Re: Collocating 2019 EU roadshow or/and TomcatCon with .JBCNConf 2019

2018-07-05 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
Hi Jonathan,

To have participate a couple of time, JBCNConf is a great event and
large enough to host the EU Roadshow.

I think it's a fair proposal and it makes sense that the EU roadshow
"jumps" on different event (just to cover a large geographical area).

My $0.01

Regards
JB

On 05/07/2018 14:27, Jonathan Vila wrote:
> Hi
> 
> We've been thinking on collocating EU roadshow or/and TomcatCon with
> JBCNConf ( www.jbcnconf.com) , in Barcelona for next 2019 edition.
> 
> What do you think on putting forces together ?
> 
> Jonathan Vila
> 

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Re: Road Show vs ApacheCon

2018-07-05 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
Yeah, I think we just use roadshow for "smaller than AC" because no one
liked miniApacheCon.  :-)  Your definition is a good one.  This is why you
get the special pointy hat.

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On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 4:35 PM, Rich Bowen  wrote:

> The terms Road Show and ApacheCon are being used almost interchangeably in
> our conversations, and I want to be clear as to the definitions of these
> terms.
>
> A Road Show, as the name implies, is something with multiple stops. An
> Asia Road Show, for example, might have stop in Beijing, Seoul, Tokyo, and
> Hong Kong.
>
> An EU Road Show might have a stop in Berlin, Barcelona, Paris, and London.
>
> A North America Road Show may have stops in DC, Chicago, San Francisco and
> Orlando.
>
> The point being that a Road Show is something that draws a local audience,
> not an international one, and focuses on the local community of
> contributors/developers, rather than trying to draw people from far away.
>
> Road shows are typically 2 days, but can be only one day.
>
> The individual event will be small in scope (not necessarily attendance,
> that's a different axis), having 1 or two tracks of content. It SHOULD have
> an Apache Way talk at some point, given by an ASF member, but otherwise the
> content can be anything Apache-related. It MAY be colocated with another
> event, as we did in Berlin.
>
>
> ApacheCon, on the other hand, is a complete conference. It will contain 4+
> tracks. It MUST have a hackathon space. It MUST have a State Of The Feather
> presentation, given by the President or his/her delegate. It SHOULD have a
> key signing and a BarCamp.
>
> Content MUST be selected by the ASF. This is a fluffy way of saying that
> the VP Conferences must approve of whoever the selection committee is
> comprised of. This distinguishes it from an event such as some we could
> mention, where the content is selected by another org (such as the Apache
> track at the upcoming Open Source Summit, by LF, in Edinburgh, for
> example), or by a vendor (we'll avoid naming names). This is not to say
> that those events suck, but that they are not Apache events. I hope that
> distinction is clear.
>
> It is typically 3 or more days.
>
> And importantly, it is the one annual event for the continent. As such, it
> draws an international audience, both in speakers and attendees.
>
>
> I bring this up because of objections I've received privately over a
> Barcelona Road Show being impossible because we're already talking about an
> event in Berlin. To me, this is irrelevant. Having an Apache Road Show
> every month in Europe (Except, of course, the month that contained an
> ApacheCon) would be an ideal outcome if it was financially sustainable. A
> Road Show is not ApacheCon. Which is why we don't call it ApacheCon.
>
> Now, it's the financially sustainable bit that we need to work on, one
> event at a time.
>
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Road Show vs ApacheCon

2018-07-05 Thread Rich Bowen
The terms Road Show and ApacheCon are being used almost interchangeably 
in our conversations, and I want to be clear as to the definitions of 
these terms.


A Road Show, as the name implies, is something with multiple stops. An 
Asia Road Show, for example, might have stop in Beijing, Seoul, Tokyo, 
and Hong Kong.


An EU Road Show might have a stop in Berlin, Barcelona, Paris, and London.

A North America Road Show may have stops in DC, Chicago, San Francisco 
and Orlando.


The point being that a Road Show is something that draws a local 
audience, not an international one, and focuses on the local community 
of contributors/developers, rather than trying to draw people from far away.


Road shows are typically 2 days, but can be only one day.

The individual event will be small in scope (not necessarily attendance, 
that's a different axis), having 1 or two tracks of content. It SHOULD 
have an Apache Way talk at some point, given by an ASF member, but 
otherwise the content can be anything Apache-related. It MAY be 
colocated with another event, as we did in Berlin.



ApacheCon, on the other hand, is a complete conference. It will contain 
4+ tracks. It MUST have a hackathon space. It MUST have a State Of The 
Feather presentation, given by the President or his/her delegate. It 
SHOULD have a key signing and a BarCamp.


Content MUST be selected by the ASF. This is a fluffy way of saying that 
the VP Conferences must approve of whoever the selection committee is 
comprised of. This distinguishes it from an event such as some we could 
mention, where the content is selected by another org (such as the 
Apache track at the upcoming Open Source Summit, by LF, in Edinburgh, 
for example), or by a vendor (we'll avoid naming names). This is not to 
say that those events suck, but that they are not Apache events. I hope 
that distinction is clear.


It is typically 3 or more days.

And importantly, it is the one annual event for the continent. As such, 
it draws an international audience, both in speakers and attendees.



I bring this up because of objections I've received privately over a 
Barcelona Road Show being impossible because we're already talking about 
an event in Berlin. To me, this is irrelevant. Having an Apache Road 
Show every month in Europe (Except, of course, the month that contained 
an ApacheCon) would be an ideal outcome if it was financially 
sustainable. A Road Show is not ApacheCon. Which is why we don't call it 
ApacheCon.


Now, it's the financially sustainable bit that we need to work on, one 
event at a time.




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Re: Collocating 2019 EU roadshow or/and TomcatCon with .JBCNConf 2019

2018-07-05 Thread Rich Bowen




On 07/05/2018 11:04 AM, Jonathan Vila wrote:

No, we haven't talked with Tomcat folks. in fact it started with a nice
chat with JF Clere , and we've moved up to this point.

1. What do you mean "how much content " ? talks ?


Yes. I'm asking how many tracks you'd want to be filled with Apache 
content. Or, alternately, would we just participate in the CFP process 
and promote it heavily to our internal audiences.



2. A cost ? No , obviously not. But I assume we can use the current
sponsors/energies/people on EU roadshow in order to make a super big
conference having both conference on 1.


Forgive me for being difficult, but this feels like a contradiction. If 
we're using current sponsors, then there's a cost. What I guess I'm 
asking is how much of the cost will need to be shouldered by Apache, as 
opposed to the cost covered by the existing JBCNConf conference 
production organization?




3. Dates, we are flexible. We mainly think on having JBCNconf on June
or first half of July, but it also depends on the availibility of venues,
etc
4. We already have volunteers that help running the JBCNConf, but we could
add more.
This all sounds good in principle. Identifying the folks who will 
actually lead this effort, and be the "boots on the ground" seems like a 
necessary next step.


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Re: Collocating 2019 EU roadshow or/and TomcatCon with .JBCNConf 2019

2018-07-05 Thread Ignasi Barrera
Hi!

I also think it is a great initiative, and JBCNConf is a great conference.
Collocating TomcatCon or the EU roadshow could be great idea.
I'm based in Barcelona and would be more than happy to help make this
happen, so count on me!


I.

On 5 July 2018 at 17:04, Jonathan Vila  wrote:

> No, we haven't talked with Tomcat folks. in fact it started with a nice
> chat with JF Clere , and we've moved up to this point.
>
> 1. What do you mean "how much content " ? talks ?
> 2. A cost ? No , obviously not. But I assume we can use the current
> sponsors/energies/people on EU roadshow in order to make a super big
> conference having both conference on 1.
> 3. Dates, we are flexible. We mainly think on having JBCNconf on June
> or first half of July, but it also depends on the availibility of venues,
> etc
> 4. We already have volunteers that help running the JBCNConf, but we could
> add more.
>
> Best
>
>
>
> Jonathan Vila
> --
> Barcelona Java Users Group Leader
> 
>  
>  
>  
>
>
> 2018-07-05 16:58 GMT+02:00 Rich Bowen :
>
> >
> >
> > On 07/05/2018 08:27 AM, Jonathan Vila wrote:
> >
> >> Hi
> >>
> >> We've been thinking on collocating EU roadshow or/and TomcatCon with
> >> JBCNConf ( www.jbcnconf.com) , in Barcelona for next 2019 edition.
> >>
> >> What do you think on putting forces together ?
> >>
> >
> > In general, a huge +1. Of course, there's details.
> >
> > Have you already talked with the Tomcat folks?
> >
> > It seems like a great fit for our (MANY) java projects. How much content
> > are you thinking that we would need to supply for such an event?
> >
> > Is there a cost involved in having a branded presence as "Apache
> Roadshow"
> > at your event.
> >
> > I'm always looking for an excuse to get back to Barcelona, but I'm not
> > sure if the timing will work for me, personally. We'll have to see. Do we
> > have local volunteers who can step up to make this happen?
> >
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Re: Collocating 2019 EU roadshow or/and TomcatCon with .JBCNConf 2019

2018-07-05 Thread Jonathan Vila
No, we haven't talked with Tomcat folks. in fact it started with a nice
chat with JF Clere , and we've moved up to this point.

1. What do you mean "how much content " ? talks ?
2. A cost ? No , obviously not. But I assume we can use the current
sponsors/energies/people on EU roadshow in order to make a super big
conference having both conference on 1.
3. Dates, we are flexible. We mainly think on having JBCNconf on June
or first half of July, but it also depends on the availibility of venues,
etc
4. We already have volunteers that help running the JBCNConf, but we could
add more.

Best



Jonathan Vila
-- 
Barcelona Java Users Group Leader

 
 
 


2018-07-05 16:58 GMT+02:00 Rich Bowen :

>
>
> On 07/05/2018 08:27 AM, Jonathan Vila wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> We've been thinking on collocating EU roadshow or/and TomcatCon with
>> JBCNConf ( www.jbcnconf.com) , in Barcelona for next 2019 edition.
>>
>> What do you think on putting forces together ?
>>
>
> In general, a huge +1. Of course, there's details.
>
> Have you already talked with the Tomcat folks?
>
> It seems like a great fit for our (MANY) java projects. How much content
> are you thinking that we would need to supply for such an event?
>
> Is there a cost involved in having a branded presence as "Apache Roadshow"
> at your event.
>
> I'm always looking for an excuse to get back to Barcelona, but I'm not
> sure if the timing will work for me, personally. We'll have to see. Do we
> have local volunteers who can step up to make this happen?
>
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Re: Collocating 2019 EU roadshow or/and TomcatCon with .JBCNConf 2019

2018-07-05 Thread Rich Bowen




On 07/05/2018 08:27 AM, Jonathan Vila wrote:

Hi

We've been thinking on collocating EU roadshow or/and TomcatCon with
JBCNConf ( www.jbcnconf.com) , in Barcelona for next 2019 edition.

What do you think on putting forces together ?


In general, a huge +1. Of course, there's details.

Have you already talked with the Tomcat folks?

It seems like a great fit for our (MANY) java projects. How much content 
are you thinking that we would need to supply for such an event?


Is there a cost involved in having a branded presence as "Apache 
Roadshow" at your event.


I'm always looking for an excuse to get back to Barcelona, but I'm not 
sure if the timing will work for me, personally. We'll have to see. Do 
we have local volunteers who can step up to make this happen?


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Collocating 2019 EU roadshow or/and TomcatCon with .JBCNConf 2019

2018-07-05 Thread Jonathan Vila
Hi

We've been thinking on collocating EU roadshow or/and TomcatCon with
JBCNConf ( www.jbcnconf.com) , in Barcelona for next 2019 edition.

What do you think on putting forces together ?

Jonathan Vila
-- 
Barcelona Java Users Group Leader

 
 
 


(Help wanted) Photography at ApacheCon Montreal

2018-07-05 Thread Rich Bowen
ApacheCon Montreal is now just 81 days away, and there are still a 
number of ways that you can get involved.


If you will be at ApacheCon, and you're a decent photographer, we need 
your help. We do not have an official on-site photographer this year, 
but we have so much in-house photography talent, we don't expect this to 
be a problem.


Here's how you can help.

* Bring your camera, and bring your talent.
* Sign up for a Flickr account, if you don’t already have one. Accounts 
are free. http://flickr.com/

* Take LOTS of photos on-site
* Upload them to Flickr and tag them #ApacheCon
* (Optional, but recommended) Indicate that your photos are Creative 
Commons, so that we can use them in promoting the event in the future
* (Optional, but recommended) Join the ApacheCon Flickr group - 
https://www.flickr.com/groups/apachecon/ - and add your photos there, too


When you do the above, your photos will show up on the bottom of 
http://apachecon.com/ and will also may be used in the future to promote 
the event. Thank you!


If you intend to participate in this crowdsourced photography effort, 
please let me know: Either respond to me here, and/or add your name to 
the list here: 
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VWJsUp0HSa2oH6yCbOJJqw5pgdxKt_m0R8yXUcQUA8A/edit#gid=0



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