Re: [ALC] ALC Indore is set for the next event 'Open Source and ASF Awareness'
On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 2:11 PM Priya Sharma wrote: > Hello All, > > ACL Indore successfully organized the "Open Source and ASF > Awareness" Session at Indore on 23 November 2019. > > We had a very fruitful and interactive session with bright and young minds > of Daisy Dales School. > > The post-event report and some clicks can be found at, > Report - https://s.apache.org/OS-ASF-Awareness-Nov-19 > Images - https://www.flickr.com/photos/alcindore/sets/72157711932233583/ > > Here are highlights from the event - > > -- 50+ Students participated in the event and attended the session. > -- The duration of the session was 1 hour 30 minutes including the > interaction with the audience. > -- The response from students was overwhelming for us, they asked some > surprisingly amazing questions to us, like > # How can I earn money by making my code open source? > # Who is the CEO of Apache? > # If I take an open-source project, customize it, and sell it to > my friend, can he also sell my customized project? > # How can I contribute to Apache? > # How much do you earn by taking these sessions? ;-) :D > # If a big organization, takes my open source project and earn > money from it, then will it be my loss? > # any many more... > > Are there more questions like these which were asked at the event. Please share the complete list if you can. These are important questions. Maybe there are resources out there which already answers some of these questions. We could just point people to these resources. Or We could create another FAQ to answer these questions and provide clarity. In the session, we covered the following topics. > > -- What is Open source software? > -- History of Open source and ASF > -- Comparison with closed source > -- Why you should know Open Source? > -- Why you should contribute to Open Source? > -- How can you contribute? > -- Open Source License > -- Examples Open source and project under ASF umbrella. > -- Apache Software Foundation History & Projects > -- How to pick a project based domain/programming language interest from > ASF > > After the session, we had a query resolution session in which the > students came up with very thoughtful and interesting queries, which > we didn't quite expect considering their age. > But they surprised us, most of them seemed to be aware and well-informed > even at this young age. > > We hope this session turns out useful for the students and we inch > closer towards realizing our dream of creating an impact. > > Students spent a great time with us even after the session, > they individually asked many queries and requested us to come back soon. > > ** In one line, these kids were awesome and we were filled with great > energy after interacting with them!! :) ** > > Thanks to the entire community for your continuous support and guidance. > Also thanks to the members of the ALC Indore [2] team for their ground > work. > > [1] https://s.apache.org/alc > [2] https://s.apache.org/alc-indore > > > To know more about Apache Local Community, please refer [1], and if > you are interested in setting up the ALC Chapter in your area > (town/city), please feel free to send a mail to ComDev team on > dev@community.apache.org > > > Best Regards, > Priya Sharma > ACL Indore > > On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 4:59 PM Priya Sharma > wrote: > > > > Dear all, > > > > The ALC [1] Indore Chapter [2] is planning 'Open Source & ASF > > Awareness' event at Daisy Dales School [3] on 23 November 2019 in > > Indore, India. > > > > As per our experience, we have found that the school students are not > > much aware of open-source, for most of them just a free to use > > software is open source. > > Since they are the future of the software industry, we thought of > > guiding them about Open-Source and the Apache Software Foundation. > > > > Our audience will be 11th and 12th-grade students studying computers > > as an additional subject. > > In the event, we will have a session on Open-Source and The Apache > > Software Foundation which will include the following topics. > > > > -- What is Open-Source > > -- History of Open-Source > > -- Open-Source Vs Closed source > > -- Open-Source license > > -- About the Apache Software Foundation and it's history > > -- About the Apache Way > > -- ICLA and how it should be signed to contribute in ASF > > -- Apache Incubator > > -- The Foundation structure > > -- The projects under the Apache umbrella > > -- The Mailing list and it's usage > > -- How to pick a project based domain/programming language interest > > > > Details of the event can be found at > > https://s.apache.org/OS-ASF-Awareness-Nov-19 > > > > Thank you everyone, for your kind support. > > > > [1] https://s.apache.org/alc > > [2] https://s.apache.org/alc-indore > > [3] http://www.daisydalesschool.info/ > > > > > > To know more about Apache Local Community, please refer [1], and if > > you are interested in
Re: old apachecon photos
Cheers Rich, Some are of you! D. On Tue, 3 Dec 2019, 6:31 pm Rich Bowen, wrote: > > > On 12/3/19 12:00 PM, Danny Angus wrote: > > Hi, > > I have a bunch of old apachecon photos, who owns photos.apachecon so > > that I can make them available? > > Me. > > You can register - https://photos.apachecon.com/register.php - and > upload your photos, and then I can accept them and add them to the > appropriate album. > > --Rich > > -- > Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com > http://rcbowen.com/ > @rbowen > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org > >
Re: [ALC] ALC Indore is set for the next event 'Open Source and ASF Awareness'
On 11/26/19 8:10 AM, Priya Sharma wrote: Hello All, ... Here are highlights from the event - -- 50+ Students participated in the event and attended the session. -- The duration of the session was 1 hour 30 minutes including the interaction with the audience. -- The response from students was overwhelming for us, they asked some surprisingly amazing questions to us, like # How can I earn money by making my code open source? # Who is the CEO of Apache? # If I take an open-source project, customize it, and sell it to my friend, can he also sell my customized project? # How can I contribute to Apache? # How much do you earn by taking these sessions? ;-) :D # If a big organization, takes my open source project and earn money from it, then will it be my loss? # any many more... I'm fascinated that such an overwhelming majority of the questions are about money, and I'd be curious to know what kind of answers were given to this. Looking at the list of members of this ALC - https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COMDEV/ALC+Indore - I am pretty confident that they got the right answers, since the list is heavy on people with experience at Apache. But looking out longer term, I'm concerned, as I mentioned in the other thread, that we are authorizing people to speak on our behalf, by virtue of nothing more than sending an email to this list with "request to setup ALC Foxtrot Arkansas". What vetting do we have in place before we delegate our name to people who are neither members nor committers? -- Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com http://rcbowen.com/ @rbowen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org
Re: Apache Local Community (ALC) as a ComDev Initiative
While I'm excited to see this kind of local ambassador program springing up, I want to be sure that we are not having people use the Apache name to promote messages that are not *our* message. Having local groups of enthusiasts having periodic meetings is great. What I'm asking is what assurances we want to have in place that the messaging at these events is accurate? In the past, when we have had an official (for whatever value of "official" we want to go with) Apache-sponsored thing, we require a member to be involved, so that we know that the message is from someone who actually knows what the message is. What I'm seeing here is a free-form "create a group by asking nicely" without any member, or even committer involved. And the events, and their messaging, are then being promoted on an .apache.org website, which means that they are an official statement of the Foundation. I'm feeling a little weird about that. I agree with Isaac, in that we don't want to set up a lengthy list of rules for who and how and what, I think that we need to be cautious about handing out our name, and our reputation, to just anybody that asks for it. Indeed, it's really kind of critical that we don't. Our name, and our reputation, are really the only things that we have, and we simply cannot have unaffiliated groups using our name to promote messages that are not Approved By Apache. Please note that I'm not saying that this has happened thus far. I don't know that, having not attended any of these events. But we have a long history of people using our name to promote their own agendas, and we *must* not allow that. On 11/19/19 1:24 PM, Sharan Foga wrote: Hi All Thanks Swapnil for the links about the ALC and I have re-read through the threads. I remembered sensing some push back on the proposed organisational hierarchy and see that has now been removed. Following on from that there was the comment of ALC being managed either within ComDev or VP Conferences. I dont think this fits with Conferences as it is more like a local meetup type event, which means outreach, which to me means ComDev. So now we need to look at how to manage the integration of the ALC initiative. Based on Sally's feedback that means announcing and promoting the initiative to a wider audience. I can see some key actions already - announce the ALC as an initiative (Swapnil we can probably create this from your emails about it. Can you draft something? ) - promote the next event (include it on the Events calendar, tweet via @ApacheCommunity and include a reminder on ComDev) -plan for future events (ALC Indore seems to be having events every 1 - 2 months, so let's put them on the calendar and prepare for it.) - funding (I am not sure if ALC is getting any funding as part of ASF small events, or it is being covered from a third party.? BTW ComDev also has a budget that could be used to help with stickers, swag etc) - grow the ALC community (several people said they were interested in setting up other ALCs but so far none have. This could be because of the lack of announcement of the initiative - so lets focus on that first) I'm happy to get feedback and comments on this so please feel free to respond if you have any ideas or suggestions. Thanks Sharan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org -- Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com http://rcbowen.com/ @rbowen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org
Re: old apachecon photos
On 12/3/19 12:00 PM, Danny Angus wrote: Hi, I have a bunch of old apachecon photos, who owns photos.apachecon so that I can make them available? Me. You can register - https://photos.apachecon.com/register.php - and upload your photos, and then I can accept them and add them to the appropriate album. --Rich -- Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com http://rcbowen.com/ @rbowen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org
old apachecon photos
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Re: Membership in Industry Organizations?
Hi Kevin, sure ... actually informing the Board was the first thing I did as I thought that's where it belonged and I was asked to bring it here. But happy to open legal tickets for each agreement. That was the information I was looking for ;-) Chris Am 03.12.19, 14:38 schrieb "Mark Thomas" : On 03/12/2019 13:25, Christofer Dutz wrote: > Ok ... > > So If I don't hear any objections in 72 hours, I'll treat that as consensus and I'll start creating these memberships for the PLC4X project but on behalf of the ASF. If the are agreements to agree to, I'd *strongly* recommend you get them reviewed by the legal committee before signing them. I'd give board@ a heads-up and time to comment first. Mark > > Chris > > > Am 02.12.19, 22:44 schrieb "Christofer Dutz" : > > Hi all, > > I think I brought this up before, but it’s getting more important now. > Till now it was just Apache PLC4X which would profit from this, but now that we also have Apache StreamPipes, there’s a second project that would benefit. > > In order to implement some industry protocols, you need to be member of the organization behind the protocol. > > The ones I am talking about are: > > * OPC Foundation (Logo-Membership to be allowed to use the OPC-UA logo and name as well as access the specs) … costs 0$/Year > * EtherCat organization (Logo-Membership to be allowed to use the EzherCAT Logo, access the specs and request a Vendor ID) … costs 0$/year > * ProfiNet organization (Free Membership to be allowed to use the ProfiNet Logo and request a vendor ID) … costs 0$/year > > The EtherCat and ProfiNet protocols would require a Vendor id, which would identify any driver implementations as Apache software. > The PLC4X Project requires these both in order to be able to implement active drivers. > The PLC4X and StreamPipes projects both require the 3 logo-memberships in order to be allowed to use the Logo and Names of the protocols. > > Are there any objection for me to go ahead and start the paperwork (or just filling out the online forms)? > Being the VP of PLC4X I should be able to do this (Being an officer of the Foundation) > > > Chris > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org
Re: Membership in Industry Organizations?
On 03/12/2019 13:25, Christofer Dutz wrote: > Ok ... > > So If I don't hear any objections in 72 hours, I'll treat that as consensus > and I'll start creating these memberships for the PLC4X project but on behalf > of the ASF. If the are agreements to agree to, I'd *strongly* recommend you get them reviewed by the legal committee before signing them. I'd give board@ a heads-up and time to comment first. Mark > > Chris > > > Am 02.12.19, 22:44 schrieb "Christofer Dutz" : > > Hi all, > > I think I brought this up before, but it’s getting more important now. > Till now it was just Apache PLC4X which would profit from this, but now > that we also have Apache StreamPipes, there’s a second project that would > benefit. > > In order to implement some industry protocols, you need to be member of > the organization behind the protocol. > > The ones I am talking about are: > > * OPC Foundation (Logo-Membership to be allowed to use the OPC-UA > logo and name as well as access the specs) … costs 0$/Year > * EtherCat organization (Logo-Membership to be allowed to use the > EzherCAT Logo, access the specs and request a Vendor ID) … costs 0$/year > * ProfiNet organization (Free Membership to be allowed to use the > ProfiNet Logo and request a vendor ID) … costs 0$/year > > The EtherCat and ProfiNet protocols would require a Vendor id, which > would identify any driver implementations as Apache software. > The PLC4X Project requires these both in order to be able to implement > active drivers. > The PLC4X and StreamPipes projects both require the 3 logo-memberships in > order to be allowed to use the Logo and Names of the protocols. > > Are there any objection for me to go ahead and start the paperwork (or > just filling out the online forms)? > Being the VP of PLC4X I should be able to do this (Being an officer of > the Foundation) > > > Chris > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org
Re: Membership in Industry Organizations?
Ok ... So If I don't hear any objections in 72 hours, I'll treat that as consensus and I'll start creating these memberships for the PLC4X project but on behalf of the ASF. Chris Am 02.12.19, 22:44 schrieb "Christofer Dutz" : Hi all, I think I brought this up before, but it’s getting more important now. Till now it was just Apache PLC4X which would profit from this, but now that we also have Apache StreamPipes, there’s a second project that would benefit. In order to implement some industry protocols, you need to be member of the organization behind the protocol. The ones I am talking about are: * OPC Foundation (Logo-Membership to be allowed to use the OPC-UA logo and name as well as access the specs) … costs 0$/Year * EtherCat organization (Logo-Membership to be allowed to use the EzherCAT Logo, access the specs and request a Vendor ID) … costs 0$/year * ProfiNet organization (Free Membership to be allowed to use the ProfiNet Logo and request a vendor ID) … costs 0$/year The EtherCat and ProfiNet protocols would require a Vendor id, which would identify any driver implementations as Apache software. The PLC4X Project requires these both in order to be able to implement active drivers. The PLC4X and StreamPipes projects both require the 3 logo-memberships in order to be allowed to use the Logo and Names of the protocols. Are there any objection for me to go ahead and start the paperwork (or just filling out the online forms)? Being the VP of PLC4X I should be able to do this (Being an officer of the Foundation) Chris - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org
Re: jbcnconf 2020
Morning All, I waited some extra days due to the US holiday last Thursday for discussion on this topic. To recap, Jean-frederic has offered to lead an Apache delegation for our booth. He will create a wiki like we did for fossdem2020. Ignasi Barrera has also offered to help with the stand & Jean-Baptiste has also said he will try and be there. So at this time I think we can say, Apache will be there. Any objections before I email a foundations list stating that and trying to get some other OSS organizations to take advantage of Jonathan's offer for a free table? Regards, KAM On 11/26/2019 8:52 PM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: > Planners & Comdev, > > Jonathan emailed me about jbcnconf 2020. They have just opened the call > for papers tomorrow, and this year they want to offer a free shared > stand to OSS foundations. > > The event is: 6-7-8 July 2020 > > Jean-Frederic, is willing to lead an Apache delegation and help man the > booth. He needs an ASF Roll-up and some stickers at a minimum. > > If we agree this is good, I'd like to post it on the foundations list as > well to see if other OSS places want to do it as well! > > Regards, > KAM > -- Kevin A. McGrail kmcgr...@apache.org Member, Apache Software Foundation Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org
Re: [ALC] Request to setup ALC in Beijing
Big +1, and would be nice to have ACL in Beijing :) Best, Jincheng zhangli...@apache.org 于2019年12月3日周二 下午4:53写道： > +1, hope to see you guys soon. > > -- > > Liang Zhang (John) > Apache ShardingSphere & Dubbo > > > Jeff Zhang 于2019年12月3日周二 上午11:02写道： > > > Definitely +1, it would be nice to have ACL in China. > > > > Xiangdong Huang 于2019年12月3日周二 上午10:54写道： > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > +1 for the proposal! > > > > > > I come from Apache IoTDB community and really like the idea, > > > which is much helpful to popularize ASF and Apache projects in Beijing > > even > > > China. > > > > > > Best, > > > --- > > > Xiangdong Huang > > > School of Software, Tsinghua University > > > > > > 黄向东 > > > 清华大学 软件学院 > > > > > > > > > Willem Jiang 于2019年12月3日周二 上午10:51写道： > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > I'm Apache member and there are bunch of Apache project developers in > > > > Beijing I know. ALC just give us a very good excuse to hand out and > > > > hold meetup together. > > > > > > > > Regards， > > > > > > > > Willem > > > > > > > > - > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Best Regards > > > > Jeff Zhang > > >
Re: [ALC] Request to setup ALC in Beijing
+1, hope to see you guys soon. -- Liang Zhang (John) Apache ShardingSphere & Dubbo Jeff Zhang 于2019年12月3日周二 上午11:02写道： > Definitely +1, it would be nice to have ACL in China. > > Xiangdong Huang 于2019年12月3日周二 上午10:54写道： > > > Hi, > > > > +1 for the proposal! > > > > I come from Apache IoTDB community and really like the idea, > > which is much helpful to popularize ASF and Apache projects in Beijing > even > > China. > > > > Best, > > --- > > Xiangdong Huang > > School of Software, Tsinghua University > > > > 黄向东 > > 清华大学 软件学院 > > > > > > Willem Jiang 于2019年12月3日周二 上午10:51写道： > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I'm Apache member and there are bunch of Apache project developers in > > > Beijing I know. ALC just give us a very good excuse to hand out and > > > hold meetup together. > > > > > > Regards， > > > > > > Willem > > > > > > - > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Best Regards > > Jeff Zhang >
