Re: Fwd: A $5B Value: The Code in Linux Foundation Collaborative Projects

[Stefan Reich]

And please let's not forget either that *money makes no sense whatsoever*.

Cheers

PS: It looks like JavaX will be sponsored in the 7 digits range ($, that
is).
Am 01.10.2015 11:12 schrieb "sebb" :

> On 1 October 2015 at 08:19, David Nalley  wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 1:02 PM, Ross Gardler
> >  wrote:
> >> This whole process is nonsense
> >
> > In general I agree - CoCoMo is the worst model for valuation (except
> > for all of the others)
> >
> >>
> >> What is important is what economic value does the code produce. If we
> look at it that way I'd say our code (and that of LF for that matter) is
> worth many, many $B more than these numbers imply. The HTTPd project, for
> example, drives over 50% of the web - what's the value of the web?
> >>
> >
> > Yes, the important measure for us as a non-profit charity, and what we
> > should be highlighting is our impact on the world. 8 Trillion in
> > commerce will traverse the web this year, and roughly 50% of that will
> > be served by httpd - so $4T through a single project alone. The impact
> > is huge, not just in the web server space, but in Big Data, NoSQL,
> > Java, etc.
>
> I'm sure the value of httpd is large, but let's not forget that it is
> only a (small) part of the equation.
> There is lots of other software that is needed in order to sell stuff.
> For example, the web pages themselves, payment systems etc.
> Not to mention the physical systems to host the servers - and to deliver
> goods.
> All are necessary in order to make the system work.
>

Re: Fwd: A $5B Value: The Code in Linux Foundation Collaborative Projects

[David Nalley]

On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 1:02 PM, Ross Gardler
 wrote:
> This whole process is nonsense

In general I agree - CoCoMo is the worst model for valuation (except
for all of the others)

>
> What is important is what economic value does the code produce. If we look at 
> it that way I'd say our code (and that of LF for that matter) is worth many, 
> many $B more than these numbers imply. The HTTPd project, for example, drives 
> over 50% of the web - what's the value of the web?
>

Yes, the important measure for us as a non-profit charity, and what we
should be highlighting is our impact on the world. 8 Trillion in
commerce will traverse the web this year, and roughly 50% of that will
be served by httpd - so $4T through a single project alone. The impact
is huge, not just in the web server space, but in Big Data, NoSQL,
Java, etc.

Re: Fwd: A $5B Value: The Code in Linux Foundation Collaborative Projects

[sebb]

On 1 October 2015 at 08:19, David Nalley  wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 1:02 PM, Ross Gardler
>  wrote:
>> This whole process is nonsense
>
> In general I agree - CoCoMo is the worst model for valuation (except
> for all of the others)
>
>>
>> What is important is what economic value does the code produce. If we look 
>> at it that way I'd say our code (and that of LF for that matter) is worth 
>> many, many $B more than these numbers imply. The HTTPd project, for example, 
>> drives over 50% of the web - what's the value of the web?
>>
>
> Yes, the important measure for us as a non-profit charity, and what we
> should be highlighting is our impact on the world. 8 Trillion in
> commerce will traverse the web this year, and roughly 50% of that will
> be served by httpd - so $4T through a single project alone. The impact
> is huge, not just in the web server space, but in Big Data, NoSQL,
> Java, etc.

I'm sure the value of httpd is large, but let's not forget that it is
only a (small) part of the equation.
There is lots of other software that is needed in order to sell stuff.
For example, the web pages themselves, payment systems etc.
Not to mention the physical systems to host the servers - and to deliver goods.
All are necessary in order to make the system work.