Re: Video recording at ApacheCon EU
In principle, yes. In practice there is a great deal of work in extracting useful stuff like this. I have some embryonic plans, but I'm making no promises. Very happy to work with you for maximum impact. Sent from my tablet On Oct 29, 2012 2:07 PM, Sally Khudairi sallykhuda...@yahoo.com wrote: Thanks, Ross. Any chance we can post some or all or select highlights of talks on the WAR's YouTube account? [From the mobile; kindly excuse spelling/spacing/auto-correct anomalies] - Reply message - From: Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com To: con...@apache.org Cc: dev@community.apache.org, bo...@apache.org Subject: Video recording at ApacheCon EU Date: Mon, Oct 29, 2012 9:20 AM In the last board meeting I was asked if we could re-instate the plan to record all sessions at ACEU now that it looked to be in good financial health. Paul has kindly got a quote for us from the arena and they will do us HD video of all 6 tracks for circa €15000 (exc. VAT). We can afford this in the current budget projects since Nick and co have managed to sell the conference out (well done folks). Furthermore the ASF money we earmarked is currently unspent. I have asked Nick, as conference chair, to approve this and have indicated that I will take responsibility for it in the unlikely event that we need to dip into ASF funds to pay for it (on the assumption that the board are still comfortable with the budget approved for ConCom). I also indicated that the ComDev PMC will take responsibility for use of the video after the event. This is *just* recording the video and audio. There is no post-production work included in this price. My current thinking is that we will simply make the video available to the appropriate PMCs and they can do whatever post-processing they want to do. It is possible that the ComDev PMC will do some limited post-production but I'm not going to commit to that right now since that would be a voluntary effort. Nick has not yet given his approval so there is still time to ask us to slow down on this, but not much since the event is next week. Contracts will be changing hands with NewThinking soon. Ross Ross Gardler (@rgardler) OpenDirective http://opendirective.com
Re: Video recording at ApacheCon EU
On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 10:13 AM, Niclas Hedhman nic...@hedhman.org wrote: Peanut gallery; I think there is a lot value in recording events like this. 500 people visit, at the most 1/6 of the conference. 500,000 people can watch all of it at their leisure later. I would. But HD seems like overkill, and I also see the cost as steep. Perhaps some double-checks with InfoQ and/or other conference organizers? Also, in past events where we had done this kind of things (for free), we ended up never hosting the videos online. If we are going to spend money, we should have a clear path on not only recording it, but how, where and by what time we are going to make them available for the public. BTW, should this discussion really be on com-dev public discussion list ? -- Luciano Resende http://people.apache.org/~lresende http://twitter.com/lresende1975 http://lresende.blogspot.com/
Re: Video recording at ApacheCon EU
The budget may be available, but are the videos actually worth that value? Just because we have budget, doesn't mean we have to spend it. Geez. 15k euros is a LOT of money. Opportunity cost... some new hardware? Maybe another part-time infra admin? The question of can we get these recorded? was put out there, sure. But just a question, rather than spend whatever it takes to get the video. At 15k, it seems rather extravagant to me. Seems we can put that amount of cash to other/better uses. As a Director, I'm -1 on this expense. Just one vote of many, but that's my thinking. I don't see the value. Cheers, -g On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 9:20 AM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com wrote: In the last board meeting I was asked if we could re-instate the plan to record all sessions at ACEU now that it looked to be in good financial health. Paul has kindly got a quote for us from the arena and they will do us HD video of all 6 tracks for circa €15000 (exc. VAT). We can afford this in the current budget projects since Nick and co have managed to sell the conference out (well done folks). Furthermore the ASF money we earmarked is currently unspent. I have asked Nick, as conference chair, to approve this and have indicated that I will take responsibility for it in the unlikely event that we need to dip into ASF funds to pay for it (on the assumption that the board are still comfortable with the budget approved for ConCom). I also indicated that the ComDev PMC will take responsibility for use of the video after the event. This is *just* recording the video and audio. There is no post-production work included in this price. My current thinking is that we will simply make the video available to the appropriate PMCs and they can do whatever post-processing they want to do. It is possible that the ComDev PMC will do some limited post-production but I'm not going to commit to that right now since that would be a voluntary effort. Nick has not yet given his approval so there is still time to ask us to slow down on this, but not much since the event is next week. Contracts will be changing hands with NewThinking soon. Ross Ross Gardler (@rgardler) OpenDirective http://opendirective.com
Re: Video recording at ApacheCon EU
Peanut gallery; I think there is a lot value in recording events like this. 500 people visit, at the most 1/6 of the conference. 500,000 people can watch all of it at their leisure later. I would. But HD seems like overkill, and I also see the cost as steep. Perhaps some double-checks with InfoQ and/or other conference organizers? Also, check with our Platinum sponsors if they think whether this is good use of money, compared to other use of the money... Cheers Niclas On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 1:03 AM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote: The budget may be available, but are the videos actually worth that value? Just because we have budget, doesn't mean we have to spend it. Geez. 15k euros is a LOT of money. Opportunity cost... some new hardware? Maybe another part-time infra admin? The question of can we get these recorded? was put out there, sure. But just a question, rather than spend whatever it takes to get the video. At 15k, it seems rather extravagant to me. Seems we can put that amount of cash to other/better uses. As a Director, I'm -1 on this expense. Just one vote of many, but that's my thinking. I don't see the value. Cheers, -g On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 9:20 AM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com wrote: In the last board meeting I was asked if we could re-instate the plan to record all sessions at ACEU now that it looked to be in good financial health. Paul has kindly got a quote for us from the arena and they will do us HD video of all 6 tracks for circa €15000 (exc. VAT). We can afford this in the current budget projects since Nick and co have managed to sell the conference out (well done folks). Furthermore the ASF money we earmarked is currently unspent. I have asked Nick, as conference chair, to approve this and have indicated that I will take responsibility for it in the unlikely event that we need to dip into ASF funds to pay for it (on the assumption that the board are still comfortable with the budget approved for ConCom). I also indicated that the ComDev PMC will take responsibility for use of the video after the event. This is *just* recording the video and audio. There is no post-production work included in this price. My current thinking is that we will simply make the video available to the appropriate PMCs and they can do whatever post-processing they want to do. It is possible that the ComDev PMC will do some limited post-production but I'm not going to commit to that right now since that would be a voluntary effort. Nick has not yet given his approval so there is still time to ask us to slow down on this, but not much since the event is next week. Contracts will be changing hands with NewThinking soon. Ross Ross Gardler (@rgardler) OpenDirective http://opendirective.com -- Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer 河南南路555弄15号1901室。 http://www.qi4j.org - New Energy for Java I live here; http://tinyurl.com/3xugrbk I work here; http://tinyurl.com/6a2pl4j I relax here; http://tinyurl.com/2cgsug
