using only
> the
> >>> * wrapper object, and the accessor methods
> >>>
> >>> But this is not the case, the object itself is not locked in
> >>> the traditional sense with a monitor through a synchronized block,
> so
> > we
> >>> need to update the Javadoc as well.
> >>>
> >>> To me, this is more about executing blocks of code (through
> lambdas)
> >> which
> >>> then get 'safe' (via locking) access to an underlying object. This
> > tells
> >> me
> >>> the class is more about the functional interfaces than about a
> domain
> >>> "Object", hence the name "Lock" is not the best. It's really more
> of a
> >>> visitor where the visitation pattern is: Lock, Visit, Unlock.
> >>> Instead, maybe:
> >>> - StampledLockVisitor (more specific)
> >>> - LockingVisitor (more general)
> >>> - SafeObject (vague)
> >>> - ObjectLocker (vague)
> >>> - rejected: LockedObject since the object itself is not locked.
> >>> - ?
> >>>
> >>> What is also confusing IMO is that the instance variable for the
> object
> >> is
> >>> called "lockedObject" but the object is in fact NOT locked all the
> > time.
> >> So
> >>> that needs to be renamed IMO:
> >>> - object (the simplest)
> >>> - subject
> >>> - domain
> >>> - target
> >>> - ?
> >>>
> >>> In the same vein, the StampedLock is named "lock" which is also
> > confusing
> >>> since StampedLock does not implement Lock.
> >>>
> >>> Why can't the domain object be null, it's never used by the
> framework?
> >>> Why this:
> >>> if (t == lockedObject) {
> >>> throw new
Re: [lang] org.apache.commons.lang3.concurrent.Locks.Lock
I’m not all that familiar with that area of academia. Let me see what I can dig
up
-Rob
> On Jul 7, 2020, at 2:19 PM, Matt Sicker wrote:
>
> Are there any academic references for this? Or even something from
> Java Concurrency in Practice? Those are good sources for names around
> concurrency.
>
> On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 at 12:42, Rob Tompkins wrote:
>>
>> Why not make the name “ThreadedLambdaSynchronizer” or something like
>> that….just something more descriptive here that get’s closer to what the
>> intended functionality is.
>>
>> That said, I’m not particularly tied to the name
>> “ThreadedLambdaSynchronizer” just spitballing here for something more
>> descriptive than “Lock”
>>
>> -Rob
>>
>>> On Jun 29, 2020, at 12:58 PM, Matt Sicker wrote:
>>>
>>> Now that starts to sound like Apache Groovy or Kotlin.
>>>
>>> On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 at 11:58, Xeno Amess wrote:
soemtimes I really wish to rewrite/add some functions in jdk directly...
especially for reusing some package private static functions...
Gary Gregory 于2020年6月30日周二 上午12:01写道：
> I'm not sure talking to the JDK folks is helpful IMO. We are still
> targeting Java 8. The customers I deal with are migrating from 8 to 11,
> and
> Java 11 is not everywhere our customers are. So talking about something
> that might end up in Java... 25 seems to be not in our user's best or
> immediate interest. It might be good for Java in the long oh so long term
> of course.
>
> Gary
>
> On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 8:31 AM Rob Tompkins wrote:
>
>> At first look, I’m a little surprised we’re trying to take on this
>> functionality. Has anyone reached out to the JDK guys to see if they’d be
>> interested in having it in the JDK? That said, if we approach it from
> that
>> path, we would lose the functionality in older versions of java. So
> maybe I
>> just talked myself out of the idea of putting it in the JDK
>>
>> Just wanted to stream of consciousness my initial gut vibe.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -Rob
>>
>>> On Jun 26, 2020, at 10:07 AM, Gary Gregory
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi All:
>>>
>>> I know email is a challenging medium for code reviews, so please
> consider
>>> these comments coming from my best intentions, constructive and caring
>> ;-)
>>> Also please excuse the meandering nature of this post.
>>>
>>> The new class org.apache.commons.lang3.concurrent.Locks.Lock needs
> better
>>> names IMO, not just the class name. There is already a JRE interface
>> called
>>> Lock so this class name is confusing (to me.)
>>>
>>> The Javadoc reads in part:
>>>
>>> * This class implements a wrapper for a locked (hidden) object, and
>>> * provides the means to access it. The basic idea, is that the user
>>> * code forsakes all references to the locked object, using only the
>>> * wrapper object, and the accessor methods
>>>
>>> But this is not the case, the object itself is not locked in
>>> the traditional sense with a monitor through a synchronized block, so
> we
>>> need to update the Javadoc as well.
>>>
>>> To me, this is more about executing blocks of code (through lambdas)
>> which
>>> then get 'safe' (via locking) access to an underlying object. This
> tells
>> me
>>> the class is more about the functional interfaces than about a domain
>>> "Object", hence the name "Lock" is not the best. It's really more of a
>>> visitor where the visitation pattern is: Lock, Visit, Unlock.
>>> Instead, maybe:
>>> - StampledLockVisitor (more specific)
>>> - LockingVisitor (more general)
>>> - SafeObject (vague)
>>> - ObjectLocker (vague)
>>> - rejected: LockedObject since the object itself is not locked.
>>> - ?
>>>
>>> What is also confusing IMO is that the instance variable for the object
>> is
>>> called "lockedObject" but the object is in fact NOT locked all the
> time.
>> So
>>> that needs to be renamed IMO:
>>> - object (the simplest)
>>> - subject
>>> - domain
>>> - target
>>> - ?
>>>
>>> In the same vein, the StampedLock is named "lock" which is also
> confusing
>>> since StampedLock does not implement Lock.
>>>
>>> Why can't the domain object be null, it's never used by the framework?
>>> Why this:
>>> if (t == lockedObject) {
>>> throw new IllegalStateException("The returned object
>>> is, in fact, the hidden object.");
>>> }
>>> ?
>>> This seems like an application specific constraint that has nothing to
> do
>>> with the framework.
>>>
>>> Now that I've considered the above, the API Locks.lock(O) is really
>>> misnamed, because it does not lock anything, it's a factory method.
Re: [lang] org.apache.commons.lang3.concurrent.Locks.Lock
Are there any academic references for this? Or even something from
Java Concurrency in Practice? Those are good sources for names around
concurrency.
On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 at 12:42, Rob Tompkins wrote:
>
> Why not make the name “ThreadedLambdaSynchronizer” or something like
> that….just something more descriptive here that get’s closer to what the
> intended functionality is.
>
> That said, I’m not particularly tied to the name “ThreadedLambdaSynchronizer”
> just spitballing here for something more descriptive than “Lock”
>
> -Rob
>
> > On Jun 29, 2020, at 12:58 PM, Matt Sicker wrote:
> >
> > Now that starts to sound like Apache Groovy or Kotlin.
> >
> > On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 at 11:58, Xeno Amess wrote:
> >>
> >> soemtimes I really wish to rewrite/add some functions in jdk directly...
> >> especially for reusing some package private static functions...
> >>
> >> Gary Gregory 于2020年6月30日周二 上午12:01写道：
> >>
> >>> I'm not sure talking to the JDK folks is helpful IMO. We are still
> >>> targeting Java 8. The customers I deal with are migrating from 8 to 11,
> >>> and
> >>> Java 11 is not everywhere our customers are. So talking about something
> >>> that might end up in Java... 25 seems to be not in our user's best or
> >>> immediate interest. It might be good for Java in the long oh so long term
> >>> of course.
> >>>
> >>> Gary
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 8:31 AM Rob Tompkins wrote:
> >>>
> At first look, I’m a little surprised we’re trying to take on this
> functionality. Has anyone reached out to the JDK guys to see if they’d be
> interested in having it in the JDK? That said, if we approach it from
> >>> that
> path, we would lose the functionality in older versions of java. So
> >>> maybe I
> just talked myself out of the idea of putting it in the JDK
>
> Just wanted to stream of consciousness my initial gut vibe.
>
> Cheers,
> -Rob
>
> > On Jun 26, 2020, at 10:07 AM, Gary Gregory
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi All:
> >
> > I know email is a challenging medium for code reviews, so please
> >>> consider
> > these comments coming from my best intentions, constructive and caring
> ;-)
> > Also please excuse the meandering nature of this post.
> >
> > The new class org.apache.commons.lang3.concurrent.Locks.Lock needs
> >>> better
> > names IMO, not just the class name. There is already a JRE interface
> called
> > Lock so this class name is confusing (to me.)
> >
> > The Javadoc reads in part:
> >
> >* This class implements a wrapper for a locked (hidden) object, and
> >* provides the means to access it. The basic idea, is that the user
> >* code forsakes all references to the locked object, using only the
> >* wrapper object, and the accessor methods
> >
> > But this is not the case, the object itself is not locked in
> > the traditional sense with a monitor through a synchronized block, so
> >>> we
> > need to update the Javadoc as well.
> >
> > To me, this is more about executing blocks of code (through lambdas)
> which
> > then get 'safe' (via locking) access to an underlying object. This
> >>> tells
> me
> > the class is more about the functional interfaces than about a domain
> > "Object", hence the name "Lock" is not the best. It's really more of a
> > visitor where the visitation pattern is: Lock, Visit, Unlock.
> > Instead, maybe:
> > - StampledLockVisitor (more specific)
> > - LockingVisitor (more general)
> > - SafeObject (vague)
> > - ObjectLocker (vague)
> > - rejected: LockedObject since the object itself is not locked.
> > - ?
> >
> > What is also confusing IMO is that the instance variable for the object
> is
> > called "lockedObject" but the object is in fact NOT locked all the
> >>> time.
> So
> > that needs to be renamed IMO:
> > - object (the simplest)
> > - subject
> > - domain
> > - target
> > - ?
> >
> > In the same vein, the StampedLock is named "lock" which is also
> >>> confusing
> > since StampedLock does not implement Lock.
> >
> > Why can't the domain object be null, it's never used by the framework?
> > Why this:
> > if (t == lockedObject) {
> > throw new IllegalStateException("The returned object
> > is, in fact, the hidden object.");
> > }
> > ?
> > This seems like an application specific constraint that has nothing to
> >>> do
> > with the framework.
> >
> > Now that I've considered the above, the API Locks.lock(O) is really
> > misnamed, because it does not lock anything, it's a factory method.
> >
> > Stepping back even more, since there is only a static inner class in
> Locks,
> > and no-hint that alternative implementations for different kind of
> >>> locks
>
Re: [lang] org.apache.commons.lang3.concurrent.Locks.Lock
Why not make the name “ThreadedLambdaSynchronizer” or something like that….just
something more descriptive here that get’s closer to what the intended
functionality is.
That said, I’m not particularly tied to the name “ThreadedLambdaSynchronizer”
just spitballing here for something more descriptive than “Lock”
-Rob
> On Jun 29, 2020, at 12:58 PM, Matt Sicker wrote:
>
> Now that starts to sound like Apache Groovy or Kotlin.
>
> On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 at 11:58, Xeno Amess wrote:
>>
>> soemtimes I really wish to rewrite/add some functions in jdk directly...
>> especially for reusing some package private static functions...
>>
>> Gary Gregory 于2020年6月30日周二 上午12:01写道：
>>
>>> I'm not sure talking to the JDK folks is helpful IMO. We are still
>>> targeting Java 8. The customers I deal with are migrating from 8 to 11, and
>>> Java 11 is not everywhere our customers are. So talking about something
>>> that might end up in Java... 25 seems to be not in our user's best or
>>> immediate interest. It might be good for Java in the long oh so long term
>>> of course.
>>>
>>> Gary
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 8:31 AM Rob Tompkins wrote:
>>>
At first look, I’m a little surprised we’re trying to take on this
functionality. Has anyone reached out to the JDK guys to see if they’d be
interested in having it in the JDK? That said, if we approach it from
>>> that
path, we would lose the functionality in older versions of java. So
>>> maybe I
just talked myself out of the idea of putting it in the JDK
Just wanted to stream of consciousness my initial gut vibe.
Cheers,
-Rob
> On Jun 26, 2020, at 10:07 AM, Gary Gregory
wrote:
>
> Hi All:
>
> I know email is a challenging medium for code reviews, so please
>>> consider
> these comments coming from my best intentions, constructive and caring
;-)
> Also please excuse the meandering nature of this post.
>
> The new class org.apache.commons.lang3.concurrent.Locks.Lock needs
>>> better
> names IMO, not just the class name. There is already a JRE interface
called
> Lock so this class name is confusing (to me.)
>
> The Javadoc reads in part:
>
>* This class implements a wrapper for a locked (hidden) object, and
>* provides the means to access it. The basic idea, is that the user
>* code forsakes all references to the locked object, using only the
>* wrapper object, and the accessor methods
>
> But this is not the case, the object itself is not locked in
> the traditional sense with a monitor through a synchronized block, so
>>> we
> need to update the Javadoc as well.
>
> To me, this is more about executing blocks of code (through lambdas)
which
> then get 'safe' (via locking) access to an underlying object. This
>>> tells
me
> the class is more about the functional interfaces than about a domain
> "Object", hence the name "Lock" is not the best. It's really more of a
> visitor where the visitation pattern is: Lock, Visit, Unlock.
> Instead, maybe:
> - StampledLockVisitor (more specific)
> - LockingVisitor (more general)
> - SafeObject (vague)
> - ObjectLocker (vague)
> - rejected: LockedObject since the object itself is not locked.
> - ?
>
> What is also confusing IMO is that the instance variable for the object
is
> called "lockedObject" but the object is in fact NOT locked all the
>>> time.
So
> that needs to be renamed IMO:
> - object (the simplest)
> - subject
> - domain
> - target
> - ?
>
> In the same vein, the StampedLock is named "lock" which is also
>>> confusing
> since StampedLock does not implement Lock.
>
> Why can't the domain object be null, it's never used by the framework?
> Why this:
> if (t == lockedObject) {
> throw new IllegalStateException("The returned object
> is, in fact, the hidden object.");
> }
> ?
> This seems like an application specific constraint that has nothing to
>>> do
> with the framework.
>
> Now that I've considered the above, the API Locks.lock(O) is really
> misnamed, because it does not lock anything, it's a factory method.
>
> Stepping back even more, since there is only a static inner class in
Locks,
> and no-hint that alternative implementations for different kind of
>>> locks
> are possible, I would say we do not need Locks, all we need is what is
now
> called Lock.
>
> It's not clear why some methods are protected, I would make those
private.
> It's not like I can use or plugin a Lock, ReentrantReadWriteLock, a
> ReentrantLock, or any ReadWriteLock instead of a StampedLock. I would
then
> make the current Lock class a standalone class which can then be used
Re: [lang] org.apache.commons.lang3.concurrent.Locks.Lock
Now that starts to sound like Apache Groovy or Kotlin.
On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 at 11:58, Xeno Amess wrote:
>
> soemtimes I really wish to rewrite/add some functions in jdk directly...
> especially for reusing some package private static functions...
>
> Gary Gregory 于2020年6月30日周二 上午12:01写道：
>
> > I'm not sure talking to the JDK folks is helpful IMO. We are still
> > targeting Java 8. The customers I deal with are migrating from 8 to 11, and
> > Java 11 is not everywhere our customers are. So talking about something
> > that might end up in Java... 25 seems to be not in our user's best or
> > immediate interest. It might be good for Java in the long oh so long term
> > of course.
> >
> > Gary
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 8:31 AM Rob Tompkins wrote:
> >
> > > At first look, I’m a little surprised we’re trying to take on this
> > > functionality. Has anyone reached out to the JDK guys to see if they’d be
> > > interested in having it in the JDK? That said, if we approach it from
> > that
> > > path, we would lose the functionality in older versions of java. So
> > maybe I
> > > just talked myself out of the idea of putting it in the JDK
> > >
> > > Just wanted to stream of consciousness my initial gut vibe.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > -Rob
> > >
> > > > On Jun 26, 2020, at 10:07 AM, Gary Gregory
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi All:
> > > >
> > > > I know email is a challenging medium for code reviews, so please
> > consider
> > > > these comments coming from my best intentions, constructive and caring
> > > ;-)
> > > > Also please excuse the meandering nature of this post.
> > > >
> > > > The new class org.apache.commons.lang3.concurrent.Locks.Lock needs
> > better
> > > > names IMO, not just the class name. There is already a JRE interface
> > > called
> > > > Lock so this class name is confusing (to me.)
> > > >
> > > > The Javadoc reads in part:
> > > >
> > > > * This class implements a wrapper for a locked (hidden) object, and
> > > > * provides the means to access it. The basic idea, is that the user
> > > > * code forsakes all references to the locked object, using only the
> > > > * wrapper object, and the accessor methods
> > > >
> > > > But this is not the case, the object itself is not locked in
> > > > the traditional sense with a monitor through a synchronized block, so
> > we
> > > > need to update the Javadoc as well.
> > > >
> > > > To me, this is more about executing blocks of code (through lambdas)
> > > which
> > > > then get 'safe' (via locking) access to an underlying object. This
> > tells
> > > me
> > > > the class is more about the functional interfaces than about a domain
> > > > "Object", hence the name "Lock" is not the best. It's really more of a
> > > > visitor where the visitation pattern is: Lock, Visit, Unlock.
> > > > Instead, maybe:
> > > > - StampledLockVisitor (more specific)
> > > > - LockingVisitor (more general)
> > > > - SafeObject (vague)
> > > > - ObjectLocker (vague)
> > > > - rejected: LockedObject since the object itself is not locked.
> > > > - ?
> > > >
> > > > What is also confusing IMO is that the instance variable for the object
> > > is
> > > > called "lockedObject" but the object is in fact NOT locked all the
> > time.
> > > So
> > > > that needs to be renamed IMO:
> > > > - object (the simplest)
> > > > - subject
> > > > - domain
> > > > - target
> > > > - ?
> > > >
> > > > In the same vein, the StampedLock is named "lock" which is also
> > confusing
> > > > since StampedLock does not implement Lock.
> > > >
> > > > Why can't the domain object be null, it's never used by the framework?
> > > > Why this:
> > > >if (t == lockedObject) {
> > > >throw new IllegalStateException("The returned object
> > > > is, in fact, the hidden object.");
> > > >}
> > > > ?
> > > > This seems like an application specific constraint that has nothing to
> > do
> > > > with the framework.
> > > >
> > > > Now that I've considered the above, the API Locks.lock(O) is really
> > > > misnamed, because it does not lock anything, it's a factory method.
> > > >
> > > > Stepping back even more, since there is only a static inner class in
> > > Locks,
> > > > and no-hint that alternative implementations for different kind of
> > locks
> > > > are possible, I would say we do not need Locks, all we need is what is
> > > now
> > > > called Lock.
> > > >
> > > > It's not clear why some methods are protected, I would make those
> > > private.
> > > > It's not like I can use or plugin a Lock, ReentrantReadWriteLock, a
> > > > ReentrantLock, or any ReadWriteLock instead of a StampedLock. I would
> > > then
> > > > make the current Lock class a standalone class which can then be used
> > > later
> > > > from a factory class (now Locks) where we can then fill in with
> > different
> > > > implementations.
> > > >
> > > > The Javadoc talks about a "hidden" object but it is not hidden since it
> > > is
> > > > passed to all
Re: [lang] org.apache.commons.lang3.concurrent.Locks.Lock
soemtimes I really wish to rewrite/add some functions in jdk directly...
especially for reusing some package private static functions...
Gary Gregory 于2020年6月30日周二 上午12:01写道：
> I'm not sure talking to the JDK folks is helpful IMO. We are still
> targeting Java 8. The customers I deal with are migrating from 8 to 11, and
> Java 11 is not everywhere our customers are. So talking about something
> that might end up in Java... 25 seems to be not in our user's best or
> immediate interest. It might be good for Java in the long oh so long term
> of course.
>
> Gary
>
> On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 8:31 AM Rob Tompkins wrote:
>
> > At first look, I’m a little surprised we’re trying to take on this
> > functionality. Has anyone reached out to the JDK guys to see if they’d be
> > interested in having it in the JDK? That said, if we approach it from
> that
> > path, we would lose the functionality in older versions of java. So
> maybe I
> > just talked myself out of the idea of putting it in the JDK
> >
> > Just wanted to stream of consciousness my initial gut vibe.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > -Rob
> >
> > > On Jun 26, 2020, at 10:07 AM, Gary Gregory
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi All:
> > >
> > > I know email is a challenging medium for code reviews, so please
> consider
> > > these comments coming from my best intentions, constructive and caring
> > ;-)
> > > Also please excuse the meandering nature of this post.
> > >
> > > The new class org.apache.commons.lang3.concurrent.Locks.Lock needs
> better
> > > names IMO, not just the class name. There is already a JRE interface
> > called
> > > Lock so this class name is confusing (to me.)
> > >
> > > The Javadoc reads in part:
> > >
> > > * This class implements a wrapper for a locked (hidden) object, and
> > > * provides the means to access it. The basic idea, is that the user
> > > * code forsakes all references to the locked object, using only the
> > > * wrapper object, and the accessor methods
> > >
> > > But this is not the case, the object itself is not locked in
> > > the traditional sense with a monitor through a synchronized block, so
> we
> > > need to update the Javadoc as well.
> > >
> > > To me, this is more about executing blocks of code (through lambdas)
> > which
> > > then get 'safe' (via locking) access to an underlying object. This
> tells
> > me
> > > the class is more about the functional interfaces than about a domain
> > > "Object", hence the name "Lock" is not the best. It's really more of a
> > > visitor where the visitation pattern is: Lock, Visit, Unlock.
> > > Instead, maybe:
> > > - StampledLockVisitor (more specific)
> > > - LockingVisitor (more general)
> > > - SafeObject (vague)
> > > - ObjectLocker (vague)
> > > - rejected: LockedObject since the object itself is not locked.
> > > - ?
> > >
> > > What is also confusing IMO is that the instance variable for the object
> > is
> > > called "lockedObject" but the object is in fact NOT locked all the
> time.
> > So
> > > that needs to be renamed IMO:
> > > - object (the simplest)
> > > - subject
> > > - domain
> > > - target
> > > - ?
> > >
> > > In the same vein, the StampedLock is named "lock" which is also
> confusing
> > > since StampedLock does not implement Lock.
> > >
> > > Why can't the domain object be null, it's never used by the framework?
> > > Why this:
> > >if (t == lockedObject) {
> > >throw new IllegalStateException("The returned object
> > > is, in fact, the hidden object.");
> > >}
> > > ?
> > > This seems like an application specific constraint that has nothing to
> do
> > > with the framework.
> > >
> > > Now that I've considered the above, the API Locks.lock(O) is really
> > > misnamed, because it does not lock anything, it's a factory method.
> > >
> > > Stepping back even more, since there is only a static inner class in
> > Locks,
> > > and no-hint that alternative implementations for different kind of
> locks
> > > are possible, I would say we do not need Locks, all we need is what is
> > now
> > > called Lock.
> > >
> > > It's not clear why some methods are protected, I would make those
> > private.
> > > It's not like I can use or plugin a Lock, ReentrantReadWriteLock, a
> > > ReentrantLock, or any ReadWriteLock instead of a StampedLock. I would
> > then
> > > make the current Lock class a standalone class which can then be used
> > later
> > > from a factory class (now Locks) where we can then fill in with
> different
> > > implementations.
> > >
> > > The Javadoc talks about a "hidden" object but it is not hidden since it
> > is
> > > passed to all visitors!
> > >
> > > This test assumption is wrong:
> > >
> > > If our threads are running concurrently, then we expect to be
> > > faster
> > > than running one after the other.
> > >
> > > The VM or Java spec makes no such guarantee and the tests have no
> control
> > > over VM scheduling. There are cases where this will fail when under
>
Re: [lang] org.apache.commons.lang3.concurrent.Locks.Lock
I'm not sure talking to the JDK folks is helpful IMO. We are still
targeting Java 8. The customers I deal with are migrating from 8 to 11, and
Java 11 is not everywhere our customers are. So talking about something
that might end up in Java... 25 seems to be not in our user's best or
immediate interest. It might be good for Java in the long oh so long term
of course.
Gary
On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 8:31 AM Rob Tompkins wrote:
> At first look, I’m a little surprised we’re trying to take on this
> functionality. Has anyone reached out to the JDK guys to see if they’d be
> interested in having it in the JDK? That said, if we approach it from that
> path, we would lose the functionality in older versions of java. So maybe I
> just talked myself out of the idea of putting it in the JDK
>
> Just wanted to stream of consciousness my initial gut vibe.
>
> Cheers,
> -Rob
>
> > On Jun 26, 2020, at 10:07 AM, Gary Gregory
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi All:
> >
> > I know email is a challenging medium for code reviews, so please consider
> > these comments coming from my best intentions, constructive and caring
> ;-)
> > Also please excuse the meandering nature of this post.
> >
> > The new class org.apache.commons.lang3.concurrent.Locks.Lock needs better
> > names IMO, not just the class name. There is already a JRE interface
> called
> > Lock so this class name is confusing (to me.)
> >
> > The Javadoc reads in part:
> >
> > * This class implements a wrapper for a locked (hidden) object, and
> > * provides the means to access it. The basic idea, is that the user
> > * code forsakes all references to the locked object, using only the
> > * wrapper object, and the accessor methods
> >
> > But this is not the case, the object itself is not locked in
> > the traditional sense with a monitor through a synchronized block, so we
> > need to update the Javadoc as well.
> >
> > To me, this is more about executing blocks of code (through lambdas)
> which
> > then get 'safe' (via locking) access to an underlying object. This tells
> me
> > the class is more about the functional interfaces than about a domain
> > "Object", hence the name "Lock" is not the best. It's really more of a
> > visitor where the visitation pattern is: Lock, Visit, Unlock.
> > Instead, maybe:
> > - StampledLockVisitor (more specific)
> > - LockingVisitor (more general)
> > - SafeObject (vague)
> > - ObjectLocker (vague)
> > - rejected: LockedObject since the object itself is not locked.
> > - ?
> >
> > What is also confusing IMO is that the instance variable for the object
> is
> > called "lockedObject" but the object is in fact NOT locked all the time.
> So
> > that needs to be renamed IMO:
> > - object (the simplest)
> > - subject
> > - domain
> > - target
> > - ?
> >
> > In the same vein, the StampedLock is named "lock" which is also confusing
> > since StampedLock does not implement Lock.
> >
> > Why can't the domain object be null, it's never used by the framework?
> > Why this:
> >if (t == lockedObject) {
> >throw new IllegalStateException("The returned object
> > is, in fact, the hidden object.");
> >}
> > ?
> > This seems like an application specific constraint that has nothing to do
> > with the framework.
> >
> > Now that I've considered the above, the API Locks.lock(O) is really
> > misnamed, because it does not lock anything, it's a factory method.
> >
> > Stepping back even more, since there is only a static inner class in
> Locks,
> > and no-hint that alternative implementations for different kind of locks
> > are possible, I would say we do not need Locks, all we need is what is
> now
> > called Lock.
> >
> > It's not clear why some methods are protected, I would make those
> private.
> > It's not like I can use or plugin a Lock, ReentrantReadWriteLock, a
> > ReentrantLock, or any ReadWriteLock instead of a StampedLock. I would
> then
> > make the current Lock class a standalone class which can then be used
> later
> > from a factory class (now Locks) where we can then fill in with different
> > implementations.
> >
> > The Javadoc talks about a "hidden" object but it is not hidden since it
> is
> > passed to all visitors!
> >
> > This test assumption is wrong:
> >
> > If our threads are running concurrently, then we expect to be
> > faster
> > than running one after the other.
> >
> > The VM or Java spec makes no such guarantee and the tests have no control
> > over VM scheduling. There are cases where this will fail when under heavy
> > load for example where the cost of additional threads becomes
> overwhelming.
> >
> > Another item I am quite doubtful about is hiding checked exceptions by
> > rethrowning them as unchecked. I'd consider this an anti-pattern. If I am
> > using one of our "Failing" interfaces it is because I am expecting it to
> > fail. Perhaps this could be made smoother by refactoring to pass in a
> > lambda for an exception handler.
> >
>
Re: [lang] org.apache.commons.lang3.concurrent.Locks.Lock
At first look, I’m a little surprised we’re trying to take on this
functionality. Has anyone reached out to the JDK guys to see if they’d be
interested in having it in the JDK? That said, if we approach it from that
path, we would lose the functionality in older versions of java. So maybe I
just talked myself out of the idea of putting it in the JDK
Just wanted to stream of consciousness my initial gut vibe.
Cheers,
-Rob
> On Jun 26, 2020, at 10:07 AM, Gary Gregory wrote:
>
> Hi All:
>
> I know email is a challenging medium for code reviews, so please consider
> these comments coming from my best intentions, constructive and caring ;-)
> Also please excuse the meandering nature of this post.
>
> The new class org.apache.commons.lang3.concurrent.Locks.Lock needs better
> names IMO, not just the class name. There is already a JRE interface called
> Lock so this class name is confusing (to me.)
>
> The Javadoc reads in part:
>
> * This class implements a wrapper for a locked (hidden) object, and
> * provides the means to access it. The basic idea, is that the user
> * code forsakes all references to the locked object, using only the
> * wrapper object, and the accessor methods
>
> But this is not the case, the object itself is not locked in
> the traditional sense with a monitor through a synchronized block, so we
> need to update the Javadoc as well.
>
> To me, this is more about executing blocks of code (through lambdas) which
> then get 'safe' (via locking) access to an underlying object. This tells me
> the class is more about the functional interfaces than about a domain
> "Object", hence the name "Lock" is not the best. It's really more of a
> visitor where the visitation pattern is: Lock, Visit, Unlock.
> Instead, maybe:
> - StampledLockVisitor (more specific)
> - LockingVisitor (more general)
> - SafeObject (vague)
> - ObjectLocker (vague)
> - rejected: LockedObject since the object itself is not locked.
> - ?
>
> What is also confusing IMO is that the instance variable for the object is
> called "lockedObject" but the object is in fact NOT locked all the time. So
> that needs to be renamed IMO:
> - object (the simplest)
> - subject
> - domain
> - target
> - ?
>
> In the same vein, the StampedLock is named "lock" which is also confusing
> since StampedLock does not implement Lock.
>
> Why can't the domain object be null, it's never used by the framework?
> Why this:
>if (t == lockedObject) {
>throw new IllegalStateException("The returned object
> is, in fact, the hidden object.");
>}
> ?
> This seems like an application specific constraint that has nothing to do
> with the framework.
>
> Now that I've considered the above, the API Locks.lock(O) is really
> misnamed, because it does not lock anything, it's a factory method.
>
> Stepping back even more, since there is only a static inner class in Locks,
> and no-hint that alternative implementations for different kind of locks
> are possible, I would say we do not need Locks, all we need is what is now
> called Lock.
>
> It's not clear why some methods are protected, I would make those private.
> It's not like I can use or plugin a Lock, ReentrantReadWriteLock, a
> ReentrantLock, or any ReadWriteLock instead of a StampedLock. I would then
> make the current Lock class a standalone class which can then be used later
> from a factory class (now Locks) where we can then fill in with different
> implementations.
>
> The Javadoc talks about a "hidden" object but it is not hidden since it is
> passed to all visitors!
>
> This test assumption is wrong:
>
> If our threads are running concurrently, then we expect to be
> faster
> than running one after the other.
>
> The VM or Java spec makes no such guarantee and the tests have no control
> over VM scheduling. There are cases where this will fail when under heavy
> load for example where the cost of additional threads becomes overwhelming.
>
> Another item I am quite doubtful about is hiding checked exceptions by
> rethrowning them as unchecked. I'd consider this an anti-pattern. If I am
> using one of our "Failing" interfaces it is because I am expecting it to
> fail. Perhaps this could be made smoother by refactoring to pass in a
> lambda for an exception handler.
>
> I've crystallized my thoughts into code here as WIP (Javadoc needs work):
> https://github.com/apache/commons-lang/pull/559
>
> Not as important as the above:
> The example in the Javadoc uses logging as its domain subject, a "logging"
> API (PrintStream) which is not a good example IMO. Logging frameworks
> today like Log4j handle multi-threaded applications normally without having
> developers meddle in it. Yes, I understand it's a simple example but I am
> hoping we can come up with something more realistic or useful.
>
> Thank you,
> Gary
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Re: [lang] org.apache.commons.lang3.concurrent.Locks.Lock
The 'Locks' class is in master. My PR is in my 1st message.
Gary
On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 5:27 PM Miguel Muñoz wrote:
> The "lockedObject" might be better named "lockableObject." That way it
> makes no assumptions about its current state. Building on this, the class
> might be called Lockable.
>
> However, I also like the idea of calling the class Locker, as in a gym
> locker. The idea is that it holds something important. Or (since Locker
> also sounds like a verb form) maybe it could be called a LockBox. That
> implies that it wraps something, which is what we want.
>
> I may come up with better suggestions if I could see the class. It's not in
> master, and I don't see it on any branch. Can you provide a link?
>
> — Miguel Muñoz
>
> On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 7:07 AM Gary Gregory
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi All:
> >
> > I know email is a challenging medium for code reviews, so please consider
> > these comments coming from my best intentions, constructive and caring
> ;-)
> > Also please excuse the meandering nature of this post.
> >
> > The new class org.apache.commons.lang3.concurrent.Locks.Lock needs better
> > names IMO, not just the class name. There is already a JRE interface
> called
> > Lock so this class name is confusing (to me.)
> >
> > The Javadoc reads in part:
> >
> > * This class implements a wrapper for a locked (hidden) object, and
> > * provides the means to access it. The basic idea, is that the user
> > * code forsakes all references to the locked object, using only the
> > * wrapper object, and the accessor methods
> >
> > But this is not the case, the object itself is not locked in
> > the traditional sense with a monitor through a synchronized block, so we
> > need to update the Javadoc as well.
> >
> > To me, this is more about executing blocks of code (through lambdas)
> which
> > then get 'safe' (via locking) access to an underlying object. This tells
> me
> > the class is more about the functional interfaces than about a domain
> > "Object", hence the name "Lock" is not the best. It's really more of a
> > visitor where the visitation pattern is: Lock, Visit, Unlock.
> > Instead, maybe:
> > - StampledLockVisitor (more specific)
> > - LockingVisitor (more general)
> > - SafeObject (vague)
> > - ObjectLocker (vague)
> > - rejected: LockedObject since the object itself is not locked.
> > - ?
> >
> > What is also confusing IMO is that the instance variable for the object
> is
> > called "lockedObject" but the object is in fact NOT locked all the time.
> So
> > that needs to be renamed IMO:
> > - object (the simplest)
> > - subject
> > - domain
> > - target
> > - ?
> >
> > In the same vein, the StampedLock is named "lock" which is also confusing
> > since StampedLock does not implement Lock.
> >
> > Why can't the domain object be null, it's never used by the framework?
> > Why this:
> > if (t == lockedObject) {
> > throw new IllegalStateException("The returned object
> > is, in fact, the hidden object.");
> > }
> > ?
> > This seems like an application specific constraint that has nothing to do
> > with the framework.
> >
> > Now that I've considered the above, the API Locks.lock(O) is really
> > misnamed, because it does not lock anything, it's a factory method.
> >
> > Stepping back even more, since there is only a static inner class in
> Locks,
> > and no-hint that alternative implementations for different kind of locks
> > are possible, I would say we do not need Locks, all we need is what is
> now
> > called Lock.
> >
> > It's not clear why some methods are protected, I would make those
> private.
> > It's not like I can use or plugin a Lock, ReentrantReadWriteLock, a
> > ReentrantLock, or any ReadWriteLock instead of a StampedLock. I would
> then
> > make the current Lock class a standalone class which can then be used
> later
> > from a factory class (now Locks) where we can then fill in with different
> > implementations.
> >
> > The Javadoc talks about a "hidden" object but it is not hidden since it
> is
> > passed to all visitors!
> >
> > This test assumption is wrong:
> >
> > If our threads are running concurrently, then we expect to be
> > faster
> > than running one after the other.
> >
> > The VM or Java spec makes no such guarantee and the tests have no control
> > over VM scheduling. There are cases where this will fail when under heavy
> > load for example where the cost of additional threads becomes
> overwhelming.
> >
> > Another item I am quite doubtful about is hiding checked exceptions by
> > rethrowning them as unchecked. I'd consider this an anti-pattern. If I am
> > using one of our "Failing" interfaces it is because I am expecting it to
> > fail. Perhaps this could be made smoother by refactoring to pass in a
> > lambda for an exception handler.
> >
> > I've crystallized my thoughts into code here as WIP (Javadoc needs work):
> >
Re: [lang] org.apache.commons.lang3.concurrent.Locks.Lock
The "lockedObject" might be better named "lockableObject." That way it
makes no assumptions about its current state. Building on this, the class
might be called Lockable.
However, I also like the idea of calling the class Locker, as in a gym
locker. The idea is that it holds something important. Or (since Locker
also sounds like a verb form) maybe it could be called a LockBox. That
implies that it wraps something, which is what we want.
I may come up with better suggestions if I could see the class. It's not in
master, and I don't see it on any branch. Can you provide a link?
— Miguel Muñoz
On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 7:07 AM Gary Gregory wrote:
>
> Hi All:
>
> I know email is a challenging medium for code reviews, so please consider
> these comments coming from my best intentions, constructive and caring ;-)
> Also please excuse the meandering nature of this post.
>
> The new class org.apache.commons.lang3.concurrent.Locks.Lock needs better
> names IMO, not just the class name. There is already a JRE interface
called
> Lock so this class name is confusing (to me.)
>
> The Javadoc reads in part:
>
> * This class implements a wrapper for a locked (hidden) object, and
> * provides the means to access it. The basic idea, is that the user
> * code forsakes all references to the locked object, using only the
> * wrapper object, and the accessor methods
>
> But this is not the case, the object itself is not locked in
> the traditional sense with a monitor through a synchronized block, so we
> need to update the Javadoc as well.
>
> To me, this is more about executing blocks of code (through lambdas) which
> then get 'safe' (via locking) access to an underlying object. This tells
me
> the class is more about the functional interfaces than about a domain
> "Object", hence the name "Lock" is not the best. It's really more of a
> visitor where the visitation pattern is: Lock, Visit, Unlock.
> Instead, maybe:
> - StampledLockVisitor (more specific)
> - LockingVisitor (more general)
> - SafeObject (vague)
> - ObjectLocker (vague)
> - rejected: LockedObject since the object itself is not locked.
> - ?
>
> What is also confusing IMO is that the instance variable for the object is
> called "lockedObject" but the object is in fact NOT locked all the time.
So
> that needs to be renamed IMO:
> - object (the simplest)
> - subject
> - domain
> - target
> - ?
>
> In the same vein, the StampedLock is named "lock" which is also confusing
> since StampedLock does not implement Lock.
>
> Why can't the domain object be null, it's never used by the framework?
> Why this:
> if (t == lockedObject) {
> throw new IllegalStateException("The returned object
> is, in fact, the hidden object.");
> }
> ?
> This seems like an application specific constraint that has nothing to do
> with the framework.
>
> Now that I've considered the above, the API Locks.lock(O) is really
> misnamed, because it does not lock anything, it's a factory method.
>
> Stepping back even more, since there is only a static inner class in
Locks,
> and no-hint that alternative implementations for different kind of locks
> are possible, I would say we do not need Locks, all we need is what is now
> called Lock.
>
> It's not clear why some methods are protected, I would make those private.
> It's not like I can use or plugin a Lock, ReentrantReadWriteLock, a
> ReentrantLock, or any ReadWriteLock instead of a StampedLock. I would then
> make the current Lock class a standalone class which can then be used
later
> from a factory class (now Locks) where we can then fill in with different
> implementations.
>
> The Javadoc talks about a "hidden" object but it is not hidden since it is
> passed to all visitors!
>
> This test assumption is wrong:
>
> If our threads are running concurrently, then we expect to be
> faster
> than running one after the other.
>
> The VM or Java spec makes no such guarantee and the tests have no control
> over VM scheduling. There are cases where this will fail when under heavy
> load for example where the cost of additional threads becomes
overwhelming.
>
> Another item I am quite doubtful about is hiding checked exceptions by
> rethrowning them as unchecked. I'd consider this an anti-pattern. If I am
> using one of our "Failing" interfaces it is because I am expecting it to
> fail. Perhaps this could be made smoother by refactoring to pass in a
> lambda for an exception handler.
>
> I've crystallized my thoughts into code here as WIP (Javadoc needs work):
> https://github.com/apache/commons-lang/pull/559
>
> Not as important as the above:
> The example in the Javadoc uses logging as its domain subject, a "logging"
> API (PrintStream) which is not a good example IMO. Logging frameworks
> today like Log4j handle multi-threaded applications normally without
having
> developers meddle in it. Yes, I understand it's a simple example but I am
> hoping we can come
