Re: Understanding the commit-then-review workflow
A practical example of a technical veto I've seen was when we added some new optimisations that interacted badly with a pre-existing API in some rare corner cases. This actually went into a release and it wasn't until a particularly vocal community member got round to upgrading that we became aware of the issue. As it was central to a their product stack and that product stack is widely used in our field both by ourselves and the wider community this was an appropriate veto. After some heated discussion (because at first we didn't understand why this was a problem - this was an example of when a minimal test case is useless without the wider context) we were able to come up with a technical solution that preserved the new optimisations and resolved the bad interactions. Rob On 09/07/2014 08:12, Mark Struberg strub...@yahoo.de wrote: I think the vetoing -1 from PMCs is mainly used for 'legal' reasons. If e.g. some new committer adds code which he took from an external project and it's license is not appropriate. I've not yet seen -1 for purely technical reasons. This might happen. But usually a consensus is reached after the pros and cons got discussed on the list. LieGrue, strub On Wednesday, 9 July 2014, 3:36, Justin Mclean jus...@classsoftware.com wrote: Hi, Ugh. That looks garbled to me. What exactly is a code modification vote? Any committer should be allowed to -1 a commit (with reasons) Any committer can vote -1 it's just not normally binding (depending on project guidelines), I certainly can't see it being ignored when it does happen, even a -1 by a user is probably trying to tell you something is up :-) There was a long discussion about this when we were drafting up the Apache Flex guidelines as the default rules are not always clear. The was an attempt to get this wording fixed up but not much come of it. Thanks, Justin
Re: ApacheCon EU: What I need help with
On Jul 8, 2014 1:12 PM, Pierre Smits pierre.sm...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Rich, That first link that you included redirects to http://tm3.org ... The spreadsheet is at *http://tm3.org/aceu2014tracks* Looks like Thunderbird added asterisks around the link. Weird. Try without. http://tm3.org/aceu2014tracks * Check the first tab. If something isn't in a track (ie, isn't color coded in any way), put it in one. Even if it's a track with only one thing in it. Otherwise it might get overlooked later on. * Check a track you know something about - if you disagree, move stuff to another track. Note that some tracks are topic based, while other tracks are project based. We want to build tracks that people will attend, not necessarily tracks that are 100% correctly categorized, so think about topics rather than just projects, if possible. * If a track is huge, consider splitting into logical subsets (days of the same track, maybe?) The Big Data track is a likely candidate for this, as is community. (Internal facing, vs external facing community, worked well as categorizations at ACNA.) * Within a track, sort by type - that is, list regular sessions first, then tutorials, then lightning talks and bofs, with a blank line between each group. * And, still, we need reviewers. There are a lot of unreviewed talks. That's at http://events.linuxfoundation.org/cfp/cfp-list?field_ presentation_event_target_id%5B%5D=2260 Thanks! On 06/30/2014 12:11 PM, Rich Bowen wrote: I need to call on all you find people who have offered help with ApacheCon. I didn't get anything done on it this weekend, and I don't want to be holding anybody up. These are the things that I can use help with. * Reviewing talks - if you're willing, please sign on to the CFP system - http://events.linuxfoundation.org/cfp/cfp-list?field_ presentation_event_target_id%5B%5D=2260 - and start rating talks. If you don't have authorization to get to that interface, please tell me and C. Craig Ross c...@linuxfoundation.org to get that fixed. * Sorting into tracks/categories. All of the talks are in a Google Doc at https://docs.google.com/a/rcbowen.com/spreadsheets/d/ 1NSFxoGYkzpkorJkRN7CNnZpsaO59qro3L5YjeTBVSZE/edit#gid=0 I need help dividing them up into tracks/topics/projects so that when we have the ratings, it'll be easy to identify which ones to select and how to divide them up. Please a) create a tab for what you think a topic should be, b) COPY (not move) the record from ALL TALKS to that tab, and c) highlight the entry on the ALL TALKS tab in a different color to indicate that it has been categorized. * If you are familiar with Budapest, help us with the content for http://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/BudapestTips * If your project is planning to participate in the hackathon, put some ideas at http://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/HackathonEU14 to get attendees excited about our on-site activities. * If your company is interested in sponsoring the event, but doesn't know how, please email me and Angela Brown ang...@linuxfoundation.org Thanks so much for any way that you can help, be it minutes our hours. --Rich -- rbo...@apache.org http://apache.org/
Re: ApacheCon EU: What I need help with
Hi Rich, On 08/07/14 18:49, Rich Bowen wrote: * Check the first tab. If something isn't in a track (ie, isn't color coded in any way), put it in one. Even if it's a track with only one thing in it. Otherwise it might get overlooked later on. Regarding the Linked Data track, there are some proposals: * Multi Language Content Discovery Through Entity Driven Search * How to build a cloud-based product using the Apache infrastructure * LocationMapper * Contextual Auto-tagging of Images using the surrounding text and similar images which fit by topic and target projects, but they may also fit with others (for instance the first one is Solr-related). How to you want to approach the categorization of those that are somehow in the middle of different tracks? Thanks. Cheers, -- Sergio Fernández Partner Technology Manager Redlink GmbH m: +43 660 2747 925 e: sergio.fernan...@redlink.co w: http://redlink.co
Re: ApacheCon EU: What I need help with
Sergio, as we've discussed off list, if you can put together a compelling topic based track, please do so. The list you put together earlier looks great. Lets make that a tab in the spreadsheet. -- Rich Bowen, mobile edition rbo...@rcbowen.com On Jul 9, 2014 8:37 AM, Sergio Fernández wik...@apache.org wrote: Hi Rich, On 08/07/14 18:49, Rich Bowen wrote: * Check the first tab. If something isn't in a track (ie, isn't color coded in any way), put it in one. Even if it's a track with only one thing in it. Otherwise it might get overlooked later on. Regarding the Linked Data track, there are some proposals: * Multi Language Content Discovery Through Entity Driven Search * How to build a cloud-based product using the Apache infrastructure * LocationMapper * Contextual Auto-tagging of Images using the surrounding text and similar images which fit by topic and target projects, but they may also fit with others (for instance the first one is Solr-related). How to you want to approach the categorization of those that are somehow in the middle of different tracks? Thanks. Cheers, -- Sergio Fernández Partner Technology Manager Redlink GmbH m: +43 660 2747 925 e: sergio.fernan...@redlink.co w: http://redlink.co
Re: Proposing for Apache Member?
It is a bit strange to read that 'Contributor' is not the official role for anybody who is committed to an Apache project. Equally strange is it to read that both the 'User' and the 'Developer' is defined/explained as the person who is contributing. Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 9:27 PM, Chip Childers chipchild...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Jul 08, 2014 at 09:42:56PM +0300, Issac Goldstand wrote: Ross, So to clarify, not all ASF officers are necessarily ASF members? Correct. See: http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#roles
Re: Proposing for Apache Member?
Try reading http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html On 9 Jul 2014 22:20, Pierre Smits pierre.sm...@gmail.com wrote: It is a bit strange to read that 'Contributor' is not the official role for anybody who is committed to an Apache project. Equally strange is it to read that both the 'User' and the 'Developer' is defined/explained as the person who is contributing. Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 9:27 PM, Chip Childers chipchild...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Jul 08, 2014 at 09:42:56PM +0300, Issac Goldstand wrote: Ross, So to clarify, not all ASF officers are necessarily ASF members? Correct. See: http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#roles